JR Sport Brief Hour 2

You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. And we are coming to you live from the Rocket Mortgage studios.

If you need cash out of your home and a simple way to get it, Rocket can. Happy Monday night to you. I'm going to be hanging out here with you for the next four hours. Or excuse me, not four hours. I'm here for four hours total. I got three more hours to go. I got one hour in the books.

Time just flies when you're having fun. I get started 10 p.m. Eastern Time, 7 p.m. Pacific. Got a lot of help today. Thank you to Alex, Shep, James Boccioni hanging out here with me and you. What do we do the first hour of the show? Well, we talked about the rookie quarterbacks and what they did in their first preseason games.

Kenny Pickett, Malik Willis, Desmond Ritter. Talked about Zach Wilson and his injury. Talked about Trevor Lawrence.

And as we continue on with the show, we got a lot to do. Kevin Durant is like, hey guys, don't believe everything that you see or read, but if the Nets don't trade me, I'm not retiring. Yeah, out of all the things to respond or answer to, that's what Durant wanted to answer. Antonio Brown is telling Jerry Jones to call him. I hope Jerry Jones doesn't have a phone to do so. Alex Rodriguez is telling all the young ballplayers out there, hey, learn from my mistakes.

Don't be me. In regards to Fernando Tatis Jr. And it's just a wild ass world that we live in. And oh yeah, we'll get into Giannis Atteracumpo as well. Giannis, he was honest. He was honest. Giannis Atteracumpo was asked by a reporter in Chicago about the Bulls and Giannis is just like, yeah, yeah, one day maybe at the end of my career I'll play in Chicago. And we'll talk about that.

Whether or not it's a big idea, no big problem at all, we'll get into it. But right before we went to break, we talked about all these young quarterbacks and what they can and can't do this season. Looking at someone like Desmond Ritter helped the Falcons win that preseason game over the weekend.

Same thing with Kenny Pickett, Malik Willis, he has a lot to improve on. And we talked about how they all are trying to get started. And then we mentioned Brett Favre.

This man, he didn't get started. He stuck around for 20 years. Brett Favre has the longest consecutive game streak by anyone who's ever played in the NFL, 297 games. Last week, Brett Favre, with all of that wear and tear and all of the games played, he was on Bubba the Love Sponge Show. And we just played this before the break. I want you to hear it again, especially for everybody who just joined us.

This is starting to gain steam. Brett Favre was asked about head injuries. Brett Favre was asked about his own injuries.

Head injuries. Brett Favre was asked about his own life. And I want you to hear what he said. Bubba the Love Sponge asked him, hey, man, how many concussions have you had in your career? Listen to what he thought he had and then listen to his actual realization.

Listen. If you'd asked me this 10 years ago, how many concussions I've had, I would have said three. The reason I would have said three, I thought concussions were when you get knocked out, where you black out for a period of time, you don't know where you are, memory loss, dizzy, you know, a boxer gets knocked out and tries to get up his legs, rubber. That's a concussion.

Right. What we now know is concussions happen all the time. So like you get tackled and your head hits the turf and you see, you know, flashes of light or ringing in your ears, but you're able to play.

Or you get that stinger, that little stinger for five or six seconds. So based on that, thousands had to be, because every time I hit the turf, there was ringing or stars going, flash bulbs, but I was still able to play. And that's what's kind of frightening about the concussion thing. More than a thousand?

More than a thousand? What the hell goes through your mind? Can you think about that? Here's a simple definition for a concussion. Okay. A bump, a blow, a jolt to the head or a hit to the body that causes the head and brain to move rapidly back and forth. Well, damn it.

If you watch Brett Favre play football and you've seen some of the hits that he took in that 297 games consecutive played streak or whatever the hell you want to call it, you would know that Brett Favre, man, that man's brain was doing a whole lot of rattling. I got the phone lines open for you right now. 855-212-4CVS.

That's 855-212-4CVS. And this makes me even go a step further. Brett Favre is talking about all of this right now, because he's an advocate that no child under the age of 14 plays tackle football. A matter of fact, let's hit the phone lines now. I'm going to take more of your calls and I want to share more information with you. Kyle is calling from New York. Kyle, you're on the JR sport re-show. He wants CBS sports radio. Hey, JR.

Thanks for taking my call. So with the Brett Favre thing, I'm sorry, but I got it called BS on the amount of concussions he's had. I've worked in the medical field for seven years now.

And I know that if you have more than about 20 or 30 concussions throughout your lifetime, you're going to be pretty much disabled. So there's no way he's had thousands. Well, let's short it just a little bit. He said and feels more than a thousand. That's what he says. And I'm saying that it's just not possible.

I mean, the man wouldn't be talking or walking or doing anything if he had more than a thousand concussions throughout his life, let alone through his playing career. Sure. Well, I'm not a doctor. So are you a doctor or you worked in the medical field?

Which one is it? I was a paramedic. You're a paramedic. Okay.

So help me out here. If he didn't have a concussion and every time his head hit the turf or someone like Ray Lewis knocked the living hell out of him, what would you call it? Just a traumatic brain instance or the other 999 times?

What would you call it? Well, it depends on what we're talking about here, because I mean, guys on the football field, they hit their head on the grass every single day and don't get concussions. No, that's not. Well, Kyle, I'm not trying to split hairs here. I'm not trying to be a jackass either.

I think you understand what I'm saying. What I'm saying, JR, what I'm saying is it's impossible that he... No, no, no. I'm not asking Kyle. Kyle, if you don't know the answer, that's fine.

I think we've gotten past you making that point. What I have asked you is for all the times that I've watched Brett Favre get the living hell knocked out of him. And this man goes down for the instances where Brett Favre says, I am dizzy. My head is ringing. I don't.

What is that? If it's not a concussion, what do you call it? Well, I mean, I'm not in his brain and I'm not that far. So, I mean, if he says that he went down and he was dizzy and he saw stars that many times, sure.

I mean, it's impossible to know if he actually had a concussion all those times. Okay. Well, no, Kyle, the answer is you don't know. And I'm not trying to fight with you.

The answer is you don't know. And I appreciate... I'm not trying to fight with you either, JR. I'm just saying that a thousand concussions is impossible. Okay. Well, yeah, you're repeating yourself now.

But thank you, Kyle, for calling from New York. I mean, well, damn. It's very simple.

If Brett Favre, if you say Brett Favre didn't have one of the thousand concussions and it's impossible, then okay, fine. I get that. Then what is it? Is it just having his bell rung?

Is it a traumatic event? What do you call it? I mean, you're not answering me by repeating the same thing over and over again. Come on, now. Damn it. Clifton is calling from Baltimore. You're on CBS Sports Radio. Yes.

Good evening, everyone. I would just like to say that if Brett Favre would have been playing in the 60s with Johnny Unicus, then I can understand him having over a thousand concussions because Deacon Jones and everyone back then used to slam the quarterbacks on their head. But they was more durable back then than they are today because there was a game when Johnny Unicus broke four fingers and came out after halftime and completed the game. Today's quarterbacks, if they have a hang mail, are they going to injury reserve?

But I would like to say that they are. Well, I wouldn't say that's fair, Clifton, because one thing that the NFL has tried to do, and it's not just out of the goodness of their heart. It's actually out of necessity. It's actually out of understanding that, oh, my God, we've had to pay out money because people have had to deal with injuries. It's the financial investment into players. So I don't think it's fair just to say, oh, my God, NFL players, if they have a hangnail, they're not playing. These are some of the toughest human beings that you will meet. Yes, you're absolutely right.

And to piggyback on your statement, President Roosevelt was going to cancel football because of the many deaths that had occurred back then when he was president. But nonetheless, Gerald, you're going to hit it first for me. If the Baltimore Orioles make the playoffs, they are going to the ALCS game. And have a wonderful evening, young man. Well, thank you, Clifton. I don't think anyone cares right now except for my friends in Baltimore. Chance is calling up from Portland. You're on CBS Sports Radio. JR, how you doing, sir? Good.

Go ahead. Yes. I think that, you know, Brett Favre, he was definitely a savage out there, and he had one style, and it was go right at the defenders. I think a lot of those hits were self-inflated as far as him going out the defender and not backing away, which is what, you know, it's a little different now. We still have a couple quarterbacks that do that, but not as much. Do you think in the future, JR, that they might wear those big padded, you know, balloon-looking things they're wearing in practice now? I know you've seen them this year. Do you think we'll go with something like that, possibly?

Well, I do know this, and thank you, Chance, for calling from Portland. The helmets will continue to evolve and change. There was actually a story that I read last week about the protection that the players wear. Even HBO, HBO Hard Knocks, in chronicling the Detroit Lions, talked about the headgear that the players were now wearing, especially the guys in the middle of the field who feel a lot of that impact. Your linemen, your fullbacks, your running backs, etc.

Linebackers, defensive linemen, tackles. They talked about it. Do I think these dudes are going to run around looking like the great gazoo from the Jetsons? No, probably not. But it wouldn't surprise me, and this is expected.

The helmets and the headgear, they're going to continue to change over the years. They already have. We can expect it to do so. Do you want it to be bigger and larger? To be, you know, just kind of taking over the game? Be a distraction?

No. But come on, every year the NFL is trying to think about how they can maintain the actual game and still be safe. But we don't see kickoffs anymore, really. Everything is a touchback into the end zone. Certain plays have been taken away. No wedges, etc.

They're trying to make the game safer. And you know, as much talking about with Brett Favre, self-inflicted? Yeah. Yeah, he played balls to the wall. There was no other way to say it. He was running around, wasn't afraid to stand in there and take that hit. He wasn't afraid to scramble outside of that pocket, make himself susceptible to every edgerusher in the world. Brett Favre played all the damn way. And so this is the point. Whether Brett Favre had three concussions, as he thought he did years ago, completely blackout, or whether out of his own mouth he had more than a thousand.

That's splitting hairs here. The man's brain, I don't care if it's three or a thousand, I don't care who's diagnosing him. I think we can all agree. The man knows that his brain has been rattled around in his skull.

And if you think about players who have had just evidence of brain injuries, just it's not good. God bless his family. God rest his soul. Junior Seau playing that linebacker, one of the best to ever do it.

Had to pay for it in the long run. Aaron Hernandez showed evidence of it. Dwight Clark, Vincent Jackson, Demarius Thomas who just passed away. These are all dudes who had issues. Memory loss, behavioral changes, difficulty thinking.

It's not fun. And so one of the reasons that Brett Favre talked about this with Bubba the Love Sponge last week, is because Brett Favre is actually an advocate right now. There's an organization, the Concussion Legacy Foundation.

It's an entire campaign. And Brett Favre, he did a PSA. And Brett Favre is trying to encourage everyone right now not to allow children or young men, young women, or whatever the case might be, not to play tackle football until they're 14 years old. If you're under 14, then go out there, play flag. I mean, damn it.

If you follow me on social media, if you're on Twitter, you can go at JR Sport Brief and you can see a video that I actually posted this morning. These are two kids. They cannot be older than I'd say, maybe even eight years old. They look younger than that. They're out there in helmets and there's like a tackling drill for a running back. And one of these kids blows the other kid the hell on up.

If you're on Instagram, you can see it in my story at JR Sport Brief. And I looked at it and I'm like, damn. And at the end of the video, one of the parents, I guess, is saying, oh, he's fine. He's fine. I'm like, that kid ain't fine.

His ass just got whooped. I want you to hear this PSA from Brett Favre. Now listen, the way this commercial runs, it starts off with a young kid and then it moves into like a teenager, a young man. And then at the end, you'll hear Brett Favre take a listen to this. Mom, dad, let's talk about tackle football. I just learned about CTE, the brain disease caused by repeated hits to the head. The more years I play, the more I'm at risk. If you put me in tackle today, by the time I'm a senior in high school, I'll have played 13 years of tackle football. I could already have CTE and it will continue to destroy my brain even after I stopped playing. So by the time I'm your age, I could be fighting depression, struggling to keep my thoughts straight.

I could become violent even towards my own children. When I'm your age, what will matter to me is not my youth football career, but that like you, I'm a great parent and I can provide for my family. So please, keep me out of tackle football until I'm 14.

And there you have it. That's Brett Favre, his PSA, trying to encourage every one of the 14. If you're going to play football, flag. Don't get involved in tackle football until you're 14 years old. Because even at a younger age, you can go out there and unless you're taught correctly, or even in cases where that's not, there's going to be accidental contact at times. And sure, it's a violent game.

We know that. If you're going to go play, you know that, you understand that, you understand the risks. But yeah, it can be vicious out here. It can be bad.

And the more that we learn about it, the more that we learn about brain injuries and brain health, et cetera. I think it has become tougher for people just to say, Hey, we're going to play football. Go out there and play without thinking about the long-term ramifications. Now, is everybody going to play professionally? The answer is no. Is everybody going to play in college? The answer is no. Is everybody going to play in high school?

The answer is no. But to what degree would you allow your child to play football? Is this a good idea or a bad idea? I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad.

14 years old? Yeah, sure. Let everybody play flag up until that point. When you turn 14, go ahead and learn how to play tackle. I also think it will diminish just, just typical wear and tear. I'm in favor of it.

I got no problem with it. I'm fine with what Brett Favre is saying. And in regards to his concussions, saying that, uh, you know, I used to think a concussion means that you just black the hell out. There are grades two concussions, a grade one concussion, mild, mild symptoms that last less than 15 minutes and involve no loss of consciousness. Grade two, moderate symptoms that last longer than 15 minutes. Grade three, severe.

This person has lost consciousness sometimes for a few seconds. You can even go further to four. I mean, yeah, there's levels to this.

The phone lines are open. That's eight five five two one two four CVS. That's eight five five two one two four CVS. Do you agree with Brett Favre? You know, should students and young people, should they only play flag football up until 14? Should 14 years old be the line where you move from flag to full on tackle? I'm cool with it. I don't see anything wrong with it.

Let the kids learn the fundamentals along the way. Eight five five two one two four CVS. I'm going to take more of your calls. We'll get into Giannis. We'll talk more football and Cowboys, et cetera. I'm going to get your thoughts on Brett Favre when we come back here on CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the J.R. Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio.

It's the J.R. Sport Brief Show here with you on CBS Sports Radio. Brett Favre says a few years ago he thought that he only had three concussions in his entire career. He says that he thought a concussion meant that you were knocked out cold. He says after learning more about concussions, he says he's had more than a thousand.

Seeing stars, being dizzy, just hearing things and ringing in your ears. He says all of those instances, if he has to add all of those up over the course of his 20 year career, he says he's had more than a thousand instances. He's now an advocate that children don't play tackle football until they are 14 years old. I'm not mad at them. I think there's a lot that you could learn between that point in time. It's an art. It's violent either way, but there are methods, there are ways to learn.

And I would not be mad if this happened to be the case. What are we losing here? What are we losing here?

I mean, really, what is anybody losing? Let them play flag. I got no problem with that. I agree with Favre. If they change the rule tomorrow, I wouldn't lose sleep. Not at all. What about you? Do you agree with Brett Favre?

Do you agree with this study and PSA that he's helping with? 14 being that line where you move from flag to tackle? I'm cool with it. 855-212-4CBS. That's 855-212-4CBS. ASF is calling from Phoenix. You're on CBS Sports Radio.

Hey, thanks for having me on. I wouldn't have historically agreed with it. As a young adult, I'm 30. I got five kids.

I've lived a high-speed life. And I'm paying the price for growing up with that macho mentality. I agree 100% with it. Is the line 14? I just like that somebody is advocating for protecting these kids.

And each parent...honestly, I don't know if I ever want to let my kids play tackle football. Now, reading what I'm reading and experiencing what I'm experiencing with my doctor. Okay. Well, thank you so much, ASF, for calling from Phoenix. And I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to share this video again one time so people don't necessarily have to just go searching and hunting for it. I just retweeted a video that I posted this morning.

And I said, I hope you have a better Monday than this kid. You can follow it and see it at JR Sport Brief. Follow it and see it at JR Sport Brief. It is one kid getting a handoff or he has the ball. It's a tackling drill. He blows this other kid the hell up.

They can't be more than, I don't even think, eight. This kid, he ran through this kid like he was Derrick Henry. 855-212-4CBS. John is calling from Arizona.

You're on the JR Sport Brief Show. Go ahead, John. Thanks, Jared. Good evening.

Practice 30 years. Neurology is my specialty and I agree 100 percent with FAR. And you kind of beat me to the punch.

They are rated. And it doesn't matter. You can have a mild concussion. I've seen it lots and lots of times. And initially not even know you had a concussion.

It can be a mild whiplash in a car or whatever. And so I agree 100 percent with him. And people do need to take this stuff serious and especially with our children. Well, let me ask you this, John. I just want just a verification here. You're referring to, we had a gentleman who was a paramedic who called. And he said that there was no way that Brett Favre could have had a thousand concussions, otherwise Brett Favre would just not exist. And so you are saying that is inaccurate?

Well, I'll address it directly. If Brett Favre said, I fell, saw stars momentarily, that is a concussion. Mild.

Maybe even a sub-mild. But it's there. And yes, you can have lots of those. Lots of them. Okay.

I'm looking at it right now. He has said, I've had more than a thousand. A dizzy memory loss. He's said more than a thousand. Okay, doctor. Appreciate you, Dr. John. You bet. So the public should take this serious and protect our young kids.

But also protect ourselves. If you do, just really quick, you can have a concussion and a car accident, mild-trended vendors, things of that nature. If you start to lose energy, the symptoms of a mild concussion are when the brain ruminates, it's not being present, it goes over and over and over things. Indecisiveness, you know, decisiveness becomes difficult. And if a person starts to find out they're getting more and more agitated and upset. An MRI is not necessarily, MRIs most of the time did not show swelling of the brain with these types of injuries.

An MMPI-2, a psychiatrist or a psychologist, take that test and it will indicate if you've had a concussion and it's affecting your mind. I'll be quiet. Well, thank you, John. I appreciate you for sharing that information, calling up from Arizona. I have unfortunately shared with you some of the instances that we've just seen from public figures in the NFL, superstars who've just had brain injuries and has just ended in just catastrophes.

Just Junior Seau to Hernandez, it goes on. Mike is calling from Houston, you're on CBS Sports Radio. Hey, how you doing? Very well. Good to let you take my call.

The reason I'm calling is I agree 1,000 percent with what Ben Paul has said. You know, and I'm just an old 65-year-old man that played football back in the good old days where the harder you can hit each other's helmet, the harder you can get a mark on your helmet, the better it was. And you know, you could be 13, 14, 15 years old and that's not good. You're making scrambled eggs up there.

And like I said, I'm 65 and I can't even hardly remember what I ate last night. So I just think that he's right. Let's learn the game the right way and to never hit helmet to helmet ever again. That's just my opinion. All right.

Well, thank you, Mike, for calling from Houston. And let's also be honest here. Brett Favre's brain, just because he's a football player, his brain ain't any stronger than yours. Or mine.

Or your next door neighbor's. A brain, I'm not a doctor. I'm not. But I'm going to say this. A brain is a brain is a brain. Okay.

It's up there. It's protected. But it can get rattled around. And so just because Brett Favre is on TV for 297 consecutive games, that don't mean that this guy's brain, he took one hit and now it's better or it got stronger. It's not me, you know, toughening up my muscles. It's not no pain, no gain. It's no, you, you hit that sucker.

It's going to make it worse. Mark is calling from Knoxville. You're on CBS Sports Radio. Oh, wow, JR. I'm doing my best to gather myself because you got me fired up. I literally just came home and I turned the car off and it moved to your radio station and your subject matter called me instantly. Yes, Brett Favre and every family, every person that has had this concern, it is real.

I just started a company. This is not an advertisement, I promise. But there's a gentleman in a family, Mark and Kim Holinski.

They're not hard to find. Holinski's Hope. They're, you know, they have an NCAA relationship. You have the Mental Health Awareness Week, that the Holinski's Hope, college football, Mental Health Awareness Week. Sadly, my friend and business partner, Mark Holinski's son, Tyler, is the young man that took his life. He was the quarterback at Washington State. In his post-mortem at Mayo, they found out he had CTE. I met him at a brain summit meeting virtually with a neurosurgeon at a brain summit meeting in 2019. He wasn't able to be there because his youngest son, Ryan, was a freshman starting quarterback at South Carolina and they were playing the Florida Gators in a few hours. So during that virtual meeting he was in, they showed the ESPN documentaries, they won an SD Award for Humanitarian Award for the work they're doing in mental health and concussion.

All I can say is it is real. And the other thing I can say is, and I'm a high school college football player, somehow or another, and I work in medical, I work in spine and neuro now, somehow or another a brain injury, a concussion is a brain injury that is the only injury that I'm aware of, or that we know of, a disease or injury that's not actually treated in most parts by a specialist in that subject of anatomy. Most team doctors are orthopedists, they're pediatricians. You put your ACL in, how's your brain feeling?

And we're not calling their baby ugly, I promise we're not. But the reality is that technology has brought us a point that we can land rockets on the ground when we shoot off, that we can do things that were never done before, and that we can bring technology and objective measurement tools and neuro-specialists to the episode of care of an injury that's never been able before. Well, I'm trying to gather myself because you got me fired up.

It's okay and I appreciate you for sharing that information and thank you Mark for calling from Knoxville, that's a very good point. One thing that we have not advanced to, I'm going to repeat this again, it wasn't until 2016, 2016, that the NFL decided to implement concussion protocols. How the hell do you think that has trickled down to college, and I'm going to say all levels of college football, how do you think that's trickled down into high school football, how do you think how do you think that has trickled down into youth football? If the NFL just did it six years ago, what do you think every other level of football in the United States of America is on par?

The answer is hell no. I'm going to take more of your calls. Brett Favre says that children should not participate in tackle football until they are 14. We've heard from doctors, we've heard from football players, I'm going to continue to hear from you. It's the JR Sport Reshow on CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio.

Hey JR, how are you buddy? I really appreciate your show, you know, night in and night out. I agree with the last caller once again from Seattle, you do a, you know, a good common sense approach to the show. Thank you for having me on. Call in now at 855-212-4CBS.

It's the JR Sport Reshow here with you on CBS Sports Radio. We've talked about the Kenny Picketts, the Malik Willises, and the Desmond Ridders of the world, and we talked about Brett Favre, who says after a lot of evaluation and learning more about head injuries that originally, you know, at the end of his career, he thought he only had three concussions. Just completely blacked out, knocked out cold. After further evaluation, he says he has had more than 1,000. You don't have to be all knocked out cold, ringing in your ears, seeing stars, just blurred vision.

He said he's experienced it all. And so now he's an advocate that young people do not play tackle football until they're 14. Prior to turning 14, go out there and play flag. I think it's a good idea.

I wouldn't be mad. Like what are we losing if an 11-year-old isn't out there just knocking the living hell out of somebody? And sure, there's a lot to learn in the process, but is it worth the risk or the reward? What about people who will actually continue on to play the game, not just at the age of 14? What about the people who will play professionally?

I don't think there's anything lost if you just play flag until 14. I'm going to take more of your calls. It's 855-212-4CBS. We got a lot of people on the line, as you can imagine. I'm going to try to get on as many people as possible. And then when we get to the top of the hour, you know, we'll continue to talk some football, but I do want to update you on some comments made by Giannis Attaracumpo and also Kevin Durant, who decided to speak.

And by speak, I mean go on Twitter. 855-212-4CBS. Daniel's calling from San Diego. Go ahead, Daniel. Thank you, JR. Thank you for taking my call.

Hey man, I just wanted to, I'll keep it short. I disagree and agree with Brett Favre. First of all, he's right. If anything, he asked me, I think he has more than 2,000. He has double of concussions. And that guy played 250 games consecutively. To reach 1,000, he's had to get hit four times a game.

And that's, you know, that's minimal. He's been hit way beyond more times than that. Well, I mean, whether it's 1,000 or 2,000, yes, we know he's gotten his ass whooped. You said you were going to be quick, Daniel. Go ahead.

I've seen him play the game. But at 14 years old, I have to admit, I have to disagree. I think 18 is the proper age. They're the ones, they have to make the decision to get hit like that because nobody can, we can't take responsibility of concussions when they're at minor age. I just, I have to disagree with that.

Well, like everything else, and thank you, Daniel, for calling from San Diego. Man, if you're a minor, that's, oh, that's a parent's choice decision. So you're going to move it to 18? Tackle football in high school? Or flag football in high school? I think that's, that's a little much. You know, I know there's a big old business, but I don't know if I'd go that far. I think a freshman in high school can really start to learn and understand, you know, what they're doing with their bodies, how to control their bodies, the risks.

I think a 14 year old can decide that. Clayton is calling from San Diego. You're on CBS Sports Radio. Hey, Clayton, you're live. Hey, you there? I'm here. You're here too.

Go ahead. Hey, I, I just want to kind of weigh in because you mentioned Junior Seau. And I went to high school and college with Sydney Seau. She's in my grade. Incredible human.

Same thing with her brother who's younger. And unfortunately I was able to be a part of her whole experience and kind of the downfall of the degradation of, you know, Junior Seau and attempting a few times to kind of off himself. And it just made a huge impact on my life because I was such good friends with their family. And I just think it's really important that people take that into consideration and just take as much precaution as possible.

So I fully support, you know, Brett Favre and his initiative to keep that, I mean, development in your brain and trying to protect yourself as much as possible. Well, thank you, Clayton, for calling from San Diego. I'm sorry to hear that you were closer to that situation. That's unfortunate. And when you hear about someone taking their life and just, and then we learned after the fact, the injuries and trauma he had to his brain, oh, it's just, it's terrible.

Brad is here from Colorado Springs. You're on CBS Sports Radio. Hey, JR. You know, this is a really important conversation you're having, you know, and it's kind of like make it simple for people to understand how a concussion happens. It's simply when the skull either bounces into the brain or it stops so fast that the brain bounces into the skull.

And it doesn't take a lot for that to happen. So that can be a minor and the severity. So every time you step out onto a football field, you hit your head on the ground, that brain is going to bounce into the skull every single time. And that's going to be a minor concussion every time. Boxers, you bump your head on a cabinet at home, you know, you don't have to be a professional to get a minor concussion. And, you know, it's just something people don't understand unless it's happened, unless they really stop and just look at it like that. Me, I've had severe concussions and severe, you know, as bad a head injury as you can have. And I'm still being, I've been in treatment for 50 years. And I'm seeing doctors this week for concussion therapy. And it's, you know, it's just, people just don't realize, you know, how easy it is to hurt your brain. So let me ask you this, Brad.

Bang your head, and that brain is going to bounce off of it. I assume you're in favor of, you know, Fav's 14-year-old limit? Well, you know, I'm kind of, I'm kind of confused about that issue, because, you know, in a way I'd like to say, hey, you know, a little bit older, but really, if you wait till a little bit older, you're kind of taking the game out. And I think, I think kids, they want to play, they want to play hard. I did, I played football before 14. And, you know, I remember, I remember when I was 12, another player and I, we hit helmets so hard that they cracked and our helmets got stuck together and they couldn't pull us apart. And they were stuck on our heads. Those, those days are, those days are, well, they trying to move those days about to be done.

I don't think anybody wants to see that. No, it's a, it's a difficult thing. If you think about what we're all used to, one thing that no one is ever really used to until it happens, is change. Sometimes things change for the better.

Sometimes they change for the worst, but man, we try to make decisions that make us better in the long run. It's the JR Sport Reef Show here with you on CBS Sports Radio. I'll leave the phone lines open. We're going to talk Giannis. We'll talk Durant on the other side here on CBS Sports Radio.