JR SportBrief Hour 2

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And of course to you. We opened up the show by talking about Tiger Woods. He's a modern day superhero. Getting in the private jet, leaving Florida, going up to Wilmington, Delaware, just to sit in front of other golfers and tell them, Hey, live golf is a bad idea. And I mean, that's, that's a, that's a hell of a lot coming from Tiger Woods, who's made his share of mistakes and good for him. As long as he's not doing it for his own personal benefit or trying to strong arm anybody.

I got no issue with Tiger Woods. Just kind of trying to drop knowledge. If that's his true intent, I'm not going to speculate if it's otherwise, as we continue on with the show, we're going to talk about some quarterbacks in the NFL. Everybody, especially at the top of every season, everyone has something to prove.

Some more than others, and some for differing reasons. Next hour, this should be fun. It's not necessarily a conversation about LeBron James, but about LeBron James, his kids, his oldest son, 17 years old, obviously grew up in a public eye. Same time, is he kind of game for criticism? Is, is he up for criticism? Is he up to be criticized on the same level of LeBron James?

It seems that someone thinks so, and has already started to do so. We'll get into it. We'll talk about the preseason college football rankings. And then of course, you can't talk about college football without Nick Saban popping up and Najee Harris running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He didn't have the most glowing words for Nick Saban. We'll share that with you later on in the show as well.

855-212-4CBS, that's 855-212-4CBS. Before I talk about these NFL quarterbacks, we do have an individual who has been waiting throughout the break to share some words with us. And so I'm going to allow him to have the last word on Tiger Woods and Liv and the PGA.

And then we're going to talk about these quarterbacks, because these guys are getting paid and they don't got to take money from another government. Brother Hermine, he's calling from New Orleans. You're on CBS Sports Radio.

Hey, my brother, first of all, I hope God allow you to live life. Have you ever played sports before in your life? Uh, yeah, sure. Okay, well, this is the big picture. You talked about the guy who called about our New Orleans, the Houdet Nation. Look at our roster. Look at all the people that's playing with our team, not just Damon Winston. We have Andy Doughty. We have a team. I don't care if you don't, you know, if you're not a Saints fan or you're an advocate, but if there isn't any way, we've been through the Nolan O'Call to mitigate all the other stuff we could have went to the federal, uh, uh, went to incarcerated with, but God is no respect a person, man. I, uh, Bobby, a bear and Mike to kill you.

Those are my friends. And in a good way, we talk when you come down to the Superbowl, I want to meet you, my brother, because none come to a sleeper, but a dream that he or she sleeps too hard to become a nightmare. Ain't no way in the world. You're going to tell me that we don't stomp on Brady. Brady don't like to play us.

Brady gets sacked by us more than anybody in the league. Think about it. And you have a blast night and who that baby go that who that we're going to championship. Thank you. Good. Let me know when Jamis Winston takes you to that championship.

It's the JR sport reshow here with you on CBS sports radio. Speaking of, of quarterbacks and yeah, Jamis Winston might be someone who has to go out and improve something. No, he had that little foot foot injury to start the training camp process off. It looks like Alvin Kamara is going to be able to make it through this season, uh, without being suspended. That's more so to do with the, uh, the justice system, as opposed to the NFL suspending him. But, uh, anyway, the saints got their own issues.

They have things to prove. Michael Thomas has to prove that he'll be healthy, et cetera, et cetera. But let's talk specifically about the quarterbacks, not Jamis Winston. Let's talk about some other quarterbacks. And we have also many in the NFL who have to get up and, and earn their keep.

You got to earn your cash. You got guys like Tua Tongaveloa. What's his excuse this year? You can dump the ball off the Tyreek Hill.

You can just dump it off or flip it over the waddle and, and expect the flip to go for, I don't know, 15, 20 yards. Tua Tongaveloa was the same man last week. Just, just telling the media, the hell y'all asking me about Tom Brady for? That was before I got here.

Leave me alone. You have quarterbacks who are battling it out for a job. Sam Darnold looking at Baker Mayfield going, how the hell did we end up in the same locker room? And then you got Baker Mayfield trying to understand what am I doing here in Carolina? Oh, that's because my other team wanted to bring in some quarterback with problems and pay him $230 million. Speaking of problems, you got a guy like Carson Wentz. I need to find, I need to identify, I need that one commander's fan. One. I need that one commander's fan to stand up and tell me stand up and tell me how excited you are for Carson Wentz.

I need you to stand up and shout so I can look at you and say, Hey, you lying. You got Matt Ryan with the Colts? That's going to look weird. Can I even call it a quarterback battle here in Atlanta? Mariota and Ritter?

It's not exciting at all. You have other QBs with plenty to prove. Tom Brady, well, Tom Brady don't have a damn thing to prove. He has to prove that he still wants to play football. The man just went away for personal reasons.

I hope everything is okay. People are starting to just speculate the real reasons as to why he left. Oh, he didn't look happy before he left.

Come on, man. I'm not going to get involved with this man's personal life. I don't care. I'm not going to speculate.

You don't have a damn thing to prove. He should just go stay home. Oh, he won't stay home. When he retires, he has $350 million waiting for him just to talk about football on TV. Not so bad to be Tom Brady. You got Derek Carr. People are going to have some big expectations for him.

He got all the weapons in the world to work with. Can Derek Carr end up in the MVP conversation? Wow. Maybe. Throw in to his old college buddy in Devontae.

Maybe. How about we stay in that division? How about this guy? It sounds difficult to say that he has a lot to prove because he's already won an MVP. Because he's already won a Super Bowl. And he got his ass handed to him last season to start things off.

In the court of public opinion, people were lighting him up saying, yo, he's regressing. That's Patrick Mahomes. Kansas City Chiefs started off last season like hot garbage. They started off the year three and four. They ended up winning nine out of their last ten games. They had one of the best games that you will ever see in your life against the Buffalo Bills. And then they took on the Cincinnati Bengals and they just flipped the script, the tale of two halves. Chiefs led the Bengals 21 to 3.

They took their foot off the gas and they lost, as we know, 27 to 24. What a way to bookend a season if you're the Kansas City Chiefs. If you're Patrick Mahomes. You start off like crap.

You win nine out of ten. You and the Buffalo Bills are just going punch for punch. And then you just hand over a game to the Bengals and the Bengals took it.

Credit to them. And now you've lost Tyreke Hill. You got Juju Smith-Schuster in.

Valdes Scantling. And then, of course, you still have Travis Kelce, who's made himself into one of the best tight ends of all time. And so Patrick Mahomes, the man who regressed last season, the one who started off slow and tried to do too much. Now he has to be able to do it without one of the most dynamic players in the NFL because Tyreke Hill went to Miami. And all he's doing is talking about how accurate Tua Tonkaveloa is.

Let's see how long that lasts. So Patrick Mahomes is still one of the best. Patrick Mahomes is still making $450 million. And Patrick Mahomes, as long as he can run around and play football as a healthy individual, I wouldn't be concerned about his performance. And even Travis Kelce has talked about him and he's just like, yeah, this dude is just doing the work and continues to grow and get better.

Listen. What Pat's able to do is just, you know, keep developing. He just keeps finding ways to get better as a quarterback. And yeah, that by far is what's made this offense take off and go into more of a passing offense than what we had in the past, for sure. That's hard to say, man. I've always thought he's been one of the smartest guys I've ever been around on the football field, whether it's just playing off of natural instincts or actually knowing what the defense is doing.

I'll leave that up to him to tell you. But I think that he's had a lot to do with, or his development over the off seasons has a lot, has got a lot to do with just, you know, taking it to that next step, you know, whether it's the next read or understanding what the defense is doing. So, you know where to go even more precise with the ball instead of just feeling out the defense.

I really see that out of him this game more than any. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, Patrick Mahomes, he's going to turn 27. Isn't there still more to learn? Is he, has he reached his peak yet? Probably not. So I can't discount what Kelcey says.

And yeah, sure. Patrick Mahomes is going to have to pick up the slack all the way around. There's no bailout options here. And I think Patrick Mahomes is going to have another amazing season. Someone else. He's really trying to bounce back because he didn't even play at the end of last season. It's Lamar Jackson. This man had a bone bruise in his ankle, and he was done after 12 games. And then he was done. The Ravens were done. They were cooked. There was nothing else. And now here they are. They're back. And one of his favorite weapons in Marquise Brown is gone.

Even though I don't think he was the best of weapons. You're expecting a healthy season, not just from Lamar, but the rest of his offense and the line. And oh yeah, by the way, you expect some big money for Lamar Jackson.

Even for today, you're expecting a healthy season. Big money for Lamar Jackson. Even for today, it was reported that Ian Rappaport, he said that the Ravens are getting ready to pay this man big money. Is he going to get the 50 million that Rogers is getting? Probably not. Is he going to get more than a 46 afforded to Kyler Murray? Probably. Is he going to get 230 guaranteed like Deshaun? Maybe not. Will he get more than a 160 guaranteed to Kyler?

Probably so. And so Lamar Jackson, I would say, is probably the most criticized player in the NFL right now. People either love him or people hate him. And when I say him, I'm referring to his game. I don't think the guy has done a damn thing worthy to be hated. But there'll be people who will say he can't throw.

There'll be folks to say, hey, here are the numbers that indicate that he can't. And so what has he done? He seemingly has improved some more.

He's 25 years old. His game is built off of athleticism. And oh yeah, I guess he sucks when he can throw 36 touchdowns in a regular season and win an MVP. I guess he sucks right when he can, he's a dual threat and you got to watch him on the ground as well as in the air. Oh, I guess at 25 years old, Lamar Jackson can't get better.

That's sarcasm for the people who don't understand it. He's even gotten bigger physically. The man has been in the gym. He's been jacking up the weights.

Lamar Jackson, he was on Sirius XM, NFL radio, talking about his added muscle. You looked thicker to me. Yeah. Put some weight on. I've been lifting a lot. Yeah. I'll be lying to me.

I can tell. I can't tell you were thickened up. I'm going to guess about 12 pounds. Uh, what, what was that? Two 28 today, 28. And what I was last year, like two tips 18 pounds. There you go. I'm off by six, but you know, I saw you out there and I go, his legs are thicker.

His arms look different. And then when you got here, yeah, you can't, you know what you did? You got yourself bigger. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Watch out world.

He's going to drop the shoulder. Ask him out on a date next time. Why don't you, I mean, sheesh, look, it's all good. It's all well. Just, you don't want them to have the weight on and look for punishment.

You don't want them to dole any out. You want Lamar Jackson to get the hell up on out the way. And I think he does a great job of that. I mean, I think he's done a great job of that. I think he's done a great job of that. You want Lamar Jackson to get the hell up on out the way.

And I think he does a great job of that more than people give him credit for. Lamar Jackson, definitely something to prove, you know, one day, despite the thoughts of many, someone who quote unquote is a dual threat quarterback of which the league is evolving into is going to win a championship. And what are people going to say then? You can't win a championship if you got a guy out there who rushes 4,000 yards.

What are they going to say then? I'd love to see him continue to evolve, become better. He's one of the most exciting football players to watch. When Lamar Jackson is playing, that's called appointment viewing. Good luck to the New York Jets trying to stop him in game one.

Good luck. He definitely, he always has something to prove, even if he wins a championship and people will call it an anomaly. Not fair. And speaking of a championship, this guy's trying to win another one. It's been a long time.

It's been since 2011. It's Aaron Rodgers. What the hell is he going to do without Devontae Adams? He's going to make some other no-name wide receiver, the best ever?

What is he going to do this time? He just won another MVP. He got three of these suckers. He got a Super Bowl MVP.

It just so happened to be a long time ago. And in more recent years, he can't beat the 49ers. I mean, even this year, he basically was doing a whole lot of nothing. He became super conservative and the Niners beat the Packers 13 to 10. And so with Devontae Adams gone and Aaron Rodgers adding another year to his life, is he going to add another MVP or is he going to turn another no-name wide receiver into some type of receiving God in Green Bay? And it doesn't sound like it's going so far or so good so far up in Green Bay because Aaron Rodgers, after their joint practice with the Saints, he called out some members of his offense.

Take a listen. I mean, it's good. It's good we do it in practice. So it's unfortunately some of the same guys. That's, you know, repeat mistakes are a problem. So we just got to clean those things up a little bit. The young guys, you know, they got to, especially young receivers, we got to be way more consistent. You know, a lot of, a lot of drops, a lot of, you know, bad route decisions, run the wrong route. So we got to, we got to get better in that area. Oh, why doesn't he just go out there and do what Tom Brady's wife say Tom Brady can't do? Why doesn't Aaron Rodgers go out there and throw and catch the ball at the same time? I thought you were going to say win when it matters most. Ouch. All right.

Ouch. Aaron Rodgers, I forgot his MVP from this season. That is, that's four MVPs and one Super Bowl MVP from 2011. Hey, he's going to make Alan Lazar look amazing. And Sammy Watkins is going to play all season long. And Randall Cobb is going to be healthy. He's not going to be old. And Tanyan is going to be great coming off of his blown knee. It's all going to be fine.

That's not sarcasm. Despite the potential pitfalls and issues with the Packers, I think that they'll be fine. And when I say fine, I mean, go to the playoffs and I don't know.

I'm not going to peg them in a Super Bowl, but let's see. It's Aaron Rodgers here. And we have a lot of quarterbacks with a lot to prove. Russell Wilson trying to air it out without Pete Carroll. What can he do without that man? Tua Tonga Veloa trying to further submit and establish himself as a starting caliber quarterback.

You got Trevor Lawrence. We don't talk about him. What is he going to look like under a competent head coach? We got a lot of QBs with a lot to prove.

If I have to think about who has the most, it's Lamar Jackson. Still doesn't have a contract yet. Is beat up in every decision that he makes. He's either not good enough or doesn't get the respect. He's an MVP. He's like Rodney Dangerfield here, people.

There's, there's no respect. 855-212-4CBS. That's 855-212-4CBS.

If you think about the QBs in the NFL right now, who has the most to prove? I'm going to take your calls on the other side. It's the Gerald Sportbrief Show.

Well, that's the story of my life. No respect. You're listening to the J.R. Sportbrief on CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the J.R. Sportbrief on CBS Sports Radio. I love you, brother. Happy birthday. God bless you, man. I love you. I love you, too. Hey, man, you make my night, J.R. You make my freaking night, dude.

You don't even know. Thank you, Kevin. I love you, bro. Call in now at 855-212-4CBS. Oh, today's not my birthday, to clarify. I'll say it again.

Today is not my birthday. It's the J.R. Sportbrief Show here with you on CBS Sports Radio. Right before we went to break, we talked about NFL quarterbacks. It's 32 of these guys. I mean, you could probably split the league in half and go, man, they're good.

And then the other half are just waiting to be replaced. Man, we even have a former MVP. Doesn't even get the respect that he deserves. That's Lamar Jackson. You have other quarterbacks running around trying to make their initial mark. You got guys whose contracts are expiring.

Man, you even got Jimmy Garoppolo. This man don't even have a team right now. What's he doing? Waiting to be released so he could sign with, I don't know, the Browns? Deshaun Watson, does he have something to prove? Does he?

I'd say it's Lamar Jackson. Coming off of injury, always criticized. Say he got bigger and stronger. I'm sure he hasn't lost any speed. Let's see what he can do on a return.

Coming off of that ankle injury. 855-212-4CBS. That's 855-212-4CBS. Andrew's here from Michigan. You're on CBS Sports Radio. What's up, Andrew? Andrew? Okay, I got, Andrew got abducted by the space aliens.

That's fine. Paul is calling from Oregon. You're on CBS Sports Radio.

What's up, Paul? Hey, I think there's a few quarterbacks that definitely need to prove something, but I think Kirk Cousins is definitely at the top of that list. He has definitely all the pieces around him to succeed, but for whatever reason, even in Washington, he just can't win the big games or teams that are over that 500 mark. I know he has the stats there to prove that he can.

I think he's going to be a great player. I know he has the stats there to prove that he can do it, but he needs to show up because, I mean, all that money he was paid, everything was guaranteed. That offense that he does have, the weapons that he has, I think it's time for him to prove himself and get over that hump of losing those Monday night games or when those games really count because it's really ticking me off. Well, Paul, do you cook? Well, Paul is gone. I wanted to ask Paul if he cooked because Kirk Cousins is as bland as it gets. Kirk Cousins just exists.

He shows up, he comes to work, he does his job, but he doesn't do enough to move you anywhere. Coach Zimmer, who's no longer with the team, obviously. You got Kevin O'Connell who's coming over. By the way, I met Kevin O'Connell at the Vikings training facility a couple of months ago. Great guy, nice guy. We had a group hug. Yeah, I know I did.

I hugged Coach O'Connell. We're talking about the importance of teamwork. I'm not joking. But the fact is, what has Kirk Cousins done but take money? He's like the guy who just, he's just there.

He's averaged to slightly above average but never in a big moment. And God bless him, he's been able to cake off of that for years, dating back to his time in Washington. Kirk Cousins is that guy who just shows up and you go, whoa, he's still here. Oh, yeah, he is. Still coming to work. Jeff is calling from Pittsburgh. You're on CBS Sports Radio.

Hey, JR, I appreciate the call. Hey, what do you think about the long-term situation in the Pittsburgh quarterback? The long term? I think we know the long term is for hopefully Kenny Pickett to take the job. They didn't select him at what, number 20, just for him to take up space. You know, Trubisky, if he's going to have any value, maybe they can flip him off to somewhere, but they want Kenny Pickett to take the job, man.

We know that. Do you think Pickett will play at all this season? Well, we've seen Trubisky.

And so the answer is there is a possibility. It might come down to injury, but I do not believe, under any circumstances, that Kenny Pickett is going to be a stealer. But I do not believe, under any circumstance, that the Steelers are going to rush Kenny Pickett. None.

I don't think they're going to rush him, but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw him out there. Yeah, I agree. I appreciate your time. No problem, Jeff.

Thank you for calling. Unfortunately for Steeler fans, welcome to the great unknown. I mean, you've been looking at Ben for the past, I don't know, almost two decades, almost, and then you're looking around going, whoa, what do we do next? Welcome to what the rest of the league looks like. Let's think about some teams with quarterbacks, and you have no idea what you're going to get. You think Seattle has its answer on the team right now?

No, they don't. The Seahawks are going to stink this year. You got to choose between Drew Locke. Unfortunately, he just tested positive for COVID, and then you got Geno Smith.

Man, you really got to be a Seahawk fan to pay some money to go see that. You got Zach Wilson. The man just ripped, well, he didn't rip up his knee. Thank God it's not a torn ACL. He has a bone bruise.

He had an injured meniscus, but he's supposed to be fine in about a month's time. You think the Texans are just all happy and comfortable with Mills? They want to see what he can do. The Lions with Goff? Come on.

I think this guy's a savior. There are a lot of NFL teams that are looking forward to this upcoming draft. You got a lot of teams who are looking forward to the upcoming draft because they can go ahead and get a quarterback. Stop it.

You think teams are salivating to snatch up CJ Stroud? And I got to tell you this, if there's one quarterback I just feel terrible for, you know what? You know what? I'm going to tell you who it is on the other side because this poor young man, I think is just being set up to fail. It's the JR Sport Brief Show here on CBS Sports Radio. I'll leave the phone lines open and I'm going to tell you who this quarterback is on the other side. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. I even got my wife into listening to you, man. When I come home at night, she already have you on like walking the house. I'm getting out the car and then I'm walking in the house and I'm still hearing you, man.

Call in now at 855-212-4CBS. It's the JR Sport Brief Show here with you on CBS Sports Radio. We've talked about quarterbacks who have a lot to prove.

And right before we went to break, I told you that I would reveal the name of someone who I just, I feel like he's getting shortchanged. I feel like he's going to get walked out of the door as, I don't know, maybe as soon as next year, whenever the hell they can. It's Justin Fields. This man is getting a raw deal and he's been getting a raw deal. I want to say for years, he's still a young man and this predates, this predates the NFL.

If I got to think about Justin Fields, yeah, congratulations. Last year, 2021 draft, a little flip around with the New York Giants. Bears select him 11th overall, but here's the problem and here's the issue. The Bears have a new general manager. Ryan Pace is gone.

Ryan Polls is in. Matt Nagy is gone and he didn't know what the hell he even do with Justin Fields. It's like having a Lamborghini and then, you know, Matt Nagy wanted to put Justin Fields out there like he was a monster truck.

Like, what are we doing here? And so typically when you have a new general manager come in, you're on borrowed time. I'm not saying that the Chicago Bears are, are just willingly throwing Justin Fields out there to the wolves, but I mean, damn, where's his help?

Nikhil Harry was supposed to be his help? Alan Robinson is gone. He's going to be catching passes from Matthew Stafford and his bum elbow. Valis Jones, rookie Byron Pringle. This is offensive because Justin Fields is going to be running for his life. When he got to the Bulldogs, they just said, hey, here, run the ball. And he left and he did a damn good job at Ohio State. And then he gets into the NFL and then the guys who drafted him and brought him in, they bumping them out.

No, they got fired. And so I have zero expectations for Justin Fields this upcoming year. Anything that happens with Justin Fields is basically a plus.

It's a benefit because he might as well be playing with me at wide receiver. Where can I sign up for the Bears? Hey, Shep, is it too late for me to, to go out to Chicago and try to make the team?

Is it too late? I mean, didn't Rudy make Notre Dame? Well, he did.

Then JR can make the Chicago Bears. And that still ain't helping Justin Fields, man. And that's sad. I don't, he's, he's just getting a raw deal. It's unfortunate.

You're not just going to dump the guy. He's a first round pick, but he's, he's going to have value. I'm sorry, JR, I'm sorry, but isn't it amazing that like you have a situation like Green Bay where you have like Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, two top 10 all-time quarterbacks, and then one of the major markets we have in this country cannot find itself a decent quarterback in 35 years.

Um, do I gotta, how about Kate McNown? He sucked too, right? Yeah, but that's, I mean, you get my point. Like, it's just amazing that like certain franchises, like everyone is, I'm sorry to go here. Everybody is knocking the Cleveland Browns for doing what they're doing. But I mean, Bernie Kosar is like the last franchise quarterback to actually have, so like they are such a dime a dozen.

I don't know if we appreciate it to what it really is, you know? We could thank, we could thank Belichick for giving him the boot. Yeah, you got that right. We can thank Belichick for a lot of things, including losing the last three seasons.

Yeah, there's a connection. Whoa, whoa, Belichick for doing what with the Patriots? I said we can thank Belichick for a lot of things, including revealing what kind of coach he actually is. I know you don't believe that, but, uh, you know.

Oh, come on. What is he supposed to do? Tom Brady left? You know what, middle last season?

The man played in a pandemic with a team that, oh boy, they go seven and nine? Anybody else out there, they would have been ass and ass, and they had Cam Newton and nothing. Well, it's a little troubling and enigmatic to me that they have a second-year quarterback that was by far the best rookie quarterback, and now there's doubt because people don't know if he's going to develop properly under Bill Belichick. So that's, that's, that's reasonable, but I'm thinking Bill Belichick has a track record that, that predates even, uh, the, the Browns that shows that, oh, let's see what he does, man. He had, he's been around 30 plus, 30 plus years for a reason, and it's not because he's great with a video camera. No, Don Jarrett, I'm not, I'm not down playing, uh, that Bill Belichick isn't a great football mind, but what I'm, what I'm saying is, um, it helps when you have the greatest player in the history of team sport, or at the very least, the most accomplished player in the history of team sports.

That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I could say the same thing of, well, if Phil Jackson stuck around with the Bulls, right, and Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen left and just said, hey, Rodman, you're the guy, what are we looking for? Well, the thing about, the thing about Phil Jackson is you, whatever people want to say about him is Doug Collins did have Michael and Scottie there for a good amount of time. Couldn't, couldn't even get to the finals with them. And the Lakers, the Lakers and the great Dale Harris had Kobe and Shaq and couldn't get to the finals with them. So Phil Jackson, yep. They grew. Teams get better over time.

Yes. I can look at what happened with the Miami Heat. I mean, we saw Chris Bosh walk down a hallway and cry and the next year they came and they won a championship. And so, yes, yeah, sure. I mean, I can look at a small sample size, but most teams have to get punched in the mouth before they get better. I mean, if we're going to talk about the back end, we're not talking about what you do at the beginning or how you started.

It's how you end. And if I got to take away a legend from a team, then sure, I can use the same logic. If Tom Brady walks away because he's a great player and oh yeah, one of the reasons that he's great is not just because of his own volition. He was in a great organization that helped too. Absolutely. And J.R., I think people forget this and omit this from NFL history.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Drew Bledsoe in the late 90s was a top five NFL quarterback. Oh, he was one of the best.

He would have been an MVP candidate before Mo Lewis knocked living hell out of him. Yes. And that's what's astounding to me is you look at so many of these franchises.

I mean, you host all the time on WFEN. You talk about the New York Jets. I mean, when's the last franchise quarterback that team had? Would you even consider Vinny Testaverde when he was with the Jets, a franchise quarterback? He blew out his Achilles. Chad Pennington? I mean, does he qualify? No, it's the man who wore pantyhose. Okay, so we're talking about Broadway Joe.

All right. Now, that's the point is how is Chicago in such a major media market? They have not had a franchise quarterback since the 1980s.

It's confounding to me. You don't count Brian Hoyer? I'm just saying. I had a quarterback before I had Brian Hoyer these days, and I love myself from Brian Hoyer. I know he had some good moments with the Browns, and I know the Patriots love him because of the veteran and leadership he provides, but come on now. Well, Cutler would have been cool if he wasn't a curmudgeon.

Yeah, and if he had better choices in the quality of person than he partnered up with. I don't know about his personal life. Yeah, I do. What's her name? Crap Cavallari? Something like that.

Yeah, it's not that. Kristin Cavallari, yes. She's an actress, right?

A very demanding one at that, yes. In my opinion, I want to clarify, in my opinion. Okay. She wasn't in Pirates of the Caribbean, was she? No, that was... Oh my God, why am I blanking on this?

It doesn't matter. Okay, the woman in love, actually. Kara Knightley. That's the woman you're thinking of. Well, she's married to Orlando Bloom. No, that was the... Yes, yeah.

Well, she was the partner of... She was the on-screen partner of Orlando Bloom in Pirates of the Caribbean, correct? Listen, I'm confounding reality in the movie. It doesn't matter. That's why I talk about sports. The fact is, it doesn't matter if the Bears quarterback came off the street. It doesn't matter if they drafted him out of Ohio.

It doesn't matter. The Bears, I feel it in my bones. They're going to have another quarterback next season. Not this upcoming season with Justin Fields. They're going to run him out there and the poor guy is probably going to go into a shell shock.

He's probably going to be shell shocked. And there'll be some team somewhere that decides to bring him on next off season, maybe in the trade, because the Bears are going to suck. The Chicago Bears are going to be one of the worst teams in the NFL this season. And I fully expect them to just tank for another quarterback. Are we looking at a young? Are we looking at a Stroud? At that point, what do you do with Fields?

Move them. I mean, all things considered, I think he would have been great with the hometown Falcons, but now that's too late. And speaking of the Falcons, man, we know they're another team just looking for a quarterback. It's a hard knock life out here, folks. It really is, especially if you're QB. You're either in that top 10 or 15 or you're on the back end and you will likely be replaced.

It's tough, especially when the guys who had you don't have any allegiance and then draft you at all. Tough world. It's the JR Sport Reshow here on CBS Sports Radio speaking of a tough world.

Phone lines open by the way, 855-212-4CBS. We're going to talk about how tough of a world it is. Imagine being the son of a superstar. Imagine playing the same sport as your superstar dad. Imagine being a teenager and you got a 70-year-old who's being just critical of you or trying to be critical of your dad through you? Yeah, welcome to 2022.

Anything goes, but should it? We're going to talk about LeBron James. We'll talk about his son, Bronny, and we'll talk about someone who's made a nice piece of coin for himself by insulting other people. It's Skip Bayless. It's the JR Sport Reshow here with you on CBS Sports Radio, 855-212-4CBS. We'll get into this Bronny, LeBron, and Bayless situation on the other side. It's the JR Sport Reshow CBS Sports Radio.