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BREAKING: Supreme Court Denies Abortion Activists AGAIN

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January 21, 2022 12:00 pm

BREAKING: Supreme Court Denies Abortion Activists AGAIN

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January 21, 2022 12:00 pm

Breaking news today on Sekulow as the Supreme Court denies abortion activists – again. At the same time, for the 49th year in a row, the annual March for Life is occurring in Washington, D.C. Senator James Lankford is there at the march and joins Jordan and the rest of the Sekulow team – including ACLJ Senior Counsel for Global Affairs Mike Pompeo – to discuss the importance of caring for children both born and unborn. This and more today on Sekulow .

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Breaking news today on secular was the US Supreme Court. Abortion was born.

Now Sharon post call one 800-6843 11 secular Dave Rowe annually. The March for life is washing in DC that it would my card washing to be on this broadcaster. The March your background from her studio.

There, and that even with a cobra smaller March, but we are actually enjoying later in the broadcast by US leader James Langford was marching right now as we speak on a school choice resolution is put together which ties it again. The idea that for conservatives. This idea of the we always hear from the left. It really care about the unborn children once they are born. The school choice resolution. The idea of this we do should be to listen to our policies retype.

But that's up to member.

Nobody said that press conference when Republicans even stand for stiffer lot and maybe if you opened up at some of the windows to the White House today, he would see exactly what they stand for protecting the life of the unborn. This comes out an important date because the Supreme Court yesterday again blocked the abortion industry's attempt to stop the Texas law is different for the Mississippi case. That case will be coming out this summer.

The Dobbs case, which is a direct challenge to row this was that the law that set up a civil action where you could report abortionist or someone who works for the abortion abortionist to for a civil penalty up to $10,000 if they violate the six week bed that the court had an opportunity to send this to a judge who is not favorable to this position, but instead they kept it with the Fifth Circuit. This was again, it's another blow to the abortion industry because in the past I go to see see how this CC in the past of the Supreme Court had a way to keep abortion law blocked. That's the route they would've chosen anyone expected that even in this case that a payer going Taylor allowed the Texas Supreme Court to hear my chortling team stayed alive in the meantime. But they have not done this whole entire time that they had been that this Texas law has been attacked. Supreme Court has allowed the Texas law to remain and affect which of course has had the effect of saving babies lives so that is something we would not have seen prior to this current configuration of the Supreme Court is unique as well because that what's happening in the Fifth Circuit is they feel like one questions the state law question right and it's asked the Supreme Court of Texas to way in which his mother's records. Are those the right place, right. It will and that's not an uncommon process for the Supreme Court of the court federal court of appeals to ask the state Supreme Court, a state law question is called a certification. They started with this happen all the time, but the cases upon a writ of mandamus, dynamic right mandamus is the abortionists are asking the Supreme Court of the United States to mandamus is a Latin word that simply means we order, we order in their asking the Supreme Court of the United States. They were denied the Senate back to the district judge who is unfavorable to the view of the Texas law and the Supreme Court of the United States is look we send cases back to the Court of Appeals, the Court of Appeals, as Jordan just said said there are questions of state law in Texas that need to be adjudicated in the way you do. That is, you certify the question to the Texas Supreme Court, which is the highest court of the state of Texas to make a determination of what the state laws and until they do we keep it with the Supreme Court of Texas in the Court of Appeals, and it doesn't go back to the trial court not an unusual procedure at all with all of this happening. This was so interesting. All of this is happening right now while report has been documented when the Dobbs case, which is well over turnover. Ironically, the 49th anniversary of the right to life. March could be the year in which the Supreme Court overturns rivers plate so I think you're seeing a lot of dynamics at play with these orders. That's what you gotta pay attention to this.

These orders are significant because what they're kind of reading the q. week yeah that's right that's argument in support time of the case. It's wartime of the March for life today of the Dobbs case to this coming out. I get so all of this to all this available for you@aclj.org care about life support the work we do for life retype supported financially.

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Think about a whole life approach.

We talked about fighting for life. There's a lot of questions to that about you just get to be the last March for life under Roe versus Wade. It might be, but there will be talked about this a lot are getting so much work to do on life. If the federal government gets out of the way because what's gonna happen is you have a series of state initiatives will also be challenged immediately so it returns it to the states. But that that they will be cc challenges to the various pro-life states states that every pro-life legislature prone pro-life governor.

These law bills will become law and then what happens is will see will Bozo be challenged, so it may well be the last March for life under Roe versus Wade is not to be the last March for life because this issue we already representing what we represent the state of South Dakota so we know what's going on here but ceasing this battles that change significantly. I will say getting over swale return will be a major accomplishment.

Could you have a number of pro-life states probably majority in the country right all along and getting rid of rowdy way basically gets rid of the bad decision that created and fabricated a constitutional right to abortion which has said over and over and we all agree there is no right to abortion to be found in the Constitution.

So once it is really way gets overturned, it will be a state issue, we will still be fighting for the right to protect the baby's life and were seen with this case. In Texas they want to protect the baby's life. At six weeks or in heartbeat Mississippi case, the Dobbs case is a 15 week ban on abortion.

So these cases will continue.

I'm just just a different way with row out of the land were also be contacted by other states ready to think that what we talked ministry lives in Ohio, South Dakota number states that have these laws of capacity in the state legislature right now say basically just to explain it. If the Supreme Court rules way. We hope they do.

This law will go to factors like Mississippi's reads almost the exact same in our state that that you and so there actually are you getting those signed onto the desk of Gov. immediately there that what I think faces less legal challenge, but this case I come to Texas and Cece set Micah 6 repair of the civil action, instead of a state accurate very different and there's also the meek states that go extreme. The other what is going to be California is talking about setting up a flight service for abortions. So the battle is still going to be very much on but I think with the battle goes back to the people at the local level. Californians really can be willing to pay for flight service for their actions.

Here's often what happened to return to the states.

This may be litigation and legislative initiatives that will have to do with the states get proactive in all the sets can be important at the same time. Don't think for a moment there will not be anti-legal challenges based on state constitutions against this. This is great news, but believe me, that's gonna happen is that the farm is going to move from the federal side to the stateside, the abortionists, the killers are going to be looking basically now to attack the state laws that are going to be enacted, no doubt, for abortion against abortion, and have California on one side you can have Mississippi and Texas type laws.

On the other side but but that it's going to move to that foreman within the have to be vigilant and will then have to be supporting those states that seek the right the life that there gonna be attacking in the state Supreme Court's and then the state trial courts around the country so this is were just the battle is just going to move the state level cc. That means that being involved both the legislative process and in the litigation process is critical here, you done both. But it's gonna be critical.

I contacted all the time by state legislators wanted to draft an appropriate legislation and make sure that it is all legally correct and so we we assist with that. But we also assist when it is challenged in court on to hold that the law and protect the life behind going and we will continue to Washington DC, said at last year. The unfortunate that the barge had to be virtual but those organizers stay consistent for 49 years the March of the cold and watch the snow. Last year they figure out how to do it virtually did a lot of work with that organization before spirit spoke of their vents were to be joined by Sarah Langford later, but it is for these activist there actors who been marching there on their entire lives who see a significant change potentially on the horizon and it always seems to be the coldest day in Washington DC when this mark happens but it doesn't keep the markers away and I'll just tell you, and interacting with a few of them as I came into the office today. There is more optimism this year than ever before. I think there is a lot of hope among the marchers that this will be the last year were row is the controlling law of the land of the Jordan II would maybe just even point to some evidence on the other side. I think there's actually panic on the pro-abortion side because of that same fact I think they know that their fight is gonna have to shift to the state level as well and they are going to have to fend off attacks against their agenda on the state level here. Here's why they're afraid Jordan when you go down the local level and it's closer to the people. Life wins very consistently. It's not in it and that doesn't mean you don't have to fight immediately after fight even harder and one other point I would make there. The desperation has set in. So much Jordan that they are trying sort of the last-ditch federal effort which would actually codify row and would eliminate all state restrictions both current and future so even while much of the fight shifts to the states toward you have to stay focused on the federal level on that effort as well because they will can try to continue pushing that lookout. Look how desperate the three dissenters are in this opinion suggests prior writing for Justice Kagan and Justice of Mayor writes this when the mandate issued I had thought that the Court of Appeals would quickly remand the case to the District Court so that he could reach the merits and interim relief consistent with the ruling in said then he says instead. The Court of Appeals ignored our judgment it kept the case and certified the question about the licensing official defendants to the Texas Supreme Court as a result, an unconstitutional six week abortion or McMahon remains in effect in Texas. What's interesting about that.

He says it's an unconstitutional six week ban. Here's the problem he's only one of three justices that are signing that opinion. The other six pins on significant shift to the court. I will also produce a report it out as well that that the shift also to give state courts a little bit more autonomy on these issues. To me it's it's all it is tingling that shifted these are to be battles that the federal government is going to get out of it. Let me tell you folks that is what we been fighting the entire time he cc the entire time is been estate passes something it's immediately federal court federal court all the way up to that you usually often times, the Supreme Court, it was very difficult road. They never had a chance to implement their laws that are getting a chance to do a different day. And again, Michael. We said from the very fact that this Texas law has been able to stay in place.

The whole time. This court battle has been going on is amazing and White Fang said fighting in a state court brings it to a totally different level. We read the fallacy that there is a constitutional protection for abortion changes the game. I think entirely was interesting. You know the tactic.

Those who seemed talking about the you know the tactics can be the tactics would be to return it to the states and try to argue that there is a state right to abortion under the state constitution. That is what the trouble should be nave.

Your thing in there just to stop they're not know. I try to just transmute the forum to Integra from the federal court of the state court when you look at the state constitutions and within identified the same thing in the state constitutions of injustice on MIR again.

She so virulently in favor of this. She makes the statement in a distant quote.

I will not stand by silently as a state continues to nullify this constitutional guarantee where would shoot justice on MIR. Please show me where in the state of federal Constitution it says that and then were going to be arguing as Jay said where in the state Constitution doesn't say that I know right now sitting here today of no state that has a constitutional right to an abortion. But I bet there's gonna be Jay CC noted in argue that on the state level, they cannot only see them fight a lot less in place just to have a sterile operating conditions for an abortion force they're going to fight this and now they're absolutely going to stick to say.

Like he said is a right to abortion if it's not in the Constitution and will go to the states and argue that there are some state right to abortion folks as we come back for the next break really get into because the bigger picture to really enjoyed later broadcast with Sec. Pompeo sooner Langford but there was a comment by Pres. by remembering that love very long press conference really get to it yet receive you what Republicans will conserve what we stand for what I said there's one thing you can actually see them standing for right now opened up or turn on the TV we would see the March for life. That's what issue of bidding their school choice retirement that with James certainly as well go to this breakup encourages Fort Worth ACLJ we believe 2022 is the year for life lived redouble our efforts as we said, if rather federal court into the state court fighting for these laws states that want to put good pro-life laws into place, but ACLJ.org support our work will be right back only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn mission will show you how you personally. Publication includes all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later in history and what Obama care means many ways your membership is empowering the right question mission life today online/challenges facing Americans is freedom. Constitutional rights are under attack the American Center for Law and Justice on the front lines connecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts and Congress in the public exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times.

The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.org you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ together, there's always this idea left the issue of abortion.

Pro-life advocates all you care about is the child of the will merely talk thoroughly for later broadcast.

He is at the March for life or talk better resolution that we supported ACLJ on school choice in the US and get a whole life approach for these children. We need to give them more opportunities under our Constitution to believe those are guarantees. It should exist. Equal protection but will play few what Pres. Biden had to say about Republicans and conservatives want to respond to what you respond as well. You are talk to Sonny or what hundred 684 30 what to buy for publicans for what are they fools would therefore so the problem here is that I think what's happened is what I have to do in the changing tactic. If you have to make clear to the American people what we are for be passed a law passed a lot of things that people don't even understand with all the understated obviously failed every mentor. It's a scam. Joe Biden knows he's been sitting for long time politics. A lot of the Republicans have a slew of policy positions that art that make up the platform of the Republican Party of the conservative movement. One of those is life in the marchers today. The second of those which ties together the second part of like a school choice. That's an issue. Some of these issues are widely supported others.

We have a lot of education to do abortion. What those issues that we've been educated 50 years since Roe versus Wade to get to where we are today.

School choice is another one of those issues where people have to be learned about it understand the different kinds of school choice, but that's just a bench at the tip of the iceberg when it comes to policies.

The conservative support during the President might want to step outside the West Wing into the Rose Garden for just a few minutes because I guarantee you he will be able to hear one of the things that conservatives are our four a from down at the March for life.

All he would have to do step outside he be able to hear the look, here you go down a whole list of issues during everything from low taxation to free enterprise to human rights to school choice to parental there's a whole list of than the conservative Norfork. But here's why the President doesn't recognize, enjoy, and I really do think you can distill it down to this on almost every issue. The difference between the major parties in the United States of America right now is where they put the trust to make that decision on that relevant issue and conservatives by and large given that trusted individuals. That's where we think the inherent right. I was granted by our Creator Democrats in Washington DC right now Jordan.

They don't believe that they believe that the government is benevolent and should make those decisions for you so I could run through literally, probably 20 issues where the President knows where conservatives stand, but he disagrees that we should trust individuals on those matters and that's where the divide is for individual issues or like you talked about religious freedom and human rights, school choice, parental rights, but Harry things like constitutional framework where the people rather than the bureaucrats actually govern. I think that is a revolutionary idea today. It was not a revolutionary idea in 1776, or in 1789 in those periods of time. The people rule as opposed to the elite bureaucrats who have been seated in office since the progressive era and essentially they have become the fourth branch of government. Their unelected there unaccounted for and their unaccountable to the people.

The Biden administration rather than endorsing and embracing a whole life approach, which includes school choice. The pro-life cause energy independence.

The Biden administration. In my view, has endorsed a hold death approach it in the other aspect of this is that we have and what we do that with all Government accountability Project and we have focused on government accountability, not bureaucrats running the United States. That's right. That's what we do through our FOIA request by the way James, you know, one of the big things we do is we seek the information from the government is the statements that they make. How did you get that who was involved in and what what what decisions were made by the bureaucrats. Look, it's not the bureaucrats.

As Prof. Hutchison says that were envisioned by the framers of the Constitution to run the country. The central government of the United States is a government of limited delegated powers what's in the Constitution. Everything else remains with the people and the states and until we get that through our heads were not going to understand what the United States is about.

It is about freedom of people to govern, not bureaucrats.

Very simple. We play the remarks for our audience watches the broadcast.

A soft sitters of South Dakota speak to what we said a number of times that which you we are a country that is like only China and North Korea, and North Korea, which allow abortion the way United States does because good federalized this this Roe versus Wade that may be about to change. We also talked about that were party of human rights is been the Republican Party and conservatives that have called out the Chinese Communist Party about their ongoing genocide, whether by demonstration will recognize it and do nothing about doing nothing about the potential invasion of Ukraine effectively it is announced today that his efforts have failed so far that they did not make any progress in the negotiations discussion. I did so again I think that sometimes the left box at us. I claim to be the true supporters of human rights, but we are because were not bought off by these these countries who terrorize their own citizens.

Well first of all drawn on the first issue you mention, it's time for us to get off that list them in the rest of the world.

Even the European countries during that are lagging behind on abortion, reality their way ahead of us on this is time for us to get off that list and hopefully we will this year occur across the states, but on the issue of human rights Jordan. Look, I think there's just a big difference based on who occupies the executive branch a minute the end of the last administration. The ministration very clearly called out what is happening to the Uighur Muslims in China, even in advance of a very important cooperation between the United States and the rest of the world and China with the Olympic they were not afraid to designate this is genocide and the rest of the world has started to fall in line Jordan. This administration just has not done that so so I agree with you that the United States is still leaps and bounds ahead, but I do see a very very stark difference based on who the chief executive is to get you go through this list a healthcare freedom free and fair elections. The idea of integrity of our election system. That's a bad thing.

The constitutional framework we talked about it, but also the low taxes, free enterprise, opening up, you know, trying to be regulation via deregulation make it easier to start a business easier to employ people make the tax code more simple. Take the power out of the IRS don't double the size the IRS make it easier to file what your you pay your fair share. That's it. Don't really admit happier. But you said this the other day. The deregulation issue is as big as the tax reduction issue may be bigger. I think that's correct.

And part of the value of deregulation is that it is hidden and it's embedded and it empowers the administrative bureaucracy. So it's very very important.

In particular, in industries including the energy industry and so the United States under Pres. Biden has given up its energy independence and instead it wants to give a carveout in terms of power to elect bureaucrats who wish to impose body force their agenda on the American people and I think we should reject our folks we come back really joined by Sec. Pompeo USAir James Langford as well as to life in the March for life, which is fortworthaclj@aclj.org that's ACLJ.org support the work of the American Center for Law and Justice as we fight for life is either all those issues talk is for just a few minutes with the whole host of issues. Issues stand for something deeply more educational place which was others where we can educate people like life ACLJ is been on the frontline protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.org where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ keeping you informed and now secular secular semi receptive. If you are just joining us that the March for life right now. Lester had to be virtual this year. The limited size they allowed permitted wise but that I get to go through all the processes you would your pipes is what people stand from the right. Would you use US in that office. He was seen this for decades in Washington DC the course estate for life at that it's a bigger person just for the unborn plywood sooner. Langford joins us from the March for life ice document resolutions before the U.S. Senate on school choice. So this idea that all they only care about babies in the womb. They don't care about what happens chilled after the fact just a boldface lie were here to correct those lies.

There's also a major case out of Supreme Court again. It's up Procedural issue but important one and that is the abortion activists have tried to again take down the Texas law that unique lot six week abortion ban, which is enforced not by the state by civil actions.

The court denied the abortion industry's request to move it back to a District Court which was hostile to the law. Instead, keep it at the fifth circuit court of appeals which is awaiting a decision from the Texas Supreme Court and so added.

This law still in effect. Don't stay. This is the law of the land. Right now Texas that's exactly right, Jordan. The six Supreme Court justices said we send the case back. We send it to the Fifth Circuit. This is nothing.

There's nothing different or weird about this procedure.

This is just civil procedure 101. We sent it back to the Fifth Circuit, the Fifth Circuit said there are questions of state law that need to be decided that are not decided that we need to know about okay the way we do that as we refer and certify those questions to the Texas Supreme Court, and when the Texas Supreme Court tells us what the Texas lawyers will render a decision. But here's what Justice Breyer said joined by so Myron Kagan, when the mandate issue.

I thought that the Court of Appeals will quickly remand the case to the District Court so could reach the merits and into relief consistent with a ruling. Instead, the Court of Appeals ignored our judgment it kept the case and certify questions about the licensing officials dependence to the stake Texas state Supreme Court as a result, an unconstitutional six week abortion ban remains in effect in Texas is only one problem with this. Harry is only three justices that sign that taken so to Myron Breyer. The other six did not absolutely desperation. Basically, Justice Breyer's dissent is a recognition that he doesn't understand the law, and he certainly did not understand the Supreme Court's rule and so I think it's very very important to for the American people to be pooped, but the pressure on public opinion to basically support the Texas law and to see that similar initiatives are enacted out the rest of the United States. But getting back to Justice Breyer.

He is simply expressing his personal opinion he is not expressing a full understanding, at least in my opinion of the law. So I mean I think one of the things stand quickly here is this is going to be a pitched battle in the states.

I mean big time, no question about it. The Planned Parenthood and the other abortion forces J they're going to be out in force. They have been mainly in Washington DC over the last few decades their pivoting even now, as we are there, can engage this fight just like we will do_with lancet pivoting as we are already getting prepared for this accident prepared for about a year brought a new staff. We have announced that's the submission of you for your work and other legal things and it's a big move by the ACO to such a large organization start a new edition of the way were going to redo it. I think able to let you all know about that. Hopefully next month and that will then allow us to really prepare for the state battles. Also the legislative battles at a different level like you hurt. RT was Artie doing it. I would with a state like Ohio sticking up out of the dark senior counsel with but you lot most a lot more state solicitor Gen.'s attorney generals and governors who want to put through laws and some might want to say school and further know maybe we can go a little further as they were willing to fight this out to Supreme Court so these back to to say like they document March life picture court as we want.

It will it'll be different.

There will actually be more work to do because it won't just be stuck in the federal court system. We write back to Sec. The challenges facing Americans as time and are now free to stored constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines projecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. Not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ God where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable in voice.

Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn will show you how you are personally publication includes all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later: the history and what Obama care means many ways your membership is powering the right question for mission life today online/secular joy never senior counsel for global affairs for Secretary of State and CIA director Mike Pompeo, Sec. Pompeo politically right on this because it we talked on the show this week but it was pretty shocking when present by believing that the follow by the White House to try make it better.

Now we hear from Sec. Blake and the no progress has been made, but when he basically gave a green light for Russia to have some kind of incursion into Ukraine. What was your reaction when he started to say what what incursion is so it would be a baby, met with less resistance from NATO NATO together and a bigger incursion label to something worse yet, I was really taken aback. This is the policy that it is okay based on territory of another country, no matter how much wethers and inshore 500 miles makes absolutely no sense.

Even if the reality was that some small something might not have the same impact Presidents can talk about that and I watch the White House press team in the Security Council, off the record try to clean this up there's no cleaning it up with the commander she speaks in this way also seconded what we say before you remember when he met with the President with Vladimir Putin and said well you can't attack 16 of our industries with Cybertek that everything else is good to go.

This is clearly demonstrated policy of this administration to appease. They're doing it again with the irradiance done with the Chinese and I think this is probably Artie knew but saw this week that the United States wasn't prepared to defend the things that matter most of the United States short Mike, I want to play for you a just a little snippet of what Pres. Biden actually said because I think this is worth pointing out some apply. This is bite number six will display a little bit I'll tell you when it edit.

Let's go ahead.

Russia will be held accountable if it invades it depends on what it does. One thing you just minored incursion to end up having to fight about what to do and not do etc. that right there so it could have a small invasion in Russia from Russia that may be okay, so I'm thinking to myself I know a little bit about Ukraine.

I had some experience with Ukraine is remember that was called a four-week trial before the United States Senate, where Pres. from was impeached and acquitted, but impeached over a phone call with Pres. Zelinski.

Meanwhile your administration when you were Secretary of State provided more munitions ammunition and military defense Ukraine than any previous administration in US history including Republican other Republican administrations.

So I think to myself, Pres. trumpet was the impeachment process for a phone call.

Joe Biden invites Russia into eight incursion into Ukraine and Democrats are saying nothing comprehensible to me to the outrage that I hear your voice.

I share 100%.

This experience and you don't need that. You need to be an American who was involved in the process to get a look at the response from the Ukrainians themselves. His response is by donation and no minor incursion. Pres. Biden went on to say that our people even with democracies. We should be great. European should take defending the price we did it.

Administration is 20,000 soldiers that make any sense. We did the right thing to preserve that America happened to think the President phone call with with Zelinski and United States spent weeks investigating this and impeaching the President now we have this outcome from this President and Democrats that silent politics and it really dangerous shock and horror is what Ukraine leadership said when they saw this was a sector, you know Presidents as you and I and all of the snow have to be very very discreet with classified and sensitive information very circumspect and what they signal to the rest of the world now hamstrung.

Do you think Sec. blinking was today your successor and Geneva and is there any way that we can clean up the mess that Pres. Biden made earlier in the week without without knowing for sure.

My guess is the second table and had a very short leash there when he was with his Bar for Mr. Alvarado. I know well I guess he didn't have much space there wasn't much he could do my best to say that I, looked at it and said you say you can't put the sections on your President told us we could conduct a minor incursion is probably pretty unpleasant conversation to put the State Department in a tough place where there leverage their ability to demonstrate American credibility was really, really limited his way to recover from that yes just just this one kid recover from incredibly lost with 13 Americans killed in Afghanistan, just as you can recover from handing the Russians a pipeline.

There are things that ministrations can do what I just simply not seen Pres. Biden show them where with all that the gumption to demonstrate resolve and I think she should pain Jerry again, who announced this week that he may resume his nuclear testing policy he would've done that with Pres., but I did office that the world is watching what's taking place that I could see that America is in a very different place than it was just that 66 days ago and he made it clear to world that NATO was, not unified, that in fact, that they would have to fight about the words present Biden use fight about what they would have to do if it was one of those minor incursion is that the argument on board with whatever military action but also the sections that he keeps threatening. This was a President who said that here. If collected will be friends will be great partners, you can forget trumpet Pompeo who were simply troublemakers will work alongside each other goodbye. You present Biden's words that he doesn't have the Germans fully on board that I think that in spite of the fact that the Germans have a lot more to lose in this United States actually does. They should be the ones leading this effort to deter the Russians from incursion of any size major in the you know Harry I was thinking about this week and Mike. We talked about this. The economic impact of all of this to talk, but the significant sanctions in all this. But then Europe could be on the other end of the sanctions in the sense with her inability to do business with Russian, which can cause other problems A sandal right. I think that is correct and part of the issue is an absence of American leadership to basically provide a pathway for Europeans to support sanctions against Russia. So what happens then Mike if in fact there's this discord in Europe on this will delete when we want to sexually arrange the Europeans didn't want to go. We did it anyway and it was incredibly effective.

We cross the Arabian economy week of the GDP data forbade dollars of foreign exchange reserve is possible America delete it is better when our partners and friends and allies come alongside of us and I hope that sec. blinking is able to convince them to do that is one second thinking about what the revocations I talked about economics when the rest is to move and take a guess and to close Ukrainians access to the Black Sea.

This has deep economic and vocation not only on agriculture and energy.

More broadly, I think this is what Vladimir Putin is positing folks in Belarus and on his west edges is not is not too far stretch of imagination something very significant taking place as the Russians West that have Crimea and all of what is today Ukrainian southern boundary that sent final question for you. They sec. Pompeo to shift gears a little bit so much for life and it's much like 49th anniversary, but it's up bit different this year because people are waiting hopefully a great decision from the Supreme Court as a case in Mississippi got a small decision on this record today about the Texas case and it was a good sign. There a bigger case a direct challenge to Roe and and and people need to see the capacitances can be the last March, but in fact it will be a renewed effort redoubled effort for life is if the Supreme Court is to do the right thing that I smile and I thought about things that Esther was a very challenging place. This one brings me joy.

Where on the cusp of the historic change which will provide deep protections for human life and for the dignity of every human being. I feel joy.

I am waiting for this decision in Georgia points right this this will be our last March we been marching for years we get from Kansas. It would come in for hot chocolate after the close margin on the capital.

It was such a lovely things that the next generation of pro-life Americans coming to Washington will need to keep it up. That left the progresses will continue to attack no matter what the Supreme Court as I I am hopeful that the Supreme Court will bestow a real blessing for children in America will be a place as more respect for human life at its 1970 yeah and you know we're already working. We have been for a year on how to then represent states when those challenges become more focused on the states and the states initiate laws we been working on that quietly per year will announce it at the right time.

Exactly what were planning but again it is an historic opportunity.

This could be the last March for life will be the last March for life, but the last March for life under Roberson by which I think I'd see it but looks like were on the cusp likely appreciated as always on my Pompeo horse former Secretary of State, former director of former CIA director and are senior counsel, global affairs.

Thanks a much of it with us.

Appreciate your insight is always right folks, we come back we are to be joined by US and or James. They freeze at the March right now is talking about two and that's the March report on this idea but also by the city of Oklahoma's got a new resolution being put forth in the Senate. We talked that a whole life. Those issues school choice. That's all it was a shift double down Supreme Court open the door to it very much. So today to find out in the states position takes a lot of education people to get a lot of support only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice.

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ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ secular friend of the ACLJ U.S. Senate or James Lankford of Oklahoma satellite right that you are a broadcaster, you are at the March for life.

So my first question for you is just what is the mood like because we know this is major case the Dobbs case. There's a lot of positive vibes around that that the Supreme Court may do so for this 49th March for life was in a different kind of mood this year. Breathing cold out here but it is like being in a college football game. There is so much energy in the abdomen.

The crowd really remarkable out I don't have any light that, but it is a different kind of electricity. This year we have so much anticipation that will finally be in a row America in the month that I said this J center. I just said to my Pompeo was a son with a surfing counselor global affairs is not enough. I was the seat of my lifetime. The overturning of reversibly but I think were on the cost me could be belittling any any week now I'm at it, we get down to the where you know about a month you start really looking for. When the opinions can come out but talking about kind of the whole life approach in Europe. The March life right now you've got legislation right now that you put forward that deals with school choice and that is something that when covert it we always been involved in, but we really got involved. We helped 1800 families during that period of time, tells about this legislation to allow parents to build a negative control what's best for their child.

Even child. The child and this is not a discriminatory issue on public schools shall be public schools private school parochial schools. Charter schools and magnet schools homeschools all of those options available to be out there for the individual parents to build negative Satan will try for their individual child. You may have an older child and a younger child. There are five children. You know they're all different and so right now however set up is if you live in this house.

No matter what your child like what directors need to articulate your mandate to go to. We know that's not best for children to get the more individual option to get out more often, that strengthens how we do education in America, and it gives the option for especially faith-based parent will make sure that guarding their kids to be in a place that doesn't discourage their faith that actually matches but certainly for the school choice movement part of educating people to get nervous sometimes about covert hit so much more support.

Some people are open to ideas with its vouchers, whether straight up school choice. These different programs and they were just sick and tired of hearing we hear every day from some school administrator is not the parents. It's the state and the school board that should be setting and in the parent should stay out of it.

People kinda sick and tired of that need to know that there not been cut out of her own child need to know that they're being supported not discourage non-Celtic in their child to school that their school till then their parents are not good decision-makers for their family and undercut.

They want to know the current active part of their child's education and every teacher will tell you. Education is better if parents are more involved.

So the big key if you're about to let parents involved in what the options to be able to go work best for the child not anti-public school advice that will note not the vast majority of our kids will be in our public schools. We want them to be strong as well. Not anti-public school giving every parent the option even within public schools Center, one of the things you talk about in legislation. In the preamble actually is the critical race theory issue and that that is become and it has become a big trigger and Harry Hutchison are our counseling to counsel for policy but also law professor has talked about this issue of critical race theory and it will all go to the center moment. But Harry, I think giving really tight definition of what that is will critical race theory is essentially a disguised form of Marxism that would basically separate the parents from the educational process and so in other words, students would become controlled primarily by the state and this would be a state led and controlled by progressive elites who seek to destroy and overthrow the foundations of the United States and the rule of law is and center my own grandkids and in then you see description in the private schools even that that they had to deal with this whole critical race theory and would need earlier six and 79. They're not even thinking about race in any negative way and all of a sudden now there being really put in a very awkward situation. Center readily painful right here is the day we those individuals about that are passionate about our nation.

We love going back but our founding old and we look at our country, warts and all your mistakes are made in the ground here is the strength of our complication that allows the evenly made mistakes the nation to be able to continue to be able to make changes in the mail to grow as a country were stronger or better as a nation we work 200 years ago, but were not trying to destroy the foundation which will critical race. That is all that evil everything else.

People need to be guilty for the sins of their great-grandparents and face condemnation that each person stands before God. Under that accountability for their own actions and their own life on that but will respond lack of opportunity for individuals we destroy that as a nation that every person has equal responsibility, equal opportunity, and people are not punished for the consequences of their grandparents wise teachings alluded to, and I think it's critical race theory is so important that we focus on the horrible nature of what it seeks to do but say once again why is teaching students that they are guilty or victimized based on the color of their skin and anti-American concept in any American because of the basic principles of our nation that every person is responsible for their own action and every person at the opportunity to succeed. And when that opportunity is blocked, we take away any barrier that each person can do that at this critical race theory to school and that there are press and oppressors and have certain color skin young oppressor, no matter who you are. Color then you're depressed no matter who you are that violates our most basic principle that every person is great equal in the image of God. It never equal opportunity the greatest based on our so we don't want to teach people start you can't succeed because your next class and upper class or that you shouldn't try to defeat because you're an oppressor class. We want everyone to build a 60 denomination question for you in March. I appreciate you joining us live from the March for life.

But the idea to that an unfortunate right now.

I mean I see it's a partisan issue, even to build back better. We saw the provision for early childhood education, but excluded religious schools who provide the majority of that early childhood education in our country.

They wanted it cut out so this is another wills key distinctions between the left which is controlled by the teachers unions and what the state telling you everything your parents know, scared to even show up at a beauty versus other conservative approach to giving power back to the parents that the more that we can actually say were not people based on their faith or lack of faith that in America in this great nation. You can have they change your paper have no faith at all in your respected what the left want to do is say I'm sorry for people of faith and we want to exclude you from being connected with your own government with multiple Supreme Court cases materially from multiple other continue to affirm that we cannot have a nation based on our country from pencils or people of faith or deliberately excluded by their own government, but the listings to be obsessed with finding new ways to exclude people of faith in their own government. James Langford, talking to us from the March for life in cold cold cold Washington DC center thanks as always for me with really appreciate that guide available to even talk to when I lived appreciate your support of the ACLJ makes all of this possible ACLJ.org follow us on all the social media.

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