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URGENT: ACLJ Takes Emergency Action At The Supreme Court

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URGENT: ACLJ Takes Emergency Action At The Supreme Court

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December 20, 2021 12:00 pm

On Saturday, the American Center for Law & Justice filed an emergency stay with the Supreme Court after a federal appeals court just sided with President Biden’s lawless overreach. President Biden is forcing private employers with at least 100 workers to make medical decisions for their employees by requiring them to get a COVID-19 vaccine. Jay, Jordan, and the rest of the Sekulow team discuss the ACLJ's latest emergency action and what it means. This and more today on Sekulow.

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The ACLJ takes emergency Supreme Court now, call one 800-6843 11 welcome to secular love you so much of you may have seen this most of you probably got Saturday, we found emergency action before the US Supreme Court Saturday evening late the evening.

This is because on Friday evening the six circuit Court of Appeals lifted the stay on the Bible administrations vaccine mandate for businesses with 100 or more employees that was scheduled to go into effect January 4, though technically it still goes into effect as it stands, this moment on January 4, but the enforcement would not begin until February 9 so would give companies add additional side 30 days. There little bit more that to figure out how they were going to do this.

Watching people get tested who are vaccinated. Putting that into a system creating new databases. So what do we do it we represent the heritage foundation this case we found emergency action of the Supreme Court on Saturday evening. So RT was working through the weekend through the late hours because this came out Friday evening to get this product up on the screen right now. If you watch it. It's asked the court what two things. What is a Arbor at the stay, but sec it is and or to grant certain to hear the arguments in this case is on an expedited basis. We explained all this for you today. But this is again an emergency action so far we've not heard anything out of the court and we just did so we got this just a few minutes ago but I know that I've actually seen the copies are. Here's what the Supreme Court is now said they said your application per se has been submitted to acknowledge that they perceived it.

It will be reviewed once the hard copy is received. So I just entered a text out to our staff to make sure the hard copies was over the weekend and the buildings really closed so this but there's places the minutes and were right across the street.

Our office is right up literally literally across the street from the Supreme Court of the United States.

We are their neighbor.

So all we have to do is get Ben or Christie or someone walk it over and violet. So I just sent a text just now to our team.

Let's verify that we have all will be good. Let's verify that we have in fact submitted a hard copy and that that will then trigger the process is that of use unusual during this time were they been operating, sometimes remotely, sometimes a person that that that would rely on survey data, such as the court by more time than what's happened is this is this move very quick.

You know, surprisingly quick. Out of the six circuit Court of Appeals. Maybe I think I love anybody was preparing them in that sentiment. We did not bring Bob say we were in the five or six petitions that involve exhibitor file within literally and we father's petitions. Within hours after the decision came in within a day of when the decision came out but this is outgoing and in this we done this before states are and we need to be clear on this will get into it more on that we work tirelessly in and Abby Sutherland and Eric Zimmerman, and Weiner team did a bit miles Jordan all busted and Andy. Larry was working on me probably about eight words. I guess it lawyers working on this over the weekend but getting a stay is not an easy thing. Andy is not no it's not. I think over the years. I think you've gotten may be over 40 years that we've gotten five or six days and those have been mainly in First Amendment cases in which there is the First Amendment was implicated in and things like that but it's not an easy thing to get in. I think on a case like this. I think it's good to move very very quickly if they grant any kind of relief it's good move. Very crowded by the end of the this case we ever I think that is correct and I also think that the Supreme Court will be under enormous pressure to move expeditiously and I also think the American people who want the Supreme Court to come up with a decision soon. The interesting thing is it may not issue an administrative state. Yet, so we'll talk about what all that means About that regular folks your own name or social media platforms share this with you Apsley share with your frigid family. Also, there's big news.

Consider Job action did the right thing. It was constituents what it which is come out said no.

I would no vote on go back better bill back that whatever you call it dead because this intervention, he deserves credit for that moves under tremendous pressure from the Democrat party is received in the media as well and we beat the talk about that too as well the broadcast station to get to that as well support our work at ACLJ.double the impact your donation will give working through the weekend to fit your rights. Get it ACLJ.org double the impact matching challenge through the month of December will be right back. The American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad.

Whether it's defending religious freedom.

Protecting those who are faith uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 gift becomes 20 oh $50 gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ the work we do. Simply would not occur without your generous support in our matching challenge today make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you and your family a beautiful gift today online ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free hour for publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the abortion industry and what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right to life question free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/November 29 we file on behalf of the Heritage foundation, we represent the heritage foundation in federal court. This case gets consolidates. We followed DC, but gets consolidated to the Sixth Circuit, the Fifth Circuit has a stay that prevents this mandate from going into effect.

That's with the Sixth Circuit. They decided they would they would put out a decision on this day was a three-judge panel. It came out on Friday evening just last week, but you have to be on their Friday evening and we filed by spy Saturday evening we were filing at the US Supreme Court. 56 circuit for Todd to differ ask what is emergency stay to is and or us granting Certs of granting surgery to hear the case of this is we challenge the backseat. The mandate from the federal government asked what we've always said the state governments have the authority to do this is within their state power the federal government does not. But here's what's so interesting and we represent the heritage foundation, which is been an early promoter or early supporter of a vaccine options we have been as well, but we don't think the federal government can mandate this know what's interesting about. There's a couple things interesting about procedurally. This took AMM holding a brief my hand focus is a lot of work in eight I mean you're talking about a tremendous amount of work in the number of hours about to put it on a appliqud. Let me read exactly what it says. It's called a heritage foundation's emergency application for stay of agency action pending judicial review and for administrative state and petition for writ of certiorari before judgment. So it's a work we got three asks in the in the in the pleading. What's important here is there's been about six of these file now there's I think 132 plaintiff's in these cases six groups since law firms now about all of which I read which I'm very good friends with.

We thought it was.

There was a decent chance will you get an administrative stay this weekend of the order.

We did not get into what that exactly means but aerate the legal issues here are significant and we just made it a legal argument were not getting into that science were not getting in the medicine it's the legal argument. It's the statutory authority arguments. It's the constitutional federalism principles that are at stake here.

I think that's precisely correct acts are really two issues come to before. Number one the commerce clause and then number two the constitutional grant to states of police power which the Supreme Court has routinely supported and so I think you can make very solid legal arguments that the emergency standard issued by OSHA exceeds the authority of the federal government because the commerce power at at least as defined by the Sibelius case. That is the Obama care decision basically upheld the Obama care mandate not on the basis of the commerce clause, but on the basis of Congress's power to tax. That's number one. Then number two if you go back to the Jacobson case, which was decided in around 19 oh sex in that particular opinion. The Supreme Court held upheld the right of states to engage in police power action designed to protect their citizens. The Biden administration has blown through all of these constitutional safeguards largely for this is my view political purposes and but we have attacked this initiative largely on the basis of the Constitution itself is an interesting thing here at issue that is developed and the end that is surprisingly George W. Bush appointed judge. It was very good's judge of the US core bill for six circuit ruled in favor of the mandate that's got everybody's kind of scratching their heads was a strong dissent in the case and then two days before when there was an en banc request was denied, which included conservative judges. And that's true, it seems that the conservative judges and yes, the Bush appointed judges are not falling in line with the conservative and federalism concepts that we held in turn be so included and so important to us and I'm disappointed in saying that, but I understand that's how judges are. Once they get confirmed an appointment that sometime is a concert she's a conservative judge of music teaches at a consistent conservative position. She just said and I can put their viewing for the health and safety of OSHA, which is surprising that we had a conservative you got conservative judge that doing this now, I have said from the beginning that this is an uphill battle in the next segment will get into what that means, but people need understand our audience needs to understand your team here at the ACLJ our team work tirelessly.

There were I'm counting now. Here lawyers that were working on it, Jordan, me, Andy, Harry, Abby, at White Eric Zimmerman and probably leaving something out. Christie Christie Serra was on it as well as finding I leave out Laura Hernandez and Miles are basically 10 lawyers on this all weekend. Actually we get this done 24 hours, so I'm holding in my hand again, but we filed. We have filed with the Supreme Court of the United States to Brett Cavanaugh as the associate Justice of the Supreme Court and the circuit justice for the Sixth Circuit, which means he's in charge of what happens in the Sixth Circuit.

He could technically he could technically Jordan grant the state himself or he could deny the say himself or he could refer to the entire court for determination.

That's right.

And and so this is what's interesting here is you got a think about yours is Cavanaugh with this 24 hour delay that we see where usually get some kind of order addition of the stay could be something only stays for a few days, like administrative stay which you know we could talk about the that this is is it more likely he's getting feedback or you can refer this to the entire all all-night justices so that's the question here is its briefing schedule that we were told by the court there, waiting for the hard there waiting for the hardbound bracelet that the they do have that that what's been filed so again they bought a little bit more time there. I guess that that the city would put a decision out before that they got that from the printers which everybody, even if you file on Saturday. These printers were not open until today. And so were going through that right now and dealt so they'll have that delivered today which means I get it that would allow to be of a bar to them issuing some kind of an opinion, but just to understand what the ACL GTP turnaround one of holy by hips. It's 22 pages a file before the court for this.

It's almost a out was 40 pages you had to file. This was all done in less than 24 hours on that for heritage foundation with a three-part task in emergency application per se and administrative stay in a writ of a petition in the alternative writ petition for certiorari before judgment. So there are three when the court called extraordinary request for relief that we filed in it to listen. Figuring out what rules to comply with. I spent a night and I know others did to looking at what rules to be applied on the part when the decision came down Friday to make sure we can get before the court, but you know anyone before the court and working in the next day Marin. Talk about likely outcomes, but this was a monumental effort. It was a monumental effort and whenever that was put forward by a lot of were were all lawyers working many hard hours a day and that you and I worked as Saturday night looking at even commas and colons in.

And whether or not we have the adequate sources cited in the case in the brief. Those are important little things, but it makes a difference within a good brief in a mediocre break and I think we filed an outstanding product on behalf of our client in the Supreme Court of the United States would just see what happens. We served our client heritage foundation very well and her lawyers did a great job and I would say thank you and all of them and I know you are listening audience. Those of you there watching would say the same thing think it was a monumental task. It's just a phase 1 of this test we get the next morning talk about with phase 2 looks like it could be very I will I will preview the next segment one little thing, Jordan, that is.

This could move unbelievably quick because the temple applicant implication date. The date of its implementation is January 4 are letting that the negative stuff insert article February 9, but plaguing the scenarios of of difficulty with comply with this are unbelievable. That's right episode first sits either for people talked about the Peoria or the country. These idea you could just go by the $20 test the store at the Walgreens and CVS are grocery store.

Sometimes you walk into they got plenty of them. And sometimes you walk it or they don't have any, and so what if you walk it out and said they'd do it for Monday and limits the employee has to provide the test, the employer could, but the employer in this scenario that the burden is on the unvaccinated employee and employer to thin the employers got a carbon to designate someone as a test watch so that subsequent to exposing them to potential buyers interested there for 15 minutes of the workday with this other place it toward voicing their 15 minutes to be 20 employees that they stuff a test they administer themselves so you don't have any immediate safeguards in place. For instance, what happens when those employees. The test that it comes back negative but then they that spreading spreading in this case as it played some wood liable because we know the sets are pretty accurate but I do hundred percent applicant and all of those questions conflict this database you with a great on your employees.

You also would have to get all of your employees who were vaccinated all their cards and at least have some kind of I guess copy you have to get copies of those file those away and that's a changing a definition as well right now that's two shots, but in a month that might be easily 33. The XO, then you gotta go through all of your employees and say okay. The woods were vaccinated out there know I gotta go through that process again because of what they've mandated is what needs to be vaccinated to see the issues here. That's why support a work@aclj.org -itis against the federal power grab donate online for Department matching challenges month of December ACLJ.or will be right back only one.

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And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold mission like it will show you how you are personally pro-life support and publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the worship ministry and what Obama care means to the pro-life many ways your membership is powering the right question free copy of mission in life today online/American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those who are persecuted for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 gift comes 20 oh $50 gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ. The work we simply would not occur without your generous support to Courtney and her matching challenge make a difference in the protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you and your family. Give a gift today online ACLJ life here about what hundred 684 31 to get questions about this question about out. It could impact you if you could be a small business owner and still fill this talk that this is for big companies with 100 or more employees, and not in one location which United States is a small business right right but that that the way that they've done. This is is a large deserve for a large business bandit, but this would impact you if you got 40 people somewhere 40 people somewhere else.

20 people who never go to the office but they would still count that now those people never go to an office you have to go to their house and test they do accept those people out. They also have an exception for people who work outside.

I don't really understand how that works, because even people who work in construction work on the road.

The stilt clock in the pickup vehicles there in their also transporting it close places with each other to the rocks so I'm not sure who that applies to which again is another thing that OSHA is really not also ready to put this in place.

Okay, we just got the rate at some breaking news here we are docketed our case number is 21 a, 249, the government response is due December 30, so there given them a week 10 days. My through the through Chris knows that yet. No state at the way the 60 walk by then they witnessed this way can we get can I actually have the talk alive on air here and some imprint for me the actual on the Supreme Court website. The order but they would. They just said okay so we are docketed our case numbers 20 18249 government response is due December 30 I want to pick today of request for response from us and that gave me the order I need the order because that's the tell me what they have any kind moving as we can anticipate again began to govern a little bit more time to respond than I would've thought, but they have not. At this point is you to stay as they've been issued but not 10 days is been given the government to file a response.

There is an found foundations application for relief from the Supreme Court of the United States that's moving very quickly. I think something is going to happen before the first of the year. Well I mean is pre-private 30th.

It depends a big mess and reply. Normally they may not hear. They may say you get your but you know normally it's a reply, but let's take a call and then I got an economic question from Harry and Henry, let me take them thinking we put this in our brief.

There is an employee shortage right now there's a supply chain problem. What does this do economically when you at all and you got a surging number of publications.

What is it do economically to the country when all this was a bliss going take a phone call first arena college in California online one, a reader welcome to secular you're on the air, nice no words can guide how thankful we are to the Lord for all of you. So Jamie I want to know that Congress just ruled that we that that they cannot mandate the backing for so how is it that you have to now all the sudden registering court due to resolution opposing the mandate. It does not stop. Remember anything that went through.

If eclipsing the house did also adopt that which they would under Pelosi blessing change happens in the next election cycle you get when visa began work at the abide can veto it. It's just like any other, so he so there's not really there's the things you can get legislative you get them out of the record on it that they don't believe that the federal government was there part of to write has the power to do this and should not be doing this, you had to Democrat sinners.

It was Joe mansion John tester out of Montana and this close to it.

If support tester is is pretty much a partyline guy were that the economic impact is also looking at a place like where he rep just like in Montana where the bat where even the big employers I be this a lot of space but had a and the idea that you can put the same kind of requirements on companies in Montana that you would put on companies that are operating in New York City. It is is doesn't make a lot of sense and also look at how companies are self governing their you always do that.

It it it will all look at the what's a reasonable company doing the big companies where these outbreaks are happening our city.

People help so that there are men they don't need a mandate to do it because they don't want their boys dead so they did. They don't literally all their employees out of your sick where the Operate so that they dictate they take the measures we took measures here. There was your filtration system doing it without being that neither they nor our acting in a responsible way at both the beggar Corporation level.

I think the small business levels. Best they can. We put it in a expensive high infiltration systems were production studios and additional offices and when it's it space where we put all these air felt as an amendment money right here right now. Nobody mandated that we did it we just did it because it was smart, but there is real economic consequence. Here Harry to all this right absolutely certain it increases the level of economic uncertainty going forward.

Employers will doubtlessly lose some employees with respect to the full implementation of this mandate, number two, it will likely expand what is called the underground economy.

In other words, it might be illegal activity, but will be off the books. It may or may not influence the rise in independent contractors who actually deliver services to employers but I also think at the end of the day.

This particular approach by the federal government ignores the possibility that natural immunity will be helpful going forward. Apparently something like 100 million Americans have had coded and have recovered and so certainly those individuals that have natural immunity and let's say they've had one injection of the vaccine. Then the question becomes whether they would be considered fully vaccinated, even if at the end of the day.

They may be seen as less of a threat to their fellow workers. So there are lots of uncertainties out there leaving another one so not that there's enough work to do before the as we get to the end of the year. I just got notification that the United Nations human rights Council is calling for briefs on the topic of whether Israel is committing part-time, so I believe I put a team together to respond to that.

So that rape will be worked on as well, so whether it's a springboard United States office of the UN were engaged in this and next year when even engage in that in a higher level. So we'll talk more about that in the days ahead. But obviously leaders get the order that's all. It's okay.

We got it so let me.you go and talk to him is Yeah so what will oversee this order space.

It's exactly said this at all.

It says so far is a request by the Justice Department response by 4 PM on Thursday, December 30.

There's nothing in there about a stay yet. That doesn't mean that will come with that usually come in the same order as to that beat with the usual administrative stage easily granted the time of submission. So if they say the things I did not do they have to come out that I know they could just let it sit and that's it that I hosted by the abide not right now. That log comes in affecting report this issue.

Part out the previous made by the 30s and feeds. I think that they are that likely path to make some decision on this before January 4, and they also January 4 as we are supposed to start complying yeah right you don't electrified by the government until early February night we had a busy half-hour coming up. Yes, I forgives us all about this to because certainly this puts employers a different position. They were Friday 5 PM there doubting different position and what they have their give us a call 1-800-684-3110 and how it may impact you as employee 100-6431 10 to talk to so there support the work they see okay generating all this in less than 24 hours out of the cave.

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That's why you support us financially, if you could do so, you double the impact your donation this month of december@aclj.org noted today that ACLJ.org `the American Center for law and justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be managed $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in the protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most to you and your family. Give a gift today online ACLJ.keeping you informed anything now is Jordan secular political patients. All of this down first. Of course we we filed an emergency application to the Supreme Court this weekend so you just joining us this just to reset it for you Friday night. The six circuit comes out of the lift stay on the vaccine mandate for employers with over 100 hundred or more employees that goes into effect January 4. The penalties begin February 9 actually lift the state that was it and it's that Frightens a three-judge panel did we take it to the Wii reps at the heritage foundation. We take it to the Supreme Court, asking for two different kinds of stay, but also for the court to grant certain just out issued an order asking for the Department of Justice to provide briefing by 4 PM Eastern time on December 30. So exactly 10 days for right now, they have not yet issued anything on a stay for that time. In between now technically between now December 30. It's not into effect yet so I don't know if they even administrative stay for that. But what we technically bring out but usually it would, yeah, I mean technically you're right, I mean but but normally because you won't want this thing this is a major case you would issued to stay pending the disposition. So even if an expedited briefing given a mere 10 days to respond okay to give him 10 days to respond Spina. December 30 is not a fats pastor of the court. Restaurants would benefit three days at me I let you know so this is this is 10 days and then normally we have a reply to, but also it's interesting here and he is.

This does not breakfast the justice Cavanaugh has notched his first notice of these 23 years old. This should not be sent. Normally they would eat that you don't have to. It would be refer to the entire court does not appear that's happening so no stay no referral yet now I'm rather surprised that there hasn't been an administrative stay issued by the circuit just as Fred Cavanaugh and referral to the full court, but instead there was a briefing schedule set for December 30 and I actually thought that the rather long time today I can give them 3 to 5 days with a given them all 10 days which is along time in which to reply to what we have petitioned the court to do exercises is my mother. I think five other cases as well that are out there submit the same response to each each entity.

But what's interesting here is this is good to move in rapidfire, I mean this is very very quick to see. I think I think before January 4 Harry working independent.

I think that's very, very likely, and I think the key question at the moment is whether that opinion is simply a disposition by justice Cavanaugh alone or whether not the entire court takes this up. Yeah, I yeah I mean I'd harder believe they went at least well and one speculate as yet. So what we do know is that the department justice has to respond. I intend days I to these applications for the emergency stay through the, the, also two other merits to to actually grant assert in this case I this again. I can have a disposition of this does look like it so it at least after the Christmas holidays. Maybe before New Year's and litigants posted you're supposed to be in compliance. On January 4 they just are going to find you until February night W followed by the law comes into effect on January 4 with we are at the normal holidays of the United States and think how you can and that employers have been relied on this day from the in the in the circuit courts, yes, and affected OSHA I said here that we really that doing theater February then how are they going to do it and what is it outside employee versus the indoor employee and ended again you have to. They have to educate the public on which I don't. And they've always done a bad job after this whole crisis is that it doesn't mean you have to have 100 employees. One location is total so literally 95 people work from home, you would have to test them for five people go to the office.

This still applies to those five people. The way this law is written. At least it's the (exposing our lease to testing and in the in the employee. This monitoring is exposed the virus and I mean all sorts of things that you have to do you have to wait Avenue, room in your building is to be tested. Group added new database because you also the database of all be vaccinated with many employees felt that was a personal decision.

It won't be January 4. As of right now They is issue] secular the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those who, through their faith, uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress.

ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that.

We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 gift becomes 20 oh $50 gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ the work we simply would not occur without your generous take part in our matching challenge make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you and your family. You forgive today online LJ only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free hour for publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold mission like it will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the abortion industry and what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is powering the right question for you, mission life today online/secular.

We are I take your photo to your questions about this.

What hundred 64 3110. I would understand. Why have questions about this, as employee listed your employer as of right now. January 4 is to say, give that back start.

I got so gotta releasing us takes up an electronic copy that to create a database of this and you're going to be sub you can't like high that from your employer, decide that you want to share that information and and then you have to create a database and right now you know.

Vaccinated needs to two shots that's feels like as we all see the do some kind of change in potentially where that might not occur and remember you don't need your anger should not be on your point in this.

Remember, most of these map big employers you would like the heritage foundation is one example of the conservative world of groups. They got it on the hundreds of employees, but also big business is also saying we do want to do this and states are also filed. So I will get to that the list right now like I think the first one docketed was is a state of Missouri.

And so the observed miseries put into place to see our businesses can't do that should and shouldn't have to be response for the tightly entire state's report wasn't but yet insignificant puts people at a very unique and tough position because massive fines if they take no action begin occurring February 9 potentially five to put it close your business if you don't quickly get into compliance and figure out what that means. It's a it's a get it. There's a lot of troubling parts of this. So if you got question about it.

I understand it gives a call one 800 684 31 to we can explain where the legal process is going but also what happens if they don't take the action to prevent this and allow the government issued out still be dotted emergency fashion. This is not a way yet on whether the court whether they could mandate this forever, but what we see with with people like thou cheap.

Hope it is you.

He said this week and he doesn't see ever airline travel without mass so they're already looking post emergency and I do think I get there letting you go to effective January, but the really not enforcing it to February. We could be a very different position than where we are right now wit with covert site it again to be its was a lot of bird-dog businesses is it special big corporations think about you got thousand employees like the space to all across the country, place like that.

But even your bank, your your ear, your local bank connected to like Wells Fargo or bacon or whatever they gotta do it thereto, so they gotta go through this process.

There even if there we got 20 employees because they are part of a company that's thousands of employees, even if that would 20 or delegates that once they really operate with a very small business. This is this is all the issues here so if you question about gives a call one 800 684 30 what I'm looking at the court's docket sheet right now up on the sprinkler website and were docketed as case number 21 a is for application 249 there looks like there's about eight of these filed are all getting the same order which is a response the application requested by Justice Cavanaugh due by 4 PM on Thursday, December 30, 2021 was 10 days basically from now. The responses do what's not in there is two things that jump out to me anyone is there's not a administrative state is not been issued and of the order. So the six regulars the body which means employers have to get ready and there's been no referral to the court Cavanaugh to keep this in the bosom of Justice Cavanaugh, at least until December 30 because he is decided not to refer to the core fragment and as a circuit justice for the Sixth Circuit has arrived to do that but I still think that we can have some definitive ruling is not that once the stream is not a house in the 51 is not of chaos as we file three others in file. I did not refer this to the court while you get amazing that he didn't and I just don't even have to. It's not required under the rules of the Supreme Court, but I would've thought that he would refer to the full court. Instead, he set a briefing deadline for the government to respond by December 30 and at the going is going to do something or either he is going to do something before this law takes effect. I am pretty well convinced of that. I think he can either he can on his own tonight. Maybe they have denied some of these applications before binary be good tonight just because we can and and certainly from a historical perspective. I I'm can confused as to why he would want to take this responsibility only upon himself but again I don't know him personally that he is usually is when I'm done I just dumped him talking out loud here but been doing this for four decades. Here's what he could do. Mrs. C is getting it up right before that he will decide whether state gets issued at that point is Lakisha George is not in effect. He issues I'm not saying this will happen.

He could issued to stay at that point, as the case is referred been to the entire Supreme Court to see if there's enough votes for certain Roy is a lot could happen. These the next while there will maybe not so much that happened the next 10 days and less sub order came out later, integrating administrative a ready to for replies that I think we got to get ready, but but it looks like it'll be two days from now. So right it's over at the end of the year into this right.

December 30 because I get the replies potentially maybe Maddie applies her ally hasn't yet. That which is interesting so there's a lot of ways it can go so sleep the big take away years. Beware ready Americans and blonde justice prayer team is ready. Your support makes a huge difference in ACLJ.org yet that's right.

If you get we do have people call them will get those calls, writing a 100 684 31 to there couple more phone lines open for if you questions about this.

I would shift a little bit got those calls come and it will take more questions to go back better because this this again this is a big win for conservatives but also the idea of explaining this so because it took a Democrat senator to kill this ultimately and it has been for all intensive purposes.

Go back better than, which include the new Deal IRS expansion of your $80 billion and 87000 New Ages Ct. after you that has been for now, killed legislatively by sitter mansion West Virginia so he so far, the lone Democrat to come out, but I think he's taken flak for some of these more junior students are Democrats who have a tough time facing reelection if they voted yes on this, but worth a second pressure for the party.

He's not as relied on the party pressure is more of his own entity in West Virginia and and he heard from his constituents.

They did want to vote for this they didn't like it.

He said he couldn't explain it to them by the administration was not explaining very well be the you to see the interviews. They cannot think no one could explain it very well but the heat is taken. Listen to ill Hanover that so how the progressives are treating sitter mansion for making up his own decision. He's easy EUS sitters one of 100 that he sent relied on on what the progressive Caucus in the U.S. House wants to do that.

Certainly not who he represents the city West Virginia take this note to buy 12 we all know that I will trust the excuses that he just won't I think are complete, and is really disheartening to see him saying that he has been trying to get there for any people afflicts French and because that's a complete lie, not what he was doing was going to West Virginia here for people say we don't want this, and he could not, he could be said.

He was not given anything to sell to the people and not anything to say this is what's good to do for your state in a positive way because they agreed to deal.

Here's the of evidence-based massive industries in the state. And again, people just didn't want to so I think again he's taking the flak for probably a handful sitters who agree with him that they do want this politically but you look at all the these babies. I think that when you look at the politics of all this is this is this is really hurting the Democrat party because what. However, the Supreme Court decided this mandate is because of them that there's a mandate itself River.

It is because of Joe but this up because the court because what you stated is because of what's happening in the executive branch. That's good. I think completely be reflected on the house.

It said it Democrats were up for reelection, which means you can have big surprise victories by Republicans. It states and add districts. Also, the sit level and at the regret at the house level usually would not be even tracked it might not even be tracked because it be too many and they do start mass losses because not only is this present he wasn't able to pass his big piece of legislation she wasn't able to deliver for Democrats or progressives and what that what it's been kind of clears it.

They can't they can't do it, even when they had the majority. Even with a gap at the house of the Senate's labeling the Senate still can't get it over the line that reads you got administration with the house which means that members their members of Congress were willing to die on the hill. Ultimately, for their pieces of legislation and that that that's his direct signal of kind of I believe it implicates the entire administration with the entire Democrat party with all these issues do we combat the great particular phone calls that questions about the mandate questions about Bill back better now dead, not because of sitter mansion. Take your calls 100 684 31 two that's 1-800-684-3110 fewer talkers on the air.

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People say about you know my employers good and I know that I can do this. The fines are putting you at a business meeting you talk and breathtaking starting at like 7.2 or $3000 per incident per person, up to $70,000 per incident. So yeah this can be list created what happens with the interlock. It's we gotta be clear on something though this is not a vaccine mandate.

Okay, it is a either a back if you're vaccinated. You don't have to be tested if you're not vaccinated you tested once a week and wear a mask and that's where this becomes a little bit more about the tug of the documentation that my documentation it puts the employer in a terrible spot they had create a database just like you said that everything I made a database of the employees are vaccinated employees who are employees who employees that are you if that definition changes you get to go back through that again. You know if if you if it requires a booster shot to technically be vaccinated. The employer employees that art have to be tested weekly. They bring a test in thereafter by themselves. I guess you set that that that what they that'll be someone has to sit with them for that 15 minutes watch them take the test and record the results of the test and they don't have a basis that creates a database so you will know for it. If you're in the current employment situation right now where it's been, you know, up to the employees to kind of self-governing and that will be done starting January 4, with penalties beginning February 9.

No companies can survive. And that's how these penalties are graded by OSHA in Inwood.

OSHA does things are good for employees protective in the workplace. That's the date the fines are crippling for a reason you have your time is in for like a semester something like that there.

There's reasons why OSHA exist for the American employee. This was to protect the police.

What this actually do is for you have employees that are going to have to be submitting a lot of more personal data to the company, which usually only the if you got insurance for your company, your insurance company handles that kind of very I get confidential health information about you. You have to tell your employer all right help. Here's the problem with all this. What we don't have a ready and unable to get into the medicine because I was very clear. I was vaccinated.

I bet my boosters and III believe that science everybody makes wrong decision, but I was I been very clear, however, it's been put reported. Right now, right this minute. Any that National Institutes of Health say that we could be seeing a million cases per day in the next several weeks. Million cases a day and we don't know if the vaccination is going to his or not we don't know the what what what the impact is when others break the cases in there, but the breaker cases appear backs and are much less severe.

But here's what we don't know what if you had a million cases. The statement million cases a day that numbers right. Putting the vaccine is upside you know what that does to the economy coming I wanted no wonder the market is reacting like this a million cases a day, Harry would be on the economic impact of this and that's where the Chinese government should have been held responsible for this. Absolutely. And so this whole atmosphere is somewhat confused because according to some reports that I've seen 97% of the current covert cases in the United States are tied to Delta.

What is unknown is the long-term impact of omicron which now accounts for perhaps 3% of the cases there is some anecdotal evidence suggesting that omicron is less severe. That is all bad Is a bit minimum or good.

You don't want any of okay you don't want don't want covert. Whatever version is asking if a million people a day or ask if these numbers are right. This is due to the economy. Well, it certainly could lead to some form of economic collapse, and perhaps more importantly, people might anticipate an economic collapse, which then becomes a self fulfilling prophesy that the inflation continues to rise on everything because you freaking out about toilet paper getting freaking out about we just go to the most basic level about the basic needs that you needed so you start hoarding out those items because you're being told every day by the media and so that's I think the government here is to cut through the whatever the politics of this, let's get to the reality and I think that's one of the problems is by continuing to have these figures. I felt you become divisive that we hear some new people who simply what we really need to expect because or else it's good to be out of brides control Richard on you to rotatably agreement why is the President, focusing his energy on holding the Chinese Congress party cattle for the cover-up virus. Here's why his entire families on the payroll of the Chinese Congress party right they became multi-hundred plus millionaires, his brother, his side him everybody associate with my attorneys, they, they, whatever the because he said without selling 80,000 500,000 on the paintings to Chinese investors yet. So here's the problem of the slaves go to any the impact of the thing that is Artie been very significant. A lot of people gloss level including me, including my own family. Here's the here's the problem. If these numbers are thrown out are right.

Okay. None of this is to make any difference. Okay, so we gotta get with George that we get some real answers. We took all the politics we put any politics in our brief. It's strictly a legal argument got all the politics at some of the bridge that were followed pretty polemic ours is not. It's just it's the legal stuff, but now this is a matter that figure of a million is right a million people getting sick a day that sickness that includes serious illness.

It's devastating. And the Chinese government gets away with it. With nothing that day and I think Jordan articulated that the Bidens are living off the fat of the land in China selling pictures having business relations and so forth.

And we have never one elder who had instituted in the Bible administration, the Chinese Communist Party with whom they have connections responsible for this because Pres. Trump exposed them. He said what it was with the China virus.

It is the China has become President from said it was immediately pooh-poohed in the end discredited by the Bible administration but this has been visited upon us by the Chinese and by the will and I think it was an intentional letting loose of the right virus, but to get the main point. The stock market is reacting. The economy is reacting. It's reacting now it's reacting badly. The stock market is following the stocks are thinking of volatility that I've not seen in a long time up 401 date down 300. The next day.

This is a devastating blow to the economy of the United States and it's a reason we have no leadership in the White House right from site. We support towards ACLJVC LJ.org would be all over this. You get highly all working through the weekend lately hours to finally get this report. It's their department.

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