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Celebrating Our Freedom Here and Fighting for Freedom Around the World.

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Stay for the ACLJ. Let's celebrate defend our freedoms live from Washington DC for your questions right now 800-684-3110. I don't believe you are celebrating the holidays.

Well, today is today still federal holiday and stores a happy fourth happy to state that everybody listing we put together broadcast for you today you are the car traveling you finally after Coburg you to see friends and family and and get together and celebrate America together, celebrate families and freedom in our independence and I hope you had so far already a great weekend and if you're not working today. Hope you're able to to again get that rest you need. And also that that to continue to celebrate. We put a great show. I think these are important because no one chemist will broadcast every day the week run Monday through Friday.

We have great shows great guest on the broadcast great contributors to our broadcast great team members. Of course at the ACLJason on this broadcast today we put together for you is something special to get you up to speed on what we've been talking about odd secular also first audience will be our Senior advisor for foreign policy and national security record now this is is somebody who is served as a former ambassador to Germany spent 10 years at the United Nations on behalf of United States Haley communications there. I he also of course serve as acting director of national intelligence, and now works with us at the ACLJ as that senior counseling part of the team, not just someone who is out as a guest of the broadcast.

He's been talking about the Iranian proxies inside Germany has bolos presence inside Germany. If you miss that broadcast were Rick was on live with us talking about. This is shocking, which are to be fighting out again in the next day with a broadcasted former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will be joining us to talk about religious persecution inside Nigeria. I have done even during Coburg. I've done those you interventions speaking out to you with all the persecution of Christians in Nigeria will be talking about that with six former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo like Rick also senior counsel to the ACLJ his title senior counsel for global affairs. He a former Secretary of State, former CIA director for Congressman West Point heart and Harvard Law grad part of the ACLJ. T. Then we took talking about.

I would skip ash a report on that from the ACLJ to the UN on white needs to condemn Hamas and it finally just to kind of put it all together. The ACLJ Frank baby will be joining is ACLJ senior counsel talk about that issue involving the second-grader who was had the Bible taken away a second grader who had their Bible taken away. We want that case, the teacher will be doing that again. The school district will be it in encouraging that pet action by teachers able, but we'll talk about it shocking that can happen to a second-grader in the United States of America and edit it so I get this kind of what the show does I think is a great wish you all the different kinds of work we do with the ACLJ all the different issues were involved in, and some of the new people we've added to our team. If you're not able to listen every day which no one really is.

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Protecting those for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge every dollar you donate $10 gift dollar gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ the work we simply would not occur without your generous take part in our matching challenge make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms online ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally pro-life publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the end what Obama care means to the pro-life of the many ways your membership is empowering the right to question your free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/bolded Iran on the world stage. There proxies it bolded as well. There's a report out out from one of the German state intelligence agencies about the growing number of Hezbollah supporters in Germany recruit out Natalie for acting director until just before ambassador Jerry rejoiced as a special counsel with that with that the ACLJ afforded affairs, national security, Rick.

I will write you this because we don't Germany has got this packet for you to eat. It was you said it was a good thing they they they box the EU and said were given designate has bolos. This terrorist organization are they able to but then I was reading the report and what they would then there's reporting of the report and said that it that allows them to kind of monitor them but does allow them to make the make the arrest. Are these are what's what's happening on the ground there that these individuals are are able to operate knowingly to the German intelligence, but there there really very concerning issue because as as you know, the European Union does not ban has a lot I'll write and that's a real problem when you think about has blocked and admitted no terrorist organization and yet the EU does flip-flops trying to figure out how not to offend the date the terrorists because they don't want to inflame it.

And so when I was ambassador to Germany was a real problem and I worked with a secretary Pompeo to make this a priority and to try to say to the Germans of the largest economy in Europe. Hezbollah is organizing here within Germany because you're the largest economy in all of Europe, and they're using really shady ways to go under the banking scheme they're doing fine companies are doing money laundering, and so we went on a year campaign to convince the Germans that they couldn't wait for the European Union. They finally took action. They now have a law that bans has a lot and they have the tools to arrest anyone organizing and supporting has a lot including financing of the stair and so this is a really big deal.

It's too bad the rest of Europe doesn't follow. So Rick, there's report right now that there's 180 has blue members that and supporters in the state within Germany. The lower Saxony. That's an increase of around 20 members just since 2019 and we know that there's this connection between clearly a connection between Iran and the Islamic Republic of Iran. The Revolutionary guard and Hezbollah are they picking Germany because of the size of the economy or is it a friendly territory to them and not getting picked up questions and the reality is that under the truck ministration is remember these years that were monitoring that you're talking about our night and 20 like a balloon when you squeeze it trump administration squeezed Iran and we we shut down their financing to the greatest extent that's ever been shut down. We really implemented worldwide sanctions. We told European companies. You would have to choose between doing business in Toronto doing business in the state. As we squeezed out balloon. What happened, it came out of the other sides and so you're exactly right Iran and has bought all of the those who financed terror tried to find safe haven and that meant places like Germany and throughout Europe which was our argument.

My argument as US ambassador.

My argument as director acting director of national intelligence. I brought the information not only to Germany not only to Brussels where we testified in front of a committee on the problems. I took it to the French national security advisor and they have this attitude throughout Europe that doesn't happen here and we had to show them the evidence and drag them to the evidence to say it is happening here is the you know maybe we got offices in Strasburg France. As you know why you worked very closely with our our team in Strasburg or European Center for Law and Justice so Amy I was thinking and riches said that just triggered my mind this is a European problem that is be arming Germany as a focal point, but it is a it's up pan-European problem and it's just as exactly what Rick said, it's just that you squeeze them and they just pop up other place I whack a mole. He had it meant another one comes up that's exactly correct J there is no containing them and the Europeans after, realized that it's not an American problem. Only it's not a German problem is not a friend.

Problem is a European problem throughout the European union and they need to come in for full realization of the fact that Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations are operating within Europe as they are in the Middle East and elsewhere wherever they can get a foothold. We of the European Center for Law and Justice in Strasburg are constantly vigilant about the things that are going on in relation to the activities of tears, organizations, and we bring this up, especially in France where we have a very unique presence at the European Court of human rights in Strasbourg, which is something I you know Rick is now trouble spring up or something. We want to get really keen on our operation out what they are asleep at the rate so that nuclear deals because everyone has bolos relationship and Europe's interest of getting the US back involved in this. How connected was that that the fact that wealthier to do business with Iran. These are kind of proxies of Iraq. If you do business with Iran, but I do business with your political party which sub country oats that we believe are terrorist organization US, Germany, acknowledges that ours is a terrorist organization that if we get back at that nuclear deal, which is been that way. It was so bad having ZZ tired and just hit it right on the mean. This is the whole problem of not squeezing the balloon at the same time right.

The idea is that if we all, the United Nations EU all of the Western alliance and we get our Arab allies to follow squeeze at the same time we can pop, but instead there is this idea by the bite administration that we have to engage with Iran in order to somehow convince them and my vision as I'm off her engagement. I think downtown did a great job at the gate engagement on North Korea. I tried a little bit of engagement in Venezuela on behalf of the trump administration. I think engagement is good, but you gotta benchmark it got to be able to come back two weeks later and say hey did this work order two months later and say get it working and if it doesn't, then you gotta do something else. The JCP away and and the implementation of it was not working. Iran was lying to us.

We know that and and so what we have to be of the do is say the Europeans engagement with the Ron does not work, especially this current Iranian regime. This is this again. I as he goes back to the idea is the world kinda refocuses rate there was a lot of this could move a lot of moving parts I goes on his last year with covert and people should reengage the world. Our international offices re-engaging you think that that the idea that the old is it education abbreviate like use a good sitting down with that the French officials and having to educate them about Hezbollah's danger do they just don't want to acknowledge the that we we saw the wave of tears of the hit Europe. It was there was there was a lot of terrorism happening on the street event with that here in our own country, but they were having a lot of a lot of the taxes give dangers to be on the streets for. Time why don't they want to acknowledge it is a great question say that we share the goal when when I spoke to our allies in Brussels or in Paris or in Berlin.

They all say they share the goals they want in a band as well as terrorist activities, but they don't believe that is happening in their banking system and so what it requires is a team of people to show them the evidence. When I organized that DNI was 18 and I can go into great detail of who's on the team and what countries are we having tea and hopefully Abraham discontinued operation, but we have a team that's collecting the information and regularly sharing it with our European allies getting our European allies to designate has bought as a terrorist organization helps squeeze the balloon. It must be done and I hope it's a priority. It certainly was in the trumpet and then you got, you know you know this for because of your work in Germany and Turkey not that far away and turkeys become a hotbed for Hamas. I mean, so you've got Hezbollah and Hamas literally fully functioning and operating out of Europe right now. And sadly, that is at the foot and responsibility of Erewhon. He has allowed her to to really dial back and in support, they been terrible towards Israel. The Turks and its consistent and we have really tough conversations because as you know, turkeys, a member of NATO and we have a treaty obligation with them. We need to have conversations with chart NATO membership say this to everybody.

This was his broadcast. Rick Grenell, former acting DNI and investor to Germany. We got Mike Pompeo coming up Sec. former Secretary of State and former director of the Central intelligence agency tell you your support of the American Center for Law and Justice folks, this is what you say were able to address these issues and also provide solutions to address them and take action. That's what we do at the ACLJ. Your support of the ACLJ is made all this possible. Rick, thanks for again great insight. Great analysis of a good week coming up my Pompeo that's right it always go to ACLJ.org ACLJ.org to piece up on on Nigeria as well specific to our submission there and every retirement those issues to had Nigeria in up on that list where we knew there were issues with religious liberty within the government. Now I take responsibility only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition life will show you how you are personally support publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to the pro-life discover many ways you membership of the children is empowering the right to question your free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom.

Protecting those who are persecuted for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge every dollar you donate $10 gift dollar gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ. The work we simply would not occur without your generous take part in our matching challenge to make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms online ACLJ sicko and I get to your phone calls 164 31 second failure to target those calls are your questions as well, but for restricted estate, my Pompeo, I see your counsel for global affairs joyous now on the broadcast say that we would focusing on. We told her this early the week, briefly, that what's happening we would cease. He was audit our reports were talking more about what we do with the UN and with their eyes, and I currently have filed a series of reports on Nigeria and Nigeria, though they did the way that Nigeria seen through the lens has changed to Sec. Pompeo when you were Secretary of State we do that there were a lot of issues with religious persecution in Nigeria wasn't necessarily done by the state was initially done by the government, but it was not being stopped by the government and it's a country that is basically divided between Christians and was a very, very, almost 50-50 disposed at power-sharing agreements based on religion, but you designated Nigeria as a country of particular concern went with the with the US does that. What does that mean what what what happened in Nigeria that changed with the work that they feel jaded or informative for our team at the State Department when we began to evaluate whether or not to designate them as a country of particular concern was controversial for a long time and have been viewed as farmers versus ranchers think that they religious element of what was taking place that wasn't brought to the floor, but I might be mistaken, work this issue hard great week. We don't do this lightly when we designate a country of the CPC. It's because there are great just violations of religious freedom here in Nigeria right, the largest economy. What biggest countries in Africa is fundamentally violent and the religious freedom of Christians, mostly in the Northwest. Frankly, broadly throughout the country and we wanted to use the full force of the United States. While the full focal force capacity of the US diplomatic pressure to convince Pres. Bihari and the leadership in nature that the right thing to do was to protect these religious minorities and the like from the threats with threats of rape, assault, torture, having their villages burned all the things that we have seen happen in Nigeria but it's it was something that concerned us greatly in ACLJ contribute to the data set that underlay the decision that I made things I saw was part of the rationale for placing Nigeria on this country concern watchlist was in distance" from report systematic ongoing egregious violations of religious freedom. The question that we not the United States reacted. You took action when at the rest of the world. How should they be reacting or that they have been on there `J unfortunately it's one of the things I hope to achieve was to demonstrate American resolve and leadership to begin to put pressure on European countries.

Countries throughout the region who would care who would probably care about religious freedom and protecting religious minorities took week we saw what happened to Christians and yet the Iraq that the risk is that if we don't begin to get this right in Nigeria will have the same kind of thing the rest of this time for my dentist today to something that approaches something with far more likelihood to lead to the come complete elimination of Christians in the region as we want to try and get out in front of it so we not only made the designation, but we devoted a lot of resources to working with the Nigerian government did Pres. Trump address this directly with the Nigerian leadership himself think it's unacceptable to have allow Christian minorities to be treated precisely as you described their treatment. J led to Dr. Amy, one of our colleagues hearsay accounts for the ACLJ has a question for you and part of it against focusing on the list, liberty, or should I know actually that urinary speaking at the for the archons. The ecumenical patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, which we represent globally and Andy is the main liaison in our global work for the Greek Orthodox church, but I need a question for Sec. Pompeo at the center of the left in this country as a very well-known and overt hostility toward religious liberty and with the amount of power that they now have over the Democratic Party are you concerned that this issue that is religious liberty will take a backseat in the Biden administration and not be in the forefront. I'm very concerned about it. Indeed, in the first hundred and 20 days out whatever learning to week we seen this already, leasing something they have almost a religious fervor about the green new deal take up residence over the work that we did on religious freedom was very much a part of who we were in the truck administration.

Every place we went. This was a priority for us. We we know that every human being is created in the image of God and so we wanted everybody to have a chance to practice their faith in the way they chose. We worked really hard at it and you can see, you can see on the left, whether it is there absence of willing to take any risk to help people around the world and try in our other places her in Nigeria protect these questions. These religious minorities are you can see it in the anti-Semitism with nasty sleeping inside of the party as well.

They think about religious freedom in a way that is fundamentally different in the way that I do and the Trump administration did and frankly it's a very different than the way our founders thought about religious freedom while Constitution protects that here at home and it demands an end, and this work demands that we work on it abroad was that The next question which is it's not in Nigeria in a vacuum, but it's the idea of saying that you were working at work was countries the man I don't get it perfect they might be far off. But at least making it a priority when were negotiating but did you know at the same time I sing to Pompeo. It if we continue to let you know China to carry out a genocide and and work with Iran as as a. The US and Iran in these these are these are no persecutors. They don't hide it that they brag about it. They they state they show it other than local television in the domestic audience shows this kind of level persecution and I does it signal to the Nigerians of the world that they have less resources. You don't have to make this a priority. Got to secure military cassettes always wife over that year was that at a certain point incident where is this where is the military where the security apparatus is to protect these people got it right things. One new point of beginning weight.

We tried to reward countries who place. It is a priority and who made progress in the story. Like most improved player if you will what we wanted everybody to be moving in the right direction toward increasing religious freedom in the country to Pompeo discreetly. We saw that these Russian attacks on which their piquant Russian criminals and the idea is is is will we see those attacks is it is it as directors try that to a sit sit where you know if it's a Chinese company. Everyone here the US recognizes that means Chinese government and they're starting to recognize that more in Russia may be these criminal elements, but from what you sent Secretary of State and his former CIA director he really think separate those out the scope of what taking place.

There is absolutely happening with the acquiescence of the Russian government what we should let the Russian government get off the hook by saying it is just some random criminal some plugs have a responsibility to prevent this from happening.

These are attacks on the United States.

Russian government should be held accountable for what's being placed upon our country.

This is serious business that will impact our economy could be loss of life at some point. Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

Also, former director of the CIA and senior counsel for global affairs for the ACLJ thank you for your comments and for your work in your efforts. And thanks for being a colleague is making a huge difference for us at the ACLJ thanks Mike-back I get if you wanted to your questions and to read for these issues that that again you might not admits that focused on as much because of what's happened domestically here, one 800 684 30 wanted to get in on the conversation at the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be now $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 can make a difference in the world who knew protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you and your family. Give a gift today online LJ live from Washington DC as a person. You know, so that whatever person reiterated with Sec. primary and the work of ACLJ and either with but it's been a work we been doing for decades now, but that that the fact that you are at former Secretary of State Tudjman and his time as Secretary of State have the ACLJ reporting on these issues which we talk about CC early the very extensive reports. We do all these countries, what issues they're facing.

Is it that you know it's not that all these countries are perfect in their government to provide, but are they do what they should for religious liberty protected to keep the to keep with the promises they make it out of there Constitution to their own people and that's informing State Department decisions will before I will tell you what this is before us before Sec. Pompeo says of the Obama administration we were doing work before South Sudan became independent country. We were there we did work with that that government as they were moving towards have for their own government and after we were there got back got a call from the State Department out of the blue because that special representative. The sets for two S. Sudan, who happened to be also so that his deputy was a law professor by the Georgetown wanted to do it while I was doing that wanted to know what we saw what you did basically debriefing yet because we were getting more access than the US government at the time because we didn't have to worry about who was this what were they associate with.

We could just go in and have meetings as a religious liberty group and is a and is it is a legal organization because and also because our designation at the UN to those countries and so eight.

This unit is unity going on time, yet we do bring out were able to marshal our resources Andy into get on a global scale information that we get back to the government or or policy statements that really you have to be on the ground to get well, that's one of the advantages that we have because we have offices J you know when you've set on this program. We have offices worldwide in Africa.

We have offices in Asia. We have offices in Jerusalem and Strasbourg. We have a presence in the United States, which is overwhelming and and very laudable, and we are able to dig up information and to find resources and things that we can then transmit to the governments of these different countries and the United States government that allows them then to take the action we only have this ability because we are spread so wide and so far in our work, and I remember when you got that call on them when you just triggered my memory on the South Sudan situation were very involved in their drafting their constitutions and try to keep the government stable and in our office in Israel was assisting on that when I mean that's how this works out our office in Jerusalem is working towards NRDC are present in our DC office and they were in South Sudan and then a law professor of Georgia and Georgetown happen to be, you know, somehow connected all this. Now I say that because because of the reach of the organization. We are able to craft policy and Harry at the end of the day as we get into this discussion coming up next was to bash policy is paramount on these matters.

Absolutely. And in addition to policy vision matters and we also know that elections matter. So while Rome burns, while the border crisis mounts because of the ineptitude of the Biden administration. While Christians are being held captive in Nigeria Asia and elsewhere. The ACLJ has remained vigilant in our ability to do so depends heavily on our listeners and donors. There's no question that none of the seven I'm just thinking we just had the podcast of me think about the person about his broadcasts we had on the former acting director of national intelligence and ambassador to Germany when the topic was Germany who happens to be a special advisor, senior advisor, senior counsel to the ACLJ for national security and international and then follow that up with our special senior counsel, global affairs, Mike Pompeo, who happened to be the former Secretary of State and Dir. of the Central intelligence agency, so let me tell you none of this happens. None of it without you Matt for your support of the ACLJ is so critical. I want to personally, I want to say is thank you on behalf of all of us were able to continue to expand our reach to get to the next level and it.

That is because of all of you. We write back the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those who are persecuted for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that.

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Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn, called mission life will show you how you are personally support publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to the pro-life discover many ways your membership is empowering the right question for economy mission life today online ACL data/what we are doing United Nations to get you back up to speed, because it's only domestic issues dominating the news and for good reason.

United States and write about but as we begin to kind of you to Arnett.

The next phase of the Americas reopening, even in the bluest of blue states is is is is almost there. I was reopening. We wanted you back educated on what is going on internationally and won't do work that the ACLJ does through our international affiliates organizations but also directly at the United Nations in one of those reports we met you weaving into a lot of detail on that day was a a a specific request to the UN to condemn Hamas and the Palestinian Authority for their many violations of international, who writes this may be at the UN, the most uphill of uphill task, but you know if you would've told someone that let's add 666 years ago that the US was to put their embassy in Jerusalem people.

No one would believe it. I mean even because of that the entrenched ideology did met if you had a Republican President or Democrat President because you do the advisor to become over and say exactly what John Kerry said, which is that if you do this whether you'd like to do it or not you're going to cause the world to blow up. You're going to cause 1/3 world war and the passive ministry said no were not in fact we connect to move things forward. So you got to always say it could be an uphill battle with you and it is with it comes the pastoral authority Hamas, but it doesn't mean that there will ever be a change or finally a realization just like Rick was talk about Germany and Hezbollah.

Ultimately, they saw the light and said we can't keep allowing this France started to see the light.

We can keep allowing this. This is another this. I think Thomas is now to start falling under the idea of it of almost because it is becoming down it a lot a proxy for Iran within our proxy for Aranda joining us now is get back to senior counsel for the ACLJ and in charge of our law of armed conflict entering military law issues and international issues. You were the primary architects Of a report that we have issued to the United Nations. In fact, I am holding it in my hands right now. This was a submission written statement submitted by the European Center for Law and Justice requesting that the UN condemn Hamas and the Palestinian Authority for their many violations of international human rights. Lots also interesting that at the same time that we prepared and filed this document.

There are reports coming out of even the Jerusalem Post, where they're talking about and the Wall Street Journal that in this last conflict Gaza businesses which, of course, because hate Hamas uses God's love Gaza businesses as a basis to place the for author bombs and rockets that they are even these are the leaders of business in the Gaza Strip, not destroy Hamas supporters. In fact, support causes building was bombed by the Israelis because it was use of the rocket deployment place in 2014 and then was raised again in 2021, and it was destroying trees rebuilt the twice what is Hamas constantly violating international law. What was the purpose of the submission here and point out to the human rights Council that it is not the Israelis were violating international law and is not the Israelis were in buyer in violation of human rights law. It is in fact the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, primarily, although not solely amend the button and the policy authority also violate human rights of Palestinians, but we are writing because Israel is constantly under attack UN human rights Council has one permanent country on his agenda and that's Israel, despite the fact that the Syrians appealed 500,000 people. The North Koreans all these other countries.

The Chinese are involved in genocide against the leaders, but it Israel that's always the one is being attacked so we went back to say if you look at the evidence, every rocket fired from the Gaza Strip violated the law of armed conflict because it was fired in the not knowing where was going to land the Israelis responded and they responded with targeted responses that military targets and therefore they did everything they could to be in compliance with the law of armed conflict and with human rights law.

It's no wonder that there are people in the Gaza Strip finally had enough of being used as pawns by Hamas every time they want to make a statement against Israel. So it's interesting all of this is that he's in this example, this gentleman's business. So Hamas, this is according to the Guinness command Wall Street Journal to slather before this Hamas and and Mr. Sim are now confronting the political Harry and economic fallout of repeated clashes with Israel which of setback development in the Gaza Strip, home to more than 2 million Palestinians, half of whom live below the poverty line, according to the United Nations, the economic consequence of these engagements. These military flareups are very significant for the people and for the region, absolutely. They are absolutely massive. I also would submit that the leaders of Hamas really don't care so long as they remain in power and so long as they have access to international funds to fuel additional violence, long-term, and to increase the size of their own bank account. Sadly, the Biden administration has fallen into this trap because it is essentially committed to funding the Palestinians, notwithstanding their commitment to violence. Keep in mind that Hamas is targeting citizens in Israel. But it's also targeting its own citizens. It sends rockets indiscriminately into Israel, and it expects a return from the Israeli government which destroys businesses in Gaza and this destroys the economy. This means, sadly, that the people in Gaza become even more dependent on the leadership of Hamas because then Hamas doles out humanitarian assistance and basically is seen as a benefactor to people that they have been committed to destroying we are, of course, we will office in Jerusalem is very active with Laura's government affairs people. What's interesting is Egyptian officials have visited both Gaza and Israel in the last several days of formulating a rebuilding plan rebuilding plan and that money could not go to Hamas and that's the difficult part here because what Thomas then does is they don't get directly, they tax these businesses to get that money indirectly. I.

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Hamas is going to acquire the money one way or another and one of the course of the main funders of Hamas. Let's not forget his Iran. They boasted about that Hamas did in the recent attacks on Israel that took place from Gaza about the resources coming from Hamas. Now the United States is not a fermenter around that is now the negotiated United States is negotiating to resurrect his nuclear deal and to give the Iranians more money would stop and then take give Hamas so that Hamas can then find operations against Israel. So it's a vicious cycle that the Biden administration is really facilitating and helping skip looking at all of this in the report you put together. If you were just sum it up, of the international law violations here in the scope of this how big of an issue is this.

Well, huge issue, every rocket fired fired over 4000 rockets, every rocket was an individual war crime.

So when the Israelis have the right to defend themselves when they came in they had do they use precision munitions trying to target exactly what the military target was that because the Hamas places their forces in the middle of civilian communities. That in itself is another war crime, but because they do that when you go after a legitimate war objective and civilians are inadvertently killed. That's not a war crime, but that's a propaganda victory for Hamas so Hamas attacks Israel. Israel responds using munitions trying to minimize casualties, but every casualty that is used by Hamas and its supporters around the world to condemn Israel is killing children and willy-nilly, and so forth. So I it's serious. In that sense and I think we also need to recognize that even the rockets acquired about 4000 rockets and about 10% of those never made all the Gaza Strip, so they fell back and kill their own people.

And yet Israel is one thing blame for those experiences. Rockets are coming to get the help people understand what that feels like this is very quick when it happens this week.

They have a lot more arrived that they were the because of their relationship with Iran. And so when you see these conflicts. Exes would soon once every decade that they really go all out with what they've got to basically unload their arsenals that they've got that they haven't been taken out because is a constant effort by Israel.

It's not like Israel is not God aircraft. Whether it's helicopters or jets over Gaza all the time taking on a munitions factories at the same time, there is been a significant change in the ability of Hamas to fire more sophisticated even though they're not did not fit out eight and since Abingdon that skip his time at the was a human rights violation a way that those are not specifically targeted military installation.

They are just fired off, but that the rockets are getting longer-range they were hitting Tel Aviv.

They were just hitting the border towns were just to the border cities anything that that changes the mindset of the people to certain it's a different rocket would save me five or Mexico to Texas saying Mexico to to Chicago I been so that that that's where the changes bid their their sophistication because of the Iranian support 1-800-684-3110). Only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

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I give her she's in a that reading level already and it sometimes other kids and they would listen daily talk to her about it. What she really so is this a constitutional crisis. What was the school she was actually told her this is a second grader. Think about that.

They took her Bible teacher took her Bible and told her quote you just can't be doing that Frank may didn't see her cancel the ACLJ. Legal team Gabrielle's family because they contact us at the ACLJ ACLJ that are/help weed out there. The legal services don't cost you anything to assist you in these matters. We gotta contact us so we know what happened. This was a brave second-grader and family who said you know what work if were to stand up and fight, that's who it takes to make sure that the laws are in place to protect people like Gabrielle and it kids like her are followed by the school so Africa made it sure is now on the air. Hey Frank, I think should be with us a prayer limit. Let me ask you this. Okay, so what were looking at this and say this is 2021. Okay it's 20, 21, we've been arguing his case on a date is frankly been arguing these cases.

Literally 40 years were getting close to the 35 and for your anniversaries on some of these cases, what possibly possess the school district to do this to this little girl made contact with Michael back in time again and anomaly even when you and I were even younger. Before we were even the law school.

The anchor case that the meet the legal standard here for students in elementary schools and high school and yet the ignorance is still out there and even malicious.

In this case. These school officials simply didn't know the law and so that's why you basically thought our role here is educating the educators when we did maybe try to make a silly distinction about what she can read it outside but you can't read it if recess is inside because there could be some sort of a captive audience and we make clear that we did not get this limited knowing a complaint. None of the study is this is what happens. No complaints by anybody know if they did observe. Sometimes it was somebody that walked by a 10 Commandments monument a sale. I've seen it. Now I'm upset that here and that you know heckler's veto in play here. Just and sort of an unarticulated fear by the teachers and the principal that based on this ACLU, the interpretation of separatist separation of church and state, battling for decades that and we educated and after we didn't send a letter. We wouldn't even have to threaten this case, we just that you know your you must stop and think you really don't know much about this area. Here's what the law said you've got to show not just your weird unarticulated fear that some kid or some parent my complaint shows some substantial disruption nightly spread of that school process so wasn't here not even hinted at here and Chile back down. So it's important understand the reason I want to highlight this will highlight another case in the second about the broadcast focus on this one for the segment because in this culture that were now in all that we've had and I may go through those in the minute we had great success on these cases.

I mean, we had hundreds of these cases, but we had a series of cases Frank at the Supreme Court. I think of Americans that the Bible club case equal access case where we won that an eight to one in the Supreme Court said students don't shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech. The establishment clause doesn't prohibit students from reading the Bible's singing songs that have religious theme. If you know anything about the Pledge of Allegiance case where Justice O'Connor Road would be ironic indeed.

If a nation founded by religious refugees would sever the ties that bind to that history so we had a series of cases a lamp chapel where again they said you know this is heckler's veto the religious veto at Scilly approximately up famously in that case said the test that this report was using like with like a ghoul in a late-night horror show comprising it set up, put a stake in its heart is a monster and it still come back up and that's what Jordan you said your concern that's about to happen again in the local culture that when I went to freight they forget to be experiencing this one more time.

Another that the sales that we have to go fully litigated that could be potentially down the road but I don't see the current make of the Supreme Court being an issue there with these cases, but that we might start have to deal with this again with with teachers especially and school administrators who are, even if they are not bad actors subpar summer just scared for their jobs and everything now that's deviated all controversially know you have to get out the Hansa kids and so you know II wonder Frank a fortress he had about the next session. Kids are going to school. Default looks like everything he returned normally for him see a wave of these very possible Jordan about a backsliding going on here that well we have a conservative way for long time and now we get. Maybe we'll going the other direction, so maybe all of the things that the conservatives accomplished in the low back a little bit and that's why we're here to make sure that doesn't happen and people need to know that in addition to all of the other work. The ACLJ does worldwide. All over the place in many different areas. This is still bread-and-butter for us that says that your dad knows he was litigating an argument Supreme Court while when you were probably not even aware of it but I do think it what one thing they were watching for now is this idea that all of this could come back every bit the idea that the especially aggressive school administrators and we were dealing with a lot of issues in our schools right now.

Once it been trained in the last 10 years that it is I do you think about these like that when a tirade of the critical race all those things are coming up. How do we teach this to what curriculum and etiquette brings a Bible to school. I can see that you have issues in her especially when there when they are pre-high school. We probably need to do Frank. We haven't done this in a decade and 1/2 may probably 20 years. We used to send the F you remember this to every school district in the country at the beginning of the year and say here's what the lawyers students can have events like see what the pole students are allowed to have voluntary student initiated student led Bible club.

The establishment clause doesn't allow government to treat the religious speaker differently than any other person, and we sent these letters out that had basically here's what and even under Bill Clinton's presidency.

They had a list of things you could do in the schools were part of putting that together. I think it's probably with everything going on right now and with this the culture that were now living in Frank that maybe it's time to reeducate the school to just the beginning. Sure you do by email. Now we send it to every general counsel of every school board in the United States, probably a really good idea because I think you're right. I think that with time shifting winds, culturally and politically. People have lost sight of the victories that we gained your right and we can even mention the Clinton department education guidelines which essentially ran almost as almost like the letters that we were sending to school officials and maybe were were inspired to some extent by the letters we were setting, but were very clear.

The Clinton administration, but I do think there is a danger in the current climate of backsliding to a time that existed before those accomplishments were achieved and we just have to be vigilant with verbiage is vigilant about staff working on a letter for back-to-school mansard. It's already June be here before you know some schools go back in August and some of these cases, the frequent use language like this establishment clause doesn't license government to treat religious people, religious practices, is if they're subversive to the American Republic and subject to unique disabilities. But that's exactly what they did to the second-grader they treated her differently than they would treat anybody else that was reading a book during recess Frank had been reading the cat the cat but how other kids, but actually again, have a great day everybody stayed to stay engaged ACLJ.4 is ACLJ not talking the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be managed $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 could make a difference in the world protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms are most important to you and your family. Give a gift today online LJ


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