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Lab Leak Theory: What Did Fauci Know and When?

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June 7, 2021 1:00 pm

Lab Leak Theory: What Did Fauci Know and When?

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June 7, 2021 1:00 pm

As evidence for the lab theory grows, we ask the question: what did Dr. Fauci and the National Institute of Health (NIH) know and when did they know it? The ACLJ already has a FOIA request demanding information on what the NIH knew regarding COVID-19's origins. As thousands of Dr. Fauci's emails were released last week, we spent hours going through it to find the most relevant information. Jay, Jordan, and the rest of the Sekulow team - including ACLJ Senior Advisor for National Security and Foreign Policy Ric Grenell - discuss the latest on this topic and how the ACLJ is taking action to get to the bottom of this developing story.

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Secular all the stuff out to you. We took our time going through this because of this news breaking last week it was thousands upon thousands of emails you will figure out what's the most relevant for the audience and the discussion that we are having today of the broadcast record will be joining us as well, but it takes you back to this year.

We do all this point would eventually have a foil on this specific issue to the NIH. We will likely have to file a lawsuit as part of this 40 someone. These news agencies but speed which is not exactly the most prestigious of any mostly it's a bunch of quizzes for teenage girls to get they got they that they follow FOIA so to the Washington Post. I guess it is somewhat more respected as a large journalist at you when they have the longest no indication they had to go to court to give thousands of emails during the pandemic. While it's still ongoing from a current government official about something security route revelation also did this to recruit out the got his emails without without court order and the ball in Rick state that I think I gave them like next to no notice and just sent them out there said here. They are the Greco National to the bat.

I think that this reeks of Washington DC. What happened is Washington has no news. Okay Joe mansion, which retirement the second half hour till their big voting. The next voting bill. This HR one if if he holds true to what he wrote in his op-ed for the newspaper in West Virginia to his constituents if he held true to that and the fact that he's knocking at overdrive the filibuster. This again Washington is the Trump derangement syndrome goes is coming to a just got done but it's it's kinda calming down there looking for okay with the truth about covert. If none of this, none of these theories about the bad yet make sense so suddenly. Now Washington DC is made fell to the bad guy basically wrote a script that widely admitted he's trying to go on an offensive campaign and saying well you know which is in the beginning were just trying to figure this out. What's interesting is Jonathan Carlon. ABC said well you know John Donald Trump and he may have been right, that this in fact was intentionally created in a lab and in China, but he was giving her so much other nonsense.

We we just can't believe it until now. I guess he was right to kill them to have to admit that admit that Donald Trump is right on anything.

Must've been something that ABC News had to take swallow like a rock. I mean there the way the President was right.

He was right on what he said but now that liberal democratic media is having to admit that and I know that it's killing object is no doubt about the question is here. What is this mean it's really folks we need to concentrate on Jordan, is this is a national security issue is not pointing fingers on should you wear a mask or not wear a mask. Those were in there but you know what that's inconsequential in the scheme of things. What's been curious one of the national security geopolitically to ramifications on this Rick Grenell or Senior advisor on those issues will be joining us later in the market.

That's right. And in the back and forth.

The good, the dismissal outright that China could have had anything to do with this Interplay when our own President was telling us it in they did and the Intel pointing that way, it appears but yet there was a decision and it looks like I'll just read this quickly.

From this was from Vanity Fair to one state department meetings official seeking to demand transparency for the Chinese government say they were told by colleagues not to explore the Wuhan Institute of Ryle neurology's data function. Research because it may bring unwelcome attention to US government funding of so it's a sober we funding the creation of covert, 19 in the Wuhan lab. That is another question now because this is coming from Vanity Fair got Washington Post Vanity Fair, but these were the ones were going after Pres. most a present from most of his four years saying that this was possibly created intentionally at a lab in the Wuhan chart which apparently looks like the evidence that's worth pointing and now they're doing their apologies, but little too late. Yeah, exactly. And of course all the success in the future as well because we know that the house and how the economy will be right back challenges facing Americans for substantial time in our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ on the front lines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress to get in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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A lot of this focusing in on there is an email this this dates back to again a February 1 and in the set that up to papery first is when we first started getting word that this was a serious issue that could have big implication with just a month later that the country was shut them up. Weeks later, so that's too fancy from someone who works with outside of this in the. The scientific world. It's an article I we have article right here. This was minding the coat coronavirus genomes recluse the outbreaks origins and I get it was in science magazine and this is a pretty thorough article for scientists by scientists and and in the email this scientist to anti-fat checks you sent on January 31 and uses people sending emails at 1030 at night on New Year's Eve. Got it I got done using January 31. But you unwinding I say what we were doing the night of January 31, 2020 yard for the next day of the basement so they knew this was coming there sending emails at 1030 at night but here's was clear this email hi Tony, and then you go down so their time and how they looked at it, we so one has to look really closely at all the sequences to see that some of the features potentially look engineer.

What if they were engineered. Guess what that means they didn't come from a bad to human. They go on further. I should mention that after discussions earlier today and any mentions a number of a scientist all I guess that found she would know, Eddie, Bob and Mike so very casually written and myself all think that the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory i.e. this did not jump from animal to animal. This had to be created by man, this is not part of the, the evolution of animals taking this to a level where it developed to such a high potency. They could then transfer this to humans at the big portion of this isn't that hard. 2020. What would need to be understood here is that one of the implications of this again looking at it geopolitically and go to any person.

I have a political question for Jordan, and I want to go to Andy on this because you know here you've got emails and are actually coming out in these emails are saying very clearly that it's pointing towards. This is a year and almost 1/2 ago that this was intentionally created by a lab which the United States was helping to fund yet the talking point was it was created in a wet market in China from a bat transmission to a human. Well, this idea of the bat transmission. Human I think we can safely put that aside, there is nothing that points to this Dracula like transmission from Bob Bella go see to a human being and we need to set that aside once and for all.

I think that the evidence is going to show although and I follow the evidence on this and we need to investigate it further completely and entirely, but the evidence is going to show that this will definitely engineered by a lab in the where one and virology Institute probably is no question about it, funded by the United States which makes it doubly abhorrent to me and that it was transmitted by the Chinese, either through negligence or, in my view intentionality to their own population. Regardless of what was going to happen to their own population.

Dr. Faucher, notwithstanding saying they wouldn't do this to their own population. Nonsense of course they would have no scruples with respect to that, and then ultimately to the entire world we've sent out plan a FOIA request to in this particular case it's to the National Institutes of Health, the national Institute of allergy and infectious diseases and the director of information management office and what we sought is records pertaining to communications knowledge and efforts. The surrounding the breaking story that the Biden administration shut down froze the late pause or repurpose an investigation into the origins of the cobra 19 outbreaks initiated by previous administrations. Anthony pouches admission to Congress of US funds benefiting Wuhan Institute of virology and the OD and I acknowledge him in actions and investigations of the origin of covert, 19 again were focusing on not who had a master who did not have a masking whether he knew we shouldn't of the mass were helpful or not helpful put that all aside, I'm looking at the political ramifications in the geopolitical ramifications thank you from the very beginning. J we've been focused on what the federal government the house and the Senate.

Quite frankly should've been focused on back in January 2020. We want to know the truth and we want to know it for two reasons J number one if the Chinese were responsible for this, as it increasingly looks like they were. They need to be held to account. But maybe even more important in that J, the reason we've issued this FOIA is to make sure that this never happens again. Or at least that the United States does everything within our power to make sure that those responsible we don't partner with them in the future so that there's not another pandemic going forward. J. One of the very specific things that were asking for in this way is why did this administration suspended the investigation started by Sec. Pompeo to investigate this lab. Lake we all know now that it is the most likely scenario and quite frankly anybody that looked at it seriously knew that it was a very high probability from the beginning.

The last administration was looking into it. J we want to know why this administration suspended it because quite frankly, even if it ended up not to be the case, not investigating it to conclusion. That is totally irresponsible like it changes the way in which we engaged Jordan in on an international level. Here, and it's upsetting to I think the doctor fancies to be fired from these emails needs to be his career should be heavily tarnished, and whatever other population control measures, you would love to implement around the world. Maybe they won't they won't be because he was close of the Gates foundation, which is all about how many children they can abort the poor around the world because the population control group because I guess of the building is only one throw for themselves. The idea though, is this, he said, tapping on Fox and friends. April 2020. This is his direct quote. It boggles my mind how would we have so many diseases that emanate out of the usual human animal interface that we don't to shut it down. I don't know what else has to happen to get us to appreciate that is that's what were going through right now there is no that he him. He says right there. We are going through human animal interface and this is a direct result of that ain't so indicated, this is bats infecting humans and in these wet markets in China and I get those have been linked before. Sen. Rubio talked about this year, there's been some hours there's been murders and they were able to find animal origin within a few months so if you can't find the animal origin in over a year.

Suddenly what people were talking about a year ago. That was just dismissed outright is conspiratorial as it was anti-Asian you know broadly to to suggest that there is possibly any at a minimum, and in a best case scenario. Accidentally we know it is saying that because you could prove through anything in this if it was intentional that is not that is not what that would be a step that again. Intel would have to dealer them and verify networkers that would be an act of war. What we know is that they did that. He's individual sprints is that that the scientist who was quoted in that piece by the way, who emailed Dr. Faucher about the expectations that it's inconsistent with the evolutionary theory. It looks engineered. He's now taking that his twitter account so these these people are being inundated with those who still do have the Trump derangement syndrome right. How dare you how dare you question that you know this. Dr. Faucher known as no one had ever heard of before and I think that there was this idea with a new blog up from Allie Holston for Mark quite art is not gets up@8j.org about what effect you noted with this idea that the American people at the beginning of his they wanted to trust someone who came not from politics medically came from science and medicine came the NIH a place you that shouldn't be playing partisan politics. Yet, and that no I cannot they get everything right and perfect. But if they made a definitive statement we could take it and then the trust but we all start realizing these definitive statements did makes it started out with things like mass not working working by think they I think that they probably did work for a lot of situations you could see there was no flu in America and soap, but you know it was definitive all the time and that was always his problem, always definitive, but when I'm concerned about working into the bottomless not allowing litigation from the other just mocking anybody else but Andy.

Here's what were doing weren't in discussion, which will end up in court with the current administration to find out why they shut down these investigations. That is a critical thing that I want to know, to doing that and we're going to get to the bottom of a J but you know Sec. Pompeo started an investigation as to what was going on in the will hand lab in our funding of it and so forth. And suddenly the body administration cut that out and suspends it.

Why was there to hide. Want to know what the facts are why you not wanting to know what and what exactly went on in China with respect to this virus. What is the reason for this, what is behind it. One of the political implications of it. Why is Joe Biden hiding it wises administration being elusive. These are things that we want to find out I will be joining us in the excitement of the broadcast year we we first talked to Rick about this with you is just starting to shift this idea with this turn is shifted. Now it's full-blown to take immediate their their apology tour, they ought to give their policies at some time on TV. I'm sorry that we call Donald Trump and his supporters are liars for suggesting the possibility had to the present United States is receiving the highest level of Intel that Jonathan Carl would never ever receive is our life.

The possibly said hey this maven, a lab leak being nice. The Chinese calling it lab leak and not lab intentional negligence yeah I be or or you know that bad actors the clinic. I don't know that when you rewrite only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable and voiced his concern. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life.

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Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ learning more and more as the Tigers I wanted to have time with our team to to go through these emails from that if he felt she were released at a record. Now I see your visor joyous now as well Rick, what are things you not I love about these emails. Zero but she puts in a FOIA request and in a year emails without these emails we we put in requests were in court for authority. If but you know it.

In these emails. What we see is that there was definitely not the certainty that we were all being told, and that now that the Trump derangement syndrome is I guess it's starting to come down a little in Washington DC a cooling off a little in Washington DC and in the sciences starting to catch up to reality and the reality now is it you basically see all the Sunday shows and the Washington reporters on an apology tour. We should've told you that Donald Trump was lying about this this idea again that you know we first talked about it was because it was a big shift that they were even considering it. Now it's the leading theory Rick that this was lab created and that died to Dr. fatuous learning about this from his colleagues before this was even declared a pandemic in the United States will I keep but if you go back to ENI website April 30, 2020. There is a statement from the entire intelligence community and intelligence community wide statement is extremely rare and in that statement we make very clear that this started in China and it's either in the lab on the wet markets and we brief reporters to say the lab leak is the leading hypothesis.

This is where our intelligence community is going. This is what they are investigating and since then of course the people in Washington who just protect the rolling parting the Democrats have completely changed their children and yet I can attest to the fact we told Washington Post reporter CNN reporter's New York Times reporters on this exact lab late leak theory and they ignored it because it didn't fit into their politics at the time with one of things and I'm concerned about is I don't want to get into you know who you should wear a mask and who should not wear a mask, was that algae right on the master not right on the mask when I want to focus in on is one of the geopolitical ramifications for all of this. If in fact the Chinese government, which is what the Wuhan lab is did intentionally create this now they will say they were intentionally creating a level never met.

They intentionally created the bit the big medical justifications, possibly, that they may perform one of the geopolitical ramifications when they never have admitted what they actually have done here. Pandemic comes to mind is Donald Trump throws out the World Health Organization money the US money going to WHO and he did that because the evidence shows that they were in bed with China that they were not willing to to be top five Chinese researchers on the Chinese policy positions and one area that we were trying to make progress and to get other countries to freeze out the WHO to make substantive changes to the international body and we were onto something and we were making some progress with the Europeans until the Democrats completely tried to make this a partisan issue and date defendant the WHO and now the Biden administration has returned the money there so at a global scale, we, the United States are struggling with our credibility of whether or not will allow the Chinese to take over UN agencies or not. The world knows that the Chinese in control of the WHO are a dangerous path we were making progress on it but we had to dial that back. I don't think were gonna be able to be successful internationally until we recognize that the international organization designed to protect us from global pandemics is completely controlled by the people pushing pandemic like I think you're right. You know I remember back when you were in office and I was representing that point the President I remember that this whole issue as it was maturing over the summer months that we as we got to April and May. We were in, and that the President clearly and he said it publicly was concerned that this virus was created by the Chinese commons party that there should've been ramifications for this or should the cost of this economically and he talked about this in speech he gave the other day about sanctions and end tariffs and other things that politically could been leveraged to have the Chinese pay a penalty for this. My great fear here is Rick is that where you find all of this out and nothing is going to happen, nothing will change and we will still give the money at the moment has passed. I think Jay is because when we had the world's attention because at this.

That's the time to act in too many times in MD and the international community will will pot or the Chinese or the Russians or some other bad actor will be moved to like it or let's say a three month report that study this for three months. They want to push it down. They want to make time go by, because as time goes by the international community loses its fervor and its unity in doing something so I fear the same thing that we might have missed it. However, the Democrats have a chance to lead the world. Imagine that the Democratic Party would just completely changed now and say we see the evidence we see that the Chinese not only were responsible for this, but what they did to the rest of the world in hiding that the cover-up is really the economic devastation that we need to be focused on you because again I go back to so to play the soundbite from from Dr. Faucher because I get this was back in that we got one. April 17 and then because right into one. On May 4. Back in 2020, so more than a year ago. Take a listen. Mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with the jump of the species of animal to this not have been artificially or deliberately manipulate the way the mutations have naturally evolved and that right there. Rick is the serious problem is that's when everybody so present. Trump is a liar demonstration liar of the people out there the administration saying that this is trying to show you anything wrong the Chinese absolutely could have done to zero maybe there's promise with the how they handle these wet markets, but it's not every he said this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated now are talking about get it. But in his emails. In 2020. He's talking about how we may have funded gain of function research, which is artificially or deliberately manipulating a virus. You look there's so much evidence that shows the cover-up that the Chinese were doing or let's also be clear that Chinese not allowing there to be flights internally from Wuhan out to the rest of China, but allowing international flights. Now they knew exactly the problem. They shut down Wuhan.

They shut down areas where they could and they played fantastic cover-up because they didn't want the rest of the world to somehow beat up on them and then they went into an aggressive by voice when they used the PPE date controlled with the with the world. The world needed PPE Chinese knew it and they used it against rest of right folks are great always have recruit. Now we are sitting in power coming up next, go to ACLJ.org new blog what you found. She know and when a lot of overtime today is up there in ACLJI.org is always referred you support the work of the Americas replied festus@aclj.org again your work. Your support financially. If I were able to continue to engage these issues get real insight on these issues not stuck conspiracy theories talk facts, talk information to the research with the time in that we provide you the best information possible to write back. Second four decades of ACLJ is been on the frontline protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side.

If you're already a member thinking. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC and secular secularists question either give us information that you would hundred 684 31 to the 2000 684-3110 so we are talking about. Of course we wanted have time to go through the emails without that Dr. Faucher released a freedom of information act request. Interesting enough, one of the first emails received go back to a January 31, 2020 was from a scientist friend of Dr. Faucher's a Christian Anderson the date. Again, it's very important for people to understand the timing of January 2020 right in the beginning before there's a pandemic declared rifle knew that there was something COBIT had reached the United States at a smaller scale did know there was going to be and what we did not not remember any.

This is the same people who advise the President will just take a couple weeks right so the fact that they acted like they knew what was going on was absurd to make these definitive statements, and we just play for this and that.

The last segment with Rick. This is absolutely 100% could not have been artificially deliberately manipulated. It could have been lab created me that that's Dr. Faucher back in May 2020 begin in January 2020. He's getting reports into him from his colleagues in the scientific community, saying you look at the sequences here and defeat the features look engineered that the same person Christian Anderson goes on to say, myself and the names another.

A bunch of other officials believe the Jeep was inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory a.k.a. it's not jumping from an animal is not going from animal to human transmission is why is Sen. Marco Rubio is pointed out that animal link has not been found in the past they were found within months because the world wanted to know what was the cause of this.

How do we prevent this, he knows this back in January 2020. Yet, in May 2020. He's making definitive statements played again for every body. This is this is again for five months later definitive statements from fallacy all of his friends must be totally wrong even though there looking at the genomic sequencing and say there's no way this group was created.

This one from an animal to human take us mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with the jump of the species of animal to this not have been artificially deliberately manipulate the way the mutations have naturally evolved naturally you know it is as were talking that this is the opposite of what his colleagues were telling him in the emails that have been released is the exact opposite. This is not what people were being told is not the information that was being shared. So II think I get goes to again at another question that we all want to know why. What no one forced Faucher to make these definitive statements from no one made him say and less the Chinese are paying him and and that's wise for you to be my only the only thing to figure out why scientist who knows it takes a long time to research things would so definitively even after being warned by his colleagues and images were just sharing their insight at that point. This is early on that they don't think it could have been addressed animal to human edited this even if it was created started an animal.

It would, but it's a two week level that you been lab created to make it a net gain of function keeping talked about. And there's a theory were refunding the gain of function research email somebody on a Saturday and this is that the other government bureaucracies email you on a Saturday or cell phone on read this paper. This is the paper that was sent to him on the gain of function about from his friend Christian Anderson by the way down your twitter account.

He gets response back.

Hey the paper you sent were performed before the gain of function. Pause because we are finding that since been reviewed and approved by NIH.

I will try to determine if we have any distant ties to this work on that name are refunding would just concert tonight at 600,000 numbers getting and I think that the only exhalation for his is the end of this is that you must be making money from China has a 90 found in their summaries might Chinese government. In this lab right back. The challenges facing Americans or substantial time in our value freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now.

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Thanks to thanks to I get the trump administration's operation warp speed. That doesn't get us to the answers about why we had to have an operation warp speed is exactly. So I arrived.

I'm going back to the geopolitical aspect of this Harry and the economic consequences of this which the Chinese government so far have been zero where you would think our biggest leverage is our largest trading partner would have been that Dr. the economics of this. I think you're right except we should also keep in mind that the US government's judgment on this particular question has always been clouded by the fact that there is substantial influence internal to the United States that is coming from China. What will I mean, I mean that so many Americans and American multinational enterprises profit from dealing with China. They have therefore been reluctant to crack down hard on the Chinese and guess what those companies have contributed major political contributions to the Democratic Party so you can argue that this possible cover-up has indeed been what an inside job from the get-go. You visited the city I fan when I get all this information Compiler together and you think Washington DC these kind of shifts in just appeared in months. I don't happen so quickly, but that the media you allowed then allow that world to come on and and there allowing Faucher come on in trying to defend himself, but I would expect with Congress returns and he's called back to testify.

This should be a very different kind of testimony is Artie taken Lottie from our Republican senators willing to step up. Now maybe, maybe Democrats are willing to step up because the mainstream media is giving them the green light to do so in maybe Jordan, although I tell Jan I'm not can count on it. I think this is why we continue our FOIA practices is why we continue to demand information from the outside because the change of narrative in Washington DC only happens when it would win its force. I would tell you a couple things were number one of the time period involved here. This was when the United States really could have done something substantive to prevent the spread of the pandemic and was Dr. Faucher in the NIH's job to make sure that all of the information they had was elevated. Clearly he was not doing that I never to Jordan the lab leak or the lab source was always the actually the least controversial theory and then finally I think this is the most important one. This is the question I want Dr. County asked when he does next come to Capitol Hill with which countries bidding were you doing Jordan.

It was your job to protect America first were you more interested in making sure that this virus. I did not impact the United States at least had his little impact as possible, or were you most concerned on helping the Chinese covered up. I think that question should be asked in a exactly that directly. I got this I and I was think about this in a week as lawyers.

Our job is follow the evidence, and an hour job at the ACLJ here is to determine the evidence to find the evidence and that's why we have issued a very lengthy of freedom of information act demand to these various agencies which unfortunately will requires. Jordan mentioned court action to get the answers to. Because the ramifications of this being created in a wet market by accident versus intentionally created for getting intentionally spread on to talk about intentionally created in the cover-up that's taken place here has ramifications. Geopolitically the world. As I said earlier, is still paying the consequences of this in some parts of the world. Large parts of the world is becoming even less under control. India I'd like I said I saw the report this morning in the UK which was planning on opening in full on June 21. Now saying the reevaluating their entire reopening posture because of the rise of cases. The Chinese government has got to be held accountable or drag you really hit it right on the head when you said that there geopolitical implications involved here. This is a world wide event. That's why it's called a pandemic from the Greek bond.

The media affects the entire world. There is not a space on earth that was not touched by this we need to know just exactly what happened. We don't need to be covering it up.

We need to follow the evidence in the investigation of Sec. Pompeo initiated should be reinstated and not suspended as Pres. Biden has done as we need to know who find that here's the questions that I would ask if I was in court and I had Dr. Faucher on the stand who find that the they will hand buyer biology laboratory Google what about this back theory and why do you persist in saying that now that you change your mind in a year in between, say, will that could have been engineered in the laboratory. What occurred during that year to change your mind, Dr. vouching what happened.

What facts did you have that caused you to change your mind from Babs who engineers and I like to know that in and the implications worldwide and our funding of the World Health Organization which is completely control of the Chinese Communist Party in my estimation is a foolish waste of United States taxpayers money. But as you pointed out, there are geopolitical implications because it affects the entire world and those have got to be investigated and not swept under the rug. What is the way forward in your view from Apollo speak a policy perspective here because we were focusing work with is a lot of media about the mass of what he knew about the mass and did know about the mass putting all that aside, okay, forget that this far as I'm concerned what's important here is the geopolitical ramifications of this and what is the way forward. Well, I think we start with a serious investigation and so we need to ask several questions why did so many American experts engage in an effort to obscure the evidence of the most likely explanation for the virus infecting and killing 600,000 Americans 3.7 million deaths worldwide and infecting the hundred and 73.3 million people worldwide. This I think demand a serious investigation. It may require that we go beyond just a serious investigation to a criminal investigation. We need to determine the complicity of any CDC officials.

We need to determine the complicity of any Chinese official and then to the extent that we find affirmative evidence of Chinese complicity. We need to impose sanctions and provide a pathway for for Americans to seek restitution and recovery form because of Chinese negligence.

So I think that's a pathway that I favor. This is a very very serious worldwide event and we cannot allow the Chinese or members of the CDC to get away with it. Then you just put in the chat I think is important for people to understand the reason for Harry's exactly right.

But the reason they won't do it yeah destroys their political narrative dates the same reason, the vice President won't go down to the border because in both cases, the fact that you would discover if you actually were looking for. The facts were ones that don't comport with the political narrative you chosen NJ. I would add one other thing here. I think by insisting that it was the wet market and not the Chinese government. It actually has fueled some of this anti-a set of anti-Chinese people.

Sentiment J there's a big difference between the Chinese people just in the Chinese Communist Party, the regime, the regime is the one that is behaved poorly and that we should be focused on in this distraction. This this following conspiracy theory is rather than pursuing the fact J.

Unfortunately, it's not the only issue to where we seen that happen is the question is what will there be accountability will people like Dr. Faucher be sidelined from what you have these roles therein because if you look at his statement again. Read another one just quickly, if you look at the evolution of the virus and combats of what's out there now. The scientific evidence is very, very strongly leaning towards. This could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated and he doesn't believe in the alternate fear that someone found the coronavirus a while brought it to a lab that actually escaped so I think that this was again statements made in early 2020 when there was no way to be that definitive when his own colleagues and peers in the scientific world were telling him otherwise. He was making the statement, why, why is it massless to the vaccine. Why make this statement, I make it political, why go after the President and the Intel event only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable and voiceless tech. Is there any hope for that culture to survive.

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We need to know who the government bureaucracy have their hands in this like on Facebook that you belie these definitive statements to Congress is a perjury and is interesting because he did make very definitive statements often out of perjury at Devon intent because like even with this very, very strongly says very, very strongly leaning towards. This could not have been so he put out these words are. I think it's this.

Why are we still taking any thing from anything fancy, you don't read as you know she reading his book, he was all over the place and until he discloses whether or not he was making money for the Chinese government or Chinese affiliated organizations and scientific research grants and things like that. I don't think anybody should put them on TV.

Let them defend himself through these emails the email speak for themselves.

All of his colleagues told him you're wrong your wrong stop going around saying that this is animals and that this had something to do with how Chinese people purchase their meat which by the way, we have our own version wet market every grossing a grocery store in America seafood sections meet sections of raw meat is out Rodriguez that we may have different meats, we might have different taste and that's also regional to and also cultural so if you go to 11 area town. Maybe this cultural group divided by two different food at the grocery store.

Yes, it is different in China. Yes, they have it have issues with the past with disease spreading from animal to human of that that again but putting it there gives a free pass to the Chinese government. That's what that is the thing that claim Chinese people.

Yes, when I talk it automatically, and by the Chinese government was trying to blame Andy. The Chinese people by saying it was this deal back to the team to human transmission in one of their unregulated wet markets but the fact is what we have to determine is, why did our government also shut down the investigatory process to get the media now saying all yet. Maybe Trump is right work even more for affirmative Trump was right, but what we have got to get to the bottom of why were shutting these investigations down because there are ramifications for this or that's what I want to know I want to know why always setting the investigations down while we closing down. An investigation was begun by the Secretary of State and as Sec. Pompeo though had an endorsement. Why are we now saying that we are going to close this investigations down because we don't want to know the truth because we don't want to find out the facts. Look, the Chinese people is not the part problem here.

It's the regime we said that we set a time and again it's the Chinese Communist Party that is controlling this, we have leverage we have a President United States who can caution jumping the President of China and say your biggest trading partner I want to know what went on with respect to the activities in his will and lab and I want you to tell me now or else we are going to put sanctions on you.

President trumpeted on that Biden I don't think there's any way in the world that he and his subservient Democrats would ever do that. The consequence of a lack of consequence here is to meet very significant. Harry, because that's the policy message were sending you can create a virus.

You can then be either intentional or negligent or whatever it was getting it out destroying world economies that are still suffering around the globe and basically working at the other governments work hard to shut down the investigation of what actually happened. Absolutely. And it goes further than that, of course, Secretary of State Pompeo has noted, there was resistance within his own State Department to launching a full blooded investigation of what went on a in Wuhan, but I think we should concentrate on the behavior of Dr. Fauci. Did he engage in deliberate efforts to block a full blooded investigation now.

The inference that I raise yet that email go on the minivan currents that I raise from his conduct, or let's call it misconduct is yes, why would he block such an investigation.

It's more likely than not his handprints were all over the gain of function research which took place with in the Wuhan laboratory.

What is that me, it means that the United States was perhaps complicit in its own harm through CDC negligence CDC misbehavior and Dr. Fauci's own misbehavior. Keep in mind, we help fund the Wuhan laboratory.

We were aware that they were engaged in gain of function research and so that is precisely what the scientific evidence now suggests that the code would 19 virus included gain of research Dr. documentation so in an internal memo that was obtained by the Vanity Fair dimension. This earlier, the former acting assistant Secretary of State's Department of the Bureau of arms control verification and compliance not let me read that again, the assistant secretary of the State Department's Bureau of arms control verification and compliance, wrote that the staff and to bureaus his own and the Bureau of International security and nonproliferation war leaders within his Bureau not to pursue an investigation into the argent of October 19 because it would quote open up a can of worms doing that is where it ends at the bottom that is in the internal information so that they knew that there was that there there they don't want the American people know what that is how money much our tax.

Ask you when they say $6000 in five years at me, that's nothing. So that's a lot of resources we start adding that up though with that's what was known what was not known what was the money being used for opening up a can of worms. The idea again. That's what our government is there to do. They are there to open the can of worms to figure out why were facing problems, but the bureaucracy a surrounding itself, protecting itself I don't know if they'll build it to to get away with this time because the media has shifted date they are they are apologetic for saying that those who like all the scientists who were telling Dr. Felty that he was wrong or that, at least to temper his words that maybe they were right in the fact she was wrong he was. Not give the be all in doll on every single subject and and I go to this, though, how long will he be kept around. I believe if you see now is the lamp had tried to remove like another exactly how is Joe Biden really let this guy go on used views government salary to go on TV to defend themselves.

They can then sell the book yet well and let me take a step further and we only got a minute here any but that's precisely why we are going to get this information at the ACLJack, we are going to get this out. They were determined to get it. We did this is what I FOIA litigation is about. We sent a demand they don't respond that we think of the court relitigate the case in US District Judge Stella will have to give it over. And that's what were going to do over there to get to the bottom of it. If the government won't do it. The ACLJ will. This is again it's a weird doing all this work to get the new presumption ACLJ.org optimality from our team are our media team.

What defense you know and when that is up so to run through everything we've been talking about today going through all this.

That's all there chronologically for you at ACLJC could share this with your friends and family and you can share this with your friends and family now because of social media sites are allowing the idea that this was lab created to be shared now with your friends and family. So let's do that again a few of its own, who is been kind of hurt by fancy over these past year plus this is the time the pylon is occurring and he is at the top. He was at the top of this.

That was at the bottom is try to dig a big itself out of the hole.

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