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Biden Proposes to Raise Taxes, Spend $2 TRILLION on Infrastructure

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March 31, 2021 1:00 pm

Biden Proposes to Raise Taxes, Spend $2 TRILLION on Infrastructure

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March 31, 2021 1:00 pm

Biden Proposes to Raise Taxes, Spend $2 TRILLION on Infrastructure.

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Secular mind is set to unveil a $2 trillion infrastructure plan for the United States but the big question is how will your taxes go to pay for will talk about that day on secular Washington DC what the present proposed changes to the corporate corporate tax code more fair. Bring the rate from 21% to 20% of what it was before former Pres. and this incentivize sending jobs overseas phone lines are open for your questions right now. Call 1-800-684-3110 something I think most people most Americans something we should be doing anyway. People have alternative proposals were happy to hear them talk about that. This is just the beginning of a process and now your host Jordan secular is present by peers to unveil his $2 trillion infrastructure package where there's a lot of things in there that you would not consider infrastructure, you know, roads, bridges, airports, plate things like that that need that the driver of the country do we need to spend on.

That's one thing but a lot agreed. New Deal items that here.

For instance part of the greater deal was putting $300 billion, a director of building retrofitting affordable housing and constructing and operating schools. Some of that is okay.

Some of that is green new deal.

Many of the members of Congress to the left or say this not to be to treat this every three or 4 trillion to pay for tax hikes. Now you may hear corporate tax I say oh it's good to go from 21% to 28%, the highest bidder. The US is 35%. So, okay, maybe there are about a corporation. So what's house.

It affected me well if you're an individual earning $200,000 or more year, you'll beat your tax rate will go up if you are married and earning $400,000 or more. Your your tax rate is deftly going to go up under the Biden plan and remembered those numbers could change with this gets to Congress, and it might have to go through reconciliation.

They're looking at summer to get this through.

But remember that when corporate tax rates go up, things get more expensive jobs move to different parts of the world they move out of the United States. So even if you're not in that early category where the taxes got a hit you ultimately things get more expensive it gets more expensive to buy goods and per purchase. And of course to actually create jobs is more expensive to raise wages gets more expensive work for small business that small business owner who likely does make more than the 440,000+ a year or 200,000 piece a euro an individual unmarried. He's got either have to cut wages or hire less people, but you're certainly not to be on the track to be making more money.

So the way that they are getting about doing this. It's I think Mitch McConnell and others are right this is a Trojan horse with a green new deal, and for tax hikes because most of this is not what we consider traditional infrastructure, we could get bipartisan legislation on traditional infrastructure and I think play around with some numbers on taxes, but to to come forward with this kind of a plan. This is the Trojan horse for the green new deal. It's the Trojan horse for higher taxes and people they try to get you think of who cares about those big corporations and higher taxes. Happy you out there work for those big corporations you think it could be as easy to get a promotion. You think your job a move. You think your wages are to go up with their taxes go up your 7% add to an investor plating for this now. She could actually see at a time when it looks like were closer and closer to a reopening blue economically where if everything was on track.

You kept the tax rate to send The Caesar same things would boot, but instead this could this could put a big damper on that boat, which also affects your 401(k)'s and the stock market I retirement the estate tax from 5 million tax-free to 1 million tax-free self try to pass on any well here family. It's more difficult. Also may be hard earned savings that you save for your family be able to pass on Roscoe to talk about this vaccine passport is don't let passport confuse you with international that's how it what to try to do this is about state to state business-to-business pipette that really talk about Facebook hold down more tribes interview with Board President Donald Trump's analogous secure news agency. Even you can't post an interview with Donald Trump.

This is absurd. Folks read to all that we come back on secular the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress.

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Whether you like them or not, so that you can see what the former President thinks that that's just absurd is absurd but will get into that further we get into this vaccine passport and or of course take your calls at 1-800-684-3110. What you think about this Trojan horse infrastructure plan. Let me just say off the bat. I support getting our infrastructure up to speed the United States as a part of how we could compete against China talk a lot about China. That's, that's, roads, bridges, you note that the airports travel those abilities and get some of that would be other construction projects as well. It in public schools and things like that when you look at how they want to do with public schools. Existing buildings it's green new deal type language and of course all they try to play it off as this will have no impact on middle-class workers and you know those who leave the factory workers also working blue-collar jobs because they're not getting a tax hike but the companies they work for our so how much more difficult will be to find those jobs keep those jobs keep getting raises in those jobs see wages go up as the wages go down, you know, Dana Facebook asserted she just paid four dollars a gallon for gas in California. Please explain how this helps the working class and the working poor of you here, you do something like this it it has a direct impact on the working class and the working poor, absolutely. So if you listen to Jan Saki, the President's press secretary or if you listen to Joe Biden. One thing becomes eminently clear and quickly they don't understand economics. So for instance Jan Saki suggests raising corporate taxes will help prevent firms from sending jobs overseas.

This is absolute nonsense raising corporate taxes will mean that average Americans will have to join in and pay the tax as prices go up. For instance, if prices go up. For instance, then foreign imports will rise and US jobs will shrink. So effectively the Biden plan is aimed at shrinking the labor force in the United States and increasing the labor force. For instance, in China.

In addition, the Biden plan will encourage American corporations to move overseas for multinational corporations, intracorporate accounting measures will also move money overseas so a President.

Biden is talking about raising the corporate tax by 30%, raising it from 21% to 28%. That is a 30% increase in reality this is a climate change plan masquerading as an infrastructure plan and at the end of the day. It's important for average Americans to understand that as taxes go up on fossil fuels, which is part and parcel of this program on gasoline prices, which will rise and so the question for the American people is how many American people believe they are not paying enough for gasoline was, I think it's rich that he calls if the American jobs plan his first week in office with the stroke of a pen on executive order eliminated 20,000 jobs are almost 20,000 jobs. What he's doing is antithetical to economic growth.

They had this belief and this is very obvious that they do two things. One, that debt doesn't matter and that big government drives economic growth, not private enterprise, and that is absolutely the opposite of what really works and what has worked in the past in the US economy. People say well these things Italy for corporations, it won't affect individuals, it won't affect me.

What will affect us as individuals is that the absolute predictable results of some of these policies and that is what will affect us as inflation and unemployment and with companies and factories going back overseas. They just started coming back to America the last four years. Two people lose their jobs. And of course the increased cost of everything. This this plan. Besides being something that that really most of it is not about infrastructure just like most of coated relief bill was not about coded in addition to that these policies and plans if they go through will absolutely set the American economy back on its heels.

This to me anyway when you really look at this and boil it down and I get really into the vaccine passport tissue so share this broadcast with your friends and family on a Facebook on you to encourage you to share his Reno vaccine passport really that misnomer about the name their passport what the really time as domestic travel domestic business as well. Very differently time in international travel, what other countries may require you to do that that's different but but Annie had anyone going on this. This tax issue because that's really when you when you do infrastructure yet to figure out a way to pay for the Democrats way to always pay for things is to raise taxes so they will raise taxes on small business owners because those the people are making the between two and $40,000 a year. They wanted which again makes it tougher for them to expand their small business makes it tougher for them to edit time when these businesses are still trying to just survive with the with the pandemic and they have a bill to fully reopen yet to raise corporate income tax. They try to make it like a big corporations could deal with.

It's no big deal, but that has a direct effect of consumers, employees, those big corporations who are at the top earners there with her and you're absolutely right. Jordan absolutely does have an effect when you tax a corporation moving it from 21% to 28% on the corporate tax who you think you affect but the worker and the ultimate consumer because is going to pay for those tax increases that these corporations are going to have to ultimately absorb it's going to be you and me is going to be people at the gas pump. It's going to be people who have jobs so as Mitch McConnell said we are hearing the next few months might bring the so-called infrastructure proposal that may actually be a Trojan horse for tax hikes while it is it's not a Trojan horse.

It's not disguised tax increases are going to come. Biden said that during his campaign he devoted for me to going to vote for tax increases.

Well, they voted form and the going to get the tax increases and other job killing left wing policies. Why have we seen the wave of economic growth that we saw under Pres. Trump look over the side that was a phenomenal phenomenon that did that that that was unexpected, but look at the tremendous increase in jobs and productivity that we saw under Pres. Trump and the Republican tax cutting measures. Now this Pres. is seeking to reverse all that in the name of infrastructure, but it's not infrastructure where $400 billion care for the elderly and disabled Americans what to do with roads, bridges, tunnels, airports, imports, is not nothing to do with it and don't tell me that your interview he was against the green new deal during his campaign. Jordan now used for the green. The deal because he says that it's going to be $300 billion in the building and retrofitting affordable housing that that is clearly a green new deal pet project. So were being sold a bill of goods here by saying the tax increases are going to help us they're not going to help us in the harness and a hard job creation other than her. People who live and try to work and make a living in the US take a couple calls this post 1-800-684-3110. That's 106 843-1104. Get into the vaccine passport for get into Trump yelled interviews being taken down off Facebook even when it's other people's accounts, which raises a whole host of issues and we got the emails because Erica Mendel and and Laura Trump both release the emails that they received on her Facebook page about the interview she did with her father in law who former President of the ISH enough Fox News contributor, but didn't Saki sing the portion that hasn't been announced yet of this infrastructure plan is something quote what is sometimes called social what is social infrastructure will talk that we come back from the break. One 800 684 30 wanted to talk to us on every it's all the other issues as well Facebook and from other the vaccine passport issue and how it might affect you domestically. Don't be caught off guard as a with the passport River final day of our matching challenge in March until midnight tonight to double the impact your donation@aclj.org donate today will be right back only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally support publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the worship ministry what Obama care means to the prone life in many ways your membership is powering the right question free copy of mission life today online ACLJ/the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad.

Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 gift becomes 20 $50 gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ.

The work we simply would not occur without your generous take part in our matching challenge make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you beautiful gift today online ACLJ back to secular. We are to take your phone calls at 100 684 30 wanted. Your second half hour to get into the vaccine passport issue related to this Facebook issue where again the other contacted by Facebook said I saw a large Trump's Instagram account that she will be hosting interview with Pres. Trump tonight, just a reminder that counted post on Facebook and Instagram in the voice of Pres. Trump is not currently allowed our platforms including new post with Pres. Trump speaking to just doing an interview and will be removed if posted resulting in additional limitations on accounts that posted and of course she posted and they removed it and we got that email that came from Facebook as well so you can't even interview the former President and share that on the major social media platform for video in our country either Instagram or Facebook because Facebook owns Instagram and so again, what would happen if seated at the interview or Fox News just did it as Fox News could they not shared.

I could if we had. We represent the former President still in our private practice. If we were to have him on this broadcast. I guess we couldn't go live on YouTube or Facebook because they be taking it down and then you're putting our Facebook page at risk, which is a horrendous place to be and when you're talking about just doing what would interview the present of the border or or the economics of that this tax hike not getting his issues about the election just issues of current issues and forward-looking.

But I guess no, that's not allowed. Even though it's not in its of his voice like he's controlling it. He's doing an interview. The interviewee the interviewer controls it by asking the questions that the interviewee and so again, I think, is to bury Dave's room get into all that about AI but I still I want to get into the. The idea that the chin Saki said that some of this infrastructure plan will be quote what is sometimes called social infrastructure that Harry will go back to sometime some of this sounds nice. You know pre-k for every body.

More welfare programs. They do talk about a recurring stimulus check that goes out but but all this really gets down to control because then you are totally reliant on the federal government to pay her bills.

If they give the stimulant the recurring stimulus check education wise you're getting it if you got used to these programs will never let them they will never go away. Increase welfare Bureau make it more available to more people. So once again you're raising like the levels of people that are eligible for people that again. It's the opposite of try to get people back to work the opposite.

People try to make decisions on their own and all this in the middle still coming out of pandemic. I think you're absolutely correct. So if you look at the Biden administration's approach. They are intent on doing one thing, forcing socialism down the throat of the American people and they want to do it in a surreptitious way. In other words it's a Trojan horse so they first want to expand the dependency clocks make more and more Americans dependent on the federal government for resources for income they want to sever. For instance, a work requirement from welfare and this will produce reliable voters going forward and this will enfranchise the Democratic Party as the permanent party in the United States and they will move the country toward a one-party government which will resemble in some respects, not all what is already going on in China. So China is a communist country, at least officially. They also believe in markets and so but as part of the power structure. There they favor certain people in the United States. The people that will benefit from this socialist agenda are elites large corporations who did have large campaign contributions onto leading members of the Democratic party and the voice of the average working man or woman in the United States will essentially be silenced. So this infrastructure bill, particularly when it talks about social infrastructure is indeed a Trojan Hoyt horse and it's a poisonous one was whenever the government especially the left and the government talks about building social infrastructure. Infrastructure the hair on the back of my neck stand that because I think what that means is they want to design society according to their agenda may society socialist think tank the building. Social infrastructure is they want to design American culture American society. According to their blueprint. It brings back to mind. You know the words of Ronald Reagan who said the scariest words in the English language are from the government and I'm here to help.

That has become Jordan.

The defining difference between the two main political parties in America one believes that big government is absolutely the answer and we should genuflect at that and say yes sir yes sir three bags full and the other men believes more in private enterprise and individual rights and states rights, and all the plans are coming out of me think about it were only in in in the last day of March, there been so many alarming plans and trends coming out of Washington DC just in the last couple of three months. They are in overdrive with this agenda, which I believe is out of touch with most Americans, which is part of the reason that they keep putting all of these plans and policies and programs built into larger nice sounding bills because I think if they went out and they were straightforward and honest about what their designs are about what their goals are.

It would absolutely scare most of the American people so they hide it in in these large I'm in this kind of bills you and I remember coming up second-half our integrity vaccine passport retired about Pres. Trump of this ban on Facebook you from interviewing other former Presidents over talk about that give us a call one 800 684 31 to want to listen to a former economic advisor to Pres. Trump now far back as a hosted FOXBusiness Larry Kudlow take a listen. By 18 very interesting numbers here. The federal government is only owns 5% of our nations infrastructure 5% private people 65% and states and local governments 30%. So what you got here is this massive oversized government is like a transformational event going back to the new deal or earlier. It's going to completely change the American economy for the worse.

Central planners are gonna run our lives, and I don't think I can be a good thing any. This is the idea here is that in some states figuring this out instead of private people who own 65% of it. This is more of a push to control more of our life central planners central planners which is what the Marxists were in the ideology of the Soviet Union was economic central planning. That's what it was. It was an economic theory and an economic based on the idea based on Marxian principles of central planning.

So what we've got here is we have a veneer of capitalism that we try to sell to the American people but it's really authoritarian capitalism is what it is.

Authoritarian capitalism when I see words like social structure and social infrastructure that scares the devil out of me because what it means it is getting their fingers the government's fingers into your daily life. This is the third Obama administration and the third Obama needed to write it. Good on you to read and agree to deal which is part of this program is to steal our money implement control over people centralize control and planning and make regulations to destroy small business couldn't agree more.

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We get those ready one 800 684 31 two that's 106 843-1101 take this call on the infrastructure program, a patrician California you're on the air will not crawl thank you Patricia, is whether or not we are at Congress. Numeric pain with Dr. Bell lifting with the things that have been tagged on file. I have something I can do it in private and stop what is the year and instead decided this week, but I think when we get closer to the sexy being put into legislative framework is that it can be very tough to get 10 Republicans on board with this right so they're gonna have to probably go to either abolishing the filibuster by that point I would say talks about or try to do this to a budget reconciliation where you get around the 60 vote threshold to the 50 vote threshold. You can use so if you get all the Democrats plus the vice President you cover to make the tie-breaking vote is present, the Senate, you could pass that so I think that's probably they've Artie said they're open to doing reconciliation and doing it that way so so what has to be done from now until then, is to point out everything in this that has nothing to do with actual infrastructure and how a lot of this is wasteful spending and making more people.

As Harry said, reliant dependent on the federal government and the social infrastructure talk about this idea with social infrastructure that again central planning comes right out of like the Communist manifesto at the writings of Karl Marx and it's exactly what China does and and and the six plan from the center for every body. Instead of taking away your ability. You know, at the local level and state level to do its best, regionally, locally for you and what's best for your economy in your state or you are.

It's to do it all from the federal government, and I think it ties into some of these other issues really get into. Will we come back for the break. Like the vaccine passport three kids that right away we come back from the break, but let me just give you little tease on that is a passport that has nothing to do with international travel that something totally different than what another country may require you to do. I we do a lot of work in your Africa face he better get this this and this vaccine before you come. It's up to you if you want to go you got agree by that country standards that's different than what they're talking. That is a domestic system. Domestic system run by businesses in states because by does that she would do it at the federal level because it would get too much pushback.

So we talked about all of that and how complicated and confusing. That bureaucracy could be predation wants to come out of a pandemic.

It could be booming economically, but instead could it be that can all be overshadowed by your bureaucratic mess call it that we write back on secular the American Center for Law and justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom detecting those for their faith. Uncovering corruption in Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 gift becomes 20 $50 gift becomes 100.

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Talk that's just coming out the idea for this property to be summertime of the trade actually move forward. Let with the legislation so I get. We just want to highlight to you what to start looking for is not just even the tax hikes. It's also what they mean by social infrastructure. All these different points. Let's get them so that they could start impacting us right away. This is vaccine passport issue was all over the news and I think it by using the term passport. It's misleading passport. You know it it it it it it you think immediately.

International travel while you don't in the United States we could say you know what you need to have tab to become United States and island and in the Caribbean.

If you were to take a Caribbean trip. After you've been vaccinated.

If you haven't been vaccinated could say what they require for you to come that's not in the US they get to make up the rules they get to decide what the rules are the UK. If you're an American wants to travel there internationally so it's not that we talk about vaccine passport that some were talking about were not tight at what it will take to travel internationally again and will there be some head of international database.

In fact, as of now the Biden administration doesn't want to take the heat on having a federal nationwide database they wanted.

Put this passport idea, which is about going to a concert in your solid-state or maybe an estate nearby is a couple hours away or be staying in a hotel or getting on an airplane to travel domestically and they want to leave it up to states and businesses to start making the rules that I think it will then be really up to states and localities, but how confusing does that become when you're in one state that may not require this and you want to go to another state that does so that your state almost is forced into have to provide some kind of vaccine passport so you go even maybe cross state lines and be able to conduct business like getting gas or checking into a hotel or attending a conference conducting business going into a restaurant.

That's what they mean by passport. They are not talking about international travel that something very different. What what is required to go to another country. Some countries with lots requirements and shot you have to get Jeff to provide that to get the visa. That's up to that country. This is a domestic passport is what they're really talking about and Harry. I think pipe kicking the bucket here to states and businesses to do this actually makes the whole thing even more complicated, more confusing and potentially how it's done.

Tramples on a lot of individual liberty rights in the Constitution absolutely zero.

I think this proposal on its face is designed as another Trojan horse, but it if we look at it carefully.

It is a corporate authoritarian database which will then be linked to other corporations to other businesses and perhaps to foreign governments. So for instance I have traveled to Africa I needed to take a typhoid truck or a collar shot or yellow fever but all I needed was a car I didn't need a digitized so-called permission slip to purchase gasoline in my neighborhood and I think part of the problem is in the United States.

We have such large corporations and they have such a large database and they can voluntarily link this to the federal government, and so and I'm not defending Edward Snowden but he pointed out some of the problems that we have had in the United States, and I think ultimately we set ourselves to be hacked, by whom the Chinese right and then to the extent that they have that information and they can then link it to other healthcare information about us as individuals. This is very, very dangerous and this means that the American people could fall prey to authoritarian control, not necessarily from government directly, but from corporate authoritarian get in there and that being supported by the federal government now. I think that this is the question coming in Asante in Nevada online force of information on Nevada Asante. Welcome to secular you're on the year, I'm still wondering like direction all the billing on what you think about driving because if you now have our somethings are trying to make it what you have to have the vaccine to travel, which we will never let not being able to get your driver license and you can't open state of vaccine, but then me for sided with trip on your right to travel in interstate inside the ice of the constitutional right given right to move your rights travel you're not stuck in a state that's part of your constitutional right.

If you get if you want to go somewhere else to visits people. It's all part of United States of America. 20 of the United States of America.

If you want to move to another state for job you have the right to do that if a better attribute to better your yourself, your family, put them in a better spot. You have these rights that are enshrined by so the Constitution and Supreme Court precedent. The question then becomes, that ways can you go into the DMV.

If you don't have the vaccine certificate or at least a note from a doctor saying that you have conditions because there are people that literally cannot get take the vaccine they think they just can't. And I'm not about taking some pro-or anti-position on this understanding, there are some people that can't take the vaccine they really do it for health reasons, so that you say we need some kind a doctor's note and have to keep wearing a mask or something. But the idea is if you can even go to the DMV, then you can't get a license can't legally be driving a car be this dispose a lot of problems was the ramifications are really, really, you know, unpredictable and expensive and didn't sake up. I'm sorry.

I have never seen a press that during my lifetime and I'm old harsh words the way she does. You have to listen so carefully to what she's saying she's not saying and the nuances because when she says what she did that. Concerning this this passport vaccine passport where we will defer to companies individual Corporation enter the states.

This administration, the federal government is in hyper mode of controlling companies and states and so that is not very very reassuring to me when they say that not be that you have the shutdown of the closures to this that this is just sake by 14 there'll be no centralized universal federal vaccinations database and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential. While, but all that is that you want to have one specific credential because everybody gets kind like different cards and different vaccines but but EE goes on because that that she gets question about this vaccine passport if you take a listen again to to the bite, we expect that and I think validity that determination or development of a vaccine passport or whatever you want to collate will be driven by the private sector ours will more be focused on guidelines that can be used as a basis. Guidelines acute so there you control me here that this there is working to tell you what you need to have. To meet the federal standard. So I think it is clear and I think Wesley is designed to the Jen sake believes in the creative use of language and meaning, of course, that she believes in duplicity and I think it will be clear and clear clear or I should say to the American people that the Biden administration is becoming the most duplicitous administration in US history. And so we should take every single statement made by Jen Zaki and Pres. Biden with huge grains of salt because at the end of the day. They do not fundamentally believe in the rule of law. They don't fundamentally believe in the Constitution. Notice what she said. She said we will provide guidance that means they will provide control. But then when things go south. They will then blame it on those corporations which were guided by them.

I think if you get so confusing. Have states, different states, different businesses requiring different things to show but you know it's one thing again this is not talking about international travel, the use that word passport passport implies international travel so you can prove you're a citizen of the United States you get a passport to travel on.

When you travel to a country that some countries that's all you need in other countries. They require you to get lots of shots and records of those to get a visa or have to have at least the card with you that says you receive those shots for you travel there. So again that's international. That's a whole different issue that we can get into about how this reopening of the world that is done or time at the mystic travel here were talking about. Even inside your own state.

Can you go do something or will the business require you to have this this and this and that's being encouraged by the federal government, you can imagine how complicated this gets to issues that part that the card you get when you get the vaccine for the CDC is in some other part is that of the universal one vaccine better than the other now and we learn things later that this would better see if that would do.

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Even in your own state that travel like down the street to the gas station to build a walk inside the grocery store to be able to go inside the concert hall to be able to go inside. Are your kids to go to school and inside the school building. By the fall when school is hopefully no reopens everywhere. What will they be requiring this is not even what you need to do cross state lines. That will certainly become one of the issues to because your other subsidies, arguments no way were not to do this. Fort is knocking us is has a summer not doing this.

But what if a citizen of Florida needs to go visit family in New York things are reopening who is getting issue. What in New York requires this this and this took this for the issue at this New York issue a private business issue that some you get a bye this is when you get into issues and he that become so complicated legally they become. It becomes very difficult for people to to comply with. That's right, Jordan, and a lot of these issues raised matters of constitutional proportion because of the Constitution United States says that each citizen is entitled to the privileges and immunities of all citizens. As you said earlier in the broadcast. This is the United States of America. We don't put up barriers and borders we call them boundaries between states and so what are we going to have people and border patrol saying let me check your card to see if you can go from Atlanta to Nashville to see whether or not you're allowed to travel. This is the kind of misguided thing that the Biden administration just laid out there and what worries me is when they use the words will gonna let the federal government said some baseline guidance. That's code word for control that's all that there is a issue question Ohio and I can actually see exactly talk to Larry.

Welcome to secular Jordan I appreciate your question, I believe what you don't want to go to create that they keep my big thing and I have supported on one people in the future? When I was stationed on the checkpoints between country to verify our passports and so forth are we looking at this kind of thing here between states. Yes, that's what were talking about here. 62 at the state level from state to state travel and even inside your own state to be looking to go into a building to go into a private you know our facility as you have the sporting event, concert to go back into your office that you may work in that you may be working from home. All of that at the local level, but I can also imagine state like New York or California of a blue state so we don't hear your say Florida is accurate. You are so proofread down there if your people want to come up here.

They're going to have to have this this and this innocence Harry forcing Florida to create this even though Ron Santos has been so out front say absolutely not what you do in your citizens need to travel to another state that says you gotta have this this and this from your state from some authority. I think you raise a very very good question. It's all about control. So ultimately we may face the ironic situation that you cannot travel freely in the United States without a digital vaccine passport unless you can prove that you are an illegal immigrant. Because if you are an illegal immigrant. More likely than not the rules. In most states will be inapplicable and you see that taking place with respect to making in person learning available to illegals in California while denying in person learning with respect to American citizens so ultimately it's about control and at the end of the day. If you read the information that is out there on the Internet.

Many on the left. They are fully embracing this why because they want to be able to control the movements of conservatives. So at the end of the day it's very very possible. If a digital passport is made possible for every single citizen then it will be discriminatory.

Early in force, and I think that will weaken our democracy and before we say that could never happen in America. I remember when I lived on the West Coast and from time to time I would drive from Washington state, Oregon down to California. They actually have order people going into California from the states demanding to know whether or not I'm carrying fruits and vegetables into the state of California and during the height of the coded crisis last spring and summer I traveled to a town which will go nameless, and North Carolina and at the city limits of the city of North Carolina. They had their police station, stopping every car and her question to me was what business do you have your yeah, it sounded like the Gestapo in Germany. Yeah, this is what you you have you set up the states that are more the blue side and if they have blue state governors, Democratic governors started limiting this and yet you live in a red state the borders that stayed in the mess becomes that much bigger. And of course that the actual a lot of this would be litigated is not about whether or not you should or should get the vaccine.

What's required for you know in your business for you to go back to work. That's one thing. This is like this is eight creating a we want states to create the database state to put in the regulations will does have some guidelines for them. I think what were you get into is you get into all the legal issues that can be raised at the up to the US Supreme Court, if necessary, but also how this could totally damp put a damper on the reopening of America but do not, I want you to take away from this show.

One thing we hear vaccine passport stop just to stop the international travel and start think about what Wes just talked about about counties putting out there their police forces cities bring up their police force states to get their police forces, asking the question, have you been vaccinated. You have proof that vaccination. What are you going to do here where you plan to go and then of course you want to go to a concert.

Have you, but you know what you need to show for this concert.

What if take with this. What we have to do to go to your local grocery store that's with her tied up with using word passport to try to fool us dreadful.

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