Share This Episode
Jay Sekulow LIVE! Jay Sekulow Logo

Breaking: Pelosi Introduces Articles of Impeachment

Jay Sekulow LIVE! / Jay Sekulow
The Truth Network Radio
January 11, 2021 12:00 pm

Breaking: Pelosi Introduces Articles of Impeachment

Jay Sekulow LIVE! / Jay Sekulow

On-Demand Podcasts NEW!

This broadcaster has 242 podcast archives available on-demand.

Broadcaster's Links

Keep up-to-date with this broadcaster on social media and their website.


January 11, 2021 12:00 pm

Breaking: Pelosi Introduces Articles of Impeachment.

YOU MIGHT ALSO LIKE

This is been introduced in the House of Representatives live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow phone lines are open for your questions right now called one 800-6843 1-101-800-6841 10 and the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice Jay Sekulow everybody will broadcast world, we do a breaking news on this eight days before Rosen Woodbine this morning to office. The House of Representatives have introduced articles of impeachment and article of impeachment actually against the President of the United States. This is not a rerun of a repeat of the previous broadcast. This is a brand-new resolution that is been introduced to the United States House of Representatives.

My understanding is that it at this point it has over 200 sponsors more to be added. It looks like that unless something happens that this article impeachment will be acted on by as early as tomorrow or Wednesday. They introduce this article. Impeachment at the same time others at was an attempt for the house to pass a resolution to demand that the vice President implemented 20 Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution is a very serious and somber day for the country again and we have to look at this book from a little perspective in a legal perspective and also I think the paramount perspective. Here's what's in the best interests of the country look the events that took place last week on the capital were horrific. Let me be clear that was not civil disobedience that wasn't civil protest which took place on Capitol Hill with terrorism, domestic terrorism, of course, it was a host of federal crimes involved vandalism, destruction of property, life and limb of individuals threatened people murdered some of said insurrection that this is not a a comparable to a civil protest or even acts of civil disobedience blocking the doorway entrance to the capital would be illegal, but it doesn't reach the level of insurrection. Now whether this meets those legal standards is not working to delve into today. We have to delve into today is the reality that this is now upon our country and how does this work. Summary the right to fan Bennett Washington DC was right across the street from the capital or offices.

There and fan what is the process right now. So the process right now as you mention J the article of impeachment has been drafted and introduced in the house. The primary author was Congressman's. This Illini obviously at Speaker Pelosi's authorization to get it introduced into the house. We have confirmation that it has indeed been dropped what they call into the hopper. It's where you put a new pieces of legislation that are being introduced.

That has now happened. J it really is up to the speaker. Now when she wants to call it up as she does not have to go through the judiciary committee.

They can report that out in chairman Nadler has said that he is willing to do that.

Just like you I'm hearing that she would be open to considering it as soon as tomorrow may be as late as Wednesday like you also said she does not believe that the vice President is going to initiate the 20 Fifth Amendment so I was there a lot of steps involved here J but just to give you the first one the ball right now is in Speaker Pelosi's court. If she decides to put this on the floor of the house. The next question is timing. Does she do that tomorrow. Does she do that Wednesday we can get to the posture that the Senate's end in a minute. It's a little bit complicated, but right now were waiting to see what Speaker Pelosi wants to do as far as timing only 1/42 left here and your remote today, but I was listening important to, what's your sense of this is were not every I will come back to will come back to Jordan after the after the break and he quickly somber serious serious accusation. It's a serious accusation them in the language of it is very high and says that he incited violence against the government of the United States and that engaged in violent destructive acts of these things are serious accusation yes.

So the question to me how they met the also the question is going to be asked is this the time for impeachment when the President is literally out of office in eight days when finger calls and comments as well. In an hundred 684-3110 more moment challenges facing Americans are substantial time and are now in our freedoms, our constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ on the front lines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress. In the public arena and exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times.

The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you Knott's well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold mission like it will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists.

The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the abortion industry and what Obama care means to the pro-life in many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right question free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/is joining us on the update was happy just moments ago house representative has introduced for the second time.

Articles and Pete article of impeachment against the President of United States present from his one article of impeachment. The article focuses in on and I'll review from the article, one which they call incitement of insurrection. The Constitution provides of the house representative shall have the sole power of impeachment and by the way, that's true. So the House of Representatives member the power to impeach rest in the House of Representatives, conviction, or trial, the adjudication of the impeachment article rest in the Senate so it says rights that job the sole power of impeachment house that's true in the present, shall be moved from office on impeachment for, and then it says and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. Then they incorporate section 3 of the 14th amend to the Constitution, which prohibits any person who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States from holding any office under the United States. So Jordan let me go to you first on this and get your sense of this is very narrowly tailored very direct article impeachment here. I still think the big issue is not so much that the house would have boats to impeach because as you said, they have the sole power to impeach Democrats have majority where it goes.

And this talk of impeaching now and not having a trial potentially for until the first 100 days is over for her the incoming President Joe Biden, and that so that he would be able to set the cabinet. Why on earth would we put the country through that and I think there's only one. One answer is only one answer it's because Nancy Pelosi said on TV. She said one of the driving factors of this impeachment is not just remove the present, but is to make sure that he can't run for office again and that is part of the punishment and come with being convicted and it's interesting that you can be convicted that two thirds he got a have 67 votes that require 17 Republicans in the U.S. Senate. But let's say that happened, then you get that question of disqualification from running for federal office. There's a debate about whether or not you can just do that with a majority vote and and again this is something that is been key for the house after the Democrats in particular is not just to remove the President, but to prevent him from seeking office again in four years. What's also interesting about this is that the way it's set up when you impeach a sitting President, the Chief Justice of the United States serves as you saw last year was just this week last year that the song we were getting ready to go and John Roberts. The Chief Justice of the United States serves as the presiding officer when you try the VA President of the United States not a President of the United States. So the question then becomes, on the a President of the United States, assuming legally you can then still try him articles impeachment up and introduce them to be tried after his out of office. I think the scholarship is debating on that And began I'm not sure John Roberts has to be the presiding officer. I think the Senate may Andy be able to set its rules on that because they are the ones that determine the rules here.

And by the way, so you understand by the time that this would actually get to trial if it were to follow any realistic plan. It would be when Chuck Schumer was the center. Schumer was the majority leader of the Senate. That's a correct analysis J you know the Senate since the rules with respect to these matters. And of course if he is not the President of the time President, would not have to be tried as you said, I could see an argument he made would not have to be tried by the Chief Justice of the United States. He could be someone else was the presiding officer and all these things raise complex issues that did create the of fun fodder for scholars to determine whether or not and how we perceive Wes, let me ask you this question because a lot of there's a lot of healing and then land talk and I'm just, you know, I'm wondering how this yields land J and your pastor, I mean when I get out of regularly legally trained as well, and you're currently not it states Army retired I'm talking he is pastorally here. Sure Andy and I were just talking about this before radio today and NRM both of our churches. We are taught and there are actually prayers written for the nation and its leaders and this past week.

Those prayers for the nation and its leaders for both of us became a lot more serious and out.

You pray a lot more earnestly but you looking at this whole impeachment thing. First of all there's no way to overstate how serious what took place at the capital last week, as I mean, under their duties as part of the 12th amendment, the vice President in the Congress were gathering to count the electoral college votes. That is their sworn duty and so the fact that the attack took place while that was happening by every indication means they were trying to stop that and that is a serious charge, what happened last week was not patriotism as you said on terrorism terrorism but on the other hand, my prayer and my hope and is not happening so far is that somehow the Democrat leadership if you will would accept victory by trying to put as much of this behind us as we can and celebrating who we really are as Americans and bring healing and peace, and at this point they are not doing that even though even though they know that there's no way they can bring this to the Senate before the inauguration. It seems to be especially on the part of the House of Representatives and Nancy Pelosi revenge and the unity and the healing of the American people be damned. Yes that's so sad.

I wondered than on the timing.

We practically speaking, that I think the earliest.

The Senate comes back and is the 19th correct unless all 100 and come back right Jordan touched on this.

The Senate is currently in pro forma session and egg they got into that posture J by unanimous consent and that is important because in order to come back before January 19. They would have to put forward.

Another unanimous consent, or the President would have to request their session for purposes of impeachment trial lavishly. That's not can happen quickly enough that the only way they could get back in a posture to begin the trial is unanimous consent of the United States and I'm on that of the Senate. I'm with Jordan on this.

I don't think that is going to happen so realistically that means they reconvene on the 19th and even if the house and the Senate both move very quickly to fulfill their role in the process of getting those manager sent over to present the articles. This soonest a trial would start in that scenario, J is January 20 at 1 o'clock after Joe Biden has been inaugurated and by the way, after the two a Georgia Senators are seated as well. That's probably can happen sometime shortly after January 15, so they would be seated there as soon as the Senate came a formally back into session so him again to Jordan's point about the timing of this could all be over. On January 20. If they were to wait until then it would obviously extend out further and if they were to wait up to the hundred days into the administration you're talking about may I J I sure hope this comes to an end before me.

That's interesting here is that I think was January 20.

Jordan we set down the Senate chambers to begin maybe was the 21st, the actual impeachment last year. This is a very different case, though in a very different argument being made there in the situation previous remember was about a phone call to the President of Ukraine and was all kind of executive privilege issues and executive power, and separation of powers. What's the authority of the present United States on international affairs. This is an and we were successful in that impeachment. This case is different.

Jordan and the weight they have drafted this article and remember then it was a completely partisan impeachment.

Not a single Republican in the House of Representatives joined the impeachment vote. So from the start. It was Artie flawed when you look at impeachments and no President has actually been convicted in the impeachment trial and when you look back in history of the there's only one case where someone out where impeachment was still going when they were they had resigned from office, and ultimately the Senate just dropped the case because they were no longer in office.

That was a judge that judge a federal judge is different than the present because of what comes with being a former President you just the yearly stipend, but it's also the Secret Service protection. A very large travel stipend as well.

After the rest of your life and so long that Secret Service, but it's also again that ability to run, but different tiers you would see not a time but some Republican support in the house for for this kind of direct impeachment this resolution. Specifically, these are this one article if you will. And then we know that there is some support in the U.S. Senate. For this we don't know that if they could get to 17 Republicans and I think it becomes much tougher as you get into if they try to do this.

Well let's Joe Biden let it be present without this hanging over 400 days and then he's basically got everything figured out will shut down the business of the country. That's what happens if you all remember folks and will just have a trial of the U.S. Senate of a former President surrendering Donald Trump back up to the forefront again. You think about that as one as a Democrat, is that the best strategy is it really worth it if it's very difficult to get to 67.

History showed that and then to put the country through that were still good to be dealing with covert were still there to be dealing with a lot of businesses hurting were still there to be dealing with trying to get past this incident that occurred in trying to heal the nation to then just restart that whole conversation again and act like we can just wait for 100 days go back to normal and then come right back to that. To me it just is very bizarre and did not think through is a is a kind of as a movement I were taking taken a break when we come back we can have your questions and comments and also encourage you to share the urine versus media platforms share this with your friend. Make sure you subscribe to Facebook and YouTube and other platforms that special video running after this would be right back.

Only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable. Is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition life will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the abortion industry and what Obama care means to the prone life in many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right question for you, mission life today online ACLJ/challenges facing Americans are substantial time and are now free to start constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines injecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. You are already a member. Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us.

ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ. David, what we had. And understand articles of impeachment of been introduced in the House of Representatives enough and it's possible that they are acting on as early as today or tomorrow, correct yes I think tomorrow would be the first time that they would actually take them up at their their active day they were introduced this morning during the pro forma session is one article impeachment for insight minute insurrection. The rely of course on the facts of what took place that horrible day last week. They also point to the 14th amendment, section 3 which talks about the disqualification clause is the disqualification clause, United States Constitution, and it says that no person shall be a senator representing the Congress for Lecter of Pres. and VP hold any office under the United States or any state who invented me down to it, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

In other words, the argument is that took place during the events leading up to the attack on the United States capital that that process, not just not just the act itself. The process leading up to that constituted an incitement for insurrection.

Any that's the legal theory, they're going with but understandably want is not a legal process.

It is a political process that tried to what impeachment is, is what the House of Representatives at any particular time in history defines as a high crime and misdemeanor and it's not a legal definition. It is a political definition that is made by members of the House of Representatives based upon acts that they feel are impeachable offenses and as I say it's a political decision. It's not a legal decision. What is a high crime and misdemeanor is determined as I said at any time in history based upon what the majority of the House of Representatives decides not of course that Senate has to try the case and has to convict or acquit. But it is a political process all the way through okay so when I go to West and Jordan. So Wes is you're looking at the articles of impeachment.

You see the total difference between the Ukraine situation that we dealt with this very month last year. One year ago and this are very different. You absolutely know this is much more if if you believe the charges black-and-white gear accusing the President of violation of his constitutional duty is his oath that the laws be faithfully executed. That is a very very serious charge. It's, it's, even though impeachment is a political act. This is not a criminal trial. This is a political trial if you will, but still a death of very, very serious charge that is not nebulous like what we know, witness last year on foreign policy on our policy and on the phone call you if they can prove to enough members of the House of Representatives that he actually won the house of representatives I think is foregoing, it is on America to be exactly, but in the process. The they're saying that he actually incited this, he incited an attack on the United States government at the capital building that is a black-and-white serious tartlets a serious charge. Now that the arguments are going to be having some it's not a is not a self proving charts are as a people need understanding the due process. There are some due process requirements are now the argument is going to be nine I heard that Alan Dershowitz made in well be one of the worst of any maybe the Lord defending the President.

This is not obvious lot of factual analysis, years in the legal analysis and and now professor which of course known as a First Amendment work, among other things in his criminal defense lawyers well but I'm sure that will be the defense that will probably be raised if it gets that far into and that's the big question here does the Senate or what happens if they delay at 90 days. What happens today try to negotiate around this and just say get up.

It's behind us and get over what you think they have to accept. So I mean that's the part of the Constitution is that those articles are delivered, they have to do something with it. The question is remembered will be Chuck Schumer will be the majority leader.

This is a 50-50 Senate and this is a two thirds majority that's required to convicts of Kabbalah Harris and her role as a vice President at time and or President of the Senate has no role playing like a fit like a tie-breaking bill because it takes more than 51 so you got a situation where they would have to figure out how to deal with it and I think that if the house delivers this off this news for Ken. They could they dismiss it. Of course they could. I'm sure they could come up with rules and they stopped at the makeup rules they want to govern the impeachment trial, so could they offer updated a immediate dismissal. I think they could but at that point, I think it be too much pressure on the dinner at the problem I see is that if the Pelosi and the Democratic push this out of the house. There is going to be a trial and before that trial is going to be a constitutional legal battle over whether or not you can even move forward that trial. Considering this is a former President and the Constitution talks about active presence active officials and the only press that we have for someone who they tried who would trial began person had the ability to leave office and did this present at this point would not you would've already served out his entire term and left normally peaceful transition of power like that. He is discussed and so that had to be set up to battles.

Constitutionally, the courts and second in the Senate on exactly how to move forward with this trial because again, as you point out that it's not like that.

The impeachment we worked on where you got a number of facts because of information. These phone calls and transcripts. All those people that were interviewed remembered by the House of Representatives. Publicly, some privately behind the scenes at all that information coming to light and even that was for impeachment purposes.

Quick of this situation which only involved one article and really one significant charge could be rather quick. I guess on the due process side, but it would be 100 days later. The further you get away from the actual events. The further you get away from the house coming with any record at all which identity they will list their entire record would be the article of impeachment.

I think I get it just makes it so tough on the country I don't really care where you are talking about this. Whether you like to see the President preached and thrown out right now because of what happened or not. That won't happen. Under this scenario, and so what were going to be dealing with is do you want your U.S. Senate tied up for a couple of weeks at least 100 days after Joe Biden becomes President, which touted document doing it on impeaching a former President if you don't like Pres. Trump why you want to give him this kind of attention right out of the bad right at the beginning the it will, it will actually kind of be the discussion of all discussion because the previous legal battles that about whether not you believe it have this trial will have to happen before that hundred days, so he will be in the news.

Like it or not.

If you're Joe Biden or Democrat for the first hundred days of your presidency. It's good to be more interesting news did putting up over bureaucrats is the next CIA director, I would really get into the second half out of the block has been to the Palau by the way, govern ACLJ.org Facebook or to YouTube or to all the other social media platforms were on a make sure when you're there you subscribe on Facebook you following like you get notifications on YouTube just had subscribed and you hit the bell in this way, you'll get notifications that another 30 minutes to get into what the trial really looks like what the issues will be and how the process will move forward. What is it mean politically for Republicans as well as Democrats that a lot more to discuss the foci. I will look this is we control. This is been a horrific furnish I wanted to say, we need to pray for people that lost their lives, their family, this is horrific Capitol Hill police officer was crushed. Confederate flags inside the United States of America.

People wearing How sweatshirts in the capital of the United States that for decades. The ACLJ is been on the frontlines of protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member. Thank you. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and now chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice Jay Sekulow secular radio up of her talk about her sleep with is now breaking news, and that is that the House of Representatives has in fact issued an article of impeachment to the President of the United States significance in the House of Representatives, one count incitement of insurrection. They rely, in part, upon the 14th amendment disqualification clause in section 3 of the 14th member and it reads as follows. No person shall be a senator or representative in Congress or Elector of's President and vice President, or hold any office, civil military, under the United States and then it you go down it says if they have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same and given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof, and that is the basis upon which their doing it. The charges focus in on the attack on the United States capital allegations that the President of the United States and others were inciting this action. That's the basis upon which this is to go forward now to put it in perspective, this is a very different case than what I dealt with as impeachment counsel last year when I was dealing with the President's executive authority under article 2 of the United States Constitution and the conduct of foreign affairs when he made a phone call to Ukraine, the President of Ukraine that was a separation of powers case that was a article to authority. Case regarding the President especially comes to foreign policy. This is charges of incitement, insurrection, very, very different case. Now there will be arguments on both sides. The articles impeachment both and have been submitted.

What happens next. Yes it is tomorrow.

They can be called up on the floor of the House of Representatives, there would be debate on the floor, although it would not be in all likelihood, J nearly as lengthy as as a Senate trial and essentially at the end of the debate. If the House voted to invoke those articles of impeachment they would be ready to send over the Senate by Jay.

I think it's important and I know people know this from the last time around. It's important to reiterate this both the House and the Senate and then have a partnership role in how those articles get to the Senate. The Senate first has to be in a posture where it's ready to receive those articles and as it stands right now without unanimous consent. They won't be in that posture until January 19 at the earliest. Not even when they're in that posture, though J you talked about this a little bit but Speaker Pelosi has to decide when she actually wants to send the notice of the managers. The resolution formalizing the impeachment to the United States Senate and that is what what James Clyburn was talking about.

He said that even if they're invoked tomorrow or Wednesday. They may wait to send them over. But here I think is the key point on timing once the senates in the right posture and once Speaker Pelosi decides to send them over. By the way, if she does. Maybe she decides not to. If she does. If she sends them to the United States Senate. Then at that point of the Senate really is bound, they're bound to start the trial the next day starting at 1 o'clock. Now that they could offer a motion to dismiss and be done with it quickly.

Although Peter Schumer would be in charge of the chamber right now right then yeah I don't think that would happen so you would have a trial and I do think one final point on the timing just think it's important for people to understand the role of the and of a United States Sen. and you. You made this case to United States senators in the past they have a duty to listen to the evidence David duty to make sure that the charge is able to mount a defense and then they have a duty to make a decision there. There's really no wiggle room in the Constitution, for then that's their charge of the procedures are parsec for having that art are clear and Jordan really got less than a minute here torn. The procedures are clear. So there'll be no big deal put on their case to management and that if they do this and then the President's defense team would put up their case just like last rites of different lawyers.

The only thing I would say that were talking about something fairly unprecedented, which is that trial would be ongoing for a President it's Artie left office. I know there's arguments on both sides of this, but I think that that argument alone will be a separate legal challenge and we don't even know if the Supreme Court will get involved or if they will deem it to be up like a political question that the Senate has to resolve so will they have to resolve that before they even begin the trial that's that interesting to me that their vote. That has to be taken on that weather that they can do that under their rules. I think about certainly will be raised yet is another question whether discipline the presence out of offices of Chief Justice design. I don't think so. Under the Constitution talk about all this and come back the challenges facing Americans or substantial time in our value freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times.

The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you Knott's well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice defending the rights of life, we created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists.

The ramifications of 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the abortion industry and what Obama care means to the pro life many ways your membership of the ACLJ is powering the right to question your free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/for incitement of insurrection is the race against Pres. as I said, very different than when I defended last year on behalf of the President United States Senate is a completely different issue. That issue that I dealt with was a constitutional issue of separation of powers in the power of executive to article 2 of the Nazis Constitution about residency were successful on this is very different. This is not a question of Presidential power. This is a question of fact and law of the law is not this is a political from a legal trial and that is whether there was in fact leading up to the act of terrorism that took place in the United States capital watch that folks you seen it.

Did you see the vigilante mob violence inside the people's house. Did you see them breaking through the very floor of the United States Senate were I stood where Jordan stood where Andy stood respecting the institutions of that office even when we were defending the President that can anybody that is a patriot of the United States. Say what took place in the capital was okay as it wasn't.

Not only was it illegal was an insurrection against the United States was an attempted interference with the constitutional process. I remember when I was in this well about Senate and someone got up and started screaming the whole place came to an end and the security moved to remove the individual. I've been in the Supreme Court when someone stands up while you're arguing their case starts interfering with your argument. This was not that and also by the way illegal to these people were chanting hang Mike pence they were threatening to kill the speaker of the house and I don't care if your support of the President, a supporter of prisonlike binder supported what your politics are.

I don't care that was not right. That was dangerous for the country for my grandkids Lawlessness in the capital and I just hope and pray is this is fully investigated by the legal authorities about some of the house and the Senate split much politics we find out who did all this. What groups were involved and to the fullest extent of the law. They are prosecuted for rebellion insurrection against the United States because that's what what I've never seen anything like that in my life in the United States of America. Don't try to compare this to any other protester what took place on the streets of Washington. The summer when it to the capital to destroy property and kill people, people are dead because of this was not for a moment, start casting blame on other protest movements. Was it somebody else infiltrating the clear identity of who these people are is very well known because you find it by just going on right now social media bragged about it. They took pictures with their feet on Nancy Pelosi's office. This was a sad and dark day for the United States of America. Now the country is facing this articles of impeachment against the sitting President United States who leaves office in eight days. You have to ask yourself on that front. Assuming everything that they allege was true. Assuming it was all true, is a politically for the best interest of the country the right thing to put the country through this.

That is the real question here, not whether the cows can vote to impeach. They will go forward and introduced it with ascetic convict. I don't know there will be bipartisan support for this impeachment in the House of Representatives. I suspect what you think are absolutely without a doubt. I think there will be certainly at least one or two. Maybe more members.

The house the body had wined your study supports impeachment so unless he had some problems with this specific article. I don't know why he would not be coming on board as well as maybe some others that are not as well-known names necessarily, but then I think I we also know there is going better support in the United States sit, at least for the idea of impeachment. Now they are narrowed in a whole be the the phone their final determination based on what's presented to them. If that's what we get to but you know that I go back to what you just said we were still going to visit the country people are into. This keeps bringing it back not to not to cut. Bring unity or resolve but to create division. Like it or not that's what happens in a trial like this and if you continue this on for another hundred and 12 days talking about or hundred and 10 days and then the Senate begins this to me. To me it's just so damaging to the country that for whatever you care about Donald. From this or that what you expect, you know you would hope comes of this impeachment.

The truth is that think about your country first.

And I think their calculus has to be this, you Democrats and enough Republicans because that's what it will take you will take 70 Republicans if they can even try someone after that they have.

They serve their full term didn't resign serve their full term and an inner out of office if they can. Are there at 17. You're not so concerned about impeaching the President to get to work for removal because she's Artie God but is it that second point is it because there's so concerned that he has such a big movement behind him that he will has a good chance of running again at a pretty good decent shot at becoming President again and there so concerned about that and I hope that's not all just politics with David Kratz considered he would be a tough candidate if they so they'd like to get a bad way or Republicans say only be a tough candidate and so would I be nice to get down for about a right only when you make that goes. If you really believe what these articles allege is that is that this is someone who by that speech engaged in insurrection against the United States is also independent investigation going on right now by the US Attorney's office management for the DC Atty. Gen. in Washington DC Andy as to the people involved in this was not to be because those people are potentially guilty of crimes against the United States against the Congress, burglary, and that means simply entering with intent to commit a felony that doesn't mean necessarily, theft, destruction of government property, breaking and entering all sorts of federal and state dinner District of Columbia for local crimes the month or they might be guilty of and they know they are they've got them on tape. They've got them on video so the Atty. Gen. for the District of Columbia is looking at those offenses and I want to echo what you said Jay. This was a horrible day for the United States.

This was an attack on the citadel of democracy by people who have no respect for the Constitution of the statues. The laws of the United States taking shields and breaking glass and going and sitting in the well of the house, sitting in the well in the Senate chamber, see these horrible events that really do have consequences for those actors who committed them west me.

It was just a horrible thing.

We have not witnessed this kind of of an attack by citizens of the United States of the United States against the United States since the American Civil War and the timing of this was deliberate. This was not a riot was not a demonstration they attack the US capital as the vice President in the Congress are counting electoral vote.

That timing is is not incidental.

Many of the demonstrators carried plastic cups because their intention was to take the leaders of our nation and and keep them as hostages and handcuffed them. They actively sought for the vice President apparently in order to execute him. This was this was unconscionable and Andy's right they need to be arrested. They need to be prosecuted and they need to go to prison.

The America we simply do not tolerate this kind of lawlessness and insurrection. The seriousness of what happened last week, can't be overstated. No, that this is obviously it's a whole different is a whole different level of issue here, and I know some are saying there other than what we do with the police adequate to do this, obviously not. I mean either scenes of of of police officers opening barricades. I came in figure what that was police up again. I will close on the place I wasn't there. They were overwhelmed obviously but the lack of preparation for this is another mess that has to be investigated and I think that the Congress is doing that, but as we get to the last segment of this broadcast new article impeachment against Pres. United States. This is not about foreign policy are called to inform leader.

This is an allegation. Allegation of excitement for insurrection. Now remember, the house can vote to impeach, but at the set. The trial takes place in the United States and as Jordan said earlier, requires two thirds of the Senate to convict organs.

They live on Facebook and YouTube will be going to this break so we can answer some the questions that are coming from you, all those black only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life.

We've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the abortion industry and what Obama care means to the pro-life in many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right to question your free copy of mission in life today online/challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now sort of constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

But here's the bottom line we could not do her work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times.

The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. Well, this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ bag were talking about what is now happening, which is art an article of impeachment has been raised against and filed against the President of the United States.

The allegation in this is incitement of insurrection.

My understanding that is theirs.

About 200 and something cosponsors yet sounds like the vast majority of the Democratic caucus.

We don't know exactly because it's just been introduced in the house and houses and pro forma session Saturday cosponsors haven't been posted yet, but Jay I would venture a guess by the time they come in regular session tomorrow. I'll be surprised if every single Democrat member of the house is not a cosponsor you think of the Republican coast not cosponsor Republican voting in favor of Adam Kinsinger has already indicated that he is inclined to now that was before this text came out. So unless there's something in this text that he does not think appropriate that they mention the Georgia situation Jake. You know, maybe that could push them off it. But if I had to guess I would imagine at least he is in favor of this.

The limits and that that the phone call the Georgia Secretary of State Outlook during the break we were discussing what is the political issue here and I think the political what why would they do this for the present coming out of office and just literally eight days and convinced it's because they want the think it goes to the Senate as it comes out of the house and goes to the Senate for trial that the penalty is that you can know if you're found guilty is that you can no longer hold an office of public trust in office in the United States means that Donald Trump not run for President again and my sense and your new you said this earlier my senses. That's what they're trying to do right now to get there.

You still you gotta get to 67.

The question is that added penalty in the past they have done that after getting 67 on impeachment they done that without majority vote. They haven't required a 67 are two thirds vote and again I think that the big question is did they really actually get 17 Republicans because of where when this trial would actually start hundred day, especially if Clyburn is right there talking about the hundred days in scenario 290 minute earliest point they could take it so that they because then you sent daily really get a day to turn around and make a decision at the U.S. Senate on the trial so but there talking about this hundred day delay so that would be something that I guess they would vote on well it depends, and this is a shared responsibility between the house and the Senate day.

They are in a posture right now to be notified of the articles Jordan, but they're not in a posture to notify the house that they're ready to receive the managers and there's usually some back channel conversation about this other soon as they can be in a posture to receive is the 19th but Jordan. They could be preparing between now and then and quite frankly they they would have some communication with Speaker Pelosi on Windows articles would would come over the mandate on them is that once they do get the articles they have to convene the next day at one to begin considering the matter, but if you if you remember the last time around. And I know you do. There was actually a little bit more of a delay because they came together in a bipartisan fashion to try to get a resolution for an organized trial. I suspect that would happen again but but but the mandate Jordan is that they can't just artificially push it off they have to meet the next day at 1 o'clock unless they come together and say look in order to give adequate chance for both sides to present their case work and started you know a little bit later date certain. There's not a lot of wiggle room. There they can still set their rules but it's not like they can just ignore it. Once they receive the articles less witnessing. I think people of all all sides agree this is not good for the country and my question is, is it necessary because he does leave office. The inaugurations nine days away. What were witnessing is a political calculation. What I wish we were witnessing is the calculation of what is good for the country instead of asking how can we keep Donald Trump from running for office again. How do we punish Donald Trump.

What is the best thing for the country and and I'm not sure I know the answer to that but that should be the calculation, not a political calculation even though impeachment is a political act and this is in no way is to to detract from our minimize the seriousness of the allegations are being brought against the President. I I'd I just wonder though. I go back to try to look at the country and were trying, in which the election was tumultuous and was allegations of all kinds of irregularities and we went through all that are ready and it was litigated fully in the courts and then it was no brazen state legislatures and then finally the big lectors are selected, and finally the electors estate and then the lectors boats are delivered to the capital, then the incident takes place in it.

It's stressing the Constitution and that's what it's putting stress out. Fortunately, this play in the joints for this route that Constitution can take stress, but you can't take what took place last week did actually I think maybe the most important words uttered that night at about 8 o'clock at night when Mike Penn said let's get back to work I have to really say my pens to the truth and his job as a President of the Senate and the presiding officer is vice President of the United States. I was most impressed with the sobriety with which he took control of the situation at tumultuous situation that he was facing and he and when he said he finished and he prayed for the country and so forth. But then he said something important and you just repeated it. Let's get back to work and he went right back to counting the electoral votes and opening those ballots and that's with the employment.

The Constitution is resilient. The Constitution is not going to fall apart. It is not. In tatters, it must not ever be in tatters. This is the greatest republic that is ever existed on the face of the earth since the Roman Empire and I think it's very important that we recognize that fact. The fact that we have got to maintain our constitutional form of government. As Benjamin Franklin said a Republic madam, we have if you can keep it. This is going to be the test of whether we can keep but we kept it on that day. Even with all the horrific tragedies and loss of life. The Republic survived but my goodness what a horrific moment in history. I would take the last two minutes, and when to go to Jordan first met when everybody kind of sum up your kind a sense of where it is Jordan recorded a dark time and I think this will make it that much darker. Unfortunately, because it will re-divide the nation, who will give me talk about whether speech and words is that enough to impeachment and not focusing on just kind of moving forward.

So I think in the worst elements of the supporters of Pres. Trump. This just fires them back up and and and the President has. I can only say so much, and a lot of his communication abilities have been shut down so he can make this lease as a stop, don't do this please don't do this, stop doing this age over you but eat, but he does have the same way to communicate as before because of the actions of the social media companies so I believe that's to me is that were down to focus not on just punishing those wrongdoers who were there in the building responsible for murders responsible for destruction of our US capital tried to interfere with the constitutionally sanctioned electoral count with the vice President the room and every member of Congress, but instead going to make this about politics again, this is not what I what I always get back.

I don't like to make a partisan but but this is Nancy Pelosi's world we live in an and she is so partisan on every single move so it's all up that it divides us again between Republican and Democrat, and is this just Nancy Pelosi trying to get Nancy Pelosi has wanted to step since Donald Trump took the oath really quickly. Only 10 seconds like I think the Republic was attacked by anarchists on Wednesday.

I really do and I think we need leaders on both sides of the idol, including Pres. Trump including Speaker Pelosi to be the adults in the room and get us to January 20 with in the past we've been in a crisis is brought the nation together. My prayer is that somehow in all of this will bring us together and this behind us and grant us peace. I think that's really good right in the prefer country preferably result that they would have God's was an let's pray that God bless and protect United States for decades the ACLJ has been on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena.

The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member. Thank you. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ


Get The Truth Mobile App and Listen to your Favorite Station Anytime