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Democrats Pursuing Impeachment with 12 Days Left in Trump Presidency

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January 8, 2021 12:00 pm

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January 8, 2021 12:00 pm

Democrats Pursuing Impeachment with 12 Days Left in Trump Presidency.

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12 days left in the trunk presidency. Democrats are pursuing impeachment and some Republicans talk about that today. Jay Sekulow 15 Washington DC phone lines are questions right now.

Yes, you heard that right 12 days left to go present trumps term and after you released the video yesterday say the peaceful transition of power and you don't it's Joe Biden will be that express United States. It is very A simple video term straight terms to the American people. The because of the actions that they believe he incited and it's mostly Democrats. Sure floated this idea of impeachment but it's got Republican public support from at least one house member Adam kids in your ads and one US Sen. Ben Sasse said he would consider river the house in peaches and the Senate tries and the convicts or quits and bid sass has said that he would. You would consider I can voting to convict Setser wanted a Republican US there right now the makeup of the U.S. Senate because you got what one sees a couple of seats and art art filled so if 51 to 48 because that one seats and so two thirds would be 66 when that seat is certified, it would be back to 100, and it would be back to the normal number of 67 to actually convict that you may be asked the question.

Could this even happened in 13 are now 12 days well edited and data we would usually that would not be the case in the normal impeachment because you would have a long period of time. The house and then on us or I'll but I would have to be there right they can bring articles for.

So I think it would be a gigantic mistake to institute articles of impeachment when President is to be out of office in 12 days, so why divide the country so significantly when the President of fact is going be out of office in 12 days so that that to me is whether you have the constitutional basis to start impeachment proceedings Congress as long as they voted they can have the authority but then you have to ask, it is not a good idea for whatever the purpose is, and then getting it over to the Senate for trial.

If a past article impeachment on Monday. Damon session for Monday. They will they will. BJ will be on Monday.

Yes. Okay, so maybe maybe maybe they're in session Monday, the past articles of impeachment they can get them over to the house.

The Senate and at what's the rule on that.

So in the House of Representatives. Gemini could bring love and vote on then basically as soon as they wanted to Speaker Pelosi would push that.

I mean, she probably has the margins in the Senate look at the IIA. I think the Senate could bring them up as soon as possible, and you know typically what a Senate impeachment trial looks like better than just about anybody, but I think you're the key message. Your days is to Democrats. The call has been for the President United States to pursue healing.

The question for Democrats is, does introducing articles of impeachment now 12 days before the midterm. Does that advance the goal of the healing.

I think there's only one answer to that one. I guess I would listen to the assistant, House Speaker Democrat Catherine Clark as speaking on behalf of of the Democrat party in the house 17. We can use procedural tools to get articles of impeachment to the floor for a house so quickly. We already had Chairman Jerry chair, judiciary committee, saying that he will use those tools to bring the articles as fast as possible. When is that will be as you know early as next week if I was Joe Biden. Okay, I would say don't do it. I would say don't do it. It's good to divide the country even more. The countries unbelievably divided and the risk factor of of impeachment but is never to be there for the trial because the liver of a trauma Senate with four days to go. That's the other question I guess we will get is was was good at what what could happen there because I get some cinders are expressing on the Republican side. I don't know if it would get to 60's. Five. Full story really entitled to due process right so we will take your calls, 2064, 31, two challenges facing Americans are substantial time and are now free to sort constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ on the frontlines projecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress to get in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn, called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right to life question free copy of mission life today online ACLJ/security of this Jordan Sankyo so this is what word targets very seriously.

This is not a a something is a possibility.

I think at this point I would say it seems very likely, and less like your say that lessor like President-elect Joe Biden is pressure on Nancy Pelosi did not take this because of the risk of nonviolence, the risk of further dividing the country kind of playing into that almost maybe playing into the hands of the other side of the just tried to look for anyways constantly to punish Pres. Trapani threat, even the last 12 days as you like what he said at his speech, which at which you get a moment 12 AM if you look at it though. It was me. I don't think his midweek. She would be talking about what's in the past among next Tuesday or Wednesday would be six days left.

Yeah so I mean then that because obscene the house could impeach, but how would it get to that the Senate in any kind of timer that there'd be a trial if it was a shorter trial. II really don't think it can Jordan for a couple of reasons, and let's start with the political one, just the logistical reason of Wynwood leader Schumer theoretically take control of the United States Senate. You got the two races in Georgia that are now both conceded the judge Jordan are not certified and until those new senators can show up in the United States, certified by January 15, dated January 15 is the deadline for counties in Georgia and the Secretary of State has until January 22. Now that could move quicker. Your absolutely I would say that that's what I like. It was a question agree with it until they show up with the certificates in the United States Senate. You have a leader, Mitch McConnell, so he's the one that would have to determine when those articles of impeachment arrived when they would be on the floor of the Senate. Now Jake went we went through this and during the last impeachment.

Rather, certain requirements, the Senate has to take him up the next day, but then they they work through that formal resolution process to govern the rules of debate do you think that leader Schumer and leader McConnell are gonna be able to come up with a set of rules with you.

Now I don't know, eight, nine, 10 days left in the session to govern impeachment quickly because I don't and so until leader Schumer has control of the Senate. I just do not see the Senate been able to get up and rolling on this quickly so I had think that that's the Democrats. The question, what are you looking for are you looking for in pink teacher trial or are you looking to incite more unrest is what they're looking for. Looking to remove the present United States with like yourself they're looking to remove Donald J transfer as I week where I usually would hundred percent agree with that, say like there's no way you come up with rules Mitch McConnell's wife resigned from present trumps cabinet because what he did what he did what she believes he did and caused with his speech as she resigned so there is some again I'm not saying is right or wrong is talk facts here, there are Republicans who, especially the Senate who believe because of present trumps actions over the last six weeks or eight weeks since the light since the general election cost of the U.S. Senate and I don't think it's always about that date.

Candidates have to all run their races in and in Georgia again. It's really it was it was candidates who were who I got beat, but certainly you could say that there's a lot of weird stuff happening that call that was released with the Secretary of State saying you gotta do this or you might face crimes and in an and I I just wonder if you get enough upset Republican senators to where things might move quicker and then you look at this. Look at the timeframe of the Georgia counties just yeah I think you got me out of people. So did God.

They Are certified by January 15 so technically, which is what day the week January 15 is a Friday Friday it's it's next Friday. Next Friday today's the I yelled in the questions going to be a certified and on Friday.

Could they see if the McConnell could be out of leadership and like you said, that may not matter. They have until the 22nd.

They don't have to go to and 27. We can do with the strength of certified Secretary of State. Once he receives a certification from the counties on January 15 could certify that very day or the next day could be the 16th and they could take their oath the 16th of the 17th and at that point Mitch McConnell is no longer the majority leader that only gives 2 1/2 days that that would be anything that's another point that even if it was on its quickest timeline ascendant trial and less again, Mitch McConnell ensure while McConnell was in charge agreed and got the movie.

It had to wait until Schumer was a charge I don't see how you could set up the trial. Well, I mean how would he have a defense in the trial in the Senate have to allow the present time daddy to be one think that would be really not right.

But here's the problem, then the President is impeached and just takes into things are so there is a mean that the problem here is if they're trying to abate.

Here's the problem with the whole thing number one to move it in that space of time to me just seems a bit reckless regardless if you think they please or impeachable offenses are not because is only 12 days left the President to serve so make they know they can't get it together until at least next Tuesday.

Yet so the dish then your week out, so why would you put the country through that when the man's term is over with and you got the ultimate victory. Your empiric candidates in the present United States. This is a question from Eric in New Mexico. His psyche goes this point. What if you teach your never acquitted or or convicted Eric welcome Jay Sekulow life and how involved with reelection in 2024. So how convicted might suggest it just means he was impeached and not convicted, and they did not bar from serving in future federal offices. Although there is this talk man that there is some way of doing some kind of censure or something that could bar him from federal officer slapping floated yesterday this morning.

Yeah, I'd I don't see any constitutional mooring for that J just to be real honest with you I mean yes if you're impeached and convicted. You are barred from seeking federal office and that very likely could be the motive here for why you push this but again I come back to the stated goal of healing the nation J I I don't agree that that is the goal. If you were to pursue either impeachment or even look like Lucite. Honestly, even the 25th amendment that doesn't heal the nation. If the President is saying I'm committed to a peaceful transition of power and that's what I'm working towards. J.

In my view, anyone who would bring this up and try to push it rather than letting the President do what he has said he is going to do that is someone who's not looking for healing that's looking for someone that would it would want to stir it up again will the nations divided. This will divide us even more. It illustrates to me just health tone deaf Democratic leadership is to where the nation is they need to quit dividing us politically racially in every other way. As long as they seek revenge and one-upsmanship, which is what this really is is going to continue to divide America is like their tone deaf to where half of the nation is a mean look at the problem that you got here is that a impeachment is not illegal argument you make legal logs out of place. What is a political process, and because it's a political process think they just handled completely differently and weeping from what we know. And I mean there's no way you could adequately compare prepare a defense.

But we have a question about what what is Mike say this because what would you be defending Mike in Nevada online for the we should explain why we we obviously say their drafting these we not seen those yet like welcome to Jay Sekulow live like all about.

When you make it hurt. A President can't give the street and there were 11 siding any violent speaks of what grounds are they trying to impeach him on what they can say that that speak that their argument will be. Remember Mike they don't have to repeat a legal standard. Their argument will be that his statements and actions while in office incited a an attempted takeover of the United States capital which resulted in five people being killed including Chapel Hill police officer and they will assert that when the President said when it was the line in the speech will we have that the answers go down to the capital and try to turn that it I'm not saying it's a late development say all of this and the speeches that took place before right about that. So that's that were inciting all of this in and what was said denotes combated. There were others that said so that I hello and I would go back to her that you go back to since the election yes he is. But it's been building up to you and then holding the rally, deciding on that dance, bring people to Washington DC again.

I don't think there was anything in his specific speech, the words of the use having going to say go go protest outside the capital.

In support of what the pop up menu.

Republicans were planning to do which was to object to some the states. He did say go invade go. He needs to go inside. He didn't say breaking windows. If no Republicans there was any time for any kind of rule changes right now but tiebreaker would be my pants for Fred to grow some if they were trying change Leslie could do it quicker and this is out of fence go through 60 vote for not we get into that coming back in excitement. But I'm Catelli the spokes that the talk is not just talk to me. III expect that there are serious I think it's the it's dangerous for the country with the housing person which is a few days left but nevertheless that's what the proposal and I think they're the real person could step in here is Joe Biden Job I could step in and describe the only person closely with they would say they would stand down because of it is causing too much division. He would want to start of his presidency with more the streets only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable and is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of weighing 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the end what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right question for copy mission in life today online/challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now free to sort constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms that remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you for your thoughts. Well, this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ God where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ Jay Sekulow lively taking photos 164 30 122 that she because we had callers call in on this talk and they've asked you what with specific articles be ill had Omar is released like a like a draft of what her articles be hers start with the allegation of of the present trying to overturn the Georgia election base of the phone call with the Secretary of State that was released.

I think it would include the up and article 2 is inciting violence Wednesday which is what we expect to see some of the Judiciary Committee. I don't know. She currently serves on the Judiciary Committee or not I but it but again it did that just she's going to help out, but we've Artie got it from the speaker, Nancy Pelosi said on the 25th minute as he is were doing it while in the other problem then is empty the house speaker which is a Democrat. Also we just we play that something I said he could do by midweek with the other problem that we have as we have a Republican Sandy in the House of Representatives willing to join in on the impeachment that would be a terrible that is what they are saying that and I'm I'm hearing at Kinsinger. I think he was the public was very vocal about it and I thought I thought about some of those together but this would be like what happened with Nixon when finally it was too late because the Republicans went over with you Scott, from Pennsylvania to the White House and said Mr. Pres., it's time for you to resign his law support among the Republicans. It could be such a groundswell that this would happen in the leadership of the Senate with McConnell and others would go over the White House and send Mr. Pres., I don't. It's time for you to go but who knows. I don't think that is where it's at me.

Night unite looking at the political winds can change about the fan on this way I'm reading it right now it's it's not this groundswell of support. There are Republicans that think that what he did was so egregious that it violated his oath of office and that will probably go along with the impeachment but I do say were at the number were Nixon and Nixon was midterm.

It's a whole there's a whole lot as a whole lot of differences here, but are you getting any sense from the hill where this is this a 2011 issue which was what they are there tagging out there.

If you know if the present. If the vice President does initiate 1/25 amendment removal were to do this. That's not gonna happen yeah no JI think the groundswell of support in DC is actually behind the statement of the President from last night where they they didn't think that the President needed say two things you need to say that the violence was totally unacceptable and the Joe Biden, Harris were to be inaugurated on January 20 and he said both of those things J so I think that gave Capitol Hill, at least on the Republican side, a great deal of comfort and I think that's the date that they are aiming for a look at I I know I don't put anything past Speaker Pelosi ill how no more, and those in the house. I think those articles are probably will be put forward and considered that.

But assuming the President sticks to what he said last night, there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't JI think that's where the vast majority of Republican members in both the House and Senate are they not Democrats when he accused the President of inciting on Wednesday. Well I think the same accusation would come back at them. If, with 10 days left her eight days left or whatever, it is a put forward articles impeachment. I can guarantee one caveat is that I think one caveat here where we try to be a bit unrealistic here. Mitch McConnell's wife resigned herself. Her cabinet post genius you want to wait the two more weeks she resigned.

I wonder how that calculates implant. I think it is calculated. And I mean I think it it lowers the ability actually to invoke the 25th amendment to she's known longer a member of the cabinet and look I go back to what Jordan talked about on the logistics of this the only way you get a Senate trial going is bipartisan cooperation, because her honestly, regardless of whether his leader Schumer or Lena McConnell in order to be able to receive those house managers, you're gonna have to have bipartisan cooperation to get it going JI I don't think it's off the table. That's not what I'm saying.

But what I am saying is I think the members who are concerned here what they wanted out of the President was what they got from him last night. So if the President stays in that lane. JI think we'll get to January 20. That's that that's kind like this report is if present, trumps days of that message should be played piano for I think we should, because we keep talking about it. I think that this is the message and what dance is important if you stay on this message is going to Camp David this week and so should be a fairly quiet weekend and you stay on a mess at that kind of the menu, not trying to call people to protest.

It's kind of again it's wrong or right. You just I'm talking about why they wouldn't do it. Take a listen I like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the United States capital. Like all Americans, I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem. I immediately deploy the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders. America is and must always be a nation of law and order, the demonstrators who infiltrated the capital have defiled the seat of American democracy to those who engage in the acts of violence and destruction.

You do not represent our country and to those who broke the law, you will pay. We have just been through an intense selection and emotions are high, but now tempers must be cooled and calm.

We start we must get on with the business of America. My campaign vigorously pursued every legal avenue to contest the election results. My only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote in so doing I was fighting to defend American democracy.

I continue to strongly believe that we must reform our election laws to verify the identity and eligibility of all voters and to ensure faith and confidence in all future elections. Now Congress has certified the results.

A new administration will be inaugurated on January 20. My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth and orderly and seamless transition of power. This moment calls for healing and reconciliation.

2020 has been a challenging time for a people, a menacing pandemic has upended the lives of our citizens isolated millions and their homes damaged our economy and claim countless lives defeating this pandemic and rebuilding the greatest economy on earth will require all of us working together. It will require a renewed emphasis on the civic values of patriotism, faith, charity, community and family. We must revitalize the sacred bonds of love and loyalty that bind us together as one national family to the citizens of our country, serving as your President has been the honor of my lifetime and to all of my wonderful supporters I know you are disappointed, but I also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning. Thank you God bless you and God bless America. That's where were saying for that kind of message and we have significant coming up on the evening of the library and get your cause a lot of phone lines are busy rust. We joined by Georgia State representative of Vernon Jones who is officially yesterday became Republican and I think is probably the kind of Republican that we need across the country, especially lately, Georgia I to kind of that's in the race that seek the warn act one only for two years so is a special election to fill the vacancy left so will be another Senate race in Georgia and in and in a couple years and in or not will be optional. Talk to Ed new new Republican state representative of Vernon Jones of Georgia and will take for your phone calls explaining these issues as as as we try to walk you through what could be happening these last 12 days before the next President is inaugurated to kinesiology.org is always will be right back. ACLJ is been on the frontline protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member thinking.

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Let me take Paul's call right of the bat because we are talking about again. It's been clearly put out, and I think you probably heard about in the news but occasion just doing this for a second if I should resent Nancy Pelosi speaker the house said.

Basically this if if the cabinet and along with the vice President is Beverly had it does not invoke the 25th amendment and remove the present house will move forward with impeachment. That doesn't take very long to the house to do that. Remember it's you get impeached by the house and you tried by the Senate so that then the we played for the deputy House Speaker Democrat as well say that they could they think they can get it on the floor for a vote to impeach by midweek next week so were talking like Tuesday Wednesday of next week and then it would be over to the Synod out with their actually be time for trial. That's it huge? And and it looks unlikely because of the number of days left just to get the logistics down because it has to be a trial has to be two sides making arguments, but again she said it by the 11th cabinet cannot be prepared to move forward with impeachment. Then her deputy House Speaker double down on it. We can use procedural tools to get articles of impeachment to the floor for our house so quickly. We already had Chairman Jerry chair, judiciary committee, saying that he will use those tools to bring the articles as fast as possible. When is that will be as you know early as next week. Let's talk about fundamental due process or from Amanda because he was not fundamental due process no matter what you think of the presence actions are you really think it was Ronnie Fink violated his oath. Whatever you think it might be the articles of impeachment delivered on Wednesday or Thursday and he is leaving office on Tuesday, which he said he is will how in the world you have due process you don't use simply don't and regardless of the estate on them as the rightness or wrongness of the cause of the present and the fact is that anybody accused of a crime or hear high crime and misdemeanor, which is according to law what the house is at any given time. It is you nonetheless is the defendant in the accused in the case have the right to prepare your defense in one day or two days or three days may not be enough to talk about it. If this is the defense of all defenses. The defense to remove from office and convict the President of the United States.

He certainly entitled to have time to have his counsel prepare his defense.

Dante would also is not right is not right that they would impeached, knowing that they will never get to a acquittal stage think you were talking about that and that again will just incite the country or absolutely will you know not everyone despises Pres. Trump and even those who do not like some of the things he's done or his personality would not be for this and I think there even some Democrats who, for the good of the nation would see the folly of doing something like this, but many of the Democrats, especially their leadership.

They live in an echo chamber. They assume they assume incorrectly that most Americans are going to go along with this, and agree with them and it's totally false thoughts. So again I think we come back and have state reps inverted to a Jones. He is the new Republican just officially became Republican and the state Georgia where truly the Republican Party is looking to rebuild and figure out exactly what happened in in obscene states changed didn't really change it up to where it's gonna be Democrat forever. I mean that that it said some at the blue state. I don't think so. I'm not even sure that it's really a real live purple states if you have good candidates but will talk about that with him and he he was Democrat I support a present from the earlier, but officially became a member of the Republican Party at the state representative, which is right now the Georgia house represents a ring talking about that and as well because also it's important that you know to look for now is repetitive, seeing what it what is taking shape. We know what to make of the Senate will be. We know at the hospital look like we we know that there's elections in two years. That will determine the house and the Senate and the majority's their Lexington Senate Jordan. Right in thinking that even that seatbacks will talk about that we come back for Jim challenges facing Americans is a time when our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontline protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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Now if you're strong Trump supporter. He's going that he is not contesting anything any every lawsuit that was that there was one basic remaining in Georgia Hold a minute with Ed it was dropped. He's he said the fight defrauded as long as he could into everyplace that he could and that was that I wasn't successful. So again I want to go to Paul Georgia line 3 Hippel are you, thank you for taking my call. I have an observation I been listening to you and to Jay speak I get comments that that why would they want to divide the country. Further, why would they want to try taking action now, the President, leaving no less than two weeks just my personal observation and Nina and I'm not on that at their best, they wouldn't care if the country is divided further and, at worst, may be looking for an opportunity to do so I just my observation upon just wonder if this is a moment where the were Joe Biden as incoming present United States says you know what I need to be strong as I disagree with what the presents.

I asked that that I think it was wrong.

I think it was exciting I think was horrible.

You loose all the horribles out Lisa but for the good of the country to put the country to another impeachment.

Certainly not to put since the present did receive 75 million votes so half the country basically supports the President when I could have a become a sham impeachment and becomes Jim impeachment not because they can't wrap articles in the house and pass them but he would not be able to defend himself adequately in time. The miscarriage of justice in the name of seeking justice, which is absolutely crazy. I think if VP Biden, the President-elect does not come forward and step into this and show leadership and call off the other Democrats. I think it makes his his promise of bringing healing and unity somewhat hollow guide.

I don't know. Again, where whereby Ms. on this cabal harasses, I would think I would think that you would not want to start with another war. The streets now. I don't not 100% it would cause that maybe people after what happened. The capital has kind of said, okay, enough is enough. But I'm not 100% convinced if they make moves like this that you don't start saying that build right back up again and that that most Americans made at L care where you are.

Politically, most most conservative to the most liberal I do not want violence in the streets and that this could very well cause that if the President still has enough back for people to go and become violent in the streets after or even take to the streets, that they would maybe potentially amassing the air all go to be violent, but would protest the rep they could turn violent. Does he have enough support to even have people shop for four protest.

I don't know that either. What I do think you be risking severe division and" and maybe again the Democrats could be risking their majorities in the House and the Senate. Now that's true, you know, the idea is Joe Biden really needs to step up right now is the President-elect and then no doubt the President who's going to be inaugurated on January 20 and say look before talking about healing the divided nation, and it is a divided nation votes. The President received a substantial number of votes. A lot of people don't see that his and went to look at his legacy the tremendous things he is done in the Middle East. The tremendous things he is done for the economy. The judges that he is appointed to the conservative courts that he is created in the circuit courts of appeal in the district courts the speed with which we were able to get a vaccine. All of these spearheaded by a man with foresight and vision and who has done a great deal. You really want to divide the nation in online in a last-ditch effort to repudiate him and to impeach him when you can't really even do it within a period to give him due process to complete his defense is that healing the nation is that dividing the Commonwealth is that rather uniting the Commonwealth or dividing it. I think that's wrong, and I think that we ought to put this behind us and move ahead with a new administration and a blue look on what the United States is got to be and going back and getting revenge because that's what this would be by the Democrats on the President is not the thing to do regardless of what he may have said, regardless of what the natural and probable consequences of his acts may have been the other day. The idea is not to divide, but to heal and to unite. That's the important thing that we have got to do and impeachment proceeding here at the 11th hour in the last days of the administration of Pres. Trump will not do anything to heal and to bring together it would be wrong.

I would think you just think that a again even if you are straw strongly believe that the President should be removed from office. If you take all that I think that the 25th amendment option that a cabinet would see more resignations so that the votes don't seem to be there. Also, the vice President is that put out through the added space even reported that he eased. He's not going there is a sense of these interested in doing with this matter days and then so there's that that option and that this really doesn't seem like an option anymore, and then you look at the timeline on this. I dislike it doesn't really begin whether you think it should happen or not. I think gifted look at the ramifications. What are the ramifications of of doing this in the house and did not have enough time to even mount a defense and be acquitted or convicted. They just it's it's it's our to save the words can let that hang over in someone regardless of how strongly you may feel if you feel like he should be impeached. Yes, it's talking to both sides here is that the kind of precedent you want to set these precedents, retirement.sitting presses where VP tries to take away electoral votes. We hear that that would be bad to try. We would want VP picking who present next President is so again it's that exact same kind of thing to me. It's that he said Congress certify the results a new administration. I grade on January 20 we put it we would play the full biweekly the shorter by gigabyte six I think it will even notice. Now Congress has certified the results. A new administration will be inaugurated on January 20. My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth and orderly and seamless transition of power.

This moment calls for healing and reconciliation in that situation.

In my view, that means that he has to do that and not in you know not stoke anything up and the Democrats should be Congress and also of not stoking which kind was what you were saying.

Everybody needs to take it down a notch. Because we just went through a horrific 48 hours for the good of the nation they need to do that in and out. I would think Nancy Pelosi lost a significant portion of her majority in the house and many of the moderate Democrats felt betrayed by her and AOC and the others, and many of them lost their seats.

I think if if they don't look at the political calculation and they would go through the impeachment, even if it only stayed in the house in two years. I think she would completely lose her majority in the house because moderate Democrats would pay the price in the American people would not support this by large folks. I think that Joe Biden though is also host it, he kind of encourage this innocence and he has had to impeach yet is it said that is said not to but take a listen because he did. He did kind of throw some claimant soon so if you will, on the five a race of fire up the field by Stiglitz by 15. Not only do we see the failure to protect one of the three branches of our government.

We also saw a clear failure to carry out equal justice that was talking about comparing it.

People who invaded the capital were treated differently than did the black ice matters.

Protesters that I think one of the reason why is because we now know that the capital police think they rejected Canales a luminescent support. This is an amount that would take some on what the Kenite, with all due respect to the capital police. My office across the street or office.

What the heck was that I died. I cannot explain can I ask and I don't want to be nasty because they have protected us in the past.

So I guess the guys on the list, not the guys on the line. Why in the world were they opening up the barricades. Why them over the leading people to the right of the Connecticut grill landing.

They had the guys at The siding would've put out the refuse the National Guard weeks before they could have the National Guard there weeks before no one would have gotten killed. No one would've been able to invade. It would've probably looked like some of that how it did with the black eyes met a protest tear gas fired pretty tough you National Guard troops in you ever fired tear gas you have. It was like I made at the it was after the National Guard came in clear. But they were willing to be there is a sugar arms refuse to me does look like a double standard when you look at it does double standard. And also I mean let lead to the desert.

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He will be gone and again you can like that. Not like that's part of politics and tell you can believe believe is many of us do that. There were a lot of wrongs in the election. Things that were not done correctly ended. It could've turned the other way if if the laws were followed as they normally are, but we were not successful in court and other attorneys would successfully court and it was was tried all over the country, state legislatures did not seek new electors.

They could've hit enter wafer courts or Congress to act and and now it will be present. Biden so will the we have vaccines going out. Hopefully by you don't fall it will kind of feel normal again the country about school and things like that don't work but it's not right now, you're still country is pretty locked down with covert pretty raging. Actually, throughout that that the country and and and in that of course affects the economy affects people's ability to work in and that affects just people out. Yes, it is school going to be open is always a huge question. We still are dealing with those cases at the ACLJ on behalf of parents at no cost to them because they literally keep changing constantly. It's especially students, have any kind of a special needs and also I think it's a time where listen, you don't have to like Joe Biden's politics at all, but II just hope that after a very tough campaign that Joe Biden as President-elect has a big role to play here to and he can either keep throwing fire on oil, gas, and the flames.

Or he can tell your body to call Dennis some that will also be you know there early to do that if the President continues on that committee. That's no I think it's a two-way street. I only had a President has to do that present in the President-elect could do this. Elaine Anthony said about smooth transition orderly transition time for healing.

That is what the message needs to be by both the President and the President-elect and present elective said that now. It's now you got pressure coming from his flank. This is what we were worried about that you worry about is got the left flank, which very aggressively here so the questions can be can he withstand the pressures. I think Joe Biden in his heart of hearts knows that impeachment would be a mistake yet ASAP it was night. He does not want to start off his administration still focusing on the former present. Now they want to make an appointment because it's not good for it's it's it's just I again, look what it did to present truck because he was forced to with Moeller hatband Obama. What Obama was doing and what the what Joe Biden was doing and and that spying on on his campaign and then impeachment sobbing. He was kind of force to have this overshadow him for three years go by, does not have to have Donald Trump overshadow him for that. At the beginning of his term refers four years, but if it starts off like this. I think it does. And you you may you may be in a sense re-creating the movement that you just you know you just were able to be in. You may be read re-creating it and then have to face it again so in the midterm elections in two years and then in four years as well. I think that that's where I get ideas language like this. If the present, whether it's Twitter estate within its language like this by date, we must revitalize the sacred bonds of love and loyalty that bind us together as one national family to the citizens of our country, serving as your President has been the honor of my lifetime and to all of my wonderful supporters I know you are disappointed that I also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning. Thank you God bless you and God bless America. Let me just say something right here and I want to get Wes and Andy to comment on this and that is that's a good statement, but that has to be not only a statement has to be reality so you can have a tweet in our that says they stole the election of stoking a back up again because system stuck it back up again in my view, yet he doesn't need to ever go back to that kind of rhetoric and those kind of tweets again. He needs to use these next 12 days to stick with what he said and to let the nation heal. The other thing I think about Jay that when all of this drama over possible impeachment are foreign adversaries, to say nothing of our terrorist enemies there watching this disunity and distraction for the next 12 days.

That alone should move Biden and Pelosi and Schumer to back off and to let this transition take place without further drama thing Pres. Trump is done a fantastic job in the four years he has been at present United States.

I think that he would and may go down indeed in history.

In retrospect, is a great President in the terms of the judicial appointments that is made in terms of the peace process in the Middle East. This is a huge thing in terms of his relations with Korea, which we haven't heard from the defeat of vices. The kinds of things he is done with the economy the stock market is now over 31,000 points yesterday. He still the President. The creation of jobs the fact that America can hold its head up high in the world again as a power and a leader. Those things cannot be forgotten and he cannot fall back again into the rhetoric that got them into the mess in the first place. Let's not divide, let's unite okay let's let's go back on the back of fan on this because cannot unit my view is clear. I mean I thought my pants did what he had to do under the Constitution, the only thing he could do. I said that was the right thing. I disagree with those people that were saying that you could.

The vice President could basically determine the election. That's does that not seem like 100 years ago.

I mean that's the prize like 100 years ago now were dealing with this realistically on the hill, and I know you got limited staffs and they got limited staffs and at what is the body picking up about this impeachment thing J the honest truth is, it depends on exactly what you were just saying I think the vibe on the hill is that there is a significant share duty, not a duty on one side or the other.

There's a significant shoot shared duty on the part of Pres. Trump and President-elect Biden to say luck, there's a transition of power coming and we are getting jointly move in that direction. J yet you had a call or minute ago. I think his name was Paul, who said that he doesn't think there's gonna be that leadership from leader Schumer or Speaker Pelosi, J. I agree with that. I think we've already seen that they are not capable of carrying that mantle.

This has to be Pres. Trump and President-elect Biden and and and I think Joe Biden has a big role to play here. I think he should echo the President's remark from last night.

If both of them continue on that track.

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I think the vibe on the Hill will be working to get to January 20 and have a peaceful transfer of power as we always do in the United States government lit listen, this can go either way. There's since I continue to say this, I had the people of this today for the unit to just consider. I think a lot of what happens next week. Will there be impeachment of Joe Biden kind of save to Nancy Pelosi your bind seems not the softest.

She's also gave her suffering not to do it.

If you listen closely towards his and 1/2 since a weird deathly hundred percent pretty close but but there's room there I think is a two-way street and that the President has to also continue the same message. He's used since last night is to continue with that messaging and if I think that's the way kind of move on as a nation and we can all move forward for the battles that we will be fighting against each other, but battles we fight in legislatively debate through elections not in the streets for decades.

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