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PA Court Says Election Chief Had No Authority to Change Ballot Deadline

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November 13, 2020 12:00 pm

PA Court Says Election Chief Had No Authority to Change Ballot Deadline

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November 13, 2020 12:00 pm

PA Court Says Election Chief Had No Authority to Change Ballot Deadline.

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Breaking news in Pennsylvania courses the election, she had no authority to change the ballot deadline proudly came in late should be tossed talk about that more today on Jay Sekulow live live from Washington DC. Phone lines are open for your questions right now called one 806 843-110-1800 68412, your host, secular Jay Sekulow lives we break right out of Pennsylvania. This is not the supreme case which by the way this day still stays in effect, that is a state that was issued by Justice Alito.

He's referred it to the full court that is the stay on the late incoming ballots.

The ballots that came in after election day and after that time I fuse 8 PM Eastern time in Pennsylvania was ballots that were supposed to be segregated and he said they could be counted, but they should not be included in the vote total. He's issued an order on that and he asked the various counties and precincts can use did you do this, did you sort them and put them aside and most did not. So there's an issue there. This new case out of Pennsylvania does not relate to that. When you talk about the how all member I keep saying help you build enough cases from enough states where these become outcome determinative.

So where the Supreme Court if they were looking for cases that have or six cases at a four states that if they decided on a present from side it would change the outcome of the election.

So we got a second case out of Pennsylvania which involves at least 10,000 votes and potentially many thousands more. Let me just read it to your Pennsylvania judge ruled in favor of the Trump campaign late Thursday ordering that the state may not count ballots were the voters needed to provide proof of ID and failed to do so by November 9. State law said that voters have until six days after the election this year. That was November 9 to cure problems regarding a lack of proof of ID after the support Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that mail-in ballots could be accepted three days after the election day, the Pennsylvania Secretary of State just submitted guidance on a road that said proof of ID could be provided. Up until November 12, which is six days from the ballot acceptance deadline.

That guidance was issued only two days before election date of the court in Pennsylvania concluded that the Secretary of State in her official capacity as secretary of Commonwealth lacked the statutory authority to issue this is quoting the court November 1, 2020 guidance to respondents counties board of elections insofar as that guidance purported to change the deadline for certain electors to verify proof of ID.

This was in line with the Trump campaign's argument which which was that there was no basis in the states law to extend the identification deadline, the court had previously ordered that all ballots were voters provided proof of identification between November 10 and 12th should be segregated until a ruling was issued. That ruling has been issued and it and the judge there judge Levitt has said that those ballots shall not be counted. Those ballots shall not be counted. Folks, we told you this has to be a buildup. So there you go. That's at least 10,000 could be more were still trying to figure out the that the total that will be but is no less than 10,000, and it could be significantly more than you got the other big case of the Supreme Court in Georgia, a filing from true the vote in an additional filing coming as well. There were to be talking about on the broadcast today but thank this is what we've been talking about throughout and there's also course to look at the voting machines as well that case and to potential cases there and research into that we could talk about how to has to become a groundswell of cases from across the country that have to come together and combined when they make it to the Supreme Court become outcome determinative becomes the electoral college. It's the advice you been giving Jordan to stay patient to let the evidence be gathered presented and heard and then ultimately at the end of the day. A decision will be made during that process is is moving forward.

I think all Americans should be confident and quite frankly I would hope that all sides would be would be glad that that's happening. I don't expect that would be the case with Jordan. It's what you said all along, stay patient. The evidence is good to be hurt in the right decisions can be made this a matching challenge with the ACLJ we're involved in all these cases, we've got a lot of other work going on talk about as well support our work. ACLJ.org is the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom detecting those uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful.

Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge every dollar you donate $10 gift you $50 gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ the work we do.

Simply would not occur without your generous support to Courtney in our matching challenge make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms you forgive today online okay only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right question free copy of mission life today online ACLJ/Jay Sekulow this is Jordan secular. Let me encourage you again that we have a matching challenge both in November and we are in the midst of many legal battles.

What is protecting. Of course, your election integrity.

If the ACLJ and we do have a role in that your a lot of people I don't want to be confused yes my dad and I and some other members at the ACLJ separately, completely separately. We represent the present in the in his personal capacity. So we are attorneys for the present United States and so we are looking at the cases that way when they make it to the Supreme Court were also going to be looking as they make it their way. This report, the constitutional challenges the ACLJ would always make like equal protection of all voters. Your vote is counted. The same way as someone else's, and they are not your votes not being canceled out by the illegal vote to really looking at all of that all the rules being followed. That's what we do with the American Center for Law and Justice keeping governments whether it's federal or state or local election officials keeping them accountable and were doing that at the American Center for Law and Justice. At the same time. At the same time, folks. We have now assisted 1380 families have been assigned attorneys and these attorneys were able to help provide assistance to help all those families during this covert, 19, and education issues. We were able to do that at no cost to represent so far in their still coming in. Folks, we at we had about 2000+ come in. Some were handled very quickly. They would even be in this count. Others weren't appropriate for the ACLJ. Some people are just upset about show you at home learning, but they didn't need X actually additional assistance for these 1318 families 1380 families than we provided we were wheat we got schools to ins districts to provide Internet to the home.

The tablets they need the electronic equipment they need the IEP the individual education plans and figured that out including meeting with tutors and teachers at home or other locations as well as special needs students.

So, for if there was an economic situation. A childcare situation. The tax situation food. Also food delivery.

We were involved in it. We have been involved in those assistance and of course, for those students with the individual education plans and specialties that should not be left behind during these covert school shutdowns toward real solutions for real students with real needs in real time and I and can be more proud of the work that the ACLJ has done on this just a couple of areas that I wanted to particularly highlight you mention the IEP. This is something I'm very familiar with and about individualized education plans. These are students with special needs. Jordan, who the states and localities have a legal obligation to provide a specialized education services to those children that was not happening. In many cases during this pandemic. We were able to rectify that situation for very many students and again I get a personal attachment that some very proud of our work in that regard. The other thing Jordan II think it was very important for us to lay this mom this marker down, moving forward into this pandemic. Obviously, the election is is in flux right now we don't know exactly what restrictions are gonna be in play been torn I think was very important to put these localities on notice that they will not be permitted just because of an on a pandemic just because it may be some localities are shutting down again to walk away from obligations that that there are that are theirs to provide educational opportunities to students look every every situation is gonna be a little bit different and I think that's the role that we been able to play.

We haven't gone in and said it's one-size-fits-all knowing and in fact weaves that every state is a little bit different but were going to advocate on the side of a student who has a right to obtain an education so that works in and continue Jordan I'll just say this, it's gonna continue no matter which way the selection goes with we talked in an earlier broadcast about how you know some of the new restrictions that might come down a door and if that were to take the pilot take place. This work is gonna become even more important as we roll forward. Absolutely, 164 3110 Marion on Facebook right into Pennsylvania. Separate the bouncer came in late, after the Secretary of State's decision or is it just a muddled mess that were going to be determining that now she was ordered to do that earlier and then they were able to count not include them in the official count and what this court is saying is that all of those ballots and they should be able to figure that out. They should if they modeled it there in real legal mess will be back before the US Supreme Court about tossing even potentially more ballots but if they didn't do that separation Marianne then they've got a real problem Pennsylvania and that's when you start looking. I don't get too deep into it. That's when you start looking at whether or not the actual vote and could even be considered legitimate and should it go to the legislature.

Well, this is you know, the state official door and had a legal obligation to do the requirements under state law and the segregation is required under state law.

If it didn't happen is to be very difficult to determine whether or not they were able to meet their obligation and Jordan Laminack. I know I've said this several times. This is why I was so concerned on election night when we saw so many of the tabulation stop in and cease because it just created room in margin for doubt ins and for questionable activities to occur. You know it it if these if this segregation was happening Jordan all of the other vote should have been continued to be tabulated so that we knew in a very short order of time what the outcome was and there wasn't a question about whether or not anything was being tampered with. But you're right tournament. You gotta see if there was an error made if they did not file state law. Is it an error that could be corrected and if all of those ballots had been mixed up.

I think it is a very open question whether or not an error of that magnitude could be corrected now okay again and you you preach this consistently throughout this process Jordan that that doesn't necessarily address the core question of whether or not there are enough of these issues to be outcome determinative but I got to tell you of the state where it would be make the biggest impact, toward being outcome determinative. That's without a doubt, Pennsylvania or go back to phone 2000 684-3110. By the way legal challenges have been filed by true the vote in Georgia and we heard for a good friend. Great attorney Jim Bopp that additional legal challenges may be found in Georgia that would be the first real legal challenges since right during election day where they were trying to get some of the votes stop that that did not work but that but this would be the essence election day in Georgia.

She got some litigation there and then Jim Bopp who will bring it. I'm sure in excellence argument into Georgia and and he let us know about that.

So that is coming were to talk about that more. The second half hour to continue to share this broadcast with your friends and family. You understand the coordination that were doing taking all these cases together and then as they make their way to the US Supreme Court. That's kind of our task. Whether it's the test ACLJ protecting your constitutional rights or in our out for a private capacity protecting the Presidents and present trumps rights as a candidate for present United States and this is a key time.

It's a great month to support the work of ACLJ. November is a matching challenge month. Think about all the work we've been doing legally think about what we been providing you through programs like bald eagle on George Washington on the electoral college. Again, that's all available to I believe in there that still going to be coming.

There's more coming with bald Eagle is just starting for kids at kids programming. So, explaining that explaining why we have the electoral college, and ending at and I think that was so assume key to so many people need understand that ended. Of course, we've got a brief filed this is going before the Supreme Court of the United States.

I've got my hands right now about in this is out of Tennessee actually's amicus brief in support of the petitioners in this is a key Tennessee pro-life case during the covert restrictions when they said, well, no more medical procedures that are necessary and they defined what was it wasn't necessary. Tennessee said that most abortions would not be necessary. Not all there some that are I guess medically necessary, very small percent of what you have to choose between the life of the mother or the or the child should be up to the parents for that but that was challenge. Of course by Planned Parenthood and now that's being appealed to the Supreme Court.

Here is the ACLJ right here is you could see holding my hands. This brief file because were asking the court to hear this case. We are still battling the pro-life issues at the state level all the way to the Supreme Court were still battling. Then we filed comments with the US Department of Defense as well on protecting life in global health assistance.

Tell people about that yet, to my hands right now been filed out of this office. Great work done by Olivia Summers. Here in this in this building.

I know you're filing those later today Jordan, but essentially the trump administration expanded what our listeners probably are no as the Mexico City policy. That's the policy that says US taxpayer dollars will not be given to foreign nongovernmental organizations for the use of performing or purport promoting abortion as a method of family planning the trump administration. Jordan dramatically expanded that they expanded it to include not only grantees and subgrantees, but also a contracts that were awarded by grantees of US taxpayer dollars to it took the application of that Mexico City policy from covering $575 million of funding to covering $8.8 billion of US funding of the rule that were filing on today.

Jordan is sort of that. One of the final phases of implementation and implemented at the Department of Defense at NASA and at the Gen. services administration. So great work right up to the end of this term. Jordan and of course you know if there is a change. This might be something that we would have to fight to defend but either way right up to the end could use the trump administration for for for for making these rules in working to do everything we can to support and there certainly justified Jordan under US law that presents plenty more executive orders as well as we speak we come back.

Our special advisor Rick Grenell be joining us talking about the important work of ACLJ as well. Of course election update from him support our work matching challenge you double the impact your donation. See all the work is with the matter minute ACLJ.org donate today only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you personally. Publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later, planned parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership abuse is empowering the right question for mission life today online ACLJ/the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad with Hertz defending religious freedom. Protecting those faith uncovering corruption in the Washington neuropathy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge every dollar you donate $10 gift gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ. The work we simply would not occur without your generous take part in our matching challenge make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms you forgive today online ACLJ welcome back to Jay Sekulow life also will try to most of you listen by radio or Sears six in the world over thousand eight OCS while you're watching the broadcast.

But you know we we put it out on all of our social media at the Jay Sekulow Facebook page a gets the most viewers right now and an and bots you. We also were on periscope on twitter periscope on on with parlor and were spending that out, and it's also it's always been on YouTube through ACLJ.org. We've opened it up on YouTube and right now there are would see having people 3700 people just since we open this up on YouTube and we have not promoted 3700 people watching on YouTube.

I want to welcome all of them to Jay Sekulow live and are video our live video broadcast of the program and I want to thank especially old Mr. Young dude prefer for making that donation that he wants to help the litigation. Thank you so much Rachel you put on YouTube. Keep fighting for the integrity of the election. Angeline also a super chatter said keep fighting.

Those are all folks who made donations and were going to try and read those out as best we can, that were getting a lot of people watching on YouTube. That's the official ACLJ YouTube page that I wanted to write to Rick Grenell because Rick were really busy at the ACLJ. First I wanted update from you on the election, but I think the legal challenges are exactly the strategy at this point and what is missing. I think from the media narrative is that there is nothing more democratic than having a system that allows legal challenges and so the idea that we shouldn't be able to follow legal pass because it's undemocratic is exactly the opposite in in free countries that have a democratic process. There is a very specific legal process. I say follow the legal process and that's exactly what were doing nothing screams more democratic and celebrates democracy than following the rule of law and having at your disposal. The courts to find legal challenges with a thoughtful presentation that unemotional and nonpolitical and so you know people on the left who are screaming that were undermining democracy should really take a step back and read more about what a democracy is all about and what the rule of law is all about. I spent 11 years at the State Department.

Jordan and I have to say that when we talk about the rule of law and we try to place others. We always say follow the Constitution follow the rule of law.

Now that's different than the norms of Washington DC, which is what the media and the left always try to say that this isn't normal for Washington DC.

Let me just say that nothing is normal. In Washington DC they don't like transparency. They think American people are down.

We need a system that is much more transparent and much more willing to follow the rule of law to the end and that's what were doing and and let me add, I can't ask people and not to support ACLJ because what you all we are doing and I'm and I'm proud to say that I'm part of the family.

What what I'm proud is that you all jump in immediately to help and a lot of times we don't have the resources to do that people get overworked, we could do so much more if we were able to hire and and do it more officially. I love the fight that everybody has ACLJI love the willingness to volunteer and jump in on every legal fight, but we need to formalize it more so that we can do more and that's what were asking our friends and our partners on YouTube and Facebook and any Christian radio station that's listening.

I just want to personally say that what we're doing at ACLJ is amazing work is some of the hardest work is it detailed in your down in the bowels of fighting legally and creating briefs, but this is the rule of law. This is how we challenge and a lot has been done to advance our system and protect people's rights by appealing to the courts.

Right now Rick we have a matching challenge the ACLJ and appreciate you saying all that you been with us now for a couple of months it's been a while couple months to say the least, but but you know one thing and then we haven't had a we had some time with you to be able to really talk about national security and your work is that the acting director of national intelligence as a cabinet member and and I will see how the election results ultimately turn out. We may have more time to talk about that with you as a member of the team, depending on on how these cases turn out weave a matching challenge right now and ACLJ.org. If you do it. Rick said and you donate whether it's five dollars right now ACLJ that or that's effectively tin for us weave a group of donors that say we will match every single donation that comes through the mark in the month of November so that was crazy 900 times match text that you're getting.

It's we have a group of donors that say this month will match every donation that comes in. So if you donate five box that's really like 10. If you donate 20 that's like 4050 is like 100 and there's not like a limit to that.

The timing is what's important.

The month of November and were in the midst of more battles than we usually would be in this time of the year.

We talked out that the legal issues. Of course, involving the election right now representing 1380 families because of all the school shutdowns we do that and absolutely no cost would be able to get them assistance from technology to the food, the Internet being installed. Their home all at no cost. These these people all asked the school for help. They got no answer. ACLJ got involved.

I got letters from a law firm and suddenly they were all being assisted that is ongoing as we speak it ACLJ.org/help were involved in a pro-life case up at the US Supreme Court right now. We filed comments on life and with the Department of Defense. We are still working very aggressively on Capitol Hill as well.

Rick finally though II just just to get cut to get your impacts of people kinda know we saw the case at a second case of the Pennsylvania courts now are tossing aside another group balance. We think it's around 10,000 but it could be more. Another case of the US Supreme Court could affect you. 20 30,000 ballots. I mean this is the way this will have to work legally as the states build cases up to the US report yeah and and let me talk a little bit about Nevada because yes, we have a problem in Nevada where a machine that is designed to check signatures to verify signatures to make sure that the person who turned in an anonymous ballot is actually somebody was alive and a resident legal resident of Nevada and able to vote that machine has proven to be and this is not just political people say that these are experts and the Clark County officials themselves. That machine has been lowered in terms of the factory recommended settings to match because they're trying to push through balance as fast as they can. And so there is a there there is really the fact is 200,000 ballots have gone through this machine in a very suspicious way that we believe need to be hand counted that a case that that we are fighting right now and I know ACLJ has given us great advice on that end and we appreciate all of their work. Let me just finish by saying you know, it's amazing that that were fighting for people who can't go to school and are fighting against the public schools.

If we had more money we could do even more than the 1300 people. I just hope people understand that this legal fight is worth it necessary, and please be a part of it, folks. I think Rick for that and for being with us and for being part of our team. It's great to have poor cabinet member master to Germany. Our team and asking for your support W impact your donation post the month of November and ACLJ the Lord is the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be now $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 could make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you and your family. You forgive today online okay live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and now secular.

Let me first think everybody listen to her broadcast right now on radio on Sirius XM you make up the vast majority of the millions of listeners we have, but we also broadcaster showed portly, so online every day to TV quality broadcast so that it can be clipped out so that you could go back and use it because the guess we have a like Rick Rundell who wasn't just on by phone but was on by video she can go back and see but we can also click that out share of social media and provide this for you. And of course we know the way of the whirling others. About 10,000 people watching on Facebook right now I want to welcome it because on on ACLJ.org. We used to use YouTube to broadcast the show as well, but we did what was called wasn't open which means you couldn't find the link on on YouTube. We now open it up the last couple days and right now there are lineal consent 6200 people just the last two days of opening this date are 6200 people watching on the ACLJ's official ACLJ's YouTube account or live radio broadcast 6200 people watching and again you add those numbers up your talk about close to 20,000 people on a Friday after again I could understand in the Masters on and there's been a lot of talk about these cases and covert and other issues in and a lot of frustration with the election is still just shows you the impact for making online and think about the impact were making on radio right now with literally no less than a few million people listening right now over 1000 radio stations and serious XM for a full hour to get this information. I want to go really get your call soon but I want to go to Harry Hutchinson is destroying us because Harry I want you to break down for people. The significance of this, a Secretary of State case in Pennsylvania were where the judge ruled that ballots should not be counted.

This was about, not just late coming ballots that the Supreme Court case for the stay on this was about allowing ballots to be cured, and now the secure ballots need to be tossed aside absolutely certain this case is essentially and fundamentally about the rule of law and the Constitution.

Essentially, the secretary of state for Pennsylvania has issued guidance on two colonies, allowing them to allow citizens to cure invalid votes three days beyond the period required under a prior court decision and under the statutory rules so essentially she gave guidance telling counties to allow citizens to cure their ballot. Otherwise, their ballot would indeed be invalid if it was not cured three days beyond that. As specified, so extending it from November 9 to November 12. The trump campaign filed suit and a judge of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has issued a ruling disallowing the counting of such votes now clearly beyond question.

Those votes alone are not outcome determinative. However, it's likely that the vote totals around 10,000. And so if you add those votes in with other challenges that are outstanding. They could indeed be outcome determinative in Pennsylvania and so I applaud the judge because she's done what she has followed the rule of law as opposed to following the women's and arrows of outrageous fortune which has been pushed by a large number of political types. If the decision by this judge is appealed, it would go to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. Is this the kata case that the ghost of his surveying the Supreme Court he can ultimately go to the US Supreme Court for because of this election issues. It could be because you argue that the failure to adhere to the statutory rules constitutes a violation of the Constitution U.S. Constitution. All right, let me think carbon on YouTube for super chat saying thank you and and those people donated sent to let us know that that's her calling Mount Madeleine on YouTube. Send a thank you sticker to us and William on YouTube send a super chance of thank you all. As we open up YouTube is well with over 6000 or more of you watching just their will be right back. The American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge every dollar you donate $10 gift gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ. The work we simply would not occur without your generous take part in our matching challenge make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms you forgive today online ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn, called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of weighing 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right to question your free copy mission in life today online ACLJ/Jay Sekulow live or take your phone calls. Now what hundred 6031 two year just on twitter through periscope and through a parlor there 700 people watching on YouTube right now there's 9100 watching are the broadcast and on Facebook 10,007 you add those numbers together you're talking about.

Again, over 20,000 people watching Jay Sekulow live that does not count the millions who are listening right now to Jay Sekulow live on the thousand plus radio stations brought as well as serious XM so let me think that all of you, whether you choose it through terrestrial radio Sirius XM Christian radio conservative talk Facebook periscope through Twitter periscope through parlor or YouTube, which we just opened up these last couple days. Thank you and I welcome than those you might be new on YouTube actually seeing our broadcast syringe start take your calls. Now we been working through all of the different issues going on right now the end by the Supreme Court filing a brief there.

I will talk about that on life. We talked about for me to but I want to get your calls Nelson Mary Ellen Illinois Maryellen's always great caller and I love take your calls and questions here. He Maryellen actually a number of email checks coming to me, urging people to send a letter to the presidency at the U.S. Postal Service with the words verified that thought. My first reaction was, well, that's a nice letter of support that states are in charge of their election is not the President and client to keep take) some hard evidence from people who have the information and put those two dollars.

I think that they need to write their own governor and state legislators to do whatever they want him to do in charge of cleaning up the election will be a lot of emails right now there's two on three things two main things. One is is the election support fund legal fund to fight this election and you get that for the trump campaign then you get kind of letters hey will you support the President and this I don't know what group sent that out. That's kind like a petition is not bad to let the President know if if they're not asking for money.

Some bad to let the President know that millions of people stand behind him in this but but then we've also got a petition that specific, I think it's better than what Maryellen's describe at least what she's describing for people that want to make their voice heard on this issue because we understand who it needs to go to absolute first by love Maryellen. She understands the process you well look at me that this is why we been given this message from the very beginning. Jordan states are in charge of the election process and if there was fraud.

It would've likely happened across a number of different states, and in order for it to be outcome determinative. It has to occur across are a number of states of you can't just have one blanket approach for challenging the potential fraud in various places you got to apply the specific state law to each situation and see if they complied with the lightning during the various cutouts in the states and you know this better than I do. But there they're not the same in all of the states and and and plenty of them could be valid so you have to see whether or not each state follow their process, so I would say two things to what to Maryellen one, you know, messages of support to the President or anyone else will be fine but if you are trying to impact the outcome in a very estate, you do need to support a petition like ours or a state-based effort to actually impact that state. Preferably your states outcome and how they handle and make sure they follow state law because if you live in Michigan and you're trying to apply Michigan state law to a Florida election. Your nest is not gonna work.

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They can lead the charge in the trump campaign the RNC that worship attorneys private lab legal team.

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Here's how you know if you're really supporting their legal effort to get the email looks like it's from the RNC and you click that you want to donate to take you to a site called when red.com WIN red.com.

That's when you know it's bidding legitimate to the Republican Party nationally in your money abuse. The way that you're donating for so look for that. If you're looking for to the support like these legal challenge efforts specifically because I know you're getting flooded with these text the other big texture getting flooded with. You are are about the runoffs in Georgia and those are those are huge as well. The next segment where you get update from Stan on that as well.

But I do want to take another call John in Florida is on this new Pennsylvania case which is huge. John, welcome to Jay Sekulow logger on the air. Question I'm confused about the battle. There, at first I thought it was a battle again. Extension of of allowing balance to comment.

Now it sounds like it's about allowing identification of the content.

So what what's going on two cases of Pennsylvania so this three day late arriving balance is at the Supreme Court already there's a stay put in place in order put in place by Justice Alito because he is the Supreme Court justice that oversees the circuit to Pennsylvania is in so he is put in an order that says you have to segregate those late in coming those late ballots three days and you can count them but you can't put them in the total vote count and that is now up before the entire he's referred that the entire Supreme Court that is separate then John you're right there's two cases. It is more in Pennsylvania than to put these two main cases. This case was about correcting your your your vote by not by showing your IDC would to vote you didn't have an ID and you got an extra what was it said six days so it was held November 12 to suit.

I mean, nine days after the election to correct your vote in this state court has said John those votes should not be counted. Precisely. So I think it's very very important to keep in mind that there are several layers of litigation ongoing simultaneously. So I think it will be difficult for many observers to keep track of all of the litigation. But what we are talking about here today are two separate pieces of litigation and were primarily focused on a Commonwealth Court decision which is grounded in the fact that the secretary of the state of Pennsylvania has issued guidance to county boards of election extending the date by which voters can cure their ballot which is defective.

Those ballots should not be counted pursuant to the law of Pennsylvania based on my understanding and a judge has issued an order to that effect. However, that order will be subject to appeal to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court as opposed to the US Supreme Court. But ultimately the decision could wind up with the United States Supreme Court.

To the extent that all of these cases become outcome determinative first in Pennsylvania, but then we also would need to see successful litigation and other states as well. Okay settings that were to do everything we can each day of this broadcaster explained to you what's happening legally we can get to every case with the ones that are most significant and inherent. Let's let's get to the one at a Georgia so in Georgia, an organization we know well true the vote has filed their about the voter rolls.

The number of votes he came in, but a good friend of ours, a great constitutional law attorney and a great defender of life as well. Jim Bob let us know this morning. He's looking at expanding on that lawsuit tell people about that is the first time we've really seen some new active litigation in Georgia on the election as they are doing their hand recount absolutely. So if you look at the Georgia case. Essentially, what we have are credible allegations.

So, based on available evidence. So far, there is a legitimate suspicion of illegal voting that justifies a thorough investigation of pull list to determine whether there are sufficient actual illegal votes which were cast to place the election results in doubt and so that could place in doubt.

Certainly the Presidential election, but also David produce election to the United States Senate. In other words, he might not have to face a runoff. If this particular case goes forward. So it's very very important for listeners to understand that at this particular stage. We have credible allegations and we are not we, but Jim Bob's organization is planning on litigating this to make sure whether or not illegal votes were cast and then whether or not those votes were outcome determinative, but only in Georgia Alastair Lewis in Colorado quickly and six I can answer this question quickly for Louis a Lewis, I pipetted my donate online. Thank you so much and I want to know ballot date on them once they are counting want to go through the process is a update on them so that they need to be pulled out, the people can see. Okay, this came in on the legitimate.

In most cases, let me just answer quickly. There should be, because if that even if electronic you then take your form and then you put your forms or machine that should be dated, should be able to segregate if they can't swear to get into real legal trouble with the Supreme Court and the think about whether or not the vote itself was legitimate in total we got to that point yet, but I mean that that could be one of the problems that arises if they don't have that system in place, but they certainly should got another segment coming up to take a lot of your calls again. Thanks a rifle watching from the different platforms take more of your calls 100-684-3110 will be right back only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of 40 years later, planned parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right question for mission life today online/American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom.

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It is to be a lot of fights ahead as well. They were preparing for the Kyle on YouTube said that the Joe Biden gaffe saying the quote we have put together voter fraud organization used in court and he made that gap Harry but I let's talk about real allegations of fraud Michigan your home state.

So we talked Pennsylvania. We talk Nevada today with Rick and now I will talk Georgia with their legal challenges in a recount and Ellis get to Michigan. Absolutely. So Mr. Cohen is a case study in fraud.

Historically, so even putting aside this particular election.

Michigan has a particularly bad history, but I think it's important to look at some specific incidents in atrium County. A software glitch caused at least 6000 ballots to be counted for Democrats that were actually call Casper Republicans similar glitches could have affected many other Michigan counties as it has been reported that 69 of Michigan's 83 counties use the same software over 50 Michigan counties, including Wayne County and Washtenaw County had more registered voters than eligible voting citizens. Of particular relevance here.

Wayne County registration rates were hundred and 7% that's very very important because that's one of the largest counties in Michigan, Washtenaw County, which is also another sizable County registration rates were around 113%.

So this alone raises the suspicion with respect to the accuracy and the validity of the election. In addition to those problems. Some ballots were counted.

Apparently multiple times and GOP Chairman Rama McDaniel has detailed 131 affidavits and 2800 incidents documenting fraud and other irregularities. So I think it is clear beyond question that although a lot of attention is deservedly on Pennsylvania. Many observers ought to look at Michigan as well because that state has been rife with fraud.

Historically, you know, I know my dad was actually he just texted me. It is in the air and he he was just on a call with with Roderick Dana from the RNC. I was a call.

There's a couple days ago. She is very engaged in the battle as well, but to let you go to that allegation. We are at work were you with the RNC chair on on these issues when we get to his many more calls as we possibly can I let's go to Ashley California online for hey Ashley McCall real quick that they think all that you're doing directly to Lynn to go to get actual real news that the intent to point here with all the computer program for the government to spoke about on the mail-in ballots that are coming in late and you don't do different possibility of fraud are we looking at a streamlined way of getting this to work in, and lastly is your ultimate goal. The 12th amendment to use each legislator estate to actually win this election.

The 12th amendment issue. It's out there it's illegal it's it's an option but that's not where this is right now where this is right not to carry the best way to explain it.

Is it when you talk through like Michigan talk to the two major cases at a Pennsylvania one breaking light last night, on balance, it will be tossed out another where there's a stay on that the late ballots. It could potentially be tossed out as well. Nevada Rick when I was talking about your time at Rhonda McDaniel needs these allegations as well. It's combining all of them together in basically what would be a super case before the United States Supreme Court that would ultimately keyword again the outcome determinative.

If they determine that the challenges brought by the Trump campaign, the RNC or the presence attorneys are local state parties altogether were that they were the they were the winners basically may side with them.

That's the kind acacia building right now. The 12th amendment issue is separate from the court issue absolutely so I think one of the key things for listeners to keep in mind is right now the various lawsuits are attempting to adduce credible information and then in court. They will seek to prove their case and they will have to proven the burden of proof will be on them to show that the election results so far in Michigan in Pennsylvania in Georgia and elsewhere, perhaps Nevada.

Those conclusions in those particular states are indeed invalid one because there are insufficient votes in support of VP Biden and that might be enough to change the outcome of the election. At the end of the day to prevail at the United States Supreme Court. You will have to prove your case, I think, to the satisfaction of at least five justices of the United States Supreme Court.

But right now, many of these lawsuits. They are in the fact-finding stage at lower court levels of the lower courts are the finders of fact, it let me take final call of the day.

Kimberly and West Virginia very quickly and I thank you for all non-sorry couldn't get every call they lot of calls came in. Kimberly R will be complicated or anything out with was just jumping there was covert. There's a probably grand jury's there's election.

I do think the Durham did a disservice by not putting his report out because he saves in the report, which is weird use attorney but he did a disservice by not doing that before the election and and enough time before the election. Suddenly he was impacting the election. I still don't know what to expect out of Durham now. I'm just not quite sure, but what I do know is this. There will there will likely be changed if present, Trump remains in office. If these legal challenges we win the day will be changes the FBI there will I do believe there will ultimately be accountability that Joe Biden becomes President. This all dies out.

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