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Called to Racial Reconciliation

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October 16, 2020 2:00 am

Called to Racial Reconciliation

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October 16, 2020 2:00 am

Dr. John Perkins saw and endured horrific racism. On one occasion, he was beaten and tortured in jail. But God convicted him of his own hateful reaction and inclined his heart toward racial reconciliation through the gospel. God used his 2-year-old son singing a song to bring Dr. Perkins to faith.

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In the 1970s as a relatively young Christian John Perkins had gone to a Mississippi jail to bail out friends who had been arrested during the civil rights protest instead of bailing them out. John Perkins found himself in jail and he found himself meditating on the words of Scripture that said do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. And that's what started happening to me when I was in a jail and was taught I saw evil and those white then I thought about that lot. If you let matters jail night.

I like to preach a gospel that can save us together.

This is family life today. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson and Bobby pia can find us online@familylifetoday.com John Perkins has something to teach all of us about how we can pursue racial reconciliation tear down dividing walls and become one in Christ will hear from him today. Stay with us and welcome to family life to a thanks for joining us to get a chance to hear from my hero today.

Those folks who aren't familiar with the name John Perkins argument get introduced to someone who has demonstrated for us modeled for us what it looks like to pursue racial harmony and racial reconciliation within the body of Christ. Could there be a more appropriate topic at this time think we need to hero anything that came Anthony, who hosts family life's unfavorable odds podcast which is part of the family life podcast network had a chance to visit with Dr. Perkins recently. He lives in Mississippi where he has lived most of his life and she in her conversation with him just spend time reviewing God's work in his life and helping all of us. I think understand the realities of racial prejudice in the deep South, certainly, but throughout America and what it's been like for Dr. Perkins to to live through this. He was born in 1930 so it will work oriented IV and what will hear a couple segments this this first segment organ hear from Kim and Dr. Perkins just takes us through the early years of his life growing up in rural Mississippi. Dr. Perkins as of this interview, you have just celebrated your 90th birthday and your 70th wedding anniversary. Congratulations, thank you, thank you so grateful than it is 70 years of ERA and every day I weep in gratitude Haggadah been so lucky. God has been good and you've seen a lot, and you've been through a lot, if you will will you take me back in time to what your world look like when you were born in rural Mississippi that my mother that when I was seven months so she dad and I live out of flower taken a milk she needed for her said I would probably drain and at out a satellite. She sought a gave the lie she dad and I live. I think this greatest motivation and climbed up and father that day when I see a face-to-face and hopefully we can have a conversation and I'm excited about it. I want to say well done and I probably take that from 17 so honorary doctor's degree got this horror lactic Academy award of preaching. Chuck Colson, award of all that Wilberforce award for my lifetime work. She now sure nothing much about that.

She will ask me what I do for people like her. After she dad later lived down the street saw me as skin and bone and she brought up automatically every day to my house that milk save my life. My mind was safe to rest another thing got that milk save my mind but I dropped out of school out summary about the third and fifth grade and but that was my dad's first active member in a house of our little bootlegger than gambler, that would be like a dove house today a lot of chair and Lotta cousin and born out of wedlock and all of that in the community and my aunts didn't get married but had a baby. My cousin and I love them dearly about the first thing I can remember which product plan in the house all of us and I probably said because they was calling out mama mama and I memoir my aunt say your mother did fail totally alone.

Dr. Perkins came from a family of sharecroppers, which was far from lucrative, to say the least. Sharecroppers system was like just step up from the slave system at a young age. Dr. Perkins would learn the hard reality about the economy and how it work for black people in the South became a son of economist when I was a wall about 11 years ago. It was during World War II. I worked a day almost full day for white man who asked me in the back to work with other Govinda I have been at it work in buddy that he had a succumb to the kitchen.

You couldn't come to the living room black folks had to go into the back kitchen door go back out to kitchen till we came in the back kitchen and he paid us a gave me a dime in a Buffalo Mecca and I was expecting to get about a dollar down the half that day's work. That's what it will go on back there and I really wanted so that $0.15 on the ground.

I haven't accepted you nothing and they was something there was a mass and you is that I don't love that.

I remember when we were about two or three hello shaft came to look for Michigan. How I'm going to say much about it so he found 1/2 time. Then he said it'll take Ramona JL.

She said to share, like share you full is your thing, I'll go to jail you please your hair.

My dignity was a firm there and I have a loss thank God is not many people grow infinite because most people grow up in the back trying to please a white man because that was what they were supposedly inferior. So I grew up thinking that I was created in the image of God and even though God is confidence in who he was, did not match what was expected from a black person in the South during those times Dr. Perkins family would soon feel the need to send them out of state for his own safety. And it all started after his brother cried, came back from fighting in World War II. Client was talking with his girlfriend, waiting to see a movie in his own town in the alleyway of a loving creator, the black side of open side so they could go upstairs and rifle one in the front door down there and the boys were just coming home from the service.

That's a jubilant time they been gone about three or four years fighting the country and then polish Behind and hit my head telling Blackfoot to be quite and I hate turnaround as a soldier. I was associate when you become associate you believe you can pin about your hand.

Don't enter they hit him. He turned around and grabbed club policeman took that I had a shot in the stomach to time, but we been listening to a portion of an interview that Kim Anthony did with Dr. John Perkins. Recently a part of her podcast called unfavorable odds which is part of the family like podcast network and listing to Dr. Perkins share his story, his brothers death at the hands of the police you can understand where I'm in the heartbreak is real, but the anger and the bitterness that you would have to feel real, and how I just felt an end to not know Christ. At that point Dr. Perkins has not been converted. When you experience that all you know to do is fight back to our want to harm the people brought harm to you. I am in some way. Since the DNA of the human soul who hands you payback and anything less than that is not acceptable. Working to jump ahead. Dr. Perkins him in the 70s was living again in Mississippi and there had been a group of students who had been arrested for participation in the civil rights march and Dr. Perkins who at this point had come to faith in Christ went to the jail and Brandon Mississippi to bail these protesters out of jail and he found the police were waiting for him. Dr. Perkins, I'd like to take you back to the ambush and Brandon because as I read that part of your story. It was so powerful for me because I have experienced racism yes, but I did not have to go through what you and your team went through during that time.

So would you would you take me back to that jailhouse and describe what it was like for you. It looked like they matter tricked us into coveted because I will come up to make bond for them and that's when MSI.com and got aside, and they thought a business on the J and they started charging in that chair Phyllis and I remember when they stop talking about the FBI's boat going away and all of that.net. It made me wash up my blood just blurted, and then when I got in Hall to go up there. It was two guys who hadn't vetoes for they try to be this all Step like I was going in and out of life that was taught you. It was then I said hello it is I am.

If I had a hangover day. I would've pulled out of in Sampson, all the student would kill out and killed all those wife will kill to stand. I saw that I was broken into. I saw myself as to my reaction in my heart.

I had the capability 19 said that if you let me edit you. I want to preach the gospel and save us together.

All we like sheep will turn it on said Nicodemus. How can these things be fun again. You will bond the first time with the Adams. Your bond this time of God's spirit. Nicodemus, how can this be because God so loved the world that he gave his own guns, that whosoever believes on him should not. But have less patient, not Sun Tzu artists condemned door, but that the world through him might be. Say he that believes on that believes not is condemned already. I don't think we read those devious that we got Yvonne again we get to know God and deeper way. You confess your sin and you just is not like you never sent. So now he'll invite you to do this but but if you see anything you're saying you still have an advocate with the father and all that love, love is this what, love is this guy would make us to be his children John should actually so it haven't been hate like and get them over there. Hey, is the fact that they have been washing my walls to when I went in the hospital after that my Dr. White nurses back got back there they took care of me. I don't know why around, they wash my lungs to pay out love. Do you think love is the key to reconciliation.

Love is absolute just to justice come out of God's love.

He so loved, don't kill him in an guideline manner is a brave actually braved I you killing me life-threatening.

We need to get together quite so delightful Laura hammers we crossroad the greatest constitution on paper that ever been thought out withholding the truth to be self-evident, that all humankind was created even though there were God and that entity and now what are we doing back and away from ticklish and affirmation. This is a right now my question, he would always ask when he came out of jail beat up on a pedestal. He would always ask the question what we go from here.

Everything from dignity is not a love fight like that love black. We got the loan in your latest book called dream with me.

It seems like it's more of a call to action, which is what you're about right. It's a call to discipleship.

A call to discipleship. What do you see out there as you tour the country before the cobra 19 crisis which you see out there that gives you hope.

I think the moth talk culture churches was given integrated whole. There is a group is called the Mosaic that the group to call the Christian community development Association now like me to move it. I'm so glad I wanted to get a chance. Women suffer live black women had to take the burden of us to save us.

Five have array what IV with 1/3 grade education but since I married a PhD in English type person without her whole van so I'm grateful I'm grateful for you.

I'm grateful for people who are thinking about these issues, we can make a better fish. I think just like when The Opportunity. The Problem I Think He Saw That I Have Called on James Says, Don't You Not Only Have You Impacted This Nation and This World with Your Work, but You've Impacted Me and My Family Personally, I Think You That I Have the Honor of Living a Life That Has Been Far Different from Yours, but Having Opportunities That I May Not Have Had Had It Not Been for People like You, I Want Thank You for I Want Thank You.

You Are My Lord You My Joy. That's What Paul Says in Philippians Who Says the Struggle We Went to for This Church. We Can Meet up in Jail and All of That but You First Want to Help Me. You Have Been with Me and He Said Rejoice in the Lord Always and Again I Say Rejoice Joy and Rejoice Is a Hasslefree. That's What Motivates Me Gratitude, Gratitude for Having a Big Life Always Been Tough and Long for All His Benefits toward the Man of Remarkable Life. Dr. John Perkins Listing to Excerpts from a Conversation That Kim Anthony, the Host of the Unfavorable Odds Podcast Part of the Family Are Podcast Network Interview She Had with Dr. Perkins. You Can Hear the Entire Interview.

When You Go to Our Website.

Family Life.com and Hear about the Song. Dr. Perkins Heard His Son Singing That God Used Melt His Heart and Bring Him to Faith in Christ. Kim Has Other Episodes That Are Part of the Current Season of Unfavorable Odds. All Stories of People Who Found Strength and Hope in Christ, in the Midst of Dramatic Adversity and Again You'll Find All of That on Our website@familylifetothe.com and inspiring story inspiring life motion he felt and conveyed the story which brought me to tears today want one perspective, you know, he says thanks for a big life thinking I complain about the littlest things in my life and he went through such adversity and yet has a perspective of someone. 16.

What can I render unto the Lord for all his benefits toward me.

What a beautiful, inspiring way to live your day today and a lot for all of us to learn about how we love one another and care for one another and fight for one another and pursue justice in our world today.

Kindly and lovingly that there is a sin of partiality. The Bible talks about that. It is a sin to show partiality to one person over another person and and we all need to be aware of and conscious of how we stumble and that sin and repent and believe the gospel and walk differently again, I'd encourage listeners to download the entire episode of Kim Anthony's conversation with Dr. John Perkins and other episodes from unfavorable odds or other podcasts that are part of the family liked podcast network information is available online@familylifetoa.com and let me just mention Dr. Perkins has written a number of books on this subject that would like to recommend to you his book. Let justice roll down is a powerful book where his personal story becomes a backdrop for how we can pursue harmony with one another and then his book dream with me race love and the struggle we must live both of these books are available in our family life today resource Center you can order them from us online@familylifetodate.com or call 1-800-358-6329 that's one 800 F as in family L as in life, and then the word today to get copies of either of these two books by Dr. John Perkins and a quick reminder if you've not yet downloaded the brand-new family life app that makes it easier for you to listen to family life to do whenever it's convenient for you, go to the app store on your device and type in family life is one word it's easy to access. It's free and that way you can listen to family life to the anytime you want. So check out the app store and look for the family life to and with that we can wrap things up for this week. Thanks for joining us. Hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend and I hope you can join us back on Monday. Talk about how we should be thinking more biblically about government about politics about the gospel how all that works together that were were going there Monday, so I hope you can tune in to listen. I want to thank our engineer today. Keith Lynch along with our entire broadcast production team on behalf of our hosts David and Wilson and Bob have a great weekend see you Monday for another edition of family life, family life to the production of family life of Little Rock, Arkansas. A crew ministry help for today hope for tomorrow


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