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And now, Chosen Generation, where no topic is off limits and everything is filtered through biblical glasses. And now here's your host, Pastor Greg. And welcome to the program. Great to have you with me. Thanks so much for being here. I know you have a choice in where you can listen each and every day.
And I thank you for keeping it tuned here to Chosen Generation Radio, where no topic is off limits and everything filtered through biblical glasses. Well, I've got a great, really great program lined up for you today. Bottom of hour number three, Professor Wilford Riley from the Kentucky State University will be with us. We'll be talking about the statues being torn down and the statues being erected and just the insanity of rewriting history and then putting up these objects and calling them art. It's really quite interesting all to seemingly promote just a racist dialogue. Anyway, we'll get into that with Professor Riley. He's got some great articles up, by the way, at National Review.
Black-white supremacy is not really a thing in 2023. And BLM's Bloody Bill comes due, must reads, in my opinion, at National Review by Wilford Riley. Let's see, what else do we have? We have Tiaran Rose Mandelberger be with us. We'll be talking about the fake news and censorship as it continues. Also coming up on the program today, Rick Manning and I will be diving in.
He'll be back with me. And we'll talk a little bit more in depth about all of this, the CCP, the items in the air. I don't know if you've, obviously, I'm sure you probably have been watching this, but there have been these major spillages that have taken place.
One in Ohio and then last night, another one in Arizona, hazardous waste being dumped, roadways having to be cleared, train axles breaking. There's a lot of very interesting things taking place. We'll talk to Rick about some of that stuff coming up. Donna Jackson is with me and we will explore Black History Month. Is it to divide us or unite us? I'll choose the latter.
So we'll talk about that coming up. And you would be surprised by the way, that there are months of celebration and there is even, let me see here, I got to find it. There is even a Polish American Heritage Month. There is, yes, a Polish American Heritage Month.
And that is in October, of course, around, you know, the Oktoberfest and so forth and sausages and all that kind of great fun food. David Sisokas joins me. David, welcome. Good to have you.
Thanks so much, Greg. Listen, I got a text from Frank. Frank says he's in a waiting room. In the waiting room? You guys, you should be able to let him into the... I don't see a waiting room.
No, I turned that off. That's why you were able to just jump in. Oh, you know what? I bet he's in the wrong one. I bet he's in the wrong one. I bet he's in the older one.
Yep. I bet he may be in the older one, although it shouldn't have that either. But let me, I've copied the invite link. Tell him I'm going to resend it by email. Okay, I will do that. Then we'll move along and wait for as we... Yep, tell him I'm resending the Zoom link by email for him to, for this Zoom link for him to jump in. Okay, great.
And I will be watching closely to make sure that we don't have any issues. But yeah, no, I'm looking at the bottom of the screen and the person in a waiting room would be in the chat area. And I don't see one. I just see two participants.
Participants. Okay, I sent that in. I just sent him a note to look for it. Okay. So no problem.
Yeah. Well, and we're gonna and where we're the purpose behind that conversation. There is an article at firefighter nation.com folks that you can reference to. But Frank Ricci, the president of the New Haven Firefighters and Battalion Chief will be with us. And he was the lead plaintiff in the landmark Supreme Court case, Ricci versus DiStefano and has lectured at the Reagan Library on Civil Rights. He appeared on the PBS four part series, the United States Constitution. He's an advisory board member of the Penwell Fire Group. And he'll be joining us here shortly. Very good. Yeah.
Frank and I have collaborated on a couple of things, Greg, one of which is the article that you mentioned at Firefighter Nation. And last week, you and I were together, we we touched, we started to talk a little bit about oaths and what they should mean and how it is that people, unfortunately, are violating them day in and day out these days. And it's a different world than the world in which the founders wrote oaths into the Constitution. There's a there's a couple of places where oaths are in the Constitution, one of which, of course, is something most folks are familiar with, because the president takes an oath to support, to protect and defend the Constitution. And yet he has it's the only specific oath written into the Constitution.
But there's another place in the Constitution that requires almost anybody, almost every American to take an oath regarding the Constitution. And Frank and I did that. And we did it specifically in relationship to firemen. Firemen are actually required to take an oath to the Constitution.
And that's because of Article 6. And so Frank and I worked on that. And hopefully, hopefully we'll get that we'll get him joining in. I sent him the I sent him a text saying that you sent him a fresh link and I texted back to great. Yep, I did. And I and I just resented again, just to be sure. So. So it's so it's doubly sent.
Okay, doubly sent. Yeah, I sent the notice for this first time we'll have multiple people while I'm on. So it's always it's always a challenge to do something the first time from a technical standpoint.
I've had I've had as many as five on at once. So we should be sure everything should be fine. And that's one of the reasons why I click off the waiting room to make sure so people get when and that's why I use specific links for each program and for each segment.
So then that way, I don't have any any cross traffic. All right. Excellent. There he is.
And guess what? And good morning, Frank. Welcome. Good to have you. Good morning. Glad to be here. Thank you. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Well, I've I've already made I've already made your introduction. So I welcome you.
Welcome you to the program. And and we want to get into talking about those. And David, you were just mentioning about, you know, the the different landscape that we're in.
I guess, let's start with the background on that. And and then I've got some questions because I think that it speaks a lot to what you and I talk about often. And what I've shared about the kinds of individuals that we need to have as representatives, who understand the significance of these oaths and that there is a higher power that they're that they are before God are going to be held accountable for those oaths. Yeah, I think it is important.
This is something that people really shouldn't have. I think these days, of course, more recently, we've got this Brunson that Brunson matter that's going on where the is these, this group of brothers are challenging actions of the Congress in relationship to certifying the 2020 election and the fact that they may very well have not lived up to their oaths. And I think people will understand that kind of that kind of thing better if they understand what oaths are about. But if I may, Greg, before we do that, because I just mentioned in passing something about the Supreme Court, I think it would be a little bit worthwhile to hear how it was that Frank was before the Supreme Court.
Frank, go ahead and share with us your story if you'd be so kind. Oh, well, thanks for having me on. And it's great to be here to talk about oaths. Because one of the issues we see is people nowadays lie under oath.
It's it's one of the problems that we have in society, and then they want you to lie based off their lies. And the issue that brought the Ritchie case before the United States Supreme Court was the firefighters in New Haven, tenants and captains, we took a test for promotion, and the political price for complying with the Constitution and the 14th amendment of the Constitution in the title seven of the Civil Rights Act was too high. So they decided they weren't going to promote anyone, and they just wanted to scrap it and go back to the drawing board and have us take a new test.
Essentially, pastor. It's what what's occurring in America now is the word equity and it's becoming the new code word for gimmick schemes and quotas. We need to get back to the truth.
And if the city of New Haven told the truth from the beginning, there wouldn't have been a Ritchie case. Well, it's it's obviously we're talking to about the difference between equality and and equity. And, you know, our country was founded on the idea of equality.
And I'm going to talk about this a little bit later in the program. But you know, it's Black History Month. And so slavery is always brought up. But what's forgotten is, is that 20 years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence, the United States of America decided voted to stop the importation of slavery. No more slaves were allowed to enter this country.
Only Yeah, that's great. And that was actually built into the original constitution that 20 years after, after the ratification, the international slave trade would be banned by the United States of America. And there's, there's a variety of other kinds of things that are put in motion. What many people don't know or don't even think about is the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 that banned slavery and all the new territory that was acquired from Britain in the revolution. So there's a long history of the founders actually putting in motion to things to do away with that.
And of course, there's a variety of other things in regards to history. You referenced the article that Frank and I put together. One of the more interesting things of that was that we know how well Ben Franklin was such a smart guy and had his fingers into everything.
Ben Franklin is the founder of the American Fire Service. I think it's that it's a great story for Frank to share with us as a precursor to the firefighters. All right, so let's take a quick break. And then we'll bring that in right after this quick break. We'll be back with more Children's Generation Radio.
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And I'm very pleased to be here. Of course, each and every Wednesday, David Shostakis, our constitutional originalist and joining us is Frank Ricci, the president of New Haven Firefighters. And so Ben Franklin, tell me a little bit about that and then we'll let Frank fill in pieces from there. Well strangely enough, I think we're going to let the firefighter talk about the founding of the fire service in America. Ben Franklin had his fingers in almost everything that we live today.
And this is one of them. Frank, why don't you share that with us? Ben Franklin was, you know, the American American. I mean, there wasn't anything that he didn't do, that he was kind of the statesman that brought it all together. But Ben Franklin, early on, understood that there was a need, that goodwill alone wouldn't carry the day. He knew that when a fire happened or if invaded, there needed to be a way to call the citizens to attention. So it was the fire bell that not only rang for fire, but also rang for colonials to bring arms. So he organized the first fire company in Philadelphia. And if you look back on our historical teachings and readings, you're going to see that the fire hall was probably third in line from the church, then the tavern, then the fire hall in organizing citizens for the revolution.
So fire was a threat to the entire colony. And as the colonies grew, Ben Franklin had the wherewithal to say, there needed to be a plan in place, we couldn't just do this by happenstance, as structures got placed closer and closer together. And it's, you know, again, a lot of people also refer to Benjamin Franklin as well, he was just, you know, a kind of a deist and, you know, and what have you, but but Ben Franklin made it pretty clear that he had a very, very deep sense of faith. And, and I think that plays a large role in in the foundation that he laid in in each of these entities that he was engaged in bringing together.
Yeah, that's accurate. And one of the one of the things that actually brought Frank and I together was a was a fond belief or an understanding and a sense of and sense of the importance of history. And that kind of came together and we wound up doing some writing together as a result of that, that brought together some of the histories of the fire service.
And frankly, I did not know till I was involved with working with Frank about Franklin, Ben Franklin's aspects of this. But then, but then the whole situation with oaths came up in discussion and firefighters have to take an oath because of the United States Constitution. That's something that people don't understand. And it's not just firefighters, but it's everybody that's involved in government in so many ways. And one of the one of that comes from the oath requirement that's in Article six of the Constitution, Clause three, that requires everybody in both the executive and judicial branches of the government around the country to take an oath to support and defend the United States Constitution. There was a couple of reasons for that, one of which is what the understanding of oaths were to to the founders. Most people these days, as Frank mentioned earlier, unfortunately, people will take an oath and it will be utterly meaningless to them. And they just go ahead and do what they're going to do.
And it's sort of a perfunctory situation. But when they created they created the oath requirement back in in 1789 as part of the United States Constitution, understanding of oaths was completely different. Most importantly, you know, do you in that in witnesses in courts and the we see on that we see on TV, you know, the people swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth to help you God.
And people go, I do. Strangely enough, oath wasn't the part where you're promising the community to tell the truth wasn't the most important part of the understanding. The most important part then was the fact that you were taking an oath to God to tell the truth, to God to tell the truth. And that was that was a crucial difference, because the penalty for lying, you know, much as bad as it would be if you were going to be prosecuted for perjury or be prosecuted for not following your oath.
Those are temporal penalties. The big, big idea between that and so help me God was that you were facing eternal damnation if you were to invoke God's name and and lie. And that was something that was important to people. And that's how that one that's how the so help me God wound up in the Constitution. I might also mention one one last one we've got 20 seconds, 20 seconds. All right, the there's also the option to affirm as opposed to swear.
But that was put in for the Quakers, not because they had and not because they had a problem with doing something that they're making a promise to God, but rather that their reading of the Bible prohibited the way where you could actually make a promise to God. All right, we're gonna take it. We got to take a break. We'll be right back. We're gonna take a break.
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Let's see. And welcome back to Chosen Generation Radio where no topic is off limits and everything filtered through biblical glasses. And my pleasure again to be joined by David Shostakos, our constitutional originalist and Frank Ritchie, retired president of the New Haven Firefighters. And so, David, let me throw it to you. And you were talking about affirmations. Share a little bit more about that. And then, Frank, I believe you have a quote for us from No Webster we like to hear.
So go ahead, David. Yeah, there's two places in the Constitution where they talk about those. One, of course, is the presidential oath in Article II. And then there's the Article VI presence of oaths that require everybody, essentially, around the country who assumes a position in government in either the executive or the judicial branches.
And that's what's covered by that. There's a separate provision regarding legislators to solemnly swear to support the Constitution of the United States. But both provisions always say solemnly swear or affirm. But people seem to think that if somebody affirms as opposed to swear and say, so help me God, they're doing something other than making a promise to God.
And that's just not true. That wasn't the understanding in 1776, 1787 in that time frame. And we'll give Frank an opportunity to explain some of that in a minute. But when they would say affirm, that was because of a particular biblical interpretation that the Quakers had that prohibited an actual physical swearing and using God's name in that situation.
But it was still, nevertheless, a promise to God that had eternal consequences as opposed to temporal consequences. Very, very important. But in terms of the understanding of the founders, of course, we often refer to the writings of Noah Webster. And I think Frank knows some background on that. Well, Noah Webster was a famous New Havener and went to Yale. And he was friends with Washington and he was friends with James Madison. And I think it's important as time goes on, words evolve in our culture. So having a snapshot in time of what the words meant in these founding documents, I think is critical and essential to really bringing understanding. And I'll lead with Webster's last line about an oath before I go into his full definition. But his last line is a false oath is called perjury. So in society today, we know that perjury is lying.
But then the definition of perjury is simply a false oath. And how he captures this word is he says it's a solemn affirmation or dedication or declaration made with an appeal to God for truth of what is affirmed. The appeal to God is an oath. It implies that a person I can't even pronounce that word, I'm going to need a legal scholar, his vengeance, and he renounces his favor in that declaration, if it's false, or if the declaration is a promise, the person invokes the vengeance of God, if he shall not or fail to fulfill it. So essentially got to remember back in the 1700s, an oath was about putting your sacred honor on the line.
I mean, if somebody challenged your honor back then, they could challenge you to a duel. That's how serious we took raising your hand and saying, we are here to defend the Constitution and pledge. Well, and let me just add, David, to support again, what you were saying about the Quakers, the verse that I believe that they were referencing is James 512, that says, but above all things, my brethren, swear not neither by heaven, neither by earth, neither by any other oath, but let your yay be yay and your nay be nay. So it wasn't saying, you know, that you're not going to take an oath.
What it was saying is, is that you don't need to take an oath because what you say you're going to do, you better do. And then here's the warning, lest ye fall into condemnation. Well, where's that condemnation coming from? It's coming from God. And, and, you know, I, there may be those that will argue and say, Oh, well, you know, we don't believe in God. Listen, you may not believe in the wind, but I'm going to tell you something when you step out on a windy day and it knocks you on your butt. Guess what?
You just got woke up to the fact there's wind there. I'm just seriously telling you God exists and he doesn't need you to validate his existence. And we need as a nation to get back to that moral high ground so that we can bring our country back to the place it needs to be. And that's why this oath conversation to me is so significantly important.
That's exactly right. And I think it's important for people to understand what you just said, the portions that you just shared, to understand if somebody affirms as opposed to swears, the consequences understood at the time that this was put into the Constitution was as Webster said, or as the condemnation that the Quakers would refer to. So there's really not a significant difference between so help me God and I do solemnly affirm. There was no difference when it was written at the time that it was written.
These days we now utilize it. They say, well, you don't have to swear if you don't believe in God or whatever. And so you affirm instead.
And that's why what Frank was talking about regarding language is so very ultimately important to be able to understand the language of the time that something that we we live our lives by was understood by the people that wrote it in the first place. Well, let me let me let me turn this question to Frank relative to this because as a firefighter, you know, when everybody else is running away from the situation, you're going in. And isn't it significant to know that the guys that you're going in with are the kinds of guys that are not going to quit, give up, not have your back, so to speak, in in the in the midst of that significant situation? Well, the one thing that the American Fire Service has demonstrated to the public time and time again is that the fire service won't quit. There's not a firefighter that I know that wouldn't make their spouse a widow or their kids parentless for the community they serve. So we know we all take the oath and we take the oath not only to God, we take the oath to the Constitution, but we also take an oath to each other that, you know, will lay down our lives for our friends. We our whole goal is to save somebody from that horrible faith. And I have a lot of respect for not only firefighters, but also our police officers who put themselves in harm's way every day, and they just don't know what they're going to face. And that comes from? Go ahead, David.
Relative value. We are speaking, by the way, Greg, at the moment, and Frank is way too modest to mention any of this. But with an actual firefighting hero, he has in fact run into burning buildings. He has, in fact, been crawling on a floor that collapsed. He carries with him injuries from from those kinds of activities.
It's not it's not somebody that's just a writer or just putting this out there. When you ask about people, he's had people's backs and he's had people who've had his back in some extraordinarily difficult circumstances. The event that we talked about goes on in Indianapolis in April to see some of the films and movies of things that actually took place. These are very, very special people. And these people, when I think when they take an oath, they take an oath in the 18th century fashion. You know, it's that is that important.
And as role models for the rest of us, it's just incredible. And and and and Frank, just just to be clear, that that was my point. My point was is is is that, you know, for folks to understand how important these oaths are to the firefighters, to the police officers, to these people who serve and I took I'm a veteran. So I I took you're welcome.
I took I took that oath as well. And and you know, and you still live it out. I mean, once you take it, it you know, it doesn't end. It's it's part of your it's part of your psyche. It's part of your mindset. And I think that as a follower of Christ as a believer, you understand that too. I mean, it's the reason I threw myself across the car to save my daughter's life and died four times.
It's I mean, that's, you know, it's the reason I'm in a wheelchair today, because I, you know, laying down your life, for those that God has given you responsibility for, well, that's, that's, that's just what you do. That's part of it. In my in my mind, that's part of it. And and we answer to God before we answer to man.
I open the floor, very well said, very well said. And I want to make one thing clear about us. And it's really where my relationship with Dave started, is that if you're gonna swear an oath to something, at least have the wherewithal to know what's in it, and to understand what's in it. And what Dave provides through his writings, because that's how I came to know Dave was actually reading his writings. It wasn't about indoctrination. It was about history. And what does these founding documents mean? And I mean, that's something that I really took away to understand that the Declaration of Independence is the principles of our country, the Constitution is our structure.
And then the Bill of Rights is that third act. So Dave really encompasses that in a way where that's the type of education we need in our school system, instead of what the garbage we're seeing today. Well, and that's one of the big reasons why I love to have him on my program so we can get into these conversations. And look, the reality is, you don't always necessarily get the answer that you may even want. But you get the right answer. And that's what's so important. We're gonna take a quick break again.
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We always promise you a free consultation. Look, I am for marriage between a man and a woman. I am for life from conception. I am for following the Bible, and I believe that our founders started this nation on biblical principles.
I am in support of our military and believe that America should play a role in world security. I believe our Constitution was intended for a moral people and that the Bible contains the only true moral code. I believe we are all born sinners and that God in His grace and mercy sent His Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins, and that if we will confess our sins, He is just and righteous to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I believe salvation is not just accomplished in a little prayer, but that it is found in how that transformation is lived out. Jesus is to be the Lord of our lives, and we should follow biblical precepts. This is not legalism or works but a life lived out in love and honor towards the One who died for my sins. Faith without works is dead and is no faith at all. I believe that we will fall and that we need to have a repentant heart and that God will ultimately bring us into perfect action through Jesus Christ, spirit man perfected and soulish man in progress. I believe that we are not to live in guilt and shame when we fall, but we repent and get up and move closer to Jesus. I believe that if our nation will repent and turn from wickedness that God will heal our land.
I believe that as a Christian I must occupy until He comes and that to call evil wicked and to warn about those evil acts is a part of the mandated Christianity. That to love also means to be willing to take the risk necessary to confront a friend with the truth in hopes that their heart will be turned because their life matters, even if it means, in that moment, they will possibly hate me. It means that I must risk scorn to stand for truth and that I can never sit silently by while evil attempts to conquer the world. God is my everything and Jesus is the love of my life. That does not make me weak but strong, not silent but bold and not fearful but courageous. Therefore, if you are my friend, while we may not fully agree, know that I share what I share because I care.
If you strongly disagree with these beliefs, they are not debatable for me and you can, if you choose, unfriend me. I do not say this in anger but in love. I wish for you eyes to see and ears to hear that Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation and that God, not man, gets to decide what is truth, life and the way. God bless you. And welcome back to Children's Generation Radio where no topic is off limits and everything filtered through biblical glasses and I'm so excited to have again with me as he is each and every Wednesday David Chistokas, our constitutional originalist, and to be introduced and really pleased to be meeting Frank Ritchie who is retired president of the New Haven Firefighters and he is also a member of a conservative think tank now and what's the name of that organization, Frank?
I work for the Yankee Institute working on state and national labor issues. Outstanding. Well, thank you. Thank you for your continued service to our nation in the pursuit of maintaining and restoring our constitutional republic which is certainly in tatters at the moment but we're all fighting to get us back there. David, let me let you get us back on path and then we'll, and then, yeah, and then we'll... The focus of the show actually has been kind of an understanding of oaths and what an oath means and what it meant to the founders and they wrote that into the Constitution in Article 6 and they said that everybody that assumes an executive authority or assumes a judicial authority or legislative authority, whether it's local or state or federal, has to take an oath as part of their, part of launching upon the office to support the Constitution. There's something important that that was meant to do because even as late as 1787 when we've had the revolution and we had a war that we fought together for almost nine years, still in those days more often than not when John Adams would talk about my country, John Adams was talking about Massachusetts. When Jefferson would say my country or whatnot, he was talking about Virginia. Their loyalties were often in those days developed over several hundred years to their new states, previously colonies. The idea... Steve, Steve, to your point there that to just send it home, our listeners are probably familiar with the first political illustration that was put forth in America was done by Ben Franklin, which was the snake that was broken up, that actually had the colonies that had the statement, join or die, to speaking exactly what you're saying. People had allegiance to Virginia, Connecticut. They viewed it as New England at the time.
But so you're a hundred percent right. And that was the purpose and the prime purpose of Article 6 was to create a sense of a nation that everybody who took an oath... I was thinking while I was getting prepared to discuss this, Greg's in Texas. You're in Connecticut.
I'm in Illinois. And as it turns out, because of Article 6, I've taken an oath eight different times to support the Constitution, whether as an office holder or admission to the bar, a member of the judicial branch. Greg, as a veteran, has taken an oath to the Constitution.
You as a firefighter in other capacities, an oath to the Constitution. The idea was to see to it that there was that glue, that there was some glue so that the allegiance was not to Massachusetts, Virginia, Connecticut, but rather the allegiance was to the United States of America and the Constitution. And that's that. So there was a couple of purposes.
There's a couple of things going on, but one of which has to do with actually creating a nation out of these 13 disparate teeny little states. And I think that will kind of wrap up the old situation with that. As I mentioned previously, Greg, Frank has a new book coming out in about eight weeks in April. And it's all about leadership. And I was pleased and honored to be part of the contribution of one of the chapters. But I think it's worthwhile for people to understand what Frank's book is going to be about.
And then in April, maybe we'll come back and we'll talk about that in detail. But Frank, tell people about your book. Thanks, Greg.
And Dave, honored to be on your show. The book is called Command Presence, Increase Your Influence. So essentially, I wanted to tell my story, but take away kind of the lessons, break out the lessons of what I've learned. You know, being a fire officer in one of the toughest neighborhoods in America, winning and prevailing in a case in the United States Supreme Court, going all the way to excoriating Senate hearings testifying against Sonia Sotomayor at her confirmation hearing.
And what I realized is everyday Americans are doing extraordinary things. And a lot of times, the kind of secrets and the power plays are protected. And I wanted that individual that runs for the school board, that mom that runs for the school board the first time, to be kind of equipped with some of the lessons that I learned the hard way, because at some point, if you're going to be in a position of leadership, whether it's on the fire ground, or the school board, at some point, you're going to be in front of a judge in front of a camera or in front of a room full of people that don't agree with you. And this book kind of takes you through the tactics of how do you handle yourself in those situations. And Dave, I was honored to have you willing to come on board to talk about the Constitution, because it's so important and those principles of that we're in the Declaration of Independence and in the Constitution as the structure of how we apply those principles are actually very important to tell a quick story that I have in the book that Pastor Greg, I think you'll enjoy. There's a poem about Lexington and Concord by Emerson. And it talks about the Bedford flag, which was America's first flag at that was ever it was a military flag, but it was the flag of the militia that flew at when the British first engaged the colonists for the shot heard around the world. But this flag you think would have been held in such high esteem that it would have been, you know, what it meant to those militia people who put their lives on the line for America, but it only took one generation for that flag to be found by Nathan, the flagbearers granddaughter, she took the flag and she cut the fringe off the flag to put it on address. So the moral of the story is, it goes right back to us.
If we don't teach not indoctrinate if we don't teach and educate individuals on what the Constitution means what oaths mean, we could lose it in one generation just as Nathan's granddaughter lost the meaning of the flag and actually cut the fringe off one of the most historical flags in American history. So this book breaks down tactics. I am assuming that I know your listeners have a great heart. And they're already coming hopefully to this book with, you know, being a great person and trying to do the right thing. This book breaks down tactics on how they could just be a little bit better at what they're trying to accomplish. So very quickly, where do they go to that they could pre order? Can they pre order the book and where do they go to do that? They can't pre order the book yet. It's going to be released in Indianapolis at FDIC.
But I will get that information when it comes out. And I'd be honored to come back on your show. And we will be happy to have you back on the program. We greatly appreciate it.
Frank, thanks so much for being with us today, David, thank you for helping us walk through this very important thing. And one final thing we want to re emphasize in the ninth and the 10th amendment of the Constitution, powers belong to the state, rights belong to the individual. And it's so important that we are enforcing our rights, especially in this day and hour. And until we get back to God and understand that our rights come from him, therefore, when we enforce our rights, we stand with God.
That is the higher ground. I'll be back with more Children's Generation Radio hour number two straight ahead. My passion is the fight for freedom. My father fought for World War Two defending our country. Today we are no longer fighting with guns. Instead, we are fighting an ideological battle for control of our country by contributing to causes that support your constitutional rights. I am Patriot Robo.
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