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Scott Lively discusses the destructive effect of the LGBTQ agenda on our culture

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September 8, 2022 1:09 pm

Scott Lively discusses the destructive effect of the LGBTQ agenda on our culture

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September 8, 2022 1:09 pm

Scott Lively discusses the destructive effect of the LGBTQ agenda on our culture and the connection between the Nazi's Pink Swastika and the current LGBTQ activists. Evil is good and good is evil and the breakdown of each letter leads to transgender and transhumanism.

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Good to be back in with you, Greg. So I wanted to visit with you in particular about your book, The Pink Swastika. And the LGBTQ element of what is happening, the assault on our kids, the assault on our education system. According to, I mean, there are polls that are out there that indicate now that between the ages of 18 and 25, the numbers anywhere between 20 and 40% of that group of young people who consider themselves to be a part of or somehow connected to, they see themselves as one of those. They're self-identifying as LGBT.

And that, of course, that's all totally predictable. I was warning about that 30 years ago that sexual orientation is a state of mind. It's not a physical reality. It's not grounded in your DNA or your physiology. In fact, physiologically, we're all either male or female.

There's only two sexes. It's built into our DNA and homosexual identity. There really is no such thing as a homosexual, except in the sense that that someone can be a carpenter.

Right. Something that you do is that whether you think about yourself, it's not something an identity created by God. You're not created as a homosexual.

You're a person who's created as a heterosexual who chooses to indulge yourself in homosexual dysfunction or any of the other perversions that are related to the sexual minority community. And so it's completely predictable. And we warned about this, Scott. I mean, I was right there. You know, I think that was one of the things that brought you and I together, you know, 10 years ago, because I was talking about this and I fought this out in California with the guy that was the leader of the organization to get the constitutional amendment for marriage between a man and a woman into the Constitution of California. You know, I had the pleasure of meeting him. Who was that? Trying to remember his name right now.

It's not coming to me. I knew most of the I mean, I was the state director for the American Family Association in California for a while. My law practice was based in Temecula. And I had I moved there from Sacramento, the state capital, where I worked with the key people in the pro-family battle. But, you know, California has always been sort of a groundbreaker for the left on all the issues. If you mention if you mention a couple of the names, I might I might remember.

I don't know who he was. I mean, it doesn't matter. It's it's we're both very familiar with the California scene.

Yeah. Well, the point of it is, is that we warned people over and over again that, you know, if you legalize sodomite unions, if you if you, you know, say that they're going to be the law and you don't codify and it has to be done at the state level, there isn't anything in the Constitution about marriage per se. It has to be decided at the state level and at the local level.

And states did decide. Thirty two of them, in fact. Thirty five. Thirty five at the time. Yeah.

Yeah. There are thirty five states that passed the Defense of Marriage Act. But this is this is there's a long, long history that that goes to this and that the the the goal of normalizing sexual perversion goes all the way back to that. Really, the the the deepest roots of cultural Marxism, cultural Marxism is distinct from communism, socialism and Nazi style fascism. And that those three all have an economic sort of context in which they work to subvert Judeo-Christian society. But all of all of their efforts failed because they they left the the natural family fabric of the society intact. Cultural Marxism emerged to correct that deficiency. And it targets the natural family and works to break down the family, recognizing it's the major barrier to the sexual revolution. Of course, the sexual revolution is the primary tactic of the left for softening the nations of the world for inclusion in a one world eventual one world government.

And that you can't you can't do it unless you break the family up first. So Herbert Marcuse, the the pioneer of cultural Marxism, said that the the barrier to Marxist control was the repressive order of procreative sexuality is his quote, and that the the solution was the disintegration of the monogamic and patriarchal family. And that since the 30s, that has been the strategy in the United States. The means of of getting to to political power was always to get constitutional recognition of homosexuality as protected behavior. And they started pursuing that all the way back at the beginning of the 20th century. And and and they their strategy was that that they would get the the Supreme Court to recognize homosexuality as a fundamental right. Right.

See, up until 1986, you know, see, Bowers versus hardware killed that strategy is they had worked to get almost actually included within the scope of the right to privacy. Right. Which was introduced as a legal concept by by by Justice Brandeis, whose parents were Frankist Jews who were who were whose morality. Frankism actually focused on actually promoting the the perversion of all kinds. Right.

As a as a as a theological necessity, very bizarre. Brandeis grew up in that household and then introduced the right to privacy into the Supreme Court. That was the steed that they were riding toward constitutional protection on. Then in 1986, they finally got their shot and the and the court under Byron White, who was a JFK appointed, by the way, the last true conservative justice on the Supreme Court. He slammed the door on that, writing for the majority that to suggest that that homosexuality is somehow implicit in the concept of ordered liberty is at best facetious.

Right. And then there was a very strongly worded concurrence by Warren Burger, who was the chief justice that was dead. They couldn't go anywhere with that. And up until that point, they had always you know, there'd always been a belief by some that homosexuals are born that way or whatever. But it wasn't that big of a deal.

They weren't pushing that. It wasn't sort of a monolithic belief system. But once the Supreme Court slammed the door on the fundamental right strategy, you know, because it's under the under the 14th Amendment, anything that's that's that's in constitutional law and federal law is binding on the states if it's a fundamental right.

Right. And so and then fundamental rights were extended through this idea of the right to privacy to different things. And anyway, that with that door slammed, they then switched to an alternate pathway to legal legitimacy that involved the equal protection clause. And that and they were going to get, you know, but in order to do that, in order to get minority status and equal protection as a minority, they had to meet a constitutional test that included immutability, meaning it's unchangeable status, a history of discrimination, which they could establish to a degree, and political powerlessness. And so everything shifted to a strategy in which they claim, you know, the born that way argument really became a dogma after 1986.

Which they had, which they had to shift to Scott in there, in there, because the other door, the other pathway had been closed. It's interesting. And then they just throw this because it's interesting when you look at his speech, I actually read a part of his speech in the last segment of the program. It says they refused to accept the results of a free election, which is a joke.

We could go for days about that issue. And they're working right now as I speak in state after state to give power to decide elections in America, to partisans and cronies, da da da da da. MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards, backwards to an America where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love. This is, in other words, and this is how I laid this out, that you're to a right to kill babies, a right to sodomy, and a right to gender mutilate our children. It's the sexual revolution. See, LGBT isn't just a collection of sexual minorities.

It's a chronology of social change, right? Lesbianism was the very first to be normalized because it's the least offensive to men. Then male homosexuality followed on the heels of that. Then bisexuality, which really means no limitations. It's really polyamory when you get right down to it. Bisexuality opens the door to unlimited numbers of partners, etc. Well, and they use Jacqueline Bessette as the poster child for that, remember, in the early 70s.

Yeah, yeah. But anyway, it's a whole sequence. It's a chronology of steps. So they completed the first three steps, LGB, really with the 2015 Obergevel v. Hodges gay marriage ruling, and then bisexuality really just sort of explode at that point with the whole polyamorous culture. It's throughout our society now. There's no limitations on sexuality. A huge number of women now have adopted this bisexual identity in order to appeal to pornography influenced men. And then transgenderism, of course, immediately emerged as the next category.

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And she's in a sanitarium right now. That's evil stuff, but I don't think that's Russian policy. Well, that's what they're doing, according to this pastor. And in the village next to him, just 10 kilometers away, the Russian soldiers murdered the pastor in that village. Came into the village, killed all the civilians, pulled them out in the street and shot them and then killed the pastor. And here's the thing. He was born in Russia.

His own mother still lives in Russia. Didn't believe that these things were happening until he went and showed her the video of what they were doing. Are we on the air? Yeah. Yeah. We just popped on the air. Sorry. I couldn't hold it. But I'm just telling, I'm just letting you know what, you know, what I know about.

My perspective on all this, this goes to the audience, who's just sort of, you know. Sorry. Yeah, we did. No, we were talking in the break, folks, and I apologize. And I want to get back to our main topic because it's not about making points or whatever. It was we were talking about the some of the stuff that's going on. And it really it does tie together in this sense that it's all about the Marxist efforts to overthrow our country and other world powers who have the same desire. Everybody, all of these entities understand that in order for the new world order to happen, the United States of America has to be destroyed. Well, yeah, that's that's that's right.

And they've been working on that for a long time. Judeo-Christian civilization has to be overthrown. And America has the first best, longest lasting constitutional republic in the history of the world.

Yes, sir. Really has been the has Christianized the world. And that now is all being unraveled because the Marxists have taken over our country. And I don't think in terms in terms of our perspectives on foreign policy and things like that happen, like in Ukraine and all that, that there's there's the overarching big picture realities. And then there are anecdotal incidents on the ground that play to both sides. And then you can always find soldiers in any war that are going to act outside the scope of policy and commit atrocities.

That's just the nature of war. But from the top down perspective, you know, the piece that I wrote this morning, we you know, we got off on this during the break. Yeah, I read the piece that I'm going to publish today titled Dark Brandon Rising. And I believe that that that that that really Obama's speech using Biden as an avatar. Right. That's really what's going on here. And that's just it's funny, but it's not funny. No, it's not.

But I hear what you're saying is just a skin suit for the group, for the for the fundamental transform. Every every morning, Klein and Rice go and see Obama. Before they go and brief Biden on what's going to happen. And that's and that is that is a bona fide fact. I've confirmed that now with three more sources.

And I mean, I need to know that fact to know that is that it's true. This is Obama is, in my perspective, is the is the closest candidate for the anti-Christ in my lifetime. I believe that he is that he is an extraordinarily evil man, that he is the one who orchestrated all of the change that we're facing.

It's the reason why all the the spheres of culture in America are all corrupt, pumped up the the sports, even sports. Yep. You know, every aspect of it is all Obama. He's the one behind what's going on even in Ukraine.

Obama sorrows the Clintons and the Bidens. It's a criminal conspiracy to enslave the Ukrainian population and to plunder their riches, which they've been doing for for a decade and a half. Yeah. Anyway, leading up to what happened here. And that and that and it's all part of a a a strategy for maintaining American hegemony in banking and oil and world finance, which would have been great, which I would be completely 100 percent behind if it hadn't been for the fact that the cultural Marxist took over our country and had redefined democracy. And to to to basically prioritize every form of evil that exists, especially sexual perversion.

Yeah. And so now the the most evil people in the world are not in Iran, they're not in Russia, they're not in China, they're in Washington, D.C. And that they're the ones who are who are leading us into World War Three. And the other thing, I mean, the Russians are very close to completing the special military operation. Ukraine's counter offensive was humiliatingly defeated.

And that and they even now the U.S. military is publicly distancing itself from what's happening in Ukraine. We're going to take a break. We've got to take a break. It's a hard break. We'll be back.

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Great, great, great conversation. Let's get back to the moral side of this because I think that that is so critically important. That's a battle right now, especially for parents. Parents are just waking up to realizing what's happening to their kids. And we had kind of, before we jumped into that little kind of segue that we did in the last segment, we were breaking down into, we talked about L, G, and B, and we were getting to the transgender and the impact of transgenderism and what that's doing.

Drag queens in classrooms, drag queens in churches, drag queens, kids being taken to bars and having drag shows. As much as that, as much as all that is infuriating, it's not really the biggest problem. Because transgenderism itself is, see, everything that has been happening with the sexual revolution over in this sequence of things is dismantling Judeo-Christian civilization from the tips of the branches to the roots. And that one step at a time, they have been destroying God's perspective and replacing it with their own. Transgenderism represents the deepest roots of what it means to be a human. That's what it means to be a human. We're created in the image of God, male and female. And that is implicit in our DNA.

It's unchangeable. And yet that's what's under attack. The idea that we have this binary heterosexual identity as human beings, that's what transgenderism is assaulting. And that there is a hidden, as I said the last time we were together, that there's a hidden T behind transgenderism that at the same time as transgenderism is being normalized, transhumanism is emerging right behind it. Transhumanism is taking, is preparing to take all of the young people that are being conditioned to think of their sexual identity and their humanness as something malleable and subjective. And preparing them to be the guinea pigs for the transhumanist future in which a new form of human being is created by mankind himself with augmentation. Artificial intelligence, robotics, genetic engineering, all those things combined together in order to perfect humanity and create something beyond homo sapien. This is Luciferian straight out of the garden.

This is going from the promise of Satan with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that you will be like gods to actually to the tree of life in which God foreclosed from humanity and put the flaming swords to protect it so that we wouldn't then become immortal. And that's what transhumanism is about. Immortality through the completion of eugenics philosophy of the self perfection of man through technology and transgenderism is the preparation for that that's happening right in front of our eyes.

And our children's minds are being raped and and their and their whole psyche is being transformed so that they're they're living under a strong delusion that makes them susceptible for all the evils that come next. Well, there's there's I hadn't Dr. Robert Marx on we're talking about and he was, you know, has been working to expose this whole idea of an AI church. And there is there isn't there isn't there is actually an artificial intelligence church. Yeah, where where they are trying to introduce AI into, you know, blind wonders. Yep.

Right. Yeah, the metaverse. The metaverse is really the matrix coming to life.

Yeah, where you've got a completely alternative, artificial universe, where, where all the rules are manmade. And where you basically you live through an avatar. avatarianism is is something that is developing when that's mentioned that, you know, Joe Biden is an avatar of Barack Obama. And, and all of us when we go when we take a false name, and we go and comment under a news story, we are functioning in the same manner. And there's a and there is a very distinct parallel between avatarianism and demonic possession. A human being operating through an avatar is really not much different than a demon operating through a human host. And all this is conditioning. It's all conditioning us for a way of thinking. That is, you know, last days, very last days, final days, final day.

Absolutely. Yeah, well, and that is, you know, the, I was praying into what Biden had said, and God gave me some very specific scriptures to look at the first set being out of Isaiah chapter five, which ties into, you know, that which is good is evil and that which is evil is good. But then, second Thessalonians chapter two, which is what you're talking about the great delusion, right now, that's going to be released, and then Romans chapter one.

Yeah, you know, all those are directly on point. And second Thessalonians chapter two really is the one of the best new New Testament showcases of the anti Christ in all the Bible. And it says that that it's toxic, it is it's the it's the man of perdition, who emerges in a in a in a time of apostasy.

Right. And that's what we're seeing right now the positive, the AI church is a is a bizarre, something bizarre to us. But in the context of AI church can produce lying wonders, like there, you know, if you're if you're in mesh and immersed in the in the metaverse, all those things, the most impossible things can be a reality to you, especially if your mind actually starts to be transitioned into accepting that, like, the matrix as a as your reality, right?

And you and here's, and here's the problem. The problem with two is, is that you can't throw out the baby with the bathwater because God still does miracles. God still heals. God still raises the dead God still causes the deaf to sit to hear and the blind to see and the lame to walk.

All of those things are still happening. However, one has to be very discerning in knowing whether or not you're dealing with the Lord, or whether you're dealing with the demonic. Well, and that is that the solution to all of this, and all these different problems is to, first of all, to abide in Christ, and to stay firmly rooted in the natural world, and to affirm its truth in the face of every bit of nonsense that's that's that's operating. And the truth spoken plainly and clearly to a human being is more powerful than the deceptions of the enemy. If they actually can perceive what you're saying themselves, if they if you can stand with someone who is suffering delusions, and stand with them on the shoreline and look at the stars in the skies and the waves lapping at your feet, then it's it's far easier to be able to to to contrast that truth with the the delusions that that they have adopted.

Through the the raping of their minds, right. And so that really is it's really the only solution we cannot, we cannot function in the artificial world without losing our greatest weapons, because the the natural world cannot be brought into the artificial world, right? The two are incompatible, you have to stay in the natural world. So you speak into these into the artificial world to rescue people out from it to bring them back to the natural world.

out from it. But you have to be completely grounded in it, and to spend as much time as you can in nature yourself, right out in the, you know, not on the internet, not not constantly on your phone or on your computer, need to be interacting with the creation of God, and to be renewed as a as a part of that creation, and to be restored in your thinking as to what it means to be a human being, and what the creation is really all about. And to be able to recognize all the counterfeit alternatives that the devil has been fostering. Yeah, well, which which is which is a different reality from from what's from what's actually real. And every single thing you see, you started with evolution, you were talking about evolution in your previous hour, right?

That that is, that's one of the first or the biggest. It's everything that the devil does in order to deceive us has to have has to be plausible, because we're thinking rational people inherently. And so in order to deceive somebody, the devil has to use subtlety, right, the, you know, the further you get into a reprobate mind, the less subtle he has to be, because your confusion allows you to be more easily diluted further. But, but at the starting point, he has to use the most subtle reasoning available in order to hook you in. And then once you've accepted something false as true in the place of a truth, that becomes the doorway in which he's able to enter into your mind and heart and drag you further down the trail toward hell.

And, and that was why, you know, I said, you know, Williams, Jenny Bryant was really not prepared for the argument. They suggest that he won. But the reality in my mind is, is he didn't win because he really opened up the door in the scopes trial, and gave validity to the other side, that that it doesn't exist, that isn't real. It's all it's all smoke and mirrors.

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Instead, we are fighting an ideological battle for control of our country by contributing to causes that support your constitutional rights. I am Patriot Mobile. This is my very special friend that's with me. It's Scott Lively. And I want to encourage you, by the way, ScottLively.net. ScottLively.net. You can watch his podcast there. You can also sign up for his emails. He has some just incredible information. I love to read Scott's emails that I get from him and would encourage you to get signed up there as well.

ScottLively.net. Scott, as in our closing segment, I want to bring this back to your studies relative to the Pink Swastika and the parallelisms between what that was and what we have now and the rise of that militants. Within our own US structure. But Germany was the dress rehearsal for the US or for what's happened in the US. The global LGBT movement really came to power in Germany from the 1860s all the way up through the Third Reich. The roots of the modern LGBT movement really go back to the Marquis de Sade, according to their own historians. But the political movement really began in the 1860s with Karl Heinrich Ulrichs, the so-called grandfather of gay rights, who was a homosexual wanting to overturn the paragraph 175 of the German legal code that criminalized sodomy. And a whole movement was built around that. He had a weird sort of quasi-occult philosophy and ideology that said that homosexuals were under the ninth muse.

Right. This is all kind of tied up in occultism and that and that male homosexuals were really female souls trapped inside men's bodies and reversed for lesbians. They called the men earnings and the women dailings, his own terminology and everything. And essentially that really meant that male homosexuals were really women. And that was extremely offensive to the masculine oriented homosexuals.

Homosexual dysfunction, gender identity disorder, spans a whole spectrum from extreme femininity on one side to extreme masculinity on the other side, all across the whole spectrum. And the Hellenistic idea as well, right? And that the butch side, the masculine side, they sort of reached back to the ancient Greeks, the Spartans. Ancient Greece had mandatory induction of boys into the military where they were given to homosexuals for military training.

And that, I mean, this is a fact of history. And the butch homosexuals of pre-Nazi Germany, you know, they sort of revolted against Hirsch, against Ulrich's theories that were then carried on by Magnus Hirschfeld during the Nazi period. And this schism that emerged, that pitted the butch homosexuals against the femmes really explains all of the persecution of homosexuals that did exist. I mean, it wasn't on a huge scale, but it was noticeable. And the ones who did actually go were sent to work camps, labor camps mostly, not the death camps unless they happen to be Jewish or Slavic.

You know, there is some facts. But they were effeminate. Right, those were the effeminate ones. Although there were, after the Rome purge, see, Ernst Röhm was the most famous homosexual of the early Nazis. He was recruited into homosexuality by Gerhard Rasbach, who was the founder of the Rasbachbund, a German association of former World War I soldiers, or all homosexuals.

See, the Treaty of Versailles limited the German society to, the military to 100,000 men in arms, putting out an enormous number of soldiers out of work. And the nationalists, they kept them all organized under the control of the junior officers in these Freikorps, they were called, and they posed as sporting groups and things like that. The Rasbachbund was one of those Freikorps, exclusively homosexual, and distinct from the others because the other ones were still wearing the uniforms, the gray uniforms from World War I of the military. The Rasbachbund was wearing the brown uniforms from the colonies that Germany had lost in Africa during World War I. And so they came known as the Brownshirts. And I mean, that's the origin of the Brownshirts, it was the Rasbachbund.

And Rasbach recruited Ernst Röhm into homosexuality, who became the power behind the throne, actually was more powerful than Hitler in the early years of the Nazi party. And there is a correlation because look what's happening in our own military. In our military now, when they when they did away with Don't Ask, Don't Tell, they started moving towards if you didn't, I mean, I've had chaplain friends that were attacked for this and so on. If you don't embrace homosexuality in our military today, then you're out.

And I actually wrote a soldier story that was predicated on facts about a soldier that was raped over in Afghanistan by Afghanis in the shower. It's ubiquitous. And the problem, the bigger problem right now is there's no schism anymore. The butchers and the femmes are unified. And so there is no internecine conflict going on that would weaken them.

They are they are fully unified. And, and it speaks to the issue here, just because we only got a couple minutes left. But the issue here is, is when we think about would our military turn on the civilian population, a military with no morals, which is what we're talking about, is a military that that that would have no issue with coming against the civilian population. It was Bush's defense secretary, Robert Gates, that was the one that left that orchestrated the don't the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and then went over onto the board of the Boy Scouts of America and did the same thing there.

So this isn't even this isn't even start with the clip. This goes to the back to the Bush's. Bush's doing this, even before the Clintons were doing it. And so there is a there's been a homosexual ization of the entire culture, including the military. And now because the federal government is under the control of the cultural Marxist, they're using their ability to force the agenda through the military, because the people in the military have the least amount of rights, right relative to to the citizenry. You know, they it's that's why they they are still trying to force the vaccines on them.

Absolutely. And this is all and they've been guinea pigs all along all going all the way back. You know, there's one argument that that says that that the so called Spanish flu was actually pulmonary equine pulmonary emphysema that was actually in the from horse blood that Rockefeller was developing vaccines from right was injected into the soldiers because they couldn't say no. And then it spread all over the whole world from the soldiers who had got this disease because it bypassed their own immune system. You know, that just the point being that right the military is subject to a much higher degree of control over their bodies and their lives than anybody else.

And so now they're they're sort of the point of the spear and guinea pigs in America, and an example of what's coming for everybody else. Oh, that well, the end and the social experiments, all of that is all relative. You can look at because it was the UCMJ was the gold standard of moral conduct, and moral and righteous discipline. Even today, I think I think adultery is still illegal under the military under UCMJ. Yeah, well, yeah, but they not enforced, right, but they but they they repealed. Congress repealed the the law against sodomy and bestiality in order to in order to be able to to to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell, they had to do that first. Otherwise, the law would have contradicted the change in policy. So and because because sodomy and bestiality are those laws go all the way back to Leviticus 2018 22 and well, and Scalia wrote in the Lawrence decision, he said, this is where you're taking America, understand where you're going.

When you pull this, once you've opened the floodgate by repealing Lawrence, this is where you're headed. And once that was the sodomy, that was the sodomy, right? Exactly.

And immediately after Lawrence, I mean, I, my partner and I were the only attorneys in the in the country, we got 10 seconds, 10 seconds, get it in that that that asked the court not to take that case. Yeah. Well, and there you go.

Scott Lively. Not our last time together. By the way, we'll do this again. We got a lot to talk about. I appreciate you, Scott. Thanks for being with me.

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