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Thanks so much for being here. I know you have a choice of where you can listen each and every day. And I thank you for keeping it tuned here to Chosen Generation Radio, hour number two, hour number two. And if you get a chance, you should tune in and listen to our podcast from hour number one. Hope that you will take the time to give it a listen. And we talked quite a bit about the Ukraine situation from a couple of different angles, including whether or not, you know, America has a biblical Christian responsibility to be engaged. And and then the counterargument regarding, you know, getting our own house in order before we before we take that step.
So at any rate, I encourage you to do that. I am very, very, very excited, though, to have my next guest with me. He is a retired CIA station chief. He is the station chief.
You can find him at Newsmax as the station chief. And it's my pleasure to welcome to the program, Scott Ulinger. Scott, welcome.
Good to have you back. Thanks a lot, Pastor Greg. I might also add that if anyone is interested in I'm interested in reaching out as a speaker to different groups.
So on intelligence or Russia or Iran or other international security threat. So if any, any group is interested in booking me as a speaker, they can perhaps contact you first. Absolutely. And you can do that at Pastor Greg at chosen generation radio dot com.
That's Pastor Greg at chosen generation radio dot com and just put the station chief in the in the title. And and I'll know that you're contacting me to set up a time to have Scott Ulinger come to your group and speak and then we'll work out the arrangements with you. OK, my friend. So let's let's let's kind of dive into this. I'd like to start with the Ukrainian situation and and get your get your take on that.
And then I'd like to come back home to America. And I think there's a there's a clear path to get back here relative to some of the people that are out there talking about the CIA's involvement in possibly putting Zelensky into power. The CIA's involvement in bio labs in the Ukraine, you know, all that all that kind of stuff. And then we can kind of get into CIA FBI corruption and what have you on the back half of this. So let's start with with some analysis on Russia and and this Ukraine invasion. And it's obviously not going anywhere near as well as Putin would have liked.
No. In fact, the entire thing basically is we'll maybe go down in history as a great intelligence failure. You know, another great intelligence failure would be, you know, the CIA and FBI not putting the pieces together about 9-11.
And so this would definitely be of a similar ranking. He has made tremendous errors by underestimating the Ukrainian resistance, believing his own B.S. that it will be a rollover, overestimating the ability of his own armed forces. You know, besides the fact that they've had a 14 year modernization program, it's clear that the endemic corruption in the Russian society and the Russian military historically has resulted in a military that is not nearly as good as it thought it was, or at least as good as Putin thought it was.
So he's seeing that now in real time. And then, of course, the other thing, other major miscalculation was because the world kind of turned away in 08 when he invaded Georgia in 2014, when he took Crimea and in the Donbas region. He he totally misunderstood the Western reaction to this, which has been fairly swift and resolute. And it's really going to in long in the long term, this response to sanctions, et cetera, are going to damage Russia fairly severely.
Although I don't think that that is something that's going to discourage the aggression, unfortunately, because unfortunately, it's hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube. You know, like much better would have been to have a stronger form of deterrence from happening in the first place. Right. It would be, you know, you wouldn't have nearly the heartache and the death and destruction that we've seen if we had thought more about deterrence. And so and so now we're dealing with, you know, sanctions and all. And so but those will take effect.
They have taken effect, but they will do they will feel themselves much more likely six months down the line. But but sanctions are a poor way to try to stop someone from doing something once they've started. That's the problem.
Well, and isn't it also an issue? Just simply the fact that we know that Putin I mean, Putin has in his mind that he is rebuilding the Soviet Union. He is he is rebuilding the empire and he is the guy that is going to restore Russian glory. And man, the echoes of that to, you know, to the to the Hitler idea, right. Hitler's idea that he was going to restore, you know, Germany's empire. I mean, I don't think I don't think you can avoid making that historical comparison.
No, there's there's this one guy on Twitter I would recommend people follow him. He's like an ethnic to tar or something. But a Russian speaker who is educated in Russia. The guy has incredible insight into into Russia. Some people may disagree with something he says.
I don't I have less of a problem with it, but the guy's brilliant. And I think that if you read about five or six of this guy's threads, it's like the equivalent of getting a master's degree in Russia and Russian history. And his name is Kamil Goliath.
So it's K A M I L. And his last name is G A L E B and he's on Twitter. And the guy I just stumbled on him about a week ago. Now, I just read religiously everything he writes because it's fascinating that he's an insider writing the way Russians think. And it's just fascinating stuff. The other thing like about negotiations, let's say that are going on.
I'm kind of pessimistic about those. Goliath pointed out that if you look at, you know, you can tell if somebody is serious about negotiations, depending on who they send to perform the negotiations. And the person they sent is a non entity named Medinsky. He is like an officer in the Ministry of Culture, which is kind of a joke. So the fact that Putin has sent him as head of a negotiation delegation shows that Putin is not serious about negotiation. But if he was really serious, he would have sent somebody from the intelligence or security services.
Sure. Because that's what this state is. This state is an intelligence security service in the Soviet Union.
The party, the party was over everything. And now the only difference is that now it's the intelligence and security services are over everything. So if without one of those guys as the head of that delegation, that delegation has no authority. That's right. Right. And so that's in keeping with the idea that they so he's not serious about negotiation.
Right. That is in keeping with the idea that he has crossed the Rubicon in this case and he cannot. Putin is in a position that this is the other thing. This is talking about Russian history now. Russian history.
I interpret it a certain way, but a lot of people interpret it the same way. And importantly, Putin is a student of Russian history. Yeah. So I believe what he has taken from Russian history is similar to what I have taken or Goliath or other people. So in other words, we're all reading the same script. And the script is that if you come home to Russia and you've lost a war like this one, it is absolutely devastating.
Right. In 1905, the rest of Japanese war started and everyone thought it would be a walkover to defeat the inferior Japanese. The great Slavic people would be victorious. And in 1905, it was basically a draw. The Russians had some humiliating defeats at sea, not so much on land. But that actually that piece was negotiated by Teddy Roosevelt of all people.
So in other words, it was a negotiated settlement. It wasn't an outright defeat, but that was good enough. And the Russian revolution almost kicked off in 1905. That was the beginning of the end of the regime in the Afghanistan campaign. Afghanistan never got close to bankrupting the Soviet Union. But the image and it wasn't like the Afghanis were ever a threat to Russia, but that defeat sort of defeat because it wasn't a complete defeat. But that defeat was enough that that was a major step in the collapse of the Soviet. And Putin sees these things and he knows his history of Russia.
I mean, a lot better than I do. He's one. He is a Russian. And so I think the lesson he's taken is he cannot even concede anything in this conflict without his regime being in danger. That would even include even that might include even, you know, like, OK, let's kind of give this guy an off ramp and he can kind of claim victory. Because some people say, well, the Russian people are going to see right through that. They're going to see it's not a real victory and he's going to have the same problem. Well, you can you can identify that, Scott, by that by the newscaster that ran on to the set of station one, the the official news networks, you know, with a sign and screaming, you know, no war. We don't want war.
Get out in the streets and protest. I mean, that's that's you're talking about, you know, revolutions right there. Right. I mean, that's pretty significant. And she's disappeared. Right. And she's going to identify. We know who she is. And she's like, hasn't been seen in 24 hours.
That's right. So, well, there's other signs. There's other signs. Like, for example, they're starting to recruit Syrians and they were recruiting Chechens to fight there. Now, see, for people to understand the history, recruiting Chechens is very significant because the Chechens and the Cossacks were always mortal enemies.
The Cossacks, like a lot of Ukrainians like to think they have Cossack blood. And so like deliberately bringing in mercenary fighters who are like the sworn enemy of the Ukrainians is a big psychological move and shows you how serious Putin is. Now, he's bringing in the Syrians. And one reason maybe he's doing that is because he has overcommitted.
He's over he's overcommitted his forces and he does not want to increase like mandatory service conscription in Russia already. Let me let me let me just ask this question real quick, because you brought in the Syrian situation and Iran just shot that missile to the consulate. My interpretation of that is right.
Not that I ran. That wasn't directed at us and it wasn't even directed at what they said it was. That that's all cover.
That was directed at Putin to say, hey, dude, what are you doing? You promised us certain things. You're failing over there. And now you're taking some of my troops over there because you're failing.
I hadn't thought about that. That's certainly that's a possibility. Also, the Russians are the JCPOA, the negotiations with Iran continue with the Biden administration. And it's abysmal. It's a terrible thing. You know, let's let's let's set up something. So we have another major security crisis in the Middle East.
Because we don't have enough problems right now. Right. So. But Russia is kind of interfering in the Iranian deal and which which may endanger the deal, which I welcome. I want to see that deal.
I never want to see it. See the light of day. Right. But it's possible to maybe even that was another reason for that air bill missile strike. That may have been another message to Putin, because they're kind of mad that he's kind of using the Ukrainian complex as a way to kind of get Russia's national interests. But filled in the Iranian deal as opposed to just Iraq. So, you know, there are there are just there are multiple wheels with lots of layers saying it's very hard.
It's very hard to figure out. All right. Couple of things we're going to hit when we get back. Putin is being described by some as a hero.
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Pastor Greg. And don't forget, you can get more chosen generation at www.chosengenerationradio.com. And welcome back to chosen generation radio. My special guest is Scott Ewing, a retired CIA station chief. Scott, you were stationed over, by the way, in that part of the world during the Cold War. Can you just very briefly tell folks where you were at and and and and how you're able to have kind of a very unique behind the scenes perspective?
I know you there are certain things that we still can't talk about. Right. But right. But but, you know, just as far as how you're looking at this, how you're able to frame who Russia is. Right. I think it is important for people to understand, because as we were talking offline, there are a lot of people with a lot of different maybe political agendas for forecasting things a certain way. More than most people.
I really try. And because remember, I went into this kind of work in the mid 90s before politics got so are American politics got so involved in foreign policy to some degree. So what I'm saying is I tend to look at Russia, let's say, more purely. I tend to look at it based on my knowledge and experience over there, my knowledge of Russian history, my knowledge of a lot of Russian individuals, some of whom I recruited for the CIA to work against Russia. And I don't look at it with a certain political ax to ground.
OK. And you see that I think now on both sides, liberals and conservatives have a political ax to run now. So, like, I tend to see Russia a certain way and maybe chips fall where they may. In other words, some things I could say about Russia would really annoy maybe some conservatives. And some things I say about Russia would really, really annoy some liberals.
But I don't care how your politics makes you interpret it. I see Russia in a certain way, and that's just the way it is. So, you know, to your people perspective, I live more than a decade over there. I was deputy chief of station in Baku, Azerbaijan, where I worked primarily against Russia and Iran, which was next door. I was COS in Moldova, which is right next to Ukraine.
And my wife's family is right now hosting Ukrainian refugees as we speak. And I was in Central Asia, in Tajikistan, which is right next to Afghanistan. And I was in Estonia, in the Baltics, which is right next to Russia in that on that area of the world. So I was literally on the entire periphery of the Soviet Union in all parts of it. I was in the Baltic states, the Caucasus, Central Asia and Eastern Europe.
And frankly, it would be very hard to find somebody with my level and breadth of experience in that area, period. So taking that into consideration when someone frames Putin and says, oh, no, Vladimir Putin, he's he's a hero. He's fighting back against the globalists. He's he's fighting against the economic reset that the globalists are trying to do.
And and oh, my gosh, we're pushing Putin into the arms of Xi. Your thoughts? Right.
Right. I mean, well, first of all, you know, I would I agree with a lot of ideas of the global elites and things like that. And I don't think that that's something that concerns me. And at the same time, I will agree that Putin is definitely sort of wants his own, has his own agenda and doesn't and maybe is opposed to the globalist agenda. But that does not mean that's just part of who Putin is. But that doesn't mean that he is some kind of a force for good.
Quite the contrary. You know, he is a force for evil and destruction. That doesn't mean that every single thing the man says is wrong. The same way that I believe that, you know, President Trump was a good president. But that doesn't mean every single thing out of his mouth is correct. A lot of things he was wrong about, but most of the time Trump was right.
And I agree with his leadership. But, you know, so it's just more nuanced than that. So Putin is a threat. OK, like for instance, I was in like to be a story. I was in Azerbaijan when it was the development revolution. That was the I think it was a revolution, the tulip revolution in Kyrgyz thing in Central Asia. I was in the Caucasus when that broke out in Central Asia. And immediately this and it was what was it was kind of like Kazakhstan, which happened only a few months ago.
People barely remember. It was people finally reached the breaking point. They're tired of seeing oligarchs with 18 houses and they can barely afford gas to keep their house. And people eventually get tired of it and they start rebelling and they go out on the street.
They even do this in China a lot, but you just don't hear about it because they suppress it. So in Kazakhstan, you had that in Kyrgyzstan, you had a more massive riot. And the president, who was a Kaya fled to Moscow and they had a new government put in.
And I don't think it was much better than the old one. But people simply got tired and wanted some kind of change because they're just tired of living poor lives. So but immediately the propaganda machine of Russia starts saying, OK, well, obviously what happened in Kyrgyzstan was a CIA plot. Because think about it, if you're Putin or Russia or anybody, it's much easier to believe that that whole revolution was six guys like me inciting people to riot versus the fact that no, it's because you're repressing 500000 people and they're getting sick and tired.
OK. And I saw this and I saw this in action in real time. I saw the Russian intel services giving intelligence memos to all of their allies or all of their friends and maybe not even friends saying, we know for a fact that there were six CIA agents involved in overthrowing Kyrgyzstan. And it was an absolute lie because, again, it's an easier lie to believe. So and there were so breaking to like Ukraine. There are people who said that the Ukrainian revolution, which happened, by the way, when I was in Azerbaijan as well, was a result of the CIA. And again, I absolutely disagree with that because I saw no indication of that when I was over there. And also, it was simply people were tired of living the way they were. And that's a lot more of a bitter pill to swallow.
So when people say things like, oh, Zelensky was installed by the United States, I don't I mean, that's not to say there's no corruption in Ukraine, because there's a lot of corruption. All right. We'll be back to talk about it right after. Are you getting up in the morning feeling like you and your bed had a bad night, still tired? Stop.
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Some of which seem to imply that Vladimir Putin, who is a former KGB and and and. OK, I'm going to say something, Scott, and I and I may get somebody upset, but what are you going to do? You know, when when you talk to somebody who has served in the Marine Corps and they're retired, they will sell you once a Marine, always a Marine. And that's a good thing.
There's nothing wrong. It gets positive. KGB is the same way. Once you're in the club, you're in the club. OK, I mean, it's like, you know, you're if you're in the mob, if you're in the mafia, if you're in a Mexican gang, if you're a crip, if you're a blood. You're in once you're in, you're in.
And I know that somebody can have a real, you know, a Christian conversion experience. That's right. And and they will honor that. OK, but that's not what's going on with Vladimir Putin. Vladimir Putin is KGB. That's why you said at the top of the last hour when you talked about, you know, the negotiations and who would you send? That's why a security or an intel person sitting at that table would tell us that the Russians are serious about a negotiation.
And the reason why is, is that that is the that that's our click. That's the power click that Putin is a part of. He is a dictator.
He is an authoritarian, but he does have to have the support of a certain element. And that element is all of the former KGB and the security apparatus that was a part of the Soviet Union. That's right. And people also.
That's right. People even have to understand that, like for example, the military. So Putin was never in the military, but Putin always has an inherent distrust of the military because he is an intel officer and intel officers in the military generally do not mix, especially in Russia. So what I'm saying is, is that he is very wary of the army becoming too powerful because if they become too powerful, they could try to take over from him.
And there are historical precedents. Zhukov, the victorious Russian marshal or general in World War Two. Stalin was not happy with him because he was so popular with the people that, you know, these sick authoritarians, it's all about me. So they're like, he's like, wait a minute, if Zhukov is popular, that means I'm less popular.
So I've got to isolate that guy because he's after my job or people are going to kill me and put him in my place. So Putin has got a life, has got to juggle all kinds of things that most of the time American leaders don't have to juggle. He has to juggle the potential loyalty of his military. You know, at the same time, he wants them to prosecute a war that no doubt they're very pissed off about because he did not give them the proper guidance or maybe even properly support them. And so he's worried about it. He's worried about the military.
I got stories coming in from Pastor Vitaly in the Ukraine talking about that. And, you know, remember, you know, where they talk about it as a civil war. It's not a civil war. This is a this is a country invading another country.
But there are relationships because there are people who are Ukrainian living in the Ukraine who have family relatives that live in Russia. And so there is information going back and forth. And soldiers are talking about the rations that they have are like five years old. They're old, stale rations. That's one of the reasons they're going into some of the villages that they're going into and into homes.
They're trying to find food. They're literally starving to death. Another thing I noticed is that what you're seeing a lot of and I think this is like this little nuance, but like you're seeing a lot of Russian captured Russian soldiers by the Ukraine and they're being used as propaganda tools. OK. Technically, that is against the Geneva code.
OK. But it's also against Geneva code to before the hospital. So like I'm going to give that to the Ukrainian. Now, is it possible that the craniums are torturing some of the Russian prisoners? That is a possibility.
It would be ridiculous for me to say that is an impossible. However, what I'm interested in is the fact that the Ukrainians seem to have the be putting on television a fairly large number of Russian soldiers, including officers, including the lieutenant colonel in the Russian Air Force. I would but I might add, they put a picture online of him in a picture with Putin in Syria because the lieutenant colonel was flying in Syria. And these people are they're under duress. And OK, maybe they feel they are going to be beaten, you know, like much like our POWs in Vietnam.
But I don't think it's I think it's not as malevolent as that. And they are willing to say this is a lie. What is being done is terrible.
What I've been asked to do is terrible. So if one person or two persons said that, I would say, OK, well, whatever the Ukrainians torture them, Ukrainians blackmail them, something. But we're talking about at this point, I think maybe at least a dozen that have been willing to do that. And I and that kind of speech to me, because that tells me that these guys, at least most of them, did not require a lot of convincing. Right. Coercion, whatever you express. Right.
They were not coerced greatly. No. To put these to put this sit up in front of Ukrainian television with your full name right there on a card in front of you. Right. Knowing what you're going to face in Russia, when if you ever, if you ever ever go back.
Right. And so the fact that they're willing to say these things tells me, well, that, you know, these soldiers, a lot of them are shocked at what they've actually wrought when they've been brought on the ground to say, hey, this is what your bombing did. They cannot believe it. And of course, because it's Slav against Slav and not Slav against Syrian.
This really strikes home to. Well, I'll tell you, though, to that, though, yesterday and I shared this yesterday, there was a Russian I'm trying to see if I can if I can find that story. But it was up on CNN. It was an interview that they did where there was a foreign Russian minister who called out one of the the the the other Russian who's who's in power right now and said that he was. Oh, here it is right here, ex top Russian Andrei Kuzirov, a former Russian foreign minister, discusses his former deputy Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, and his lies about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. So he came on to CNN and said they're lying. They are lying. The Russians are lying. And, you know, and I mean, I don't know.
Well, I mean, what's what's in it for Kuzirov to write? Well, maybe maybe he was he may have been bounced out of the administration at some point. Clearly, he fell out of favor maybe a decade ago and when maybe and maybe he does have an accident. That's part of being an intelligence officer.
I understand that he may have an accident. However, that does not mean that every single thing out of his mouth is a lie. He has an ax to grind, but maybe that's what impels him to speak truth.
You see? So this is what intelligence is all about. You've got a way each person's motivation to give you that information. Maybe they're trying to influence your actions as much as inform you of the truth, like they're trying to steer you in a certain direction. And you've got to be aware of that. That's why when I look at all of these things, I tend to be somewhat moderate in my view.
And I look at like the preponderance of evidence to form like my opinion. I don't just go off based on what one Russian said. Well, like I said, like when you look at the, you know, the dozen Russian troops who were speaking out against Putin, it's not two or three dozen.
Well, that's why that's why I brought up this particular individual as well, because he is in line with what they are saying. And the pastor that I'm talking to on the ground just outside of Kiev is hearing the same stories. He's hearing, too, from Russian soldiers, you know, who are who are saying, you know, look, we this we don't want to be here. You know, we talk, you know, go ahead. Let's talk about something.
Let's talk about something we haven't talked about ever. And that is the role of the Russian Orthodox Church. Now, the Russian Orthodox Church has always had problems because for one thing, they were kind of brought back by Stalin after being illegal. They were kind of brought back by Stalin. But it was kind of an agreement with fate because they kind of agreed that they would sort of allow themselves to be sometimes used against the people. Like, in other words, that they could insert the KGB into the Russian Orthodox Church.
Yeah. And so what's happened now is Kirill Cyril, basically, is the English anglicized, is the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church. And he is absolutely in Putin's camp, such that there's a schism between the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and the Russian.
And it's stuff I don't I'm not exactly knowledgeable about. My wife is, is Orthodox, Moldova Orthodox. And I think they look to the authority of either the Greeks or the and also Remanians are Orthodox, too.
So I don't know where they look for God's maybe Greece. But there is obviously a but the patriarch in Moscow is talking. I mean, he is like spouting some unbelievable stuff about how, like, next is Moldova to be absorbed by us. He even mentions the Baltics. And so it's it's a terrible case of, you know, a patriarch who is in compromise.
We're going to we're going to run out of time in this segment. But but that what that speaks to, Scott, is is that speaks to the issue of the church, just like the church was used as a mouthpiece by Hitler. Remember that Hitler and Nazi Germany used the church as well, and he used it as a weapon.
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Visit Insight for Living's website at insight.org. And welcome back to Chosen Generation Radio. I'm your host, Pastor Greg. Okay, I want to get this in because we were talking about this, Scott, and you had brought up, you know, the Russian Orthodox Church. You know, let's not forget that, again, Hitler used the church in Germany. And if you watch the film, which is a true account of the experience of the youth that stayed in the Ten Boom home and that were a part of the underground efforts to save Jews in Holland, and they had a meeting with the high council of the Holland Church. And the high council basically said, we're not going to help you.
And when the boxcars would go by filled with Jews on their way to the gas chambers, the choir director would literally have the choir sing louder to drown out the voices of those screaming and crying that were going by on the train track. So, you know, the church, you know, the church, you could say, has a dark stain. But I think the problem, Scott, is that the church is not remembering a few key things that Jesus Christ said. The kingdom of heaven is at hand, repent. That means turn from your sin. And Jesus is teaching to Nicodemus that a man must be born again in order for something to be born again.
That means something else has to die. We're too much like Peter Pan trying to fly around and find Wendy's window in order to get our old man sewed back on when Jesus Christ is saying, you are crucified with me. Crucified means your old nature dies, ladies and gentlemen. That is how we overcome sin and death. By killing the old nature, God doesn't put lipstick on a pig and then call it good.
That pig is crucified. Your old nature dies. And that's good news because that's where the freedom and the liberty is. And I encourage everyone that I talk to, repeat and declare Galatians 2 20 over yourself every morning. Every morning.
Remind yourself. Paul says, I die daily. That's what he's talking about. He's saying, I remind myself every day that my old nature, my old man has died with Christ and I am a new creation in Christ. And therefore, I am no longer bound to sin. I don't have to be bound in it.
That's the good news. To what you were talking about, you know, too, there is significant issue with some of the conversation about where America should stand in this battle. I'm hearing from Ukrainians on the ground that are saying we don't want NATO forces, we don't want UN forces and we don't want U.S. soldiers to die on our behalf.
We're willing to fight this fight for ourselves, but we do need some support, some auxiliary support in order to be able to make this a semi-fair fight. Right, exactly. And I think that we're seeing, we're certainly seeing that with Ukrainians more than, I mean, literally any other kind of insurgency invasion I've ever heard of. What I'm saying is, you can go all the way back to Vietnam. You know, that was even in Vietnam, they always used to say, you know, why do we have to do things that Vietnamese boys are not willing to do? That was right. That's what they were saying then.
But what I'm saying is, you're not seeing that in Ukraine. These people, right, these people are willing to do the heavy lifting. They're willing to fight.
Right. And so our job is relatively easy because it's not like they're begging, they're not begging for our manpower. They're begging for material assistance. And so they're clearly willing to fight. And all the refugees leaving are all women and children. And all the men are staying, unlike, let's say, the Syrian refugees, where everyone who was immigrating to Europe was like a male of military age.
And another correlation, too, that, you know, is getting misconstrued, and I just thought of something else that I'll throw into this conversation. But, you know, in World War II, there were a lot of Americans that went over and fought. The American Foreign Legion was created and flew and fought out of France and out of the UK. But there were Americans that went over there long before the United States was ever engaged or involved in the war that saw what was going on and wanted to go and fight. They felt led to do that.
And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And I know that, you know, when ISIS was rising and all the Christians were being slaughtered, there were guys like Sargis, right, who went over there and helped train up Christians to fight. There was Matthew Van Slyke, I think it is, Sons of Liberty, who raised up and they trained up Christians and helped Christians to be able to defend their own properties and territories against jihadis and against ISIS and so on. So, you know, this has been a long-standing thing, and I don't think that that is an implication that, oh, well, yeah, see, Ukraine is asking for Americans to come and fight. No, Ukraine is saying, hey, if you want to come help us voluntarily, that's great, but we're not asking for the United States as a state to intervene. That's right, and that's an important difference, right, and Americans have always had a history of, you know, fighting for the Lafayette Escadrille, flying with them in World War I and World War II, going into Canada and joining the RAF in, you know, 39, 40, before we were in the war. That's right, and there's always going to be people who do that, and if they want to and they feel compelled by God to do that, then God bless them and let them go. You bet, you bet. You talked about the Syrian thing, right, that was very true there.
Those people really needed to help. Well, and I think also the fact, going back to the Russia side of this, Scott, the fact that Putin is shutting off Facebook, shutting off Twitter, shutting off the Internet, making it criminal to call the battle between Russia and Ukraine war. You can get up to 15 years, according to their new laws, dropping, you know, what I would refer to, being an old Cold War guy, as the Iron Curtain once again, and it is being called that once again. I mean, that's a pretty strong indication, Scott, of who Putin is and who it is that we're dealing with, in my estimation. That's right, and another thing that I wanted to add is that what's also happening is already, this is happening, there is a massive brain drain in Russia. A lot of people who were working for the West, who were working for the West, a lot of IT people who don't see a future in Russia have already fled the country. Places in Central Asia and the Caucasus airports outside of Russia, like in Georgia, in Tajikistan, in Uzbekistan, are absolutely flooded with Russians who are getting out. They can't get out through Europe anymore, but they're getting out into other former Soviet Union countries. I'm talking about thousands of people. The Russians are giving other Russian advice on how to get out of the country and urging any Russian who works in IT, do not tell the border card you work in IT.
Tell them you're a hairdresser. Because if you say you're from IT, they're going to turn you right back around and not let you leave the country. So this is another long-term effect on Russia, much like the Russian Revolution where all the white Russians, the royalists, the ones who were anti-communists, they spent 20 years outside of their country because they could never go back.
And that's what you're seeing again. You're seeing these people fleeing because there's no future in Russia. And so the times are not, only the ones who believe Putin's propaganda are going to stay, and they tend to be the stupider ones. The smarter ones are getting out or trying to get out. Well, and I think that that lends, again, additional validity to what is being said where, you know, there was an inference that this is Ukrainian propaganda with the Russian soldiers.
I don't think so. Because again, you wouldn't have all of these Russians trying to flee the country. You know, you wouldn't have Putin having to drop an iron curtain. You wouldn't have, you know, thousands of individuals that are being rounded up and journalists that are being shot. You wouldn't have these kinds of things going on if you were dealing with, you know, with an up and up Putin and a non-dictorial authoritarian form of government.
And that's what's happening over there. At the end of the day, when I stand before my God, I do not want him to ask me, what did you do with the world that I sent my son to die for and redeem? How did you fight the good fight to share the good news and keep evil in check?
How did you shine your light and be a beacon of truth in the darkness? Did you shrink back in fear when they demanded you change my message? Did you call evil good and good evil? Did you forsake my love for that of another, lying with the adulterer and setting up a new idol in your life? Have you defiled yourself through compromise and tolerance of that which I call an abomination? Have you innocent blood on your hands for the children murdered on your watch and the young ones perverted in their way by evil men, seeking their own comfort and reviling me?
No. At the end of the day, I want him to simply say the evidence is in. Well done, thou good and faithful servant. I love my God and I love his creation, and I will go to my grave telling the world that evil is evil and only God is good, and Jesus came to save the world.
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