Hi, this is Pastor Greg. I want to thank you for tuning in to Chosen Generation Radio. When God called me to start this program eight years ago, He led me to address three main topics while discussing current events through a biblical lens.
I knew this was not supposed to be a preaching program as there are a number of those on the radio. My calling was to address the LGBTQ agenda, Islam, and secular humanism. Just some non-controversial stuff.
But, to be fair, my destination is really at the core of the shift in understanding America's founding, Constitution, and the declaration of independence. By removing God and biblical values, it's easy to see how gender dysphoria, unnatural sexual desires, and embracing a confused seventh century belief that rejects life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Namely, Islam, a militant, geopolitical, totalitarian, and brutal regime, has taken root. suit of happiness, namely Islam, a militant, geopolitical, totalitarian, and brutal regime has taken root. I believe God has chosen this generation to ignite the passion to advance the radical message of the Gospel and to once again establish America as the salt and light through which the message is advanced.
Each segment applies that principle, no matter the topic. But how do we become this secular, democratic, non-theistic, top-down country run by a combination of demagoguery and elitism? I would suggest we examine our history. At America's founding, we had been oppressed by a tyrant king, claimed he actually spoke for God, and claimed a divine right monarchy.
In order to set people free from these kind of despot leaders, one must reconnect the people with the one who grants all freedom. And so preachers in the mid-1700s challenged the Christians in America to decide whom they should serve. Who was their king? Was it a man on a throne across the sea? Or was it the King of Kings, Jesus Christ?
You cannot serve two masters. As the founders fermented in this, they began to see the need to create a new kind of country, a nation that valued life and recognized God as the author, who had been set free to liberty in Christ and to pursue abundant life. No, these weren't pieces on a board passed to one and not to another, as John Locke suggested, but rather they were a very part of who being American was, a concept only understood through biblical glasses as a blood-bought son of God and heir to the promise. So why are Christians so docile? You see, we live in a world filled with sin that has taken a stand to call God the enemy. We are children of God, heirs to the promise, yet we stand idly by as our brothers and sisters are slaughtered and our children's innocence is destroyed.
Where is the anger and the rage at such atrocities? Jesus said it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea that he should offend one of these little ones. Jesus warned them not to cause harm or offense to the little ones, to the least of these. It would be better that a millstone were cast around his neck and he be drowned in the sea.
That's not docile in the face of offense being done to children. This is Jesus speaking, the one that they say only speaks soft, lovely words. Or what about these verses? If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded forth and came from God, nor have I come of myself, but he sent me. Why do you not understand my speech? Because you are not able to listen to my word. You are of your father, the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do.
Wow! To the leaders of the church, he says you are sons of the devil. You are deaf and unable to hear or understand the words of God because you do not know him. Yet day after day, Christians sit back silently, while little boys are chemically castrated, while children's minds are violated in a comprehensive sex education curriculum, while they are taught that America equals Christianity equals all white people are bad and they should be ashamed.
Let's be clear. If you believe in the truth of the Bible, then you believe that all are sinners and have fallen short of the glory of God, that God in his grace and mercy, while we were his enemies, doing all forms of vile behavior, sent his son, his only begotten son, to die for our sins, to lay down his perfect and sinless life as a human being, having set aside his divine nature to become a man so he could take our place and overcome sin and death on the cross. Jesus the Christ shed his blood, died on the cross, rose the third day, set free the captives, presented himself to the disciples and to several thousand and then ascended to heaven, at which point the Holy Spirit descended from heaven to lead us into all truth. Ultimately, then we understand that sin is the issue and the nature of man.
The key then is a confession of faith in God through Jesus Christ and asking for forgiveness of sin. I believe that we have been called, and it is the purpose of Children Generation Radio to raise up a generation to take back this nation, to reestablish a constitutional republic with Jesus Christ at its core, providing life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for all Americans and once again advancing the gospel of Jesus Christ. Welcome to Chosen Generation with your host, Pastor Greg Young. But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people that you should shoe forth the praises of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light which in time past were not a people but are now the people of God which had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.
And now, Chosen Generation, where no topic is off limits and everything is filtered through biblical glasses. And now, here's your host, Pastor Greg. And welcome to the program. Great to have you with me. Thanks so much for being here. I know you have a choice of where you can listen each and every day, and I am so very, very, very excited about all that we're going to talk about today.
Of course, there's a great deal going on in our world today, a lot happening in the Middle East, a lot happening with Ukraine, a lot happening in the world of foreign policy. We'll be joined at the bottom of our number two by Scott Uehlinger, the station chief. He's been doing a ton of interviews over in the Middle East as a matter of fact, but he is also a former station chief in the former Soviet Union for the CIA. So we will have him on the program with us today, and I'm very excited about that conversation. Top of the next hour, Sarah Carter joins us.
She was going to be with us right now, but Fox News actually called her in, and so we were needing to move her, and we did. And I'm going to tell you in a minute who my guest is going to be because I'm very excited to have, he's so gracious to be here with us on such short notice, and I'm thrilled to have him. Bottom of this hour, though, Vernon Jones will be with us. Vernon, of course, is running for governor in the great state of Georgia, but he also is someone who switched his political worldview, and Alveda King had a huge role in that, and it was really predicated on his understanding of the beginning of life in the womb and life at conception, and then he began to really look into even more significantly the values that drive our biblical Christian conservative worldview, and he has embraced that, switched political parties, and he's just a great guy. I met him in Dallas, had a chance to pray with him. We had an incredible God encounter, and I can just tell you, he's the real deal, and I'm very excited. He's going to be with us at the bottom of this hour.
We'll talk about a number of things with Vernon. But joining me now, and again, he is one of the world's most, I should be, sought after if he's not, and I don't follow enough to know for sure, but he should be one of the world's most sought after biblical, historical holders of truth and facts. And he's written several, well, he's written an incredible book that I have a copy of.
He's got another one he just told me that he's getting ready to write. We'll direct you to those. But I want to welcome to the program Dr. Christian Weidner. Dr. Weidner, welcome, good to have you. Oh, man, I'm just thrilled that you're here. I was mentioning to you in the green room something that God's really put on my heart this year, and I'm on now with Truth Broadcasting Network and on TECNTV.com, where I've been the number one rated show to out of the last three weeks. And one of the things that God's really put on my heart is to address this 70 percent of the population that is representing and calling themselves when they're asked, yes, we're Christian. And I think that's wonderful, by the way. I don't want to cast any aspersions here.
I think it's wonderful. But there's a lack of biblical, historical teaching and understanding of what that means and how they can defend, truly defend their faith, that there aren't, you know, 16 ways to heaven. Jesus Christ is it, OK? And God, yes, he inspired men, but there is historical evidence to support and validate the Old Testament and the New Testament. And I was thinking last night about this, Dr. Christian, the Iliad, right, which everyone agrees is a accurate historical document written by Homer, has what is it like, 450 transcripts, something like that? Yeah, but in ancient documents, it's like a dozen or something. OK, so. But yeah. Yeah. OK.
It's not very many. Right. And yet the New Testament has something like over twenty four thousand. Yeah.
Yeah. And an early one that has hundreds of the super early copies. And so, yeah, there's not there's orders of magnitudes of difference between the number of copies that we have for those documents. And yet they look at Homer's Iliad and they say, oh, yeah, that's for sure. That's a historical document. We know that that we trust everything that's written in there is is is is accurate. And Homer wrote that.
It's all good. And yet the New Testament, it's like, oh, well, you know, people that was just a bunch of guys and they got together over a couple of beers and they, you know, threw this thing together. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, because it comes down to one, there's no problem with what's being written. And in the other, they have a huge problem with what with what God has said. Well, because he's created a standard by which we're supposed to be living. And there are a lot of folks that don't like the standards that God has created.
But then I don't think preachers do a good enough job of expressing the full measure of what Jesus Christ accomplished for mankind on that cross, because it says that he overcame sin and death. Now, does that mean that we are and here's here's the here's the the the, you know, kind of the getting right down to it. Does that mean we're going to be sinless here? Well, I would suggest that what it means is, is that we can be now it may be you have a week or so or two weeks or three weeks or a month where you're just walking this out in full victory. And then you may have a hiccup that comes along. The good news is, is that Christ already defeated your hiccup. And you know, the power to reject them.
Yes, absolutely. And and I think a lot of it has to do then with how we perceive ourselves. Do we perceive ourselves as a sinner saved by grace so that I'm still in the same condition that I was before I encountered the cross? Or do I perceive myself as the saint that God says I am and saying that isn't about me. It's about Christ's righteousness working in me, which is a completed work.
And it's a paradigm shift in a way, away from the idea and again, it's not legalism. It's not works that save me. It's the full measure. And I love the definition, the Greek Charist definition that says that the power of God exerting himself on the soul of man to turn him and to keep him in Christian faith and Christian virtue. I mean, when you think about it like that, folks. It's saying whatever that thing is that you feel has a hold of you, that is causing you to feel some defeat and therefore, in a way, make an excuse, but you're not really trying to make an excuse. You're just trying to figure out how do I be, how do I claim this Christian thing and yet know that I'm not really living up to what I read I should be.
So I got to find some way to get there. And the good news is, as you said, you know, Christ, it's done. It is done. When Jesus says it is finished, he meant it. Now, what I want to get to today, though, is this, because there's still this issue and I ran into this just yesterday, it was somebody making the statement, well, you know, the Bible is just a book, an inspired book written by a bunch of men, a bunch of guys. You know, it's still just men that wrote this and it's just, you know, well, yeah, but it's just inspired. But I think there's an important issue here to understand the historical evidences of it and firsthand witness accounts of the things that are written and the scholarly position that Paul held, and the connection even from Old Testament to New Testament, and how history was passed down. And we've got, you know, about 10 minutes to try to do all that, doc. But help me out. I mean, help me with the argument that says that the Bible is more than just a bunch of guys that, you know, that think that they had an encounter and had a couple of beers and wrote a book.
Right. Yeah, well, and one of those things is because everything that we can go look into historically and investigate, hey, did that really event, that event really happen, was that a real place? As we go look, we find all those places. We don't know where every single place was, but so many of them we've been able to find and identify and go, oh, hey, look, that was a real historic place. There's a story about Paul, about them dropping anchors in order to be able to avoid a complete shipwreck as they were going. And they go and they dive and someone goes and looks and says, hey, look, here's some anchors that have been dropped in that place that was described matching the story. And I think a lot of those little things give a lot of confidence that they were giving you a real true historic account.
Well, and, you know, sadly, you know, one of the things that the ISIS situation did was destroy a lot of, especially, you know, in Christian areas that had been, that it had connection, like I believe there was a Coptic church that had been meeting for something like fifteen hundred years that because of ISIS, finally they had to shut the church down and they couldn't hold services. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes. Yep. Yeah.
Go ahead. No. Right. And they're destroying all those places. I mean, even like one of the most expensive places in Israel, outside of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount itself is Hebron, where the tombs of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are. You know, and you just go like, what do you mean they really have those tombs? And, you know, some people debate about that. But like, no, look, if you go down to that building, the tombs are there. They know where those where the patriarchs are buried. And that was, you know, almost four thousand years ago.
Well, the other one, the other one now and one that ISIS destroyed, right, was Jonah. Yes. Yeah.
And there's a and a lot of those places are outside of Israel and so there's really no protection for them hardly. Right. But but what I'm saying to you folks is, is so so the thing and we're going to get more into this. We've got another seven minutes. We're going to go on the other side of this break. But the thing, folks, that I really want you to understand as a believer is, is again it we have to understand the the historicity, if you will, of of the Bible and that it actually has historical evidence to support the things that are shared in there. So it's beyond that. And we'll talk in a minute about how history was passed down, because that's another important issue relative to the writing of the New Testament.
The fact that there are all these manuscripts that support it. But with all that and more coming up right after Hi, this Pastor Greg, host of the Children's Generation radio show. If you follow my program, you know, I'm a miracle survivor of a catastrophic car accident where I saved my daughter's life, spent six weeks on life support, died four times and broke bones in my head, neck, back ribs, arms, pelvis and both legs.
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And welcome back to Children Generation Radio, where no topic is off limits and everything filtered through biblical glasses. My special guest is Dr. Christian Widener. And Doc, tell folks your website, if you would be so kind. And I know the first book that you've written for us. And then are you teasing the second book yet or where are we at with that?
Yeah, I'm starting to I'm in the editing phase. So I have a website called End Times Berean dot com, E-N-D Times Berean dot com and Berean B-E-R-E-A-N like from the from the Bible. And so being a Berean about the last days and really thinking, you know, logically and evidence based about, you know, what are the reasons to think that we might be in the last days and how should we interpret those things, those clues that God has given us to recognize where we are in the season so that, you know, we are children of the of the of the day and we should not be taken by surprise by the things that God has told us to watch for. So that's really kind of the ministry and the focus. This next book is called No More Delay and is a I'm starting to tease that out.
It's about Daniel 77 and the decree that everyone missed. And so there's, I think, some exciting things to for people to be aware of in prophecy and really trusting with that the word of God is reliable, goes for the historical and it also goes for the future. What he's told us, you know, will happen is going to happen. Do I believe that?
Yes. That just like Noah in his day was told that a flood would come on the earth. We've been told that someday a judgment and the return of the Lord is coming and are we ready to recognize those signs? And your book, The Temple Revealed, is just really awesome because, again, you know, you go through the process of peeling back the layers of, you know, some deceptions, I guess you could call them, but they're just maybe miscalculations or what have you to help people to be able to understand exactly where that temple is and why that's so critically important to this next book and end times. But even more significant is that it proves the validity of Scripture and of history. There's questions about that, though, for, you know, how was history passed down?
Why did the Romans, as an example, pick the Jewish historian Josephus and why did they rely on him to be the writer of their history? Right, yeah, you think about the first century Jews and in a predominantly pagan culture who had the moral, you know, ethic that says, you know, do not bear false witness. That wasn't part of Roman culture or Greek culture, I mean, arguably they had some, but I mean, you're talking about a time where everybody was lying. And yet the Jews had this, you know, commandment, thou shalt not bear false witness. And I think that did make them more reliable people oftentimes in that time, although there's always been wicked people doing the wrong thing, and that's true among the Jews and among the pagans and people, you know, doing the right thing at certain moments. But that was their, you know, just like as a Christian culture, we're not always good in this country.
But there's been something about America that made people want to come here because it was predominantly a Christian ethic that was, you know, permeating our culture. Well and an understanding of, yeah, and I think also an understanding of what good looked like, you know, our founders said, you know, we're forming this nation, we're creating this constitutional document to form a more perfect union. So it wasn't that they sat there and said, yeah, we know we're, you know, we're all that. They sat there and they said, these are the things that we know that we can be, and this is the belief system upon which that will happen. Hang on one quick second.
We're live on the air. Hang on a minute. I'll be right back with you.
You got it? All right. So Dr. Christian, I guess so then the question, you know, again, that comes up is, you know, we have, for example, the idea that, you know, there's really no such thing as absolute truth. So I mean, that's a part of our culture, even amongst, you know, Christianity today, when you ask that question, George Barna has done that research, and you've only got about six percent of the population that holds to the idea that there is such a thing as absolute truth. And I think a lot of it has to do with the assaults and the attacks that have come against the Bible itself and the myriad translations and all these different things that have popped up in the last 40, 50 years.
Can you very quickly, you've got about 60 seconds to do this, but can you give me kind of a 60-second synopsis? Why do you believe that the Bible is a reliable historical book as well as religious? Yep. Yeah, well, in the first place, when you say there is no absolute truth, absolutely, it's a contradiction in terms, right? You're affirming an absolute truth that there is no truth. And so it's like it's totally wrong. If there's no truth, then there's nothing.
There's no hope. There's no purpose. There's no meaning.
So you have to stand on something. And the Word of God gives us an account from the very beginning of time all the way to really present events that we can see unfolding that are matching biblical prophecy. So every place that you can look to text scripture from Genesis to Revelation, there is evidence and good reason to believe the things that God has said. And that's one of the things that God required from us is faith.
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He is running for governor in the great state of Georgia. He has represented Georgia in Congress as well and really his encounter with Dr. Alveda King and his encounter in looking at life from conception had a phenomenal impact on his life and he and I had an incredible God moment in Dallas earlier this, early last year actually, and so it's my very, very sincere pleasure to welcome back to the program Vernon Jones. Vernon, welcome. Good to have you.
Thank you so much. Glad to be out here with you. It's an honor. We were, hey. Yes we did. We had, we had a, we had a, we had a very cool moment, didn't we? It was very nice.
God showed up. Well, I've got some questions for you. I, I, I, I wanted to, uh, to ask. One of them is having to do with defending constitutional carry, which is one of your legislative priorities. Talk to me about what makes that, uh, such an important issue for you. Well, constitutional carry is important, um, if we want to, if I could step back, let me say that.
Sure. I'm a protector and a defender of the second amendment. Um, we, we have the right to bear arms, it's in our constitution, so I will always fight for what's in the constitution. Secondly, when you start talking about constitutional carry, we need to carry a weapon. Um, um, I think that is something that law abiding citizens should be able to do. I can tell you this, uh, criminals who abused guns, they carry it every single day. Yeah.
And why can't we law abiding citizens be able to do that and have the law behind that? That's important. Yeah. So I am glad that, you know, our governor, uh, for the past three years had been hidden in the woods on constitutional carry. Now, uh, since I started to push on this within the past year, I'm glad to see him and quite frankly, all the candidates in this GOP race for governor come to my side, take the point for my time to my contract with Georgia.
And that is to pass the constitution here and based on what we hear now from the Senate and the house, who speak of the house, constitution theory, uh, has already been introduced as legislation and it will get approved this year, the legislature and I'm still pretty confident it's going to happen. And obviously the governor now wants to get on board. It wasn't there before, but now he wants to get on board. Better come late and never all again. There we go. There we go.
I guess so. We got the same problem with our governor here. He's had, he's had, uh, six years to secure the border of Texas and now all of a sudden in the last six months, he's decided it's important because the guys like Lieutenant Colonel Allen West and Don Huffines are, are, are pointing out the fact that he hasn't, uh, which, uh, we, we grassroots folks have been doing for quite some time. Uh, Georgia has also led the fight to protect the unborn. Uh, and, and of course they've gotten a lot of pushback on that, but I'm noticing that, that, uh, there are members of Hollywood that are still continuing to produce movies there, but how are you going to continue to fight that fight to protect the unborn in the state of Georgia? Well, you know, right now where you and I both know that the Supreme court now will be here in that case. And that's important. Uh, that's going to determine a lot of things as it comes to, uh, right to life.
As long as we can be, or continue to be, uh, advocate, be vocal, uh, be committed, be dedicated and take action on, on that cause, uh, legislature from around the country is going to hear from as well as courts. Um, you know, life starts at conception. Life doesn't start at six weeks, four weeks, five weeks. I believe that life starts at conception. You know, the passage I need before you were formed in your mom's womb. Um, um, so there are many of us are including, you mentioned Dr. Alveda King, who probably, um, has the greatest story to tell because you know, she had, she was openly in public to say that she had abortion and she was wrong.
It was the wrong thing to do. And she started reminding me of Saul, um, uh, on the road to master becoming Paul, where she went from having an abortion to leading the charge on preventing abortion. And I could tell you, I was raised conservative. I was raised pro-white. Um, when I was a part of the Democratic party and I look back now, I'm not a part, I realized a lot of things the Democratic party did had gotten me off the track of my religious belief and got me off track.
I was raised and thank God, you know, I was able to, to have my own road of the mouth and my own scale fall on my eyes. And when I realize now what, um, um, Margaret Sanger and Pan Pan were doing to the African American community, the number of unborn, um, that were, were boarded because of their genocide. It's just, it's, it's, it's, it's horrible.
Yeah, it's terrific. We had Reverend Clennard Childress Jr. on yesterday, I have him on on a monthly basis, and he is, of course, the one that puts those statistics together at blackgenocide.org. That's blackgenocide.org, folks, if you want to read about the history of that and understand that it's really something else. And to that end, too, you know, there's a couple of more issues that I want to get into with you. One of them is this issue of election integrity, because you talked about the deception that's been played upon the black community relative to the whole Planned Parenthood and how they really have gone into genocide and sterilize. It's horrible.
The story, I mean, it's horrible, folks, it's horrible. And I used to when Elijah Cummings was alive, I used to call his office oft times over issues that he was purporting. But one of the things that I would always encourage his staff to do and ask them about is I'd say, go look at blackgenocide.org. Did you know that your boss and the Black Caucus are funding the abortion that's genociding the black population in America? And they would be there'd be silence and they'd say, no.
And I'd say, well, you really should. You need to go look at that and then you need to confront your boss and ask him why he keeps voting to pay for that. Another issue is election integrity. And Georgia took a good firm stand to say, we want election integrity, we want everyone's vote to count, but we want people to have to present an identification. And the Democrats on the left have basically said, Vernon, that, well, I'm sorry, but that's racist because black people can't go out and find an ID.
Can you speak to that for a moment? I don't get it. Well, first of all, it's not racist, it's sheer raw ignorance on blacks who buy into that. And it is bigoted from those liberals who try to sell that to blacks. All that is about is trying to carry and pander to black voters, give the impression of the black people to try to keep you from voting, when in fact, they're starting to look at them.
And you check them if I'm wrong. Black people, first of all, it's offensive to say black people can't afford a free photo ID. It's free. It's free. All right.
And it's offensive to say that. Secondly, let's look at when you go get your driver's license or to have a driver's license, you have to have a photo ID. When you go to the doctor, sign up with a doctor's photo ID. When you go pick up your tickets from the Braves baseball game, photo ID. When you go to a hotel and check in, photo ID. When you, now you're in Washington, D.C., a black mayor of Washington, D.C., a majority council, African-American council, they have just passed that if you go into a restaurant, a fitness club, and a number of other public places, you have to show a photo ID.
Is that suppressing them? No, that whole thing is a hope, is nothing more than to use that, or liberal Democrats are using that to keep Adam's Americas on the plantation. I mean, whites have to stand in line and show an ID. Whites have to provide a copy of their photo ID when it's mailed in, when they're mailing that photo after it's out. So now you're saying that black people are deficient. Black people can't afford, black people can't get access to a photo ID. Last time I checked, there were a lot of poor white people out there. Matter of fact, there's more poor white people than black people. But ironically, many poor people, they actually have IDs because many of them are getting government assistance. Many of them are driving, doesn't mean that because you're poor, you can't have a driving license.
So when I hear that, it's just flat, it's just flat ignorance, it's flat bigoted. It is making black people feel that they're a victim. And the same black people who stand up, they're trying to discriminate against us with photo ID. I asked them, do you have a photo ID? Yeah. But poor people don't have to, whatever poor person you know that doesn't have a photo ID.
Right. So, but see, the Republicans failed. Or can't access one anyway.
Or can't access one. The Republicans failed to get ahead of that narrative from day one. From day one, the Republican Party should, that's why it's important to grow the Republican Party with minorities so they can have within their party people like myself and others that can push back from those fake, false and bigoted narratives where liberals are paying people like State Behaviors or others just to scare black people, to keep black people voting Democrat and voting for an interest that's not to their benefit. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, more with Vernon Jones.
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Thank you again so much for being here. I do know you have a choice on where you can listen each and every day, and I thank you for taking the time to be here with us on the program. So Vernon Jones is with us, that is jonesforgeorgia.com, and we are talking about the issue of ID and identification and visiting on that particular topic, and it made me think Vernon, and again thank you so much for being with me, I greatly appreciate that, it made me think about the issue of equity versus equality, Ward Connerly, I don't know if you know Ward or not, but Ward traveled all over the country, but specifically was involved in overturning affirmative action in California, and then holding that at bay so that it didn't happen when they tried to push it through again just this last year, and California overwhelmingly rejected the idea of affirmative action, because affirmative action is about this concept of equity, but it's not about equality. Can you talk about the difference and your thoughts on that? Well I'll tell you, the biggest affirmative action program that's going on right now is NFL Draft.
Now you say, Vernon, what are you talking about? Well think about it, the team that they feel is the worst team, they get the top players, is that not true? That's true. Isn't that affirmative action then? So the team, you have to look at affirmative action in a number of different ways, you can't look at it from just one perspective. What are you trying to do, you're trying to bring about equality, well let's talk about equality. When the Constitution said we all created equal, well that's not necessarily true, because some people may be born with deformities, some people just, and you know this yourself, some people may be born tall, some may be born short, if you really, I guess equality sometimes can be an eye to behold, but I think what we're trying to say is, everybody should be treated right, nobody should be rejected because of their race, nobody should be rejected because of their gender, nobody should be rejected because of their religion, everybody should be treated equally under the law. I think where you see sometimes, sometimes the law is just not enforced, alright, enforce the law, but enforce the law equally, so if you get caught with an ounce of cocaine and the law says, okay, you're going to be, here's the penalty, the judge has this discretion, but it doesn't include jail time, but then if someone else comes and they're convicted of the same crime, and you see that person gets jail time, I mean one can say wait, we're not being treated fairly, so let's try to be treated equally within the law, whatever the law says, and you start going outside of that and you start treating somebody different, it gives room for someone to say, hey wait a minute, you're not treating me the same, I'm equal, but then let's think about it equally, when I see biotransgender males participating in female sports, I'm sorry, that's not equal, because genetically you're just not made up of equal, that males tend to have body mass and muscular attributes that are different than a woman's, period, that's just the bottom line, it just is what it is, and so that's why you have these two extremes on both sides, it creates conflict, it creates confusion, but let's just, women's sports should be protected, and you're seeing now where males are participating in female sports, and the female is not having a fair chance to compete among her peers, it's others with body mass and genetic makeup like her, so sometimes it can be kind of testy, you just hope reasonable minds fit in, but I'll be clear about this, when it comes to affirmative action, I look at right now, I think it was in New York, where they decided to give COVID testing and vaccination, give a high priority to minorities, because they're saying, you can't believe the signs now on anything, they're saying, well they're most affected, but if there's a white person, or an Asian person, who needs to get access to testing kits, or to the COVID vaccination, and their health is at risk, they can't get it, because, oh, we need to say this and get this to a population based on their race, I just find that's just not right, it is just not right. And in education practices, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, I apologize, in education practices, lowering the expectations doesn't help a young person relative to their ability to achieve in the future, nor relative to their concept of understanding how important it is to work hard, and that if you work hard, then you can have success, that's the difference between equity and equality. Yeah, and I don't mean to cut you off, but you just said something that's so important, I was raised, my parents taught us some basic principles, it was just part of our upbringing, it's embedded in our DNA, you work hard, you pray hard, you get a good education, and things will come your way, if you're willing to do those things, it will come your way. When I look at schools, you have kids that are trapped in failing schools based on policy, that this kid, based on their family's address, they have to go to this school.
That's why I'm so supportive of schools short, where that parent has the option of sending their child, or either homeschooling their child, sending that child to a charter school, a dean school, a private school, a public school, whatever, but that parent short, and that money falls to the child, because many times the education equity is based on, again, if it's a failing school, and your kids are still going there, and you can't do anything about it, you can't afford to move, maybe, to a district, where it may be the school is at a high academic grade, but it may be an area where these parents can afford to get their kids tutors, and get some bat to help them, or get some private lessons. We're gonna run out of time here. Vernon Jones. Hi, this is Pastor Greg, host of the Chosen Generation Radio Show, reminding you that we have a two-hour program, Monday through Friday, with great interviews on topics that impact you. Our goal is to return our country to a biblically-based constitutional republic, as envisioned by our founding fathers, and what made our nation the greatest in the world for over 150 years. You are a part of that vision. So please join us at chosengenerationradio.com, chosengenerationradio.com, and sign up for our e-mails today.
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