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Call today, use the code chosen, patriotmobile.com forward slash chosen. You can support Chosen Generation and make a tax deductible donation by visiting www.chosengenerationradio.com. And now back to Chosen Generation with Pastor Greg. And welcome back to Chosen Generation Radio. I'm your host, Pastor Greg. Thanks so much for being here. I know you have a choice from where you can listen each and every day and I thank you so much for tuning in. Well, folks, I'm always, always excited to have my next guest with us. He is a former ICE director and worked under President Donald Trump and worked for our country before that as well.
He has been working for our nation in securing our border and dealing with issues at the border, illegal immigration and national security as a whole. And it is my sincere pleasure to welcome to the program, Tom Homan. Tom, welcome. Good to have you. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Absolutely. Dr. Peter Navarro said to tell you hello, by the way. Good man. Good man. Yeah, enjoyed having him earlier this morning.
It was a great, great, great time with him. Well, sir, you know, we had a wall being built. We had stay in Mexico policy. We had ICE was doing their job in rooting out the cartels and the drug dealership and the sex trafficking. I mean, there were so many stories of sex trafficking rings that were being broken up in the final 18 to 24 months of President Trump's presidency.
And now all of that has has has just been thrown out the window. Could you have imagined that it would have happened this fast? No, as a matter of fact, I testified yesterday in front of some Republican senators. And one of the comments I made was I've worked for six presidents, starting with Ronald Reagan. And every president I worked for said they wanted to secure the border. They had different ways of doing it.
Some had different opinions how to do it. And some some progress was made, but never did not get to where it needed to be until President Trump. The most.
The thing that really hurts me the most. Is now we have a president, President Biden. The president of the United States came into office and intentionally unsecured the most secure border we've ever had. We handed him the most secure border in my life. The immigration law, 80 percent drop goes down, 50 percent unprecedented levels of decreases.
And a president of the United States. Intentionally unsecured the secure border. We get help from the secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas, the secretary of Homeland Security, unsecured the border. They keep creating more and more policies that bring more and more people here.
And they did one thing as well. It's amazing that any president would do this or any secretary of Homeland Security to do this. They need to be impeached. They need to be removed because what they've done is not only anti-Americans against the oath they took when they took office.
It's amazing. I never thought I'd see a president go this far. To put the country at severe risk. It's not just an immigration issue. It's a public health issue with COVID and fentanyl.
It's a public safety issue. All the criminals come across forms with already arrested 10,000 criminals, 54 of them committed a homicide. So with 400,000 got away, how many of them have COVID? How many of them are criminals? How many of them are gang members?
And most importantly, it's the national security crisis. How many of the 400,000 were known as suspected terrorists? We already know the board was arrested 17 on terrorist watch lists. These are people who don't want to get arrested.
These people try not to get arrested. So if they're arrested 17, how many of the 400,000 got away could be known as suspected terrorists? I said yesterday, no one's going to convince me that a terrorist did not come across that southwest border within that 400,000. I'm not buying it.
But the odds are against us on this. They should scare the hell out of every American. That the president of the United States and the secretary have done this to us. When you look at this, because I mean, there are articles, Washington Examiner has an article. Here's the title, Suspected Terrorists Crossing Border at a Level We Never Have Seen Before, said the outgoing Border Patrol chief. That was August 16th, 2021.
Folks, this is an incredibly stunning development. And when you consider the fall of Afghanistan and what he did over there to allow that situation, the Taliban to take root over there, how much more danger does that create for us relative to our porous border, Tom? Well, it's very dangerous because after 9-11, we got real good at, for instance, it's hard to get a plane ticket into the United States anymore because of all the database checks that are done from foreign nationals to make sure they're not in more respective territories. That's why it created a new flight list. As far as getting a visa, like the visas that the terrorist 9-11 got, it's almost impossible to get a visa if you're a terrorist because they do so many database checks and they look for derogatory information in numerous places, which I won't discuss here because it's law enforcement sensitive.
Sure. They look numerous places for derogatory information, to include DOD sources. So if there's any derogatory information, even a hint of derogatory information, you're not going to get a visa. So if you're a terrorist and want to come to this country and blow something up, what's the easiest way to get here? The same way 20 million others did to the Southwest border, especially right now, when there's 400,000 guideaways, half the border is not on the border.
They're processing these groups. That's not an exaggeration. 50% of border groups are off the line. As a matter of fact, we've had a Haitian crisis released from Del Rio.
They took so many resources to Del Rio. There was 224 miles of border. 224 miles of border when not a single border is illegal.
Sarto tells you how to deal with this. So, and you're right, Afghanistan, to your concern, they released thousands of terrorists from the prisons whose sole purpose in life is to destroy this country. And if people don't think they're going to make their way over here, they're crazy because I'll tell you what. The Darien Gap in Panama, when I was ice trekking, we had a team down there and there's still a team there. We're the ones that trained the Panamanian officials to do biometrics. We've identified over 200 known selected terrorists within three years coming through the Darien Gap. The Darien Gap's a major route for terrorists to get up here. Over 200 within three years, and right now, this year already, they've already found 54. Luckily, we work with the Panamanian officials, we deport them straight from Panama.
But if they arrested 54, how many did they catch? So everything is right there. And this administration is ignoring it.
And it's just incredible. I don't care what the position is on illegal immigration. We all should be on the same page when it comes to national security and terrorism. Sure. Sure.
Absolutely. Well, so I've got three questions that popped into my mind as you were talking. So I'm going to lay them out for you and then give you the floor to speak to them. Number one, what happens when ICE stops doing their job? Number two, how significant is the Attorney General of Illinois making the decision to say that mutual combatants can go ahead and mutually combat, irrespective of the surrounding collateral damage and lives that are killed? And number three, my understanding, too, is that relative to that streak that you were talking about, that Iran has been given significant control of that area and China has been given control of Panama to some degree. Can you speak to those issues, please?
Well, I've been trying the first one. ICE is already, you know, they said a lot of progressives want to abolish ICE. They're going to abolish ICE.
We heard it for a year and a half, right? Well, they did abolish ICE, the agency, but they abolished the mission. There has been a series of three memorandums that came out since February. One by Deputy Secretary Patosky, one by Kate Johnson, the acting director, and Secretary Mayorkas just sent out the latest one about a week ago.
Okay. So, you know, ICE has lost a major part of their mission. In the latest memo from the secretary, the thing that just stands out is there's a paragraph in there that says, you know, it's not worth war, but that's what it means. It says, being in the country illegally and being a removable alien on its own is not reason to rest. So basically what the secretary said, it's no longer illegal to be illegally here.
You've got to have some sort of serious criminal conviction or some sort of serious national security threat. So in the middle of the biggest crisis we've seen on the border, the numbers right now, we haven't even seen September numbers. The numbers this year have already surpassed any time in history of a border challenge. This is the worst year ever.
I heard one of the times he said 36 years. He was wrong. No. Since 1986, we had a huge flow, but it wasn't as big as this.
This is the biggest crisis ever. And like I said, a few minutes ago, they keep throwing out more and more enticements. So what's he saying? He says being in the country illegally is no longer illegal. You don't think the card tells them to use that and bring people across? Right.
I say, look, keep your nose clean, man. You're home free because ICE can't arrest you. You're home free. And on top of that, the secretary a few days later said, and I'm not a member of him, saying ICE can no longer do worksite enforcement operations. The number one reason people come to the United States is to get a job. He just told the whole world, you can get a job here and you don't have to worry about being arrested by ICE. I'm not letting ICE work on worksites.
It's incredible. It's like every week I wait for some sort of policy, some enforcement, some sort of, you know, some sort of consequence, some sort of law enforcement stance or response. And there's zero. They just keep throwing more and more of these things out.
And while Congress, they're not helping either because they're still talking about amnesty to reconciliation. Right. They just keep throwing all these things out there that just want to keep bringing more. And people wonder why the numbers keep climbing. And the numbers are climbing because last month they said, well, we're down 4,000, went from 212 to 208.
Wrong. What they did is they went from 212,000 to 208,000 encounters. Now, let me explain that. Encounters are down by 4,000. Why is that? This is why. Because more border choices have been taken off the line and put in process. There's less agents on the line. It's right.
Don't let me out. Right. But less encounters means more data because there's less people on the border. So the numbers are still skyrocketing. They haven't decreased at all.
Just the number of residents decrease because the number of borders have decreased. So again, they like to spin this backwards and forwards. I can't comment on the China in the Iran thing. I just can't. I have a top secret security clearance. That's just something I can't talk about. Understood. Okay. Understood.
Well, I get separate. Tom's not saying anything about this at all. We've gone into this a little bit and talked about what's happening over there in the Middle East with Cynthia Farahat and her investigative reporting. So I can tell you there's problems. I can agree that there's huge problems.
I just can't get into it. Understood. Completely understood. Let's talk about Chicago, Illinois and mutual combatants and an attorney general that essentially has said that if you are a mutual combatant, hey, not a problem.
What does that do? As far as encouraging, I mean, illegals now are able, cartel members, gang members, to be able to go have wars on the street, turf wars on the street. And this attorney general has sent a signal that says we're not going to interfere.
You guys go ahead and fight it out. Well, look, it's a huge public safety issue. Because right now there's more violence in this country.
Climate has risen in every major city in this country. Violence is out of control. And it's rulings like this that's just going to bring more of it. So, again, bad behavior is not going to stop unless there's a consequence or deterrence. I think we learned that as kids. And let me tell you something. This is just related.
Right. We've got the bail reform law where criminals are walking out of jail. They go in there and they sign a paper that they release within hours. The bail reform law. They release thousands of criminals from jail because of COVID.
I mean, this administration has made some terrible decisions. And if you look at it, what's happened with the defund the police movement? Well, like I said, when they first talked about defund the police movement, I came out on Fox News. I said, look, every dollar you take away from the police, it was more crime. That means less patrols, less officers, less money for investigations. I says, the response time is close. It'd be less vehicles.
It'd be less everything. I said, so less cops means more crime. And I was proven right. Every place that he's defunded police, every place, not most, every place that he's defunded the police or took money out of their budget, crime has risen. So this attorney general is the latest progressive left idiot that doesn't understand his job as an attorney general is to protect the people of his state and to enforce the laws of that state. But many of these new progressive district attorneys and state attorney journalists, they just, they forgot the old state tip. Just like our president and Secretary of Homeland Security forgot the old state tip. It is. And of course, as you said, I mean, the issue that's really significant about this is the public safety issue.
I was talking with David Chistokas just yesterday, 195 incidents in just in Chicago and in and around Chicago of people who are on the expressway who were wounded by errant bullets that were fired by these quote unquote mutual combatants. We're going to take a very quick break, folks. We will be back.
Tom Homan is my guest. We're going to talk to you about the things that if if Tom was back in charge, what are some of the things that could be done? What are the things that states along the border should be doing? And and folks, I live in Texas.
There are pictures on my site building a cyclone fence is not the answer. OK, we need to continue the president's wall, President Trump's wall, and you finally had somebody at DHS, as I understand it, Tom, that actually said that in front of Congress just recently because. Hello.
It only makes sense. We'll be back with more with Tom Homan coming up on Children Generation Radio right here. I'm your host, Pastor Greg. Get more at the Web site, Children Generation Radio dot com.
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I greatly appreciate it. Talk to me about the things that governors can do along the border and and the people here in Texas, we actually have a group now of sheriffs and patriots that have formed a militia to defend their property and defend their counties. But talk to me about the things that that folks can be doing to protect themselves from this. And it's an invasion, really. Look, here's my opinion. And I've said this to Republicans yesterday at a hearing, I said it to a bunch of Republicans in Texas.
You need a copy representative, even if you're Republican. I say, right. You know what? Boycott everything. Don't sit down and talk about the budget with the Democrats. Don't talk about the reconciliation package. Don't talk about the debt ceiling. Boycott the means of the Democrats.
You know what? We're not we're not going to negotiate a single thing with you until you force the White House to take action on the border. Show us one thing you're going to do to slow the flow. To actually take an enforcement stance.
Until then, we're not talking. That's what we could do. And as far as what I'm doing, you know, we can't wait for 2022. So I'm working with this attorney general, Texas.
In fact, I work with Arizona, Arizona and Florida. I filed after Davis as an expert witness in all these lawsuits in Texas right now with the administration. And the reason we're three and all is because we proved this administration is not only ignoring them all, they're actually violating the law.
We're three and all. And we won't keep going. In fact, in six minutes, I won't be on a phone call with Texas prosecutors and we're going to talk about a new lawsuit. And I actually wrote on the table late last night.
I just finished it. I won't give it to him. We're filing another lawsuit. We're going to keep suing the hell out of them because I know more about this issue than anybody in the current administration.
I did it for 34 years and they're not fooling me. I know the law says we're going to keep digging at them. So I would do my part, too, and I hope your folks who call their representatives tell them to take action, like I discussed. In 2022, we need to take account of this. We need to vote. And in 2024, I was with President Trump last week down in Mar-a-Lago.
I told him if he comes back, I come back. And in 2024, we'll get back to securing this board at the highest level of security. 202-224-3121, folks, is the switchboard at the Capitol in D.C. 202-224-3121. 202-224-3121. Call your representative.
If you're not sure who they are, don't worry about it. All you need to do is tell them where you live. The switchboard will put you in contact with your congressman, your House of Representatives. You have one congressman and two senators, and you need to reach out to all three of them today and tell them they need to make sure the border gets secured. And if the Democrats aren't willing to secure the border, then tell them they need to vote no.
All of these budget resolutions vote no. Tom, I know you've got to jump. Thank you for being with me. I greatly appreciate it, sir. We're praying for you and and praying for for you just to be able to continue to fight this good fight.
And I'll be in touch with you very soon. God bless you. And thank you for all you're doing for America.
Thank you. All right, folks. Listen, again, as Christians, as believers, God himself told Abram, I will make you the father of many nations. God said that he himself was creating a nation.
God is about boundaries and nations. At the end of the day, when I stand before my God, I do not want him to ask me, what did you do with the world that I sent my son to die for and redeem? How did you fight the good fight to share the good news and keep evil in check?
How did you shine your light and be a beacon of truth in the darkness? Did you shrink back in fear when they demanded you change my message? Did you call evil good and good evil? Did you forsake my love for that of another, lying with the adulterer and setting up a new idol in your life? Have you defiled yourself through compromise and tolerance of that which I call an abomination? Have you innocent blood on your hands for the children murdered on your watch and the young ones perverted in their way by evil men, seeking their own comfort and reviling me?
No. At the end of the day, I want him to simply say the evidence is in. Well done, thou good and faithful servant. I love my God and I love his creation and I will go to my grave telling the world that evil is evil and only God is good and Jesus came to save the world. That no matter the evil in the world, I will never give up and in spite of the hate, I will love in truth.
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