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Well, very pleased to welcome the PR Director at First Liberty Institute, Lathan Watts. Lathan, welcome. Good to have you. Thank you, sir. Thanks for having me back.

Absolutely. I was telling folks in the first segment to be sure and get over to the website firstliberty.org and to take the 10 shocking attacks on religious freedom. I have to tell you, I didn't do real well because I attributed some of the stuff that was there to the US when it was China and I attributed a couple of things that were here to China.

So I ended up at 50%. I'm so embarrassed. It's terrible. But there's such a mix though, right?

I mean, when you stop and think about it between the things that are happening here versus the things that you would expect to happen over there. Man, it's bad. Talk to us about your latest case regarding Lacey Smith. That's something else. Certainly.

Yes. So we represent Lacey Smith and one other flight assistant from Alaska Airlines hosted on their company's internal message board like an internet. They posted a statement that the company was supporting the Equality Act and solicited feedback from the employees. They encouraged employees to comment and discuss the Equality Act and these two flight attendants posted questions about it that indicated their opposition to the Equality Act based on their religious beliefs.

Lacey Smith simply asked the question on that internal message board, do you as a company believe that it is possible to legislate morality? And Alaska Airlines said specifically about Lacey's question that discussing sexual orientation or gender identity as a moral issue was discriminatory and they fired both of these flight attendants. So we now represent both of them were filed two charges of discrimination with the federal EEOC for Alaska Airlines. Firing of them, which violates federal and state civil rights laws. There's the Civil Rights Act, 1954 Title 7 prohibits employment discrimination on the basis of religion.

Right. So we found these charges with the EEOC and now we'll wait to see how the commission deals with them. And once we have some sort of decision from the EEOC, then we'll work with the clients to take the next step to resolve this in a way that they're happy with. But it just goes to show that when companies engage in this sort of woke kind of virtue signaling, they have a responsibility to their employees, which hold different views. And I actually think, you know, if a company is going to enter into the political fray, Alaska Airlines is supporting a quality act. Their initial action, what they did, informing employees that they were supporting it and requesting their feedback.

That's actually a big thing. What they did wrong was firing two employees for giving the feedback that they didn't like. So they requested feedback from the employees and then when they got them from these two flight attendants that wasn't in line with the company line, they fired them for it.

You can't do that in this country. Well, and something else that is a part of this, because if Alaska Airlines was a singularly privately held corporation or company, private business individuals have a right to believe whatever they want to believe. And if they want their employees that they hire to align with that, that's perfectly fine. But Alaska Airlines is a publicly traded company. So what does that mean?

That means that the individuals that own stock in Alaska Airlines are the owners. And in that kind of a scenario, when you do those kinds of things, what you're essentially saying to half of your owners is, we don't care what you think, we're going to do this. It's kind of the tail wagging the dog, if you will.

Yeah. And any time you're a commercial enterprise and you take a stand on a political issue, you run the risk of alienating, as you said, probably half your customers, maybe half your shareholders, certainly your employees. And I really think the only way this sort of cancel culture is going to stop is going to take people like Lacey Smith and the Federal Flight Attendant taking a stand on their own. But it will also take, as you mentioned, shareholders in these companies telling these companies that we're not on board with this. As you said, we're part owners of this company. We want you to be a profitable enterprise.

If you're Alaska Airlines, just fly people to Alaska. Leave the politics to other people. And I really think that is what it's going to take, is shareholder action to get these companies to just stick to business. And if you make the decision to sort of enter the political phase, you can't fire your employees if they disagree based on their religious beliefs, as these two did, if they give you feedback that is not in line with what you want. Well, and especially like you said, if you're opening up and asking for feedback, then it would seem as though you're saying, we want to know what you, our employees, think about this situation. And there you go.

I would just refer folks to the Free Enterprise Project and Justin Danhof at National Center for Public Policy, where they go in and this is exactly what they are engaged in, is challenging in the stockholder meetings, these companies that go woke like this. You know, there's a couple of other ones, too, and I really want to talk about this for a minute, and that is a gentleman who recently passed, former U.S. Navy Chaplain Wes Martyr. I got a chance to meet Wes several times at some value voter summit events and a CPAC event, as well, and actually still have it, but his phone number in my phone and we exchanged texts and some communications and he was a guest on my program in the past. And he just recently passed away and he was, my goodness, what a tremendous example of someone standing up for his strongly held Christian biblical values. Yeah, he was a great man and he was a chaplain in the Navy, as you mentioned, he was a chaplain for Field Point 6 at one point, and he was at one point facing potentially career-ending action by the Navy for doing what he is supposed to do. He's a chaplain, he's supposed to counsel according to his religious beliefs, he's supposed to do that and it was an honor for all of us at First Liberty to represent him and protect him and stop the action that was taken against him. It's something that we're all extremely proud of, the work that First Liberty does, protecting the rights of people who every day stand up to protect the rest of us, and he will be sorely missed, but he left a great and lasting legacy.

Yeah, a very awesome individual and of course we know that he is in heaven, keep his family, keep the Mater family in your prayers if you would, we'll appreciate that and I know they will as well. Alright, vaccine mandates, we've got military vaccine mandates, and I know you guys are talking about the necessity for the right to religious accommodations on that, and the President, well the guy sitting in the White House, Joe Biden, I won't, yeah, anyway. But Joe Biden said yesterday that he's becoming increasingly angry with those that are not, you know, taking the poke. Right, and you know our office has been, even prior to the President's announcement yesterday, our office has just been flooded with calls from people who have religious convictions that would prohibit them from taking the vaccine. What I would ask anyone who's listening in this situation, honestly we're getting more calls than we can handle, so what we've done is we've created a toolkit that explains how to request an exemption from any mandate based on your religious beliefs, and it's kind of broken down by if you work in the private sector, if you work for government, if you're in the military, it's a free resource on our website, please go to FirstLiberty.org first, read that, use it to, you know, adapt it to your specific situation to request your exemption, and then, you know, see if you get the exemption, if not, please come back to the website and click the legal help tab and let us know that way, because that's the only way we can really keep track of all these, we're literally down to the thousands of people asking us for help, and we don't want them to fall through the cracks. Well, and don't, yeah, and folks, don't give up, don't give in, and don't feel like there's nobody there to help you, because, again, you're going to be given, you know, tools to be able to use, and then you can follow that up with the phone call and with the direct response if necessary, and, you know, I know you guys are working overtime on it, I know there are several, you know, Matt Staver's organization is working overtime on it, ADF is working over, I mean, you know, it's going to take a group effort by all of you guys to try to...

It's all hands on deck. Yeah, exactly, to try to address this, well, and then I want to shift over to businesses, because, you know, we mentioned, I mentioned just a moment ago, if you are a corporately, if you are on the stock exchange, you're a publicly held company, you have kind of one set of guidelines that you need to pay attention to, but if you are a privately held, the Kathy's, you know, Chick-fil-A, privately held company, Hobby Lobby, the Greens, another privately held company, but let's talk about, you know, the folks that are right at that 100 employee limit, okay? Somebody who has, you know, built a successful organization and they've got about 100, 110 employees, and now all of a sudden the president wants to make them mandate to their employees that they must be vaccinated. That seems to me like that is potentially a huge violation of someone's core beliefs. Yes, and I expect, you know, there will be legal challenges to this, it's going to be, you know, an interesting next few weeks to see, just as you said, if it's a family owned business, even if they have 100 employees, we'll bring them under what the president announced yesterday, because he didn't make any mention of available exemptions for, on the basis of religion. And so, you know, people that are in that boat need to certainly pursue an accommodation or an exemption from it based on religious grounds, and if it's not granted, then it may take litigation.

And certainly, you know, we stand ready to help, like I said, just come to firstliberty.org and complete that simple little form on the website at the Get Legal Help tab. Amen. Amen. When you guys are looking at this situation, and I know that Kelly has come out on several occasions in the past and talked about, you know, gosh, this is the worst that we've seen it, or what have you, something to that effect, basically. And he's talked openly about, you know, the Obama administration was very anti-religious.

He spoke about that. The Trump administration was on the other end of that. They seem to be very pro-defending religious liberties.

We're back with the Biden administration to the levels that we were with the Obama administration and maybe beyond that? Yeah, I'm afraid so, and religious liberties should not be a part of the nation. It should be something that everyone from all points along the political spectrum can agree on. That whether or not you disagree on policy, people have a God-given right to live according to their beliefs, and that's what First Liberty is here to protect, and we're here to help. Amen. FirstLiberty.org. FirstLiberty.org. Be sure and get over there.

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