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Thanks so much for being here. I want to also welcome our audience on TECNTV.com. TECNTV.com. Our good friend Kenneth McClendon and the exceptional conservative network, the number one urban television internet network. We are reaching about 1.3 million a year and great to be a part of that wonderful network. Thanks for tuning in. And you can watch us live there every day on the show on TECNTV, 10 a.m. to 12 noon Eastern, 9 to 11 Central.
And be sure you can watch the program on there. We welcome also all of those that are listening all across our terrestrial radio audience from coast to coast. Well, I'm very excited to welcome my next guest to the program. He is a political commentator, a dynamic cultural thinker, podcast host of the Pensive Politics Show. His show airs Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday nights on the Fed by Ravens Media Network at 7 p.m. Eastern time. And he's also on a number of other podcasting platforms under the title Pensive Politics. He also is a writer.
His articles can be found in The Federalist, Town Hall, The Washington Times, The Washington Examiner, USA Today as well. I want to welcome to the program Christian Watson. Christian, welcome. Good to have you. Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here, sir. Well, it's a pleasure to have you.
It's a pleasure to have you. Your article that you wrote, August 23rd in the Washington Times, is titled, Liberals Redefine America's Essence Through Ruthless Deconstruction. We were talking a little bit in the break about how the left consistently wants to redefine America through the lens of the 1619 Project, CRT. America is bad, imperialistic, evil. CRT says that every white person in America wakes up in the morning saying, hey, how can I hurt somebody of color today? Wow. You know, this isn't the message of unity that Joe Biden said that he was running on, is it?
No, absolutely not. And because the goal is not about unity for some of these more radical activists. The goal is about a purification. The goal is about making sure the version of heaven comes onto earth and manifests quickly. And this is actually what the things are voted against and what William F. Buckley sort of phrased in his own language called imminetizing the eschaton, which simply means do not try to bring heaven onto earth because earth has its own set of rules and earth is imperfect and any attempt to do that will fail. But unfortunately, they're trying to do it not through intellectual discussion anymore because intellectual discussion for so many people is actually considered dangerous to the marginalized.
They're trying to do it through force by toppling statues, ripping down names that are inscribed onto certain monuments and just trying to overall redefine what it means to be an American. And that should really worry all of us. Well, I think you touch on something interesting, too, because I know that Jesus pronounced the kingdom of heaven is at hand, repent. But the Christian view of America and the Christian view of the world, Christ's view, I mean, even remember, although he said, listen, I'm here for the Israelites, this is who I'm trying to get saved is to get them on the right track. But, you know, he reached out past that when he saw true faith working and our founding fathers created a Christian nation whose purpose was to spread the gospel message to the whole world.
I was sharing in the first very quickly and then I want to throw this right back to you, but I was sharing. I do a lot of ministry in India every weekend and there is a particular Hindu leader who came to one of our outreach meetings with his wife, who was suffering severely from head pain. And in the meeting during the prayer, God healed her. And he has started coming to the Sunday church meetings and shared a testimony with the pastor that since Jesus and the God of the Bible has come into their home, all the fighting has stopped. They have peace in their house. That's the true message of the gospel.
Go right ahead, brother. That's beautiful. That's a very inspiring story and I think one of the many things the Bible does, especially for me because I am a Christian as well, it inspires us to be better than the conditions, the material conditions we inhabit on this earth. And I think one of the best examples of this, which actually also ties back into how to truly be against racism, not this sort of Kendi version of anti-racism, which is just basically being racist but being racist in a way that involves policy and redefines racism to me. When Christ went to a woman as well and asked her for some water, she said, I'm sure you know this story very well, pastor, she said, why would I give you water?
You're a Jew. And Christ said, if you had asked God for water, he would have given you living water that would have never made it first again. And when she said that to her, I mean, I bet that she would have gotten for anyone else, an attack, an insult, but when he said that to her, she understood the principle of universal grace, which transcended what she had viewed Jesus as and she went into the city, ministered and everyone basically came to follow Jesus.
What's the point? The point is this, God's universal grace does not care about power decades. God's universal grace does not care about power structures. God's universal grace is not about advocating for policy to change your life.
God's universal grace is about being higher, being greater than your material conditions, professing in the spirit of humility that there's something long and you need to have that thing long rectified and then going before the cross to get it rectified. That is the exact antithesis of the anti-racist leftist message about America. I think that it will help all of us to understand that story in the Bible because I think that really exemplifies, you know, a sort of anti-racist message. Well, and I, you know, I always remind folks too, you know, when he shares the story of the parable of the good Samaritan, let's remember that Jesus is framing the story, okay? He could have picked anybody.
He could have picked Egypt. He could have picked anybody but he picked Samaritans in particular because they did have an understanding. Look, folks, you know, most Democrats that are towing that line, especially within the black communities and the Hispanic communities, these are people of faith. They know the Bible. They know faith. They know the stories of scripture, ladies and gentlemen. They know that.
And guess what? That means that they share Christian conservative values. They just have been bamboozled into believing what you shared at the top of this program, that that leftist religion that is filled with nothing but hate and rancor truly for virtually everyone except for themselves. Yeah, you mentioned it very interesting here, Pastor. There is a tension between how a lot of leftists conceptualize their Christianity and Christianity as a whole, especially for example, on the abortion issue.
There definitely is a tension between how many left-wing Christians like, you know, Pastor Raphael Warnock, excuse me, Raphael Warnock, you know, defend abortion. Right. I lost you. Christian, you disappeared. Are you still there, brother?
I'm here. Okay. Can you hear me? Yep, I got you now.
I lost you for just a sec. Go ahead. You were saying Raphael Warnock and how and how he was defending abortion.
Go right ahead. Yeah, there's a tension between how many leftists use the Bible, what the Bible and Christianity actually is. And I always wonder how can they deal with that sort of cognitive dissonance because it just seems completely inconsistent to me. I think the church has played an immensely good role in the past in legitimately trying to fight racism, trying to tear down the vestments of Jim Crow, trying to make sure that no one was being judged in color. But I think the church's role has kind of been manipulated and converted into a little bit more different to sort of be a validator of a lot of these left-wing causes without any critical examination because these causes live in the light, live in the shadow of the struggles against Jim Crow, which were legitimately good. So we have to separate with the struggle against Jim Crow and the supposed struggle against racism that exists today, according to many people, because they are very different.
One is a little bit less definable, one is a little bit more subjective, and one is a little bit more politically motivated. So I think you know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the kind of racism that we're not supposedly doing with today. So we have to be very careful. The church must be very careful and do what Christ says, discern the Spirit. Well, I think something else that I think is important, and again, because there is a meeting here between God's Word and the world, and there's a bridge there, and they want to cut that bridge off, and they do that by creating a message, Christian, that basically says, the world is a terrible place, it's horrible, filled with hateful and horrible people. And so therefore, Gosnell used this.
This was one of his defenses. Well, I kill these babies because that saves them from leading a terrible and miserable life. And the message of the Gospel is that God has a plan and a purpose for your life. He's written out those days before you were born, and actually, there is an incredibly wonderful life for you to live out, no matter what your beginning might be.
I mean, look, Larry Elder talks about this as part of his message in his campaign. I was a kid that came out of the poverty and out of the ghettos, and out of all of that, and look at what I've risen to in this great country called America, with its Christian values. Yeah, you know, Pastor, I want you to imagine something really quickly. Imagine, you know, when I believe it was Peter who had to determine the Pentecost. Imagine, you know, Peter went before and ministered before all the people, many of whom had rejected the identity of Christ and many of whom had their witness to his crucifixion. And he preached to them, and when they were all confused afterwards, and they said, what do we do?
He said, repent, go before God, he's never one of you, and repent and lay down your sins, and you will have the gift of the Spirit. That suggests that even though there were so many atrocities committed, there were so many against God himself, he still has enough grace to let us repent. But the story of the racism initiative, the anti-racism initiatives many of the left is pushing, is not one of repentance but of vengeance, one that tries to convict people for things they didn't even do, much less things that they did do on the basis of their skin color, i.e., have this idea of white privilege or white supremacy, and then tries to move them towards a certain mode of action that is politically convenient for a certain perverse ideology. My point is this, if God can forgive even the most egregious of crimes against his incarnation in the physical world, then why can't he bring ourselves to forgive people and feed people as individuals and not people as this sort of big collective and blame them for some crime they didn't even commit?
That's my question. And I think that it's reflective of carnal understanding that we do that. And carnal understanding is not the Christian's best friend, it is our worst enemy, actually. Talk to me about what we do to get this message that we're talking about today across. What is our most effective means to reach these communities of individuals who are being manipulated to believe the things that we're talking about?
Well, there are a few ways to go about doing that. I think for communities who are more Christian, you just have to appeal to the everlasting grace of God and show how anti-racism and the sort of leftist anti-racism is directly antithetical to that. And it just goes against it every single way. You can do that by quoting some of the scriptures that I mentioned, talking about how Christ had grace even towards people who viewed him in a certain light, who viewed him akin to how racism might be equal today, in that if we're going to be Christ-like, we have to also convey that certain kind of grace, or try to. We're imperfect, of course, we're human beings, but we can still try to convey a little bit of it. If they're not really Christian, you just have to appeal to their sense of reason.
Now, this may be me being optimistic here, but I think this is probably the best way, I'm sure, to force people to do things which is not a good thing, not a good idea. You have to appeal to their sense of reason. You have to say, look, do you really think that we can say racism truly exists as much as it did previously? Can you really say that all black folk are bound to mediocrity and failure to do this in color? Can you really say all these things?
You have to fight that intellectual battle and don't give up until something gets it, and it should not be. We'll be back to talk about it right after this. We're going to take a quick break. My guest is Christian Watson. You can get more of Christian, and he's not going anywhere. He'll be back with me right after the break. ChristianJWatson.com. ChristianJWatson.com. I think you bring up a good point. I've had the same thing that my good friend Derek Wilburn said that went viral at the school board meeting.
He said, look, I'm free to go anywhere that I want to go in this country and do anything that I want to do in this country, and nobody points to my skin color and says you can't go here or you can't be there. Back right after this. Hi.
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He's been really just on a lot of different media. Christian, as you're speaking, we were talking about some of the things that we can do. We mentioned in the break a little bit about the black liberation theology that seems to be very prevalent within the black churches. It's interesting to me where you still have the platforms for the Al Sharptons and the Reverend Jesse, what's his name?
Jackson. That's the one. But these are individuals who, Al Sharpton in particular, came to fame by presenting what was identified later to be an absolute lie about a horrific act, but it was not true.
None of it happened. And yet, he is still given huge platforms to influence a lot of individuals with more racist rhetoric. Yep. Yep.
Oh, yeah. And I think that a lot of the black liberation theology and the people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson who accused the Lord of politics, a lot of them are in some ways deriving their power from the sort of pain that historic racism has caused many black folks, and they're causing them to see that pain in many different areas where it may not even be. So again, I think discernment is key here. We have to realize, again, not everyone who walks in the Spirit is of the Spirit, and that's the best answer that the jail adopted spoke to a lot of people under their spell, and we've got to break it.
We've got to break it somehow, and we've got to break it to discernment. Amen. Amen. Christian, thanks for being with us today.
I greatly appreciate it. And again, you can find him at christianjwatson.com. I'm your host, Pastor Greg.
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