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Lathan Watts Military Has A Right to Conscience Reject Forced Vaccines 092421

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October 8, 2021 5:50 pm

Lathan Watts Military Has A Right to Conscience Reject Forced Vaccines 092421

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I'm your host Pastor Greg and my guest is from First Liberty. I want to welcome Lathan Watts, Public Relations and Communications Director. Great to have you Lathan. Thanks for being here. Thank you.

Thanks for having me back. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, the military is being basically told and of course it's still I guess up for discussion if you will. But the Biden administration very much wants to make it so that if you as a member of the military for purposes of conscience say, no, I'm not going to take the poke that you somehow now should be dishonorably discharged and basically have your life ruined. That seems like there should be a right to say no. Yes, and you know when people join the military they do, it is a little bit different.

You know, I mean there are some some things that in order to have a command structure, you know, it's very a little bit different situation than the average citizen. However, they do not surrender their religious liberty by enlisting in the military and we've gotten lots of calls from folks in the military. And what we're asking people to do because we're getting so many phone calls. It's difficult for us to keep track of all the incoming calls. So we're asking people to do is go to our website first.

There is a toolkit there about vaccinations and download that it's for free. It will walk you through how to request an exemption based on your religious convictions and to request that and then get back in touch with us once you have that response and just go back to the website to get legal help tab if your request is denied. What we've been hearing from some of the people that have talked to us is that they're being told it's not going to do any good to request the exemption. It's going to get denied.

So why bother? Well, we would suggest that they request it anyway so that if it is denied it's documented and that will make it that will help us if we are able to engage to help folks in the military dealing with this issue. So it's interesting times as you indicated, probably the nice polite way to say it, but these people willingly sign up to defend these rights for everybody else and they should not be denied them. Well, and as it sits right now, the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act has been passed by both houses and is on its way to being signed, but the White House is having a fit because the amendment by Representative Green stating that military members should not be dishonorably discharged because they have chosen to separate themselves from the military because they're being demanded to vaccinate, to take this inoculation, this poke. And so we'll see, I guess how that plays out, but look, I was Air Force, I'm a veteran, okay, and yes, I understand that orderly and taking orders is a part of what you sign up for when you join the military, when you join the service, but the experimentation on members of the military, that's not, you sign up and your oath is to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And Lathan, I think what we're addressing here is a constitutional right, if you want to reference it that way, especially for the religious right, the religious exemption to say, you know, I can't in good conscience take this poke.

Yeah, and that's really what the free exercise is about, it is the right of conscience, the right to live according to your deepest held beliefs. And as I said before, you do not surrender those by joining the military. You know, it's a slightly different scenario than the general public, but in that you have the uniform code of military justice and different regulations and that sort of thing. But, you know, the Constitution is the Constitution and it has not been suspended during this pandemic. And it's, you know, it's sad that so many people in the military are being put in this position and it certainly should not be grounds for a dishonorable discharge. That is such an extreme measure that should be reserved for people who truly did not do their duty. And, you know, that's why we have a military division here at First Liberty Institute. We were defending religious liberty in the military long before this current issue came up.

So if people are currently on active duty or family members who are dealing with this issue, I would just encourage you to go to firstliberty.org and check out the resource that we have on the vaccines. And then if you need our help, fill out the get legal help tab. In a broader sense, and I'm going to throw it out there and you can just tell me if you feel as though it merits my thought process. There are a lot of people that are very concerned about a number of different things that are happening in our country today. But, you know, I look at the sex trafficking that's happening at our border, for example, and that something needs to happen with that.

I look at the intrusion on our personal property and on our, you know, I mean, there's just a variety of things, the proposals about going in and controlling bank accounts and just a variety of different things. And I'm not, again, this isn't about political, it's about just policies and liberties and freedoms, abortion, the push that's being done on abortion, which obviously is a believer we're against. There are a number of these issues and to me they come down to issues of morality. Do I want to be forced to participate in or financially support things that are against my strongly held religious convictions? And so we talk about civil disobedience, you know, especially in this area of the vaccines and the masks in particular, and what they do to our temple, to our physical temple, which God says is where He dwells now as New Testament believers.

At what point does that civil disobedience come to rest on religious liberty? And then how does that square? Am I making sense?

I'm sorry if I'm... I think so. Yeah, so I think this, for people of faith, it becomes a matter of conscience. When the Apostle Paul discussed the issue that the First Century Church was having regarding eating meat that was offered to idols, he said, you know, it basically comes down to a matter of conscience. If you don't have a problem with this meat that was offered to idols, but you are eating with someone who does, you know, you have a responsibility to them and vice versa. You have a responsibility to you. So to each of you treat each other respectfully so that you don't force someone to violate their own conscience.

On whether it's the vaccine or a whole host of issues, we live in a country that's really the only one in the history of the world that's founded on the idea that government exists to protect your God-given rights, and so therefore government should never put you in a position of having to choose between obeying God and obeying government. So we have rights here in this country that the First Century Christians would marvel at, and the Apostle Paul used his Roman citizenship and the rights that he had as a Roman citizen to protect himself physically. A couple of times they were getting ready to beat him and he says, is it lawful for you to do this to a Roman citizen? Another time he was in jail and they were going to sneak him out and he said, no, I'm a Roman citizen and I was put here without a trial.

I'm not going to go away quietly, have him come in here and walk me out of here the same way he put me in. So he used his citizenship to both protect himself physically and also to advance the cause. How did he end up in Rome to begin with? You appeal to Caesar, to Caesar you will go. That was his right as a Roman citizen.

So we have far more freedoms and liberties here in this day and age than the First Century Church did for sure. And so I think it becomes a matter of conscience then for the believer. If you are faced with a situation of obeying government would cause you to violate your own conscience towards your obedience to God, you have to decide where that line is for you. And if you're put in that position and you have reached that point, then for you as a matter of conscience to not obey or to obey God rather than government, that's typically where most of our clients have found themselves. And that's why we come in for free to help them. Because in this country you should never be put in that position. That's what the First Amendment is all about. But I think it's well-intentioned and devout people can arrive at different conclusions on some issues and where that line is for the individual.

But if you are facing that, that's when you need help. That's what First Liberty exists to do. Well, we would point back, or I would point back, to our Declaration of Independence. We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life liberating the pursuit of happiness, that to secure these rights governments are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. And that whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it's the right of the people to alter or abolish it. Our Christian first step is our right to have a fair and honest and open election and to choose different representation. Because these are representatives and I know that First Liberty works hard to give Christians the right in the public arena to be able to say, no, I can use my conscience, my beliefs, my biblical beliefs and deeply held biblical beliefs to inform me on my public policy, how I want to live in and what kind of society I want to live in.

Yeah, exactly. It's just like you said in your quote in the Declaration that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men. That is the purpose of government, to protect the God-given rights of the people. And so the First Amendment enshrines that in the Free Exercise Clause and that is about living your life according to what you believe.

That's exactly right. That's why First Liberty exists is to protect that right for people of all faiths. We represent people of all faiths all around the country because the principle is the same for our Orthodox Jewish clients than it is as it is for our Christian clients. And when we win for another faith, the win protects everyone. So it's a unique blessing in the history of the world to live in a country founded on the ideals that ours is.

And I believe that Terrible the Talents tells us will be held accountable for what we did with those blessings. And we have a right and a responsibility to live freely and to live according with our deepest held beliefs. And really when people of all faiths do that, life gets better for everyone.

It's the faith-based charities and nonprofits that are caring for the least of these. And they're doing a better job than government ever has. And so really what the First Amendment about what I work is about is preserving the proper role of religion in a free and civil society.

Amen. And, you know, the conscience of a nation has a huge bearing on the prosperity of that nation. And I think the reason America has, you know, has prospered and has survived, we have surpassed the expectations and historical evidence of any other nation. Two hundred years is about the closing point, folks. And we're beyond that.

And I think we can go a lot further. But we have to make sure that these issues of conscience stay in place. First Liberty is fighting for those. But they can't fight if you don't let them know where rights are being rescinded. And they're there to help you. So contact them today.

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I just opened up my email and my producer just shared something with me and I'm going to share it with you. Fred Weinberg is a man who is literally, I would say, a force of nature. His zest for freedom for the American way, his fire for liberty and for freedom of speech and for giving others a platform and liberty and freedom to share.

He always loved having ministers that would break the glass ceiling and just tell the truth. We had some wonderful conversation. It is with a deep sense of sadness that I share with you that Fred passed away this morning. So I'm taking this moment to give a tribute and I didn't get permission and I apologize if somebody is offended.

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Please be praying for everyone who Fred touched and that's a lot, a lot of people. So keep them lifted up in your prayers if you would and in honor of him, let's keep fighting for freedom. Let's keep fighting for liberty. Let's keep fighting for America. He had incredible belief in the American people and he counted on you and that's why he let us speak to you.

So let's, let's, let's make him proud. All right. I'm going to take a break. I'll be back.

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