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It's me, Matt Slick, and listen to Matt Slick live. Hope you're all going to have a good time listening today. And I have a bit of a chest cold, just a bit.

Just started a little bit ago, so we'll see how that goes. But hey, I want you to give me a call, 877-207-2276. And we have three open lines. So there you go. We've got a good question coming up here.

It'll be interesting. Anyway, if you also want to email me, you can do that. Just send an email to info at KARM.org, info at KARM.org. And put in the subject line radio comment, radio question, either one of those. And we can get to you. All right, we do them on Fridays a lot of time. Just a reminder, I'll be off the air all week next week, going to run a little errands and some stuff out of state. So for a little bit. And just take the rest of the week and all that kind of stuff off. So be up and around. But there you go.

Hey, why don't we just do this? Get to Jermaine from California. Jermaine, welcome. You're on the air. Oh, hello, Matt. Hey, how you doing?

Hey, I'm doing OK. Just a question that piqued my interest was last year, I saw that there was a Protestant church in Germany. And it was basically an AI led church service where they had a screen up. And they had the entire service conducted by AI.

And I was shocked how many people actually filled the church to attend. And I'm taking some classes in AI, just learning as much as I can. I used to be in that tech world. But I was just interested. However, it just felt spiritually off to see how many people were willing to sit there and listen to a service completely conducted by which is essentially a creation. And I know this is a kind of new territory.

So I just kind of wanted to hear your thoughts on AI led services. Yeah. Well, it makes sense that this will occur.

And if there was one going on around my area, I would definitely go because I would want to do research to see what happens, just to see. I started to write about it. But is it OK? No, it's not. OK, hold on one second. Interesting. OK.

So anyway, sorry, got a little distracted there. So the Holy Spirit moves through the person. And the unction of the Holy Spirit occurs while people are preaching. A lot of times during a sermon, and I've preached hundreds of sermons, what will happen is you're moving a certain direction. And you just feel sense, no, however it is, the need to say something that's different. This is because the Holy Spirit generally is working on you and through you for the congregation. That wouldn't happen in an AI.

Furthermore, the ones who do the preaching by definition are supposed to be those who are, well, alive, pastors and elders. And that's what we're supposed to have. So the idea of having AI do this is really interesting.

I'm actually kind of curious to know if we could call it sinful. But it is an interesting concept to discuss. So I think I'm going to have to write an article on it, because it's interesting. Right.

Yeah, OK. And I agree with you. I actually would check it out myself just to check it out one time. But I was more shocked by how many people had filled the church and had kind of complimented the AI on preaching a good message. And that disturbed me, because if you try hard enough, you can actually get the AI to lie to you. It takes some effort, but you can get the AI to start hallucinating and just straight lie or to tell you something that maybe is politically correct, aligned with whoever programmed it.

So people should keep that in mind. But yeah, just be curious, and read your article now. Yeah, and also, what might be interesting to take on this is, oh, I just had this thought. What was it? It's not alive, the junction of the Holy Spirit's not going to be there, but it was something else.

You go there to listen. Oh yeah, so an AI sermon would only be as good as the programming that led to it. Now what if you had, however, what if you had someone do an AI avatar, and the avatar, I'm not saying I would agree with this, but the avatar delivered a sermon that was, say, 300 years old, that was recorded, written down. Still, it's not acceptable.

But I could see how an AI could do that and not make a mistake, so to speak. It's worth discussing. Yeah.

OK. I did, a while back, I just jogged my memory. I do remember there was someone created, basically, an avatar of Christ, and people were chatting with it.

And it was supposed to, I guess, duplicate whatever he would have said. But a lot of it was, basically, when you start asking controversial questions, it was pretty obvious that not only was this not Christ, but it could actually be demonically inspired. So yeah, definitely something to look into. Well, here's something else that I'm concerned about. And there's this thing called the image of the beast.

And there's a lot of people who've been wondering what it might be. And I just finished, literally, editing my novel, my first novel, re-editing it yesterday. I'm going to release it here tonight or tomorrow on Amazon. And I want to write a second and a third in this series.

People have asked me to for years. And so I'm probably going to do that. And one of the concepts I've been thinking about working with is AI that moves and does stuff in different contexts. And the question then is, could such an AI be possessed?

And that's just a question. So animals can be possessed. And it certainly seems to be the case that objects can have demonic connection. So could it be that a demonic force could inhabit some computer system and then be deceptive? It's just a thought. You could write something like that and assume it's true for a story. So you never know. But it is interesting that God created life. Now, so to speak, we're creating life. And it's in the form of AI. And the AI that we create, so to speak, has all knowledge.

Because I mean, I use chat GPT-4. And I go in. I ask questions of theology. I know my theology. It does very well. So we have these. It's like creating life.

All knowledge can give advice. It can just do things. It is kind of imitating God. And I just find this fascinating that people are creating this.

And could it be that it'll become sentient and become Skynet and takes over and try to destroy people, blah, blah, blah. So it's just interesting. I'm going to really work through some ideas on it and send you an article on it. All right. All right. Well, thank you very much, man. I appreciate it. OK. Sounds good. All right, man.

God bless, buddy. OK. There, I cut him off there. Sorry about that.

All right. Let's get to Mike from North Carolina. Mike, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey. I read the Bible quite a bit. And I listen to a lot of sermons on radio. And one of the things that popped into my head the other night was we know that according to the Bible, Jesus wept. And I'm going to assume that when he was throwing out the money changers in the temple that he was angry. But I was wondering, does the Bible ever say anything about Jesus being afraid?

It doesn't say that I'm aware of any place where it says he's afraid. But when we go to, roughly, Luke 22, 42, it says, Father, if there's any way for this cup to pass from me, let it be done, but not my will, but your will. And what he was talking about was the aspect of going to the crucifixion. And he didn't want to go through it.

And then he started sweating like drops of blood falling to the ground. So he was in great despair. So I think we could say that in that he was fearful of going through what he had to go through, even though it doesn't say so.

All right. I was just trying to relate it to humans and why we tend to be afraid of things and the unknown. And I was just trying to kind of relate it somehow.

Yes. Well, as you rightly pointed out, Jesus wept. And he had sorrow, and he had anger. So he had human emotions. So why wouldn't he have experienced fear? I think he probably did. I'm not going to hang my hat on that one, but I think he probably did. I mean, the cross is, he was a human.

He didn't want to go through it. Right. So yeah, OK. I guess I'm still struggling with that 100% man, 100% God concept. Well, I don't like to say 100% and 100%. That doesn't make sense. What we say is that in the one person or two natures, it's like having a bag, one bag, and in it is an orange and an apple.

In the one bag is an orange and an apple. In the one person is a divine and a human. That's what you could look at it as. And the attributes of both of those natures are ascribed to the single person of Christ.

And that's called the communication of the properties. So he had, you know, he slept, he ate. But he also said he'd be with us always, even at the end of the Earth. So he's claiming the attributes of both humanity and divinity. So that's what that is.

And so he would have had those, I believe he would have had those attributes of fear and hope. I guess that's where I was kind of getting my thinking wrong on that. It's called the hypostatic union. And it's worth studying.

And let me tell you, it's not just, oh, it's a good idea to know a little bit about it. This is one of the fundamental doctrines of the entire Christian faith. Anyone who would deny that Jesus is both God and man cannot be a true Christian.

That's how important it is. It's like saying he didn't rise from the dead. Well, then you can't be a true Christian. There are only a few essential doctrines of the faith, like seven of them.

And that's one of them, that he's both God and man. So it's worth checking out. Just go to my website, karm.org, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G. And just type in, is Jesus God?

You'll type in, you'll see an article pop up and all kinds of stuff. All right, well, thank you. All right, check it out. Give me a call back.

Let me know what you think, all right? Okie doke. All right, man. Talk to you later.

Bye bye. Hey, folks, if you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276. We'll get back to Clay here after the break, discussing the opening ceremony of the Olympics. Oh, boy, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

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So there you go. Let's get to Clay from North Carolina. Clay, welcome here on the air. Brother Matt, let me first start off this conversation in a positive way, not that I'm a negative person, to give thanks to the Lord for you, for what you do, and for everything that you bring on the radio. I really give thanks for you and Truth Radio and everything that that's about. So I've been meaning, I understand from what the person who was taking the calls to let you know when you're going to be on the air, and he said that this was talked about yesterday, and I apologize for not listening yesterday.

So of course, the Olympics started last Friday, and the opening ceremony was three and a half plus hours, and I didn't watch all of it. But anyway, so I went to this Christian Fellowship get-together Saturday, and there were like two or three people that were there. And then there was one person Sunday morning going to church, and one person at this Bible study prayer meeting that I go to in this church that is out in the country in southern Durham North in Wake County in North Carolina. So it was talked about that the word demonic was mentioned.

I know that demonic is an extended word of demon, and we know that demon is, demonic is of evil intent. And a lot of, you know, I took the time to just like look all this up, and then I got on Book Face late Sunday evening and shared a bit about this. And so I also took the time to look up what the Olympics were about. And if you go back, before they were called the Olympics, it was considered a religious festival by gods who were of the Bible and stuff like that. And then what the flag with the rings in it stood for. And I looked all that up, and they want to bring peace and unity and other stuff like this.

So I'm not sure why these individuals were bringing the word demonic if they're listening to somebody that, you know, I guess a pastor or two or whatever out there. So you're talking about the opening Olympics, right? Yes, yes. OK. And the ceremony, right? Yes. And you're wondering why your friends would call that demonic?

Yeah, I think from what I was able to talk to a wonderful brother I know in the Lord, I've known him for about like three or four months now. And he said that there was like the portrayal of, I think, the Lord's Supper. And they were using transgender people. And I didn't know about that. I didn't watch the entire opening ceremony.

OK. Yes, there was a feast. The original guys who did this said it was supposed to be to the Greek god Dionysus. But it resembled the Last Supper from Leonardo da Vinci.

They had drag queens doing all this kind of stuff. And so it's been an uproar. The Olympic Committee apologized for this.

And so they did. They said it was never their intention to offend. Well, anybody who would say, well, we didn't intend to offend anybody has that kind of opening ceremony obviously doesn't have a functioning frontal lobe area of the brain. Because to say that we didn't intend to offend anybody, it's insane. OK, this is absolute stupidity.

Heads need to roll for this, OK, metaphorically speaking. Furthermore, if you look at this, two weeks before the game, there was a Brazilian surfer who was ordered to remove the image of Jesus from his surfboard. And the reason was because the officials said that the games are supposed to be neutral on everything. If that's the case, why did they let this pagan festival come in?

Paganism to false gods would be neutral. So the hypocrisy is there, OK? Well, and I understand that. And from just going and looking and reading and seeing what the overall situation is about in regards to the Olympics. And again, if you go and you look at it and you take the time to really, in a way, research it, it's saying that it was a religious festival. And what they would call the Olympics, it was called the Olympiad years and years and years ago. So it says that they talk about certain things that they feel were involved, what the rings signify, what the colors are.

And there are five rings, even though there are seven continents, that represent five continents that are majorly involved with the Olympiad and stuff like that. There's a lot going on, but do you have a more focused question or anything about all this? I'm just wondering what your thoughts are. I had a hard time with this. I don't see, I mean, what they're saying, they're trying to instill peace and unity for the people that are coming into to participate.

You know, one person shared that they like what I share, but they're liking the competition. And you don't see anything demonic in the overall situation. The overall situation, you mean, well, hold on. Hold that note.

You mean the Olympics, right? Yes. I see unity. I see the peace. I mean, you know, I just don't see anything demonic in the overall.

And I mean, with what I've watched, I see swimmers. I got you. I got you.

They're just people doing their sports. The issue here was the opening service. And that was a real failure. And what I understand also, the surfer who was told to not have an image of Jesus. And you know, so that's what I understand.

I don't know if there's any more that happened like that. But you know what, unfortunately. And that's what I'm trying to bring out, is that you don't see where I know that we're in a fallen society. And I know people are going to make nouns out of molehills about certain things. And I just wish people would see the forest for the trees in the overall situation. But it's OK.

I'm looking at it. I didn't know until Brother David shared with me earlier today about it, you know, what the couple of things were. And I mean, I understand it now. But I'm just not seeing the demonic thing.

It's the opening service that they're talking about. OK. So, OK. Well, I just would like to again give thanks. I'd like to again give thanks to the Lord for you. And I appreciate you. And I really am thankful. And just you're a really great, godly man. And I'm thankful for that. Well, thanks.

But I would contact the Truth Network and let them know that you appreciate their programming. OK. Yes, sir.

And I know several people there that can know that. OK. Sounds good. All right, brother. God bless you, man. You have a great day. Thanks for doing what you're doing. OK. Sure, no problem. God bless. All right.

Let's see. Let's get on with, hey, this guy's different, Alberto from Georgia. Hey, Alberto. Welcome. You're on the air. OK. Yeah. All right. I got a question for you.

But I want to make a quick time about the surfboard guy. He said the name is Jesus. It should. Because most of the time, they always put a view appearing Jesus on these pictures. So nobody knows how Jesus looks like in the first place.

So they should take it off in a way. That's my opinion. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right. Welcome back to the show. We have two open lines, 877-207-2276.

Alberto, welcome, Alberto. You're on the air. Yeah.

Yes, I'm right here. And my question was that a lot of people say that the New Testament has at least 1660,000 manuscripts now, that at least it could reach as high as the Empire State Building. Roughly 6,000 Greek manuscripts, large and small, fragments and large pieces, and even pages and pages and pages.

OK. It's about 6,000. Wait, is it 6,000 or is it 6,000?

6,000, 6,000, 0,000, 0,000. How come I saw a video about George McDowell called, Is the Bible Reliable and Accurate? And he has a green shirt on. He's older there.

And he mentioned that in the video. 66 may include the Greek, the Varying Old Testament manuscripts, Septuagint, different language manuscripts of early time in the first 200, 300, 400 years. So there's quite a bit of stuff. But Greek manuscripts, the last I heard was about 6,000.

What is it? 6,000. All right. And what was your question, too?

I heard on the John Eckhart ratio in 2015, they're having a debate between the King Jammers and the New Manatee Slaters. They were saying most of the King Jammers, the book of relation, used the Byzantium manuscripts. Is that true or not? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I have decided I couldn't tell you. So I wouldn't tell you all the manuscript stuff. Some guys love doing that.

That's not my bag. But Daniel B. Wallace, he's one of the top scholars in the Greek New Testament, right? OK. Yeah. I don't know if you heard of him. Daniel B. Wallace, you heard of him? Oh, yeah. Daniel Wallace, yeah, of course.

Yeah, he's good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, huh? Yeah.

All right, I just want to know, because I wasn't sure, there was the New 766,000 or 6,000, because they're British. I guess it's all in Greek. Greek manuscripts, yeah. But there's other languages that were translated to other languages very early. And a lot of those exist, too. OK?

I'll take that for your success. I also heard, too, that the one, the translator from the New King James, he said they don't have a manuscript that they potentially accepted by itself. Basically, it's also the Reformation crew that printed 30 different copies of the printed text. But that's not a manuscript, actually. I'm not understanding the words you're saying.

I'm not understanding all the words. What I'm saying is there's 30 different copies of the printed text from the Reformed Reformation guys. Prints. So in other words, there ain't such a thing as a text. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

The prints, P-R-I-N-T-S? That wouldn't make any sense. So you mean, OK, now you're talking about, OK, you're confusing the bejeebers out of me, OK? Early manuscripts, now you're talking about Reformation.

You're talking 1,000 years difference here. So I don't know what you're getting at. OK, well, then he said that nobody can point out this is the textual receptive manuscript because they had a 30 different copies of the Reformation period.

They had 30 different copies. So they just want extras with text, as we would say, art. But when I do try to submit it, translate it. OK? Thank you. OK. That's all. All right, man. Thanks a lot. Thank you so much.

OK, thank you. Bye-bye. OK. All right, let's get to Robert from Virginia.

Robert, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt, how you doing? I'm doing all right, hanging in there. Hanging in there, man.

So what do you got, buddy? To Matt, I got a question, me and my fiance have been together for 13 years now. I know it's a long time to not be married or anything yet. But are you living together? Well, yes, sir. We are living together.

We have three. OK, you need to move out tonight. You need to get out of there tonight.

Need to move out tonight. Yes. Are you a Christian?

Yes, sir. Then why are you living with a woman who's not your wife? Well, you know, I was living a better life. Because you're in rebellious sin against God. Because you're in sin against God, you need to move out and or you're going to get a pastor today and you get married. So you're not in sin anymore. OK?

OK. We'll tackle other stuff, but this is much more important. If you call yourself a Christian, you better behave like a Christian and not live with a woman and have relations with her, have children with her for all these years and you haven't married her. This is great sin and rebellion against God.

You're lucky God hasn't killed you in your rebellion. You need to own up. You don't sleep with her until you're married, period. And you get married.

You go call a church up wherever you go. You say you need to get married now and he comes over with witnesses. You go through the ceremony, do what you got to do, or you go to a judge, whatever. You will get married, but you get married.

And in the meantime, you go stay with somebody until that's done. OK? OK. Yeah. All right, thanks, man. OK. Now what do you got as a question, though?

You called up for something. Do you want to? Because, OK. I know I got on you, but man, this is tough stuff.

This is true. All right? So what was your original question going to be? Are you there?

No? OK, he's gone. So look, if you're a Christian out there and you claim to follow Jesus Christ, if you are fornicating with someone, then you need to stop that now. You need to repent before God, and you need to ask forgiveness before God and the one with whom you are fornicating.

And you need to never do that again. You don't satisfy your own flesh. You don't do that in the opposition of the truth of God. You don't justify it. Well, it's just a person, you know, and it's inconvenient. Well, we're just doing it.

I don't want to hear any stupid, lame excuses. I tell the men politely but firmly, you man up. You get it done.

You do what you have to do. You stop sinning, or you marry her. And if you're a woman, don't be getting involved with this kind of stuff. And I've had couples that I've counseled on the couch in my office, and they're going to get married. And I say, OK, have you been fooling around?

Well, occasionally. I said, OK. This is how it works, because they want me to do their wedding. I say, I won't do your wedding if you fornicate anymore. Once more, and we push it back six months, or you find someone else to do the wedding.

And their eyes bug out. I said, let's talk about sin. Let's talk about rebellion against God. And I turn to her, and I say, this is a guy willing to go to bed with you in violation of the word of God, in direct contradiction to the word of God, and you want to trust the rest of your life with him? He's willing to sin and serve his own flesh in order to just have pleasure against the will of God? And you want to marry him? And I turn to the guy, and I say, this is the woman you want to marry who will gladly participate in fornication and sin against God?

And you want to have a life with her? What kind of Christian is she? What kind of Christian are you? Oh, I hit him hard.

So you better know what you're getting into. You better stop this. If you don't, the blessings are off of you. God's going to deal with you, even in the judgment of the hardening of your heart and the condemning of you. You'll either be killed, or God's going to severely punish you. But you have been allowed to breathe and continue because of nothing but God's grace.

I've got to say this every now and then to people out there. I know a lot of Christians that use whatever justification they can to justify, to excuse their rebellion against God. And they go to church.

And they're living with their boyfriend, their girlfriend, their fiance, whatever, not married, having relations. And then they go to church. God understands. No, he doesn't understand.

And you are lucky he hasn't judged you right now for such great rebellion and sin against him. And if you are in that situation, you need to stop now, instantly, done. If you're living with someone who you're not married to and you're having relations, you move out. Now you find a place.

You call up your friends. Dude, I need to sleep on the couch. We're going to get married, but I'm not married now.

Listen to a guy on the radio named Slick, and he's right. I'm just going to do what's right before God. And then you get married.

You do that so that you're not in sin. And you take that marriage seriously. You take care of that woman. Woman, you respect that husband.

You take care of any kids. You do what's right, and you stick it out, no matter how tough it gets. And I know how tough it can get. Oh, trust me, I know. You do what you've got to do, because that's what a man does.

That's what a mature woman does, too. Oh, it got difficult. I didn't love him anymore. So what?

So what? You don't stay in a marriage because you love somebody. You stay in a marriage because God has ordained that you marry that person. You're committed to God. You've committed to that person. And now, if you don't feel the love now, they have the opportunity to truly love. And the true love is sacrificial. And your spouse or your friend may not be as loving as you want them to be, but it doesn't mean you're excused from obligation of loving them, not remembering wrong suffered. You are to love them, whether you feel like it or not. And I've got to talk to people about this. They should know better.

The Church should be teaching them. All right, we'll be right back after these messages. It's Matt Slick live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show.

The next longest-waiting person is Andrea, and then we'll get to Justin. All right, Andrea, welcome. You're on the air.

Are you there? I'm hearing clicking. Oh, there you go. All right, I hear you. Oh, hello. I'm sorry.

I was adjusting my headphones. It's all right. Hello, Matt. Hello.

Hello, so my question is if you can hear me. As you can tell, I'm from England. And I came to America because God told me to.

And my question is, when I first came to America, I'm on the radio. When I first came to America, there were so many different churches. And as a Christian, I was like, well, which one do I go to?

There's so many different denominations. Which one do I go to? And now the problem I have is there's so many Bible versions. It's like, how can you tell someone who's not a Christian which Bible to use?

Do you want to know which one to use? Well, I personally use the KJV. That's fine. I personally use the KJV.

That's fine. The King James is fine. If you were to do super serious study, I'd use something different. But the King James is fine. So the best Bible is the one that meets the intention of what you want. So let me give an example of something like in Spanish, to say, I am hungry in Spanish, you say, yo tengo hombre, which is literally, I have hunger. That's what it literally is in Spanish.

Well, when we translate that into English, we can say, I have hunger, or I'm hungry, or even really loosely, I'm starving. So the idea of translating from Greek into English or the Hebrew into English carries these kinds of issues. So do we want to have a Bible that is very literal to the original languages but is smoothed out enough that you can understand it in English, NASB?

That's what that is. Do you want to have a Bible that is more smoothed while it's staying true? So the other one is staying true and smooth. The other one is smoothed first and then staying true. A little bit of a different emphasis. That would be the NIV.

The easiest Bible to read is the NIV. But did you know that there are 63,000 words missing out of the NIV? Well, not exactly. No, not exactly. The King James has lots of problems with it.

I can tell you right away. But when the King James was translated, it was translated with roughly, back in the 1600s, early 1600s, it was done with 5th and newer, from the 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, that kind of thing, 5th century documents. Since it's been translated, the archaeologists have found even older manuscripts. There's a general rule about copying and copyist stuff that the older the manuscripts, the more accurate they are. Because scribes, for example, by handwriting, they would do this with a candle.

They would often do this with not the best sleep, with not the best food. And they would write. And they might know a passage by memory. And they're not supposed to even do it by memory. They're supposed to always write. Well, sometimes they make little mistakes. And sometimes they might write a comment when they made a mistake in a margin.

This word goes here. Because they couldn't just crumple it up, Xerox it off, get started over really fast, print up a new copy. It wasn't like that. It was expensive.

It was difficult to do. They often wrote marginal notes. The marginal notes, sometimes 100 years later, were included inside of texts, little bitty things, little bitty changes. This doesn't happen very often. But this is the kind of stuff that would occur.

And so the older, from 5th, 6th, 7th, then more opportunity for those to come in is there. So when they go to older manuscripts, then they find out those additions weren't there. So when the King James people say, oh, the newer Bibles have stuff taken out are not true. No, the real way to say it is the King James has stuff added in it that wasn't true. Wow. Yeah, it's a completely different perspective. I do have just one more question, King, regarding the guy that was speaking about the ceremony. I don't personally watch TV, which is the eyes, the lamp, and the body.

And there's a lot of dangerous things out there right now. Well, I can't understand you. I'm sorry. It went muffled for me. My hearing is a little bit bad. But could you repeat that?

I'm sorry. Yes, so the guy that was speaking about the ceremony of the Olympics, I don't personally have a TV, because the eyes, the lamp, and the body. So I have to be careful.

I watch. And they were talking about peace, and unity, and stuff like that. Now, we know as Christians that in the Bible, it says when they say peace and safety, sudden destruction will come upon the Earth as a woman travails in birth, and there'll be no escape. Could this possibly be, I know assumptions are very dangerous, but could this possibly be the false peace that Jesus is talking about, bringing all the nations together? Well, we don't know. A lot of people are always looking for any way to relate any current event to the testimony of scripture. Could it be?

Because we want to go home, that's why. Yes, because they want to have a pre-tribulation rapture, which is not in the Bible also. Pre-tribulation rapture is not in the Bible?

No, it's not biblical. It's not there. I can prove it to you, too. Yeah, I can. Can you? Yes, I can. I can show you why it's not, OK? OK. You hear that?

OK. Look it up? Go to Matthew 24, right? And it says in Matthew 24, we're going to have a whole bunch of time to do all this. Read through it, because in verse 3, they asked Jesus, what would be the end of the age, the sign of his coming? And he says, false prophets will arise, be perilous times, and things like this. And he says, immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, et cetera, et cetera. And the Lord will send forth his angels with a great trumpet, and they'll gather his elect. This is after the tribulation, when the gathering occurs, right? That's what it says.

Wow. So we have to go through the tribulation to be refined, right? Well, it's not an issue of being refined.

It sounds like you're getting some not too good teaching here. But that's not what that's for. Also, you go to 1st Thessalonians 4.16, for the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Those are the people who died in faith.

We who are alive and are able to cut up together to meet him in the clouds. OK? And so that's what that is. And it's only one return of Christ. And Jesus says in Matthew 24, it occurs after the tribulation, when the people are gathered. And what makes things even worse, oh, this will really mess you up. OK? This is Matthew 13.30. And I'll read a little bit more. It'll mess you up good.

I mean, I'm smiling, you know, because I do this with people and they go, what? And so it's in the parable of the wheat and the chairs. OK? And it says, allow both to grow together till the time of the harvest. And I'll say to the reapers, first gather the tares.

Yes. First ones are gathered are the tares. Now, when you go to Matthew 24, Luke 17, three men in the field, I mean, two men are in the field, one is taken, one is left, right? That's the rapture, they say, right?

It's not. When you read the context, it's the wicked who are taken. Just go to Luke 17 and read it. And they even ask Jesus, where are they taken? And he answers the question.

Where the body is, the vultures gather. That's what it is. Wow.

That's amazing. So the preacher rapture saying. We will be here for the mark of the beast. Yes, we're going to be here. And we're going to. See, I knew this was true.

And people were telling me it's not. And we do have to go through it. And we are going to a cashless society. And people are not ready for the mark of the beast.

They think we're going home. You got that right. That's the danger of it. And there might be no great apostasy because of it, a great falling away. Wow. But people have their hope in the pre-tribulation rapture. And I would debate this.

I would have a public debate on it. What's that? Wow. They want a quick escape out. But we've been taught the Bible and what is going to happen. So we have to stay behind and be an example to the ones that are not Christians and show them why we're not going to take the mark of the beast, even at suffering.

Well, yeah. I mean, people use this pre-trib rapture stuff all the time. They'll say, no, it didn't go through the tribulation of the flood. Yes, he did. He was right there.

He could have thrown something into the water. He was right there in the ark. Well, the ark is a kind of rapture.

No, it's not. They were in the flood. You know, they're preserved through it.

So that can go on and on and on. I got a lot more information, but that'll be good for you now, OK? Wow, that's amazing. Yes.

Wow. You know, there's so many people talking about the rapture and everything else on YouTube and everything else. But the one thing that's missing is they're not preparing their hearts with God. And they don't have a fear of God. They're more interested in having a lot of people.

How many followers have I got? You know what I mean? That's dangerous. They're not preparing their hearts. And they will be left behind.

Not everybody that says, Lord, Lord, will be entering the kingdom of God. Right. Very dangerous in reverse. Yes. Well, yeah, I can talk about that, too.

But we've got another caller. OK. I understand. Thank you, Matt, for your time. You, too. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye. I know I just messed a lot of people up.

No, it's not true. We're going to get raptured out. Show me the Bible where that occurs. Show me where you get raptured out before the tribulation.

Show it to me in scripture. But just call me up later if you can find it. Let's get it. Justin from New Hampshire, Justin, welcome. You're on the air. Hello, Mr. Slick.

How you doing? You know, it always sounds weird, even though I hear it, Mr. Slick. It just, for all these years, I still can't get used to it. Unfortunately, with three minutes, this is a very loaded question. My question was, were the presuppositional issues with transgenderism very loaded? The presuppositional issues with transgenderism is that they presuppose that gender is a fluid thing.

It is not from God, not ordained from God, but is merely a biological thing that is determined by what they prefer, by experience. So basically, what transgenderism is is the fruit of the denial of absolute truth. And it is a form of New Age philosophy and relativism. And so you can do whatever you feel like. And that's what it basically is, OK?

OK, so I guess it was not loaded for you. I was talking to a transgender person the other day, and a guy going to a girl. And I won't refer to that person by the female name. I call that person Mr. T, Mr. Transgender.

Yes. I said, you can't require me to go against what I believe is right and wrong, revealed by my God. And you want me to start referring to you by a name, a female name, when you're not?

I'm not doing that. I'm sorry, you know? OK? I agree, totally. Well, I mean, that was pretty easy for you.

I thought it was going to be a little more issues than that. So are you on threads at all, you know what that is? No. So Instagram, Facebook, they have an app called Threads. I'll have to check it out. Email me the info, and I'll need to get in there.

I have heard a little bit about that, but I'm trying to find someone who can teach me how to do all the social media stuff, because I'm writing articles, researching, debating, teaching, you know? And I've got a book I have to publish, or I've got so much. Oh, there's the music. And your muffled, too.

What, because your muffled, too? I can't hear you, we've got to go, because there's the music. Call back tomorrow, OK?

I'll tell you about it, all right, buddy? We've got to go. Thank you, bye. All right, man. Hey, folks, hope you enjoyed the show. And even if you didn't enjoy the show, I'm glad you listened. May the Lord bless you, by His grace, back on there tomorrow. We'll talk to you then. Have a good evening. Another program powered by the Truth Network.