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Romans Ch 8

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January 19, 2022 8:30 am

Romans Ch 8

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January 19, 2022 8:30 am

The Journey of Romans continues with your favorite host Mike Zwick! Learn the message that the Lord has stored in Romans Ch 8.

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Because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can it be so, then those who are in the flesh cannot please God, but you are not in the flesh but in the spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you know if anyone does not have the spirit of Christ, he is not his. And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you and him to stop at verse 11. Would you take from the just the beginning, I shoot there is there are now four. There is therefore now no condemnation is like a critical understanding in my right right right with daily walk that when I start to begin the field condemned in some way shape or form either. Whether that's through a voice that I'm hearing in my head or from somebody I'm talking to it is like a big check engine light flashing on my dashboard saying this is from God. This isn't from God. Sure, because he doesn't he doesn't offer up that condemnation and so it's it's a way of understanding the battles of foot and that I've got some processing to do because of the way I'm feeling and there was that there was a quote and if the sumps this is not somebody I typically listen to, but it's cutting Bill Johnson. I think we both liked it but it says that any area of my life for which I have no hope is under the influence of why and if you know anybody like this but there are some people that I know where every time I'm around them. Every time I talk to them it's like to have something negative to say either to me about me or about maybe life in general and it's like slowly started to avoid those people rock once it really hard for me.

I guess being in my line of work time. I have a lot of folks have got a lot to say about the church well you know the from my perspective the church is the body of Christ to the text that really mean it's his body is when I start hearing all the stuff about the church.

Is this the church is that in the end of the warning signs going off my head going man madman mean we need to steer this conversation because yes, we all have opportunities that were wet but literally I mean this is the body of Christ and there is no not now no condemnation, especially if there's any place are supposed to be non-I mean where we write with it for time of the church.

You know this is a place where no judgment frees you know it and and and I heard, I think it was Chuck Swindoll had said that years ago and he said that you know the church he said we have enough people throwing stones at us.

He says we don't need to be throwing stones at each other and so you know, just to take that to another step. I mean there are plenty of denominations. There are plenty of people in different churches are different styles of worshipers the charismatics on a metal surface. But you never in and so you know, just because we have a little bit different of beliefs are different interpretation or we see things a little bit differently. We don't need to be going after each other in and I believe for what's coming in this country and what's coming against the church and you could just see it.

I mean, you know what just turn on the television and everything on there is anti-Christian and everything that I see is anti-Christian and there are terrorists there stuff that I see on TV now that 20 years ago never would've been 20 there's a and I know you like and be shocked by the hundred 19 Psalm sentiment in the sonic section which actually versus starts at verse 113 and the sonic is a letter that actually usually means support like and forgot to give somebody hug. It looks like a circle but here is very interesting person says I hate the double minded. But I love your law and heard a rabbi teach on this verse really really beautiful and it really is helpful to me that this same rabbi was asked to to speak on this panel about this Judaism promote hate and he was concerned that he was gonna be on this panel like and I can remember one time and I maybe even told you this, I was doing a remoteness lady came up and she was to give me this a donation and then she said oh you're Christian you guys promote hate and she ripped up the check right in front I didn't even say a word lady, one where the other, but yet this this rabbi was gonna be at asked to be on this panel to see if he promoted Haiti as the first buddy of his in New York what you know what he thought about hate in this this rabbi said oh yeah what you know we hate sin. We hate this and so he he went about telling that he goes then I went to what I consider to be the smartest man that is alive today that was actually the associate to the big read about you know is like a big big deal.

God and he looked at him like He Was Hasted Hate Way, Donnay you know you can hear them yet is aware that Eddie and he goes out and he says we love, but hate is the underbelly of love. In other words, the things that we hate are the things that Kurt, the one that we love and you see what I mean, there's a difference between people that hate and hate that imitates what drives them. But if you're driven by love right, which is where Paul is going with this verse that there is no now no condemnation right because the whole thing is driven by Christ's love for you and see for hate is the underbelly of love. In other words a minute hate things that get in the way of people getting closer to Christ. But I'm not a Mecca hate any part of that you see another beautiful thing, some of your father in heaven. When I think about that am reminded of the story of Richard Gormley where Richard were brain was absolutely taught. He was tortured for Christ started that whole organization where we had that guy on Todd Nettleton voice of the martyrs.

But you know, through his torture through his torment Richard were brain saw was he saw the people who were torturing him. The guards in the prisons and he saw them coming to Christ and it wasn't because of some great intellectual thing what they saw was they saw his response to how he to how he responded. When they were torturing him and one of the examples was was that Richard Moore ran was was actually praying in the guard after the garden tortured Richard were brain, he said we doing. He said in Richard Moore printed on praying for you and the guy right then and there became a Christian to me that that's where it's I think what I read the rest of that chapter I I see that there should be something different about us and that there is something different about us and it says in Romans chapter 8 it says that you are his. It's as if his spirit lives in you. And so for me is that if somebody's torturing you and then you turn around and and say hey man, I'm praying for you or I love you, or how can I help you mean that to me that's what an unbelieving world just finds unbelievable what I'm telling you man not only Richard were bran but also Louisiana Perini when the people who were torturing him in World War II and he went back to them and said I forgive you hundreds and hundreds of of the Japanese who were formerly torturing him or formerly were mistreating the American said hey I want some of this Jesus stuff and they and they gave their lives right on the spot to Jesus Christ and that's what I want to see Robbie right and so it's a challenge to us always is, is this technique away from the iniquity of other Madonna measure myself against anybody else, whether that be the church inside the church outside the church to go okay for me in this situation right now. How can I love appropriately to the point that what I say is go ahead bring hope what we talked about a network is going to bring some impact to the people that are around me because I realize it that I need Jesus every bit as much. You know, is anybody, talk to today. Believe me, it's almost like walking around based on what Romans chapter 8 says is you live in the spirit okay with you live in the spirit, then you've got Christ in you got the Holy Spirit in you. I love what it actually says 13 sawhorses. How long will I seek counsel in my own soul. Having sorrows in my heart daily.

In other words, as long as I'm sitting there in my own soul just talking to me I would have sorrows in my heart daily so it's a challenge if you live in the flesh like numbing times did you hear that in just a short that you read you live in the flesh, you know, in the spirit of you live in the spirit. The good news is there's three live in with the father the son and Spirit will of the things that I have to ask myself is this is that even a trust for so long in this country. It's been really easy to be an American.

I mean, we haven't really had the financial problem you people trusted in the stock market trust in the 401(k) trust in their jobs trusted in their security and then, oh all of a sudden this little bug comes over and now everybody's freaking out, but I've noticed that the people who are Christians who are born-again Christians that there has been a difference in them is matter fact I think I told you this before there was actually an article that they came out with in the USA today pump a year ago your and half ago. It was during Kovic and what they said was that every single demographic whether it's Moslems or atheists or whoever it was their happiness quotient has gone down. They said that even during the pandemic.

He said that the US that USA Today said that there was one group of people whose happiness quotient actually went actually got happier during the pandemic. You know it was the Christians who were going to church and I just thought it was interesting that so many different places and so many, even churches themselves were just closing their doors down and saying hey were not enemy but there were some who said were still good to meet into me when I see that that's awesome in the USA today actually recommended that people start going to church any any how cool is that right now and and we see that whole idea. Again it's it's it's repeated time and again in this in Psalm 119 idea what they call precepts are actually meetings with God and with others. So, if you keep your pretreatment. It's actually like.

I think the third verse, or the fourth verse says God has commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently will that precepts idea is idea of meeting with God, which again in your own soul. The father the son and the Holy Spirit, but also meeting with others because as it says in Hebrews right for sake the gathering of yourselves together. Why because when we get together just like you and I are right here, right. How many times in a few list them in my game.

Like the time I'll say some it's for some wonderful out of Mike or Michael say some it's for someone to flood me well it wasn't one of what what it was is Christ in me or the Holy Spirit in me reflecting something that he'd Artie put there in order for me to reflect back yet. Matter fact and I like it, which are talking about is Hebrews 1025 and is starting in verse 24. Actually, it says and let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works. This is not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another in so much more as you see the Day approaching. And here we go.

Talk about sentences in verse 26 it says, for if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice and sacrifice percent, but a certain feel for fearful expectation and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries, and so so you know if you're listening I'm not Sam not talking about perfectionist. That's not what were talking about, but I do believe that we should live in a way that is pleasing to the order that we should try to please the Lord is matter fact I think we were just talking about this is that that went. When I got saved. Robbie it and and I knew that I wanted it. You know I wanted to start this Christian life. I didn't want to obey the Lord just because I was afraid that he was in the Caribbean. Hell, if I if I didn't do what's right. I realize that you know he loved us when when I was unlovable.

He loved me when I was unlovable and in somebody that great. I wanted to live a life that was pleasing and was cool is actually we are talking perfection because, well, that's the very first line in the hundred 19 Psalm it says blessed are the undefiled in the way okay so just undefiled will that word if you're looking for a spotless lamb to have as a sacrifice.

In Hebrew, that word is perfect okay you're looking wait a minute you looking for somebody perfect in the way will have the get that way they got that way through Jesus's blood.

In other words, they admitted that they were perfect and so by living in the spirit right by actually being in the spirit. Guess what happens it just like it says blessed of the undefiled in the way. Blessed are the perfect one. It says in the way that means you're walking in the narrow path right walking along Lord. They also note says they also seek his testimonies, and I mean they keep his testimonies, and they seek him with her whole heart. Most of the first two verses and in that person is from God's perspective right even though yeah you got sin. Yeah, you got struggle all the stuff we just talked about in Romans seven, but it's as if you're walking in the spirit just what you got perfection because that is righteous so you believe God, and it was counted and right, just that you believe that his son had to die.

If you get that stuff. For by grace you are saved through faith. It is not of yourselves, so that no one may boast an inmate he would work talking about this Robbie maybe what were really getting at is who are you that I trust in this is the whole thing are you trusting yourself really trust in Jesus, and I know I great comfort. We had him on a couple of times but he does a great job where he says you know where you get to heaven.

Summary out there say yeah because he's why you get to heaven because I'm a pretty good person and he says have you ever told a lie and they go to lies all the time is what we call somebody who tells lies in this wire. Have you ever have you ever lusted somebody in your own heart and they go yeah cases well he says according to what Jesus said. He said if you if you've lusted after woman in your own heart you commit adult adultery already in your own heart.

This is what we call somebody who emits adultery in adulterer he says have you ever stolen anything and they go will yeah this is so far you've told me you're a liar herein adulterer and your thief. He says and you think you belong, you're able to get into heaven on your own works in an and so if you're going to get to heaven on your own works, there has to be absolute perfection in the me tell you ain't nobody perfect ain't nobody perfect. The Bible says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

But Jesus paid it all, all to him.

We owe sin had left a crimson stain, he washed it white as snow but if you're gonna get to that point. First you have to get to the point to where you are going to humble yourself and realize that you need to trust in Jesus original song and it says to do so's we to try still in Jesus's job was to say his word should us to rest upon whose promise jobs to go. Those say the Lord Jesus. Jesus's how I trust him how I proved to move over and over Jesus. Jesus prayer wishes Jesus 04 gravies to try us to move or and I tell you what Robbie, when you trust in Jesus, and you no longer trusting in yourself and you trust in Jesus, you know it it's it's kinda like he says in the in in in his word when Jesus is says this himself.

He says come to me, all you were weary and laden, and I will give you rest for my for my burden is easy and my yoke is light and I'd rather put my burdens upon Jesus and try to do it myself because I can't make it on my own. You set a mouthful. After you sign a mouthful I sung about it whenever you go back to you. Romans eight chapter 1 just think about what it wait a minute. There is no condemnation.

So how do you get no condemnation unless you are in fact, without spot unless you are without sin, and if if if you how do you get to the point where there is no condemnation well, as is Polly pointed out earlier, you got there.

You know, by trusting you know you got there because you believed God, and it was credited to you for his righteousness in and it is through him that you got no condemnation right, but then when you say. Take my yoke.

That's really really cool thing because from the Hebrew word from the Jewish standpoint right so these guys that were following Jesus right from their perspective.

He was a rabbi and when you went under a rabbi. Then all of a sudden you got Street credit) you know in that culture. At that time.

You know who your rabbi is depended on how people looked at your right and some of Jesus was your rabbi then then then you know that was that was a big huge deal. I mean, because the people had all kinds of respect for him as a teacher, but think about you know where all that is that when he when he said take my yoke. That was the word they use for being under a particular rabbi okay and so when he saying that if you if these people went out and they wanted some other rabbis yoke.

I mean he was gonna put stuff on them because the Pharisees or the Sadducees, take your pick apart all kinds of stuff on them that they had to do in order to supposedly become righteous at all or not do, as the case may be at least 613 mitzvah is a day that they had to do and not do. And all these things that they're gonna do and and so when you just get back to what what I said you said a mouthful that when he saying look at and and it really comes down to what you said it, and from my standpoint when the Last Supper happen right he should do this in remembrance of me right before mindful, but we talked regular you live in the spirit or you live in the flesh. Are you to be mindful are you do this in remembrance of me. Meaning your whole life mean my gonna remember that oh yeah Jesus paid for this all yeah I don't need to do that because Jesus cleansed. Oh yeah, so how long will I seek counsel in my soul.

Having sorrows in my heart they let you know like a friend of mine said Robbie that's like a clever Lang said you know I have a prediction for you if you want to seek counseling your own soul. Remember clever Lang and Rocky three of pain yeah I am searching for is his pain.

Yeah yeah I know I'm actually I'm actually reminded of the story.

There was a pastor who is out with a couple of his elders and they were Newport Beach, California, and they were walking down the road and all of a sudden they saw. They walked past the bar and there was this great big bar fight that was right outside of the bar in the soul and into the streets and so they said they didn't know exactly what to do. So they went up to that there is two or three guys were beating up on this one guy and they went to the guys and they said hey guys, cut it out, and the guys who were beating the got one guy up. They said it didn't do anything.

Nobody stop to be stop anything they said all of a sudden the guys were beating up on the one guy stopped and they looked at them and they they had fear in their eyes and they said oh no what what's going on and all of a sudden they looked back and behind them was theirs. There was this great big guy about 300 pounds 6 foot seven solid muscle and he's the pastor and his his elders called this guy Bubba not to his face behind his back. Of course later and they said that as soon as Bubba showed up. All he did was kind of scared these guys and flexed his muscles, and they slowly started to walk away and so that the pastor in these two elders when they saw the guys walking away. They said yeah and you better. It would better not get you come around here but what what this pastor said was, he said how cool would it be he said if we had Bubba standing behind us all of the time who was watching out for us, who was with essence and stuff like that and they said that the truth is is that there's not a Bubbas can't be around us all the time were always somewhere else. They said but we do have somebody else Yahweh more than Bubba, you know. And that's the idea of the fear of the Lord right mean is that's actually you know one of my favorite passages in the Bible.

Actually those who know me know I died. I spent a lot of time years in Isaiah 11 where you get the seven anointing's Christ you know is going to have in actually every single letter in Hebrew has the seven anointing's in there wisdom and understanding, and counsel and might, but then comes the biggie when you get down to number six. It is fear the Lord, which okay so that's that's my own. But then there's this place of delight than the seventh anointing that Jesus gets in Isaiah 11 of the light in the fear of the Lord and that's when you know that Bubba is over your shoulder all the time. By the way Bubba is Jesus.

Such is actually more than Jesus because if you think about it, you read the high priestly prayer is it's kinda cool and you might even do this because I think it's really fun this circuit is take your thumb and stick it up okay and then take your your right hand. You take your left thumb is to Take your right hand put around it like this. Okay I now is is in the high priestly prayer, Jesus said, I'm not got the fathers not to let anybody be snatched out of my hand while earlier it says that a course. The father wasn't going to let Jesus be snatched out of his hands. Or take your other rest your fingers watch my hand and put them up over your other hand.

And so you now you got the father holding on to Jesus, who is now holding on to you now is anybody anybody when they talk about mother and about Jesus and then on top Jesus went about. There is nobody going to snatch any note there's no snatching going on.

I mean and that's we talked about affliction and in the seventh chapter and no matter what in the world I if you are living in the spirit in you truly understand that the light in the fear the Lord is.

You not only have the Holy Spirit not only have the father and ain't nothing, nothing, not nobody, something is not know and I just want to thank one of our sponsors. Greater love world outreach Center over in Burlington North Carolina at 537 S. Ireland St. they have services Sunday at 1030 in the morning and they have a Wednesday night services seven pastor Ron Harris. He's been on the station before that we love to have him on if you want to feel welcomed, made to feel like you're at home, go visit greater love world outreach Center over in Burlington. This is the Truth Network


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