Critical Race Theory and Social Justice Part 2

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It's the black guy and the white guy. We're back, Roy, and I tell you that last week's discussion was such a good discussion. We're going to continue talking about it, which is, again, critical race theory and social justice as it is defined by the movements that you see and individuals who have written on these particular subjects of critical race theory and social justice. So you, when we left last time, Roy, you were reading about a paper from an individual who basically was throwing out her opinion in reference to what she believes, and so you were talking about that on last show.

Yeah, thank you, Will. The article, rather, the name of the paper was White Privilege, Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack. So we had gotten up to point number seven last week, which is in our refresh, was I can be sure this is this lady's position and thoughts as it relates to her walk in life. Number seven was I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race. If I want to, I can be, number eight, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege. I can go into a music shop and count on finding music of my race represented into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions into a hairdresser shop and find someone who can cut my hair. Whether I use checks, credit cards, or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of my financial reliability. I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.

I can sear or dress in secondhand clothes or not answer letters without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty, or the illiteracy of my race. Now this was a letter or documentary or narrative written in 1989 if I remember correctly. So my point is this is all one person's opinion and this was much, much later than segregation quite a few years later I guess about what 20 years after desegregation started or so, right, 22 years, and look how far we've come today compared to that period. But what's interesting is that people are still building around this type of narrative or response rather than critically thinking like we talked about in the last show and that being, you know, really evaluating all the facts and making the decision and then declaring a path and a journey according to them, which the first foundational piece should be the Bible before we go any further as a reminder. Exactly, Roy. And, you know, it goes beyond that the article that what Roy just read because there's another subject within critical race theory and social justice that's called interest convergence and what interest convergence says, and again this is not my view this is the view of individuals who have written on the subject and again who have embraced the viewpoints of critical race theory and they say that interest convergence says that according to an individual who have written on this subject back in the 80s and his name is Bell or 90, 96 maybe, his last name is Bell, he said that when legislation passes it passes only because it benefits one group of people over another. Now, I want you to listen to that statement really well because when you look at the broad base of it the first thought an individual take when they listen to that is they say well yeah that that's why we were fighting for civil rights back in and in the 1960s you know because of things like this but this is how you can get pulled in saints when you allow yourself to perch and ultimately grasp for the nuggets of this type of thinking now you've allowed yourself to get off course and so in the second half of the show we're going to talk about Roy you know that the Bible addresses racial issues it addresses partiality and we're going to see this in Ephesians chapter 2 verses 11 through 18 we're going to see that but we're going to talk about that in a second so all of this all of this critical race theory doctrine and I guess we can call it dogma as well yeah when we see this it they have taken things from history which have happened and they're continuing to put that to the forefront and when that remains the forefront of your argument or issue now we we it's like a circular thing you start off talking about a particular subject but when you end up you always end up at race or racial issues it becomes a race thing and this is why they've identified Delgado he identified in that he said racism is normal and and everybody is racist you know so they they have racial tendencies now again when you think about that for an individual who is unsafe and who an individual who does not understand history of the United States as it opposed to uh indigent people or people who were brought here if you don't understand the history behind that now you you say that sounds good and so now you grasp it and you hold on to it and you run with it and then you do what this woman has done uh Roy you start bringing forth an opinion based on your understanding of what you heard or read or just what's in your heart right not just what you heard or read but also what's in your heart which could be uh you know obviously bad life experiences anger all those things that could could flow into our writings and there's no question we've seen that happen if we are followers of Christ should we see skin color no because again we're going to address this in Ephesians chapter 2 verses 11 through 18 we're going to see how the Lord God through what Jesus Christ did on the cross he brought together Jew and Gentile Gentiles did not like um the Jews the Jews did not like the Gentiles because you know they were uncircumcised I recall what uh David said when he was going out to fight Goliath he he said it you uncircumcised you know enemy basically you so so he was pointing out that you were not part of the covenant because you were non-Jewish and we have the Lord God on our side who do you have so so and see when when again when we think in terms of the Lord is fighting our battle it is the Lord who is to the forefront of our conversation and not race now all of a sudden we're not only fulfilling the the the great commission but we're also filling filling those things that Jesus Christ have called us to do as representatives of the kingdom folks think about that for just a second when you leave for work or when you're at your workplace and you see a person that doesn't look like you what is your first thought as a follower of Christ is your first thought well there's a white man or there's a black man or there's a black woman or white woman or is it hey what if that person knows Christ or there's my sister or there's my brother in Christ which of those is the right approach what is which of those ones and the question you should be asking yourself and I think that's at times when we there's so much noise out here will it and folks that's exactly what it is we've talked with you in the past if satan can just get you off center then he may not impact your eternity but if you're focused on things that aren't of God it may impact your neighbor's eternity it might impact your spouse's eternity but if you're focused on things that aren't of God it might impact your spouse's eternity it might impact your children's attorney because if you're not on course and you're not continuing to work for the kingdom you may miss an opportunity to share the gospel with one of those people because you're you're diverted you're distracted and you're in the middle of something that you shouldn't be in the middle of and people are watching you they are that's the other thing too is that we may very well be a stumbling block if we're operating outside of the spirits leading and guiding when and when we do that you know now we've allowed the enemy to come down this open avenue that we've let him in just because of the way we think and of course you know I'm a man of all of the scripture but one that I of course I quote often is is Romans 12 1 and 2 you know we have to have our not mind renewed daily and and of course Philippians 2 5 says the same thing in essence let this mind be in you which is also in Christ Jesus so if you're sitting on his mind if you're understanding what the scripture says regarding racism or racial tendencies that people have stereotypes oh yeah stereotypes existed existed back in the days of Jesus and beyond you know all people in some form or fashion had things done to them by some place that they disapproved of now when we look at today's times we're saying things like this because of sin they're going to continue but we as God's people we have to rise above that Roy we got to and if we don't rise above it then we'll become partakers of it which if you're participating in it you're guilty of it you're guilty by association and then you know would God approve of my position in this particular area that's the other question would God approve of my thought process would God approve of my actions would God approve of the results and most likely the answer is going to be no unless everything that you're doing is back looking through a biblical lens and you're trying to make reparation with your neighbors and trying to be a peacemaker instead of instead of an antagonist or living back in and creating this whirlwind of noise that's going to distract you distract your children distract your your family members it's it's a crazy cycle folks we're we're just trying to help get ourselves and you and everyone else looking through Christ and looking to Christ daily and what we're going to do when we come back we're going to read to you Ephesians chapter 2 11 through 18 and we're going to see how Jesus Christ had mended the relationship between Jew and Gentile TAWCMM would love to have you join their community of men for breakfast every first and third Friday of every month they have Bible discussions and fellowship after the best breakfast in town the meeting location is at their gracious host church first Christian church in Kernersville 1130 North Main Street in Kernersville they have a hard start at seven 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who are called uncircumcision by what is called circumcision made in the flesh by hands and what what God is blessing through the Apostle Paul here to say is Ephesian Christians remember when the ones who were circumcised which were the Jews they basically called you out because you were uncircumcised so basically you couldn't have fellowship with them and they couldn't have fellowship with you so the so because you were uncircumcised you were not part of God's covenant verse 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise without hope and without God in the world 13 but now in Christ Jesus you once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ and see the the blessing here with with verse 12 is that he begins to name the things that the uncircumcised or in this case he's speaking to the the Christians at Ephesus he's saying that at that time you were number one without Christ you you didn't have Jesus in your heart you were serving idols and then being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel you were aliens you you were God didn't know you and you didn't know him because you were not part of his covenant people so that that's why you were aliens and then he says you were strangers from the covenants again you you you didn't have a covenant with him so you wouldn't know what the covenant was because you didn't have one with God because God didn't make one right with you and then you had no hope you had no hope you had no hope and you didn't have God in the world so there was no hope for you outside of Christ it's what God is blessing through the apostle Paul to say to the Ephesian Christians you you you didn't have any hope there was there was no way for you but down but now he's going to talk about the opposite let's read that Roy 14 I mean excuse me 13 yeah I'll repeat 13 but now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ see Roy again when you're far away that means you're unknown you you're not seen you're not part of you know you can't become part of a family but now through Jesus Christ's blood he has taken away this partiality thinking this stereotypical thinking taking that away and now Jews and Gentiles you are one in Jesus Christ so that could be translated Jews and Gentiles as amen today we could be translated as black white it could be translated as Asian Hispanic exactly you know so so if you are in Christ you're the same that's right and we are we are all under one blood and that blood is the blood of Jesus Christ the blood that saved you and I have now put us into his body because without that we're hopeless helpless and we're lost you know Larry Jackson says that I just happen to be a spirit that resides in a black man's body exactly he said Roy you just happen to be a spirit that resides in a white man's body exactly exactly we are we are spirit that's it for he himself is our peace who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier the dividing wall now listen to this folks the dividing wall of hostility see see that the the scripture is pointing exactly to what's happening today and here God blessing to the Apostle Paul writing to the Ephesians this happened years and years and years ago but the same thing is happening today we are putting walls up between us to divide us and especially in the body of Christ if you're born again by the blood of Jesus Christ from the power of God from up above you and I are brother and sister in Christ this is why Roy and I we can come on and say here's a black guy talking here's a white man and not be offended with each other because see we understand where we are positioned in Jesus Christ and that's side by side absolutely absolutely so so take that verse underline that verse highlight that verse because that's a key verse all right Roy verse 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations his purpose was to create in himself one new one new humanity out of the two thus making peace no more Jew and Gentile no more these are commandments and laws for you Jews and and the Gentiles you know they don't have anything because of the blood of Jesus Christ he brought us together together what does together mean unity one body one body we are unified because of what Jesus Christ done don't let yourself be put out of your thinking by allowing social issues the hot topic of the day to bring you out of who you're representing in Jesus Christ and that's a kingdom man yeah and exactly kingdom man kingdom woman that's uh and when you do that you're actually allowing yourself to be pulled out of fellowship absolutely if you're out of fellowship with your brother who else are you out of fellowship with well when you're out of fellowship again you open up the avenue for the enemy to come in and that's right and start planting some of these thoughts that's right 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them look at that to reconcile both both of them to God through the cross by which he put death to death their hostility and this is how we're unified we are unified by the cross through the blood so will if he's putting the hostility basically to death right which means he's abolishing the hostility and we still have hostility towards our brother and then what that means Roy is we're not thinking biblically right because we have to understand that all of the hostility that's between us regardless of how it initiated or what ancestors have done in years gone by we understand that these things exist but again if we make it the conversation of every topic we talk about and it ultimately ends in this then your mind and your heart cannot be fixed and have that mind as you find as Ephesians 2 5 says having the mind of Jesus Christ you can't have that mind and the mind of the world as well because he has taken us from thinking that way and brought us into a new way of thinking a new way of walking and a new way of talking walking and talking hey that sounds familiar so does a person have peace that's that's in the middle of all this oh absolutely you have to have peace because see I've been in situations to where people have seen have been all just chaos all around them and then they look at certain people in the crowd and they may say how can you be so calm when all of this is going around you and and see I've seen people like that when they were marching there were people marching calm how could you be like this you got to have some peace you got to be and and I even saw people Roy who were just eating outside and as the marchers were going by they wanted them to partake in what they were doing and when the people who were eating outside in the restaurant failed to do so now they became the enemy I saw that happen last year and again it hurt me to my heart yeah I saw someone screaming at folks sitting there that were just trying to mind their own business and eat dinner yeah and then they were getting attacked by the mobs exactly exactly 17 he came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near see that that's us we were we're gentiles far away far away from god we were alienated from the promise we didn't have any hope we were lost and undone we didn't have any covenant with god but now through the cross through the blood we have that covenant and see that's the beauty behind this he says he came and preached peace yes so if he preached peace to us gentiles and today then we have to carry the message of peace forward and you can't carry the message of peace when you're thinking hostile when you're acting hostile or you're bringing up all within your conversation is ending within some type of of racial discussion you're not at peace that's not edifying speech either no it's for you or for the other person for night 18 for through him we both have access to the father by one spirit and see again that's that the access is now as gentiles we being born again because ephesians in that same chapter i think it's ephesians uh let's see ephesians uh four starting at verse four but god who is rich in mercy because his great love with which he loved us even when we were dead in trespasses made us alive together with christ by grace you have been saved and raised us up together and made us to sit in heavenly places in christ jesus amen we already we already got a seat we already got a seat yes we do folks we're going to leave verse 19 for you to read and study on but remember one body one body no colors no colors no races no anything that's right you're all one body under the blood amen and love on your neighbor don't forget that and get peace in your life hey while we've got you we want to invite you to a couple things coming up here in the next few months we've got author journalist former attorney lee strobel who wrote the case for christ coming to join us february 4th and 5th at 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