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This Gives Perspective and Meaning to the Moment

Hope for the Caregiver / Peter Rosenberger
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October 7, 2021 2:30 am

This Gives Perspective and Meaning to the Moment

Hope for the Caregiver / Peter Rosenberger

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October 7, 2021 2:30 am

In the day to day struggles of caregiving, we often find ourselves yearning to "get out of the moment." Yet, this phrase from a friend helped me stay present - even when the present is uncomfortable. 

I referenced several songs I wrote in this episode from our broadcast - you can learn more about them here: 

Hope for the Caregiver
Peter Rosenberger
Hope for the Caregiver
Peter Rosenberger
Hope for the Caregiver
Peter Rosenberger
Hope for the Caregiver
Peter Rosenberger
Hope for the Caregiver
Peter Rosenberger
Hope for the Caregiver
Peter Rosenberger

American family radio, this is Rosenberger in this is the show for it is a family caregiver you know what's going on with you.

888-589-8840 888-589-8840 part of the show we love to have you with this. There more than 65 million Americans right now serving as a family caregiver aging love one special-needs child somebody with mental illness. Somebody with trauma somebody with an addiction or alcoholism issue there somebody different kinds of impairments there's always a caregiver, and that may be you and if you are that person when you're in the right place were glad you with is how you help the caregiver. What does it look like what goes on in the hearts and minds of caregivers.

This is what we talk about on this show and I bring 35+ years now of doing that very thing for wife with severe medical issues and disabilities, and I've learned a few things along the way. Most of it the hard way of how to navigate through this without losing too much of your mind. I will say that I had lost without losing too much of your and also I noticed that it doesn't stop at a cemetery. The trauma for caregivers. The challenges for caregivers.

It doesn't stop when the caregiving journey is over when your loved one passes away, and I have talked to some people about the data I haven't experienced that person is and still care for my wife.

She still with me, but I but I've talked to a lot of folks who are still struggling long after the funeral and I member one lady called in at one of the first focus ever got and she said her husband, the anniversary of her husband's death was coming up and and and she didn't really come to know what to do don't know. I'm sorry it was Valentine's Day was coming up and she has been married for years and decades. She took care of them with Alzheimer's. In the last several years in she was struggling mightily and in didn't really know what to do on Valentine's Day and/stress at what was his favorite meal she said was spaghetti and I so how about making some spaghetti and maybe inviting Simpson people over to have spaghetti with and celebrate the love that you two had and you can just hear her visibly perk up and she said you know that's a great idea. I think I'm gonna do that and and she did and it was a meaningful time for and in France they celebrated that life and I think sometimes we as caregivers fail to celebrate the love, particular those of us who are spouses doing this with a with a husband or wife and and we sometimes get so caught up in the challenges of being a caregiver, and the hardship in the drama and all that Stuff that we failed to celebrate the beauty and the love and what brought you together. What brought you to get. I like to hear from you will will get torso in a minute here but what what brought you to your love. What if you're taking care of spouse how to meet what what what precipitated this love that has endured so much.

How did you meet and let's celebrate that a little bit today. I'll tell you one of the non-recommended pickup lines that that that I've used with my wife.

You could eat the rest of that sandwich you. I don't recommend that I'd never argue with the results, but out of duck creek that you ever approached a young lady. We were in college will emit legally threats that say what you got understand. I came from a large family a very large I have four brothers and sister, my sisters, the baby, but don't let that fool you shall scrap with the best of and and administered out of South Carolina and you we have let you have sometimes your you reported no we were certain of it and and and it work. We were Army brats, Salvation Army, and you know that the concept of of wasted food was was just alien to me in and I were taking Gracie home for our first dinner the first time meeting my family and were sitting around the dining room table and she puts just the Gracie came from two girls just just two girls and they were four years apart, so her house was a lot quieter than mine and were sitting on the table which I'm fairly accustomed to doing.

It's of its of beating Phrygia by house and Gracie just puts a little bit of food on her plate in a civil baby don't you want more than that. She said oh I get it when it comes back around and I looked interested may baby a coming back around my brother Jimmy's at the cleanup at the end of the text as it is a common background, you better get it now and insight have the concept of word leftovers until we got married in and that was an alien concept to me.

I member when I was in high school. Josie that movie radio was that movie radio Cuba Gooding Junior started to tell his fellow that the high school adopt what I was my high school and I knew ready. All my brothers and my sister and I went 11th grade with radio because he was perpetually in 11th grade I think around the cafeteria and want to take food off your plate. This was long before his story became famous and became such an inspirational figure and he's covered up to be legally tetchy big white boy and I suggest radio I'm going to Steve groundhog you know I care he's going to end up becoming a major motion picture and a statue of the tell form. I was hungry and so I that was my life. It was thought that you want to have the lights went out. The power went out and I think of we were soon on the table and the things Jimmy did the student but it was I got stabbed in the hand reaching for pork chop of the dark so it was, you know that was my life and and I introduced my wife to that. We had a lot of fun with it and in she she adapted indices learn to be loud and boisterous with the rest of us, but it was so funny watching her with that. This is very she had been a white glove party mentors for the thing and then smashed into a pack of wolves and so and then that's in those the those the kind of things that I think about of this love that we've had that this journey that we been on now for over 35 years. That is been fraught with heartache and in painful things, and in and sadness and am suffering and trauma.

If you don't have the anchoring of love in that. How are you doing this house is working for you and and so that's something I'd like for you to share with us today if you want to. If you feel comfortable that 888-589-8840.

How did you meet your husband, your wife some of you are taking care of very difficult that you're involved in in very difficult circumstances and how do you sustain yourself in that ideal is it okay for you to laugh. I find that it is okay to laugh on my Gracie laugh all the time.

We deal with all kinds of crazy stuff in our life but if you don't have a sense of humor about this and there's some people that get offended under when I was doing the you might be caregiver if thing with Jeff Foxworthy he that did this some years ago and when we launch this member. One person was like it was involved with companies like you think you should take this so frivolously and then they looked at my resume as a caregiver to his will baby you okay will you and they can slink off a little bit because I think you have every permission to laugh.

There is this Ecclesiastes says there's a time to laugh.

There's a time to cry. Now what about you what about you, is there a time for you to laugh as her time for you to cry. Is there a time for you to participate in the joy of a love that is allowing you the strength to keep doing what you do. If so, share with us will do our saw him and I got the break here, but got a song I think you like a lot of know it is a great story as well. This is hope for the caregiver dispute arose whether this is the show for you as a family can so glad you with his 888-589-8840 right now I guarantee you this is glad to have with this link, joining the show. 888-589-8840 885 89 88 so were talking today about how you talk to so many spouses who are caring for their loved one and they been married for years and I think sometimes it's easy to get pulled into the a difficult vortex of being so lost in the caregiving that we forget the this great love that brought you together side Jimmy and if you want to share that with us 888-589-8040. I'm going to go with her someday.

I love the song.

It's a song that you can I will just go with the course because I think you get it so easily, but it's a great solicitous on the Gracie things quite a bit when she's really struggling and I'll hear her do this of her hospitals and so forth are just thing her voice echoes down the hall and it is is a simple course and there's a great story behind this of the woman who wrote the lyrics so step of the caregiver keyboard here and see if you know the song you know that song is really easy to course is really sick but it is such a great song when you can't really focus your mind, and a lot of other things that you know that it's 888-589-8840 888-589-8840 and the reason I wanted to do that because they were there are times we go through his characters where he gets it gets so heavy force and we forget that there is something greater. Share this quote a couple weeks ago and it's worth repeating a fundamental business.

We live in the moment, but we have the perspective of eternity which gives meaning to the moment was at me. Often times, as caregivers were living in fear of what's coming down the pike. We know it's coming. For the most part and we live in fear about but if we are present right here right now knowing that eternity is settled for us in Christ.

The net gives meaning to the present moment that were in that we can be free to not freak out about this and that's that's our journey as caregivers. This is this is what we are challenged to do because otherwise what were going to do was work and live in this this terrible regret of the past or this terrible fear of the future and working on Miss right where we are to be present right here and how do we know that we can do this when that's where faith comes in. This is what Scripture teaches this with the song is about. I spent a lifetime doing this, of of struggling with trying to get out of the moment and I spent a lifetime trying to to demand that God free me from this free Gracie from this and all. All I did was just make myself miserable and and and Gracie as well and when I learn to just be here and and I think the phrase that I have for this year it is that were not. Because I'm I'm learning to train myself to to not freak out about decisions we all have to make at this point were not. And I'm trusting along the journey were not there yet. So we've got this surgery coming up with Gracie on top of this broken leg that she's struggling with, which is healing and she's about what we do what we were not. How might you, are you struggling with that author of this song that the lady wrote the lyrics for this. She she felt called and she was born. I think she was born in the UK but she came to America and she was at Urbana and I think Ohio and really felt called to the mission field, but she had frail health, health and but but ended up actually being a missionary, but she wanted to go to China believe that she couldn't go and she got married to fellow and then he he drowned while trying to save a boy I think New York that was in the water and he try to get in there to help them in and drowned, and in it was you know she's had some surreal triceps unit on the mission field.

She remarried and think she ended up going to what was used to be called Rhodesia that I think is a bubbly meal and that's where I think she is passing away, but she she was this amazing song.

This amazing lyric that has sustained so many of us for a lifetime.

And it helps give meaning to the moment you were free to just be present in the moment and in I wrote the song some years ago, CD is called. I can only hold you now in and out and lyric goes, you know, I see where we harness the all that you are. When I look at Gracie RC 35 years of Gracie. That's the best, the lead, the mystery of marriage is that you you can you can see a lifetime together and and I and I celebrate these things and I and I enjoyed a laugh and we have the shared experiences of of all this you know journey that we've had and so I want to to honor that and not live in this sense of regret not live in the sense of fear. I'm done that it's exhausting.

It's exhausting is truly exhausting to do that and so that's why the songs assessing in play here for you. That's why introduce them to you because it helps remind me just being here in that can celebrate her in the moment. Even with all the things that we deal with it. It's it's our faith and our perspective of eternity that helps us do that. So I thought that might be helpful.

List go to. I think this is David in Tennessee, but I can't log on some cereal Millett you just hit it for me because I can't for some reason, my software is giving me fits here. If you kvetch of the David you with us. Well, we can get today would run this program to change some computer setting so I'll get David after the break. If you hang on their and this song that I will be here for you just in case you didn't hear it so Lisa Sneed Stansted loses this is David with us and he was there. Your name how you do it was so you will close you and you will take another stab at it.

Well at your club exactly what it sounded like made Willis Jesus Jesus, how I trust him. How proved him over and over Jesus. Jesus, precious Jesus lied a lot more out of here. Well it it still is great. It's a great him just so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take him at his word just to rest upon his promise just to know thus saith the Lord, and that's the whole point of that song is to anchor us in. We can trust in Jesus, Jesus, how I trusted how I proved them over and over Jesus. Jesus, precious Jesus 04 Grace to trust him more. And as a caregiver. Do we trust him in this.

Do we trust is scared and and and why. Why do we trust David what he trust when you look at all I here I am four year old when he rated Jeremy Arkwright. Indeed, in that's what is this how I proved them over and over. This did not and I share with you the heartache that this woman had.

Thank you very much for the call David appreciate it very much and I shared with the meat as a share with how she wrote this. You know this is a woman who watched her husband drowned as he was trying to save a little boy who was dripping and then she wrote this letter. Jesus. Jesus, how I trust how I proved them over so it takes on new meaning when you hear the stories behind these hymns of the faith that that helped write these lyrics that we depend on so when your loved one is looking out the window listlessly they don't recognize you anymore. Can you sing this when they're crying out in pain. Can you sing this. This is what gracious things when she's in a lot of pain and I've heard her many times over, but should change the last line and shall say over Gracie trusted more. We have the perspective of eternity and that's what gives meaning to the moment. These are painful things that we deal with scared and that's why I push so hard to be able to help celebrate and get our eyes lifted a little bit.

Otherwise, it will take Steve Rosenberger.

This is the show for you as a family caregiver 888-589-8840 880-589-8840 will caregiver the speed Rosenberger. This is the show for you as a family caregiver and that song by Keith Green is the whole point of all of this you put this love in our hearts and as long as we understand the source of our love gives us the freedom then to lavishly extend that as caregivers is hopeless. But if were trying to draw on this from ourselves.

It's only a matter of time before were done where it just depletes and I know this and we when we when we tap into the inexhaustible of God through what is done through Christ, then it frees us up to be able to extend this to others as pulses and printers. We comfort one another with the same comfort that we ourselves have received from the God of all comfort. The God of all comfort is the source, not you.

So if you're in the throes of this right now as a caregiver and you feel completely drained. There's a reason for that. There's a reason for the and that reason come stems from us trying to white knuckle it and do it on our own strength and we can't it's only a matter of time before we fail just fizzle out.

You cannot hold your breath that long goodbye to what they say on airlines you put your mask on first. I call it the Delta doctors flat on Delta Monday they said but your mask on first well this is pretty good for caregivers but if you notice they say this on every flight, every airline associated entity says this every time the FAA, the flight attendants union the pilots. Everybody says put your mask on first before trying to help someone else. Okay, we got that. That's obvious.

But now my question to you is why they have to remind us of this. Every single time because it's counterintuitive. If you notice something across the board here with with what's going on in our country.

There's this there's this constant push from certain segments of our society that were evolving as people that were getting better as people were becoming better people were becoming know our characters, improving, and so forth and I don't really I don't subscribe that all was. I don't think we could. We come that fall it's character. I think we've learned how to sin more efficiently, but not new sin. Milligrams of that years ago.

We have invented anything since his people were not necessarily evolving in our character and we we still did with the same problems and that applies much across the board. Human nature is just what it is and it's counterintuitive for us to put our mask on first. We rushed things and that's part of that's wired into us you know is is human beings we we we made in the image of God.

Even though sin is tainted. All of this was the main in the image of God and God rushes into burning think that's what he did for us. Remember the argument with anthropologist Margaret Mead's. They asked her what evidence she saw of civilization are so forth and she saw but she was an interracial riser they were looking for like pots and collate ghetto clay pots and stuff like that and she said no. I found bones where a person had broken her leg and the bone had been set and that's when I realize that you that that people were caring for one another and that's the mark of civilization and and I get I get that that's what we do is caregivers were doing this but we we have things in us that are just counterintuitive to to what were being told her what what the with the obvious thing is and that's where this whole put on your mask first. And so it also thought about that I thought will okay there have to remind me of this all the time where they have to remind me why can you figure this out. That's a question for another day. But I took I took it seriously, what is it look like to put on my mask first with Gracie.

I know what that looks like the thought will we think about that. How do I see to my own safety so that I can better help her with first off, I better help her when I'm safer when I'm healthier when I'm strong but I'm able to brief because I was holding my breath try to help her and you can't hold your breath that you go to blackout. I know you cannot do it so I had to accept the wisdom of others and trust that they knew what they were doing the collective wisdom of every person associated with the airline industry said this to be and I had to trust as caregivers who will trust and that's what it is to so sweet to trust in Jesus, how I've proved over and over just to take him at his word that once we realize oh okay this is the path were going to go on I go to trustee with this. What is it look like to trust your love one to Jesus and Fred once gave me a great piece of advice he said to me once Peter she has a Savior you're not that Savior she has a Savior. Not that Savior.

I thought about that a lot to tell myself I am a fellow caregivers look down at your hands up you'll see nail prints.

This is it yours to fix.

We have a different role to play in if we have a different role to play in this. What is it and were stewards. We don't own it. I didn't do this to Gracie. I can't undo it your loved one maybe has a disease that you have no control over and you can't undo this so what you wrote were stewards, not owners to so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take him at his word just to rest upon his promise.

Just a note this, I have found in my life that when it gets normally and I think this is all up to me, that is the time for me to be still standstill because it cannot be all up to me and it cannot be on you if we discount the work of God in our situation if we somehow try to exercise a level of control that there's not possible for us it's only a matter of time before we cause more damage there will be sadness in this journey there will be sorrow and is a wrote them a song. I know there will be sorrow will face that somehow my hands can't hold tomorrow.

I can only hold you now we live in the moment and we trust because we have the perspective of eternity and that frees us up to be in the moment. And sometimes that moment requires us to cry, to mourn, but how in the world are we going to be comforted are morning is Jesus said blessed are those who mourn for they shall be comforted. How do we get comforted if were so busy ranging out or despairing out if were flailing around how we experience comfort if were demanding that God fix it. Sometimes we have to look at it and mourn the Scriptures as we don't grieve as those who have no hope, and that's what I want to introduce things to you throughout this program and throughout the year when we talk about these things of of celebrating things that have beauty and enjoy it.

How you met, what drew you to gather what joy do you find together what joy do you hang on to. In those dark moments. These are things that are important to us as caregivers because they're sustaining things in the dark and lonely moments I was talking to someone this week.

Going through this very thing of losing their spouse says she's fading away and I re-anchored them in the truth that I knew because Iknow she's moving to Jesus. They took a deep breath you write.

We mourn the part of morning is looking at it honestly, and if you look at it honestly, you see the sorrow you see the pain you see the suffering to see the heartache, but you also see the beauty and the joy it's there, it just me, need a little bit help to see it. Sometimes there's a song I wrote years ago for Gracie as she inspired me to write it and I was watching she was out with her son when he was just a little boy and she was outside with him in this is before she lost her her first lick and she said this line to me. She said sometimes the pain each day conferring clouds the joints.

There she was trying to stand on a damage leg onto damage legs while watching her son play was so painful. But she was trying to to push through that to see our son and enjoy him as a toddler. Sometimes the pain each day can bring clouds the joy that's there and moments like that.

We don't want platitudes. We don't want somebody to come as is going to be okay or so to be. This is can be that sometimes we just somebody say I know and I know this is painful but here's the perspective of eternity that gives meaning to the moment. This is how I do may not work for you, but this is how I may not want to. This is how I this is how I've done it for a lifetime to live right here in this moment with 888-589-8840 888-589-8043 will be a part of so have you ever struggled to trust God when lousy things happen to you. I'm Gracie Rosenberger in 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident leading 80 surgeries in both legs and became I questioned why God allowed something so brittle to happen to me. But over time the questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing with help more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis.

We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in Tennessee prison.

We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All of this is to point others to Christ.

The source of my help and strength, please visit standing with to learn more and participate in lifting others that standing I'm Gracie. I am staining with help, I'm Peter Rosenberger and this is your caregiver minute in the caregiving journey we daily encounter.

High drama moments. I can really wear honest, some of those drama moments may be from our loved one.

Others might be from friends and family medical community and sometimes as high drama moments come internally as we mentally slap ourselves around over things we wish we had done better, or which we not done it all in order to eliminate all of those moments, but we can reduce them by asking one simple question how important is this just a question we ask, how important is this it gives us and others an opportunity to prioritize and even detach from the circumstances so we can determine is this really a crisis or maybe this is something we can just let go.

How important is it for us to be, caregivers, and we can answer that one right now together. It's vitally important.

This is been your caregiver minute with Peter Rosenberger brought to you by standing with hope there's more information that standing with I hope to carry caregiver this clicking speaks what was about to hope for the caregiver.

This is Peter Rosenberger were glad to have you with us. Eight 885-8988 you part of the show, Sheridan, Texas Sherry good morning how you feeling, Sharon there your hello I how you feeling, Sharon will hit our way to look forward to hearing your program on Saturday morning and I'm been quiet while Anna got a call today and tell Peter around bearing how much I appreciate his mastery and his show and that help in the current fitting me and went really really stand, that my husband's birthday was October 17. He passed away just a week after his birthday and it scale. I feel like every year I'm making more and it hurts more to remember that many of us and I we I think we all hurt with you.

I think I can speak to the audience with her with you and that pain is a week that that will not go away. Some things are just not good to be cured this side of heaven. What are you doing out over 70 well I heard you talking about talking to previous hurt Craig to shout about spellbinding birthday fixing dinner when it fading. I think maybe that Amoco bandanna. I have wonderful children and they are great the court to name that had just been conned for lack nobody feels my pain bucking member and I think it what was his favorite meal when chickened out on the right mind doesn't know you don't like to get governments and it was always that good joy for me to fix it for him now back down. I don't think that Mandy can take not here. What about what movie did he enjoy no theory more than movie and he nabbed a program called 24 will I would say I would recommend watching that. But I do know that I could do that myself. You know that that was a that would be too much of a commitment I think to try to watch a whole series. Watch one program every noun in remember announcing it was it was what did you guys meet well I went thanking his brother, though the plot thickens here that we had a mutual friend in an she needed it. I would looking for the perfect guy and noun in and he will not committed to anyone at that time and so she thought she just put it together and I mean that with comment brother and his brother had merit and relationship with the lighting and for whatever reason they broke up and bailed bowing and after we got midnight, we want you a lot. Get back with her.

It was looking online and fell asleep together and directed history only just found it hard for each other and we were married 47 years when he passed away and something this time eating habits.

There is nothing like a heart patient any and that he was real diligent about following fairly advanced heart checkup every year and knowing you can have that problem though.

We caught it early and we get the land for each other in court exactly been married, lack three years. While I met the Lord our precious mom and that the matter to me and year later he finally joined me, attending church, and you get saved and then a year after that he's doing it to the ministry and rest in our lively. After breakfast I ran the Lord, preaching and I played the piano and link it had a joyful laugh passing small turkey will assume that you played the him that I played this morning. Is that correct yeah recommend that that way you can start you still play the piano played mostly just for my entertainment and that there have been times that I play anything I play from Alan felt when I thing I'm really not a day that Anna that I have had to act like our different opportunities in the church that not only will it give you two assignments that I how can you be two assignments I want you to go and play this him later on today at your convenience that we talked about this morning just played a little slower because often times people will try to know the play that play slow okay just been okay and you get the release of the scorched. If you love those some of those half-dollar cords are the think they throw me out of some churches complain but play that song little slower and sing along with it.

Jesus tasks have a trusted and then there's another him. Well, there's another him like for you to play and looking for my handle here. Where's my hip is another him a much I want to play a love that will not let me go you know that one, I have parity I have never played it go lively again. Oh, love old love that will not let me go and go and just you get.

You have a him a lesson and see how would a bed stuff I've collected some great hymns from a lot of churches over the years but don't tell anybody that exit. It's it's in the hymnal in and sanctified hymnals.

Just kidding, but go and look look for that when a love that will not let me go and I think that you will find that this hymn will mean something to you.

I rest my weary soul and the I give the back. The life I/O that in the ocean depths its flow may richer bullet the old love that will not let me go and just slowly let the lyrics just let them let bask of you that there is one verse on their own joy that see kissed me through pain. I cannot close my heart to the I trace the rainbow through the rain and feel the promise is not fain that mourn shield Peerless be and is just recognizing that right now there are there are tears in October 17 you know there's only tears that day. Sharon you know this but that there is that promise.

It's not in vain that that mourn that weight sis MO are in that morning shall Peerless be in the meantime we we cry and we weep and we mourn over but we trust in that process, and there are so many individuals listen the show right now who are unsure what to do with this sorrow and this grief and this is where we anchor one another with this and we say old love that will not let me go to is so sweet to trust in Jesus, how I've proven over and over. You have 47 years with this man and you proved him over and over in a marriage that lasted 47 years were you. You will minister to knows how many people and you proved and so in those moments when it gets bleak and lonely. God gave you a tremendous gift of being able to go to the piano go to the care play it slowly display it slowly okay okay slow down and however slow you think you're playing it slow it down even more. Okay, it's like it's like it. It's like a soaker hose. You know the ever water your garden with a soaker hose yeah well that's what that's what these hymns can do for us and all too often we use it like a fire hose and that's just not cool. We don't want to go to so sweet to trust in Jesus, no, let it soak into your spirit. Okay, from 1 PM one church piano player to another. Take a leap of faith that will mean something to you and you know what, on October 17. I'll be playing that song for you myself. Okay Sharon, you are to be as well.

Thank you so much for sharing a great love that you and your husband is Peter Rosenberg Hope the caregiver hope the will see you next. Some of you know the remarkable story of Peter's wife Gracie and recently Peter talk to Gracie about all the wonderful things that have emerged from her difficult journey. Take a listen Gracie. When you envision doing a prosthetic limb outreach. Did you ever think the inmates would help you do that, not in a million years. When you go to the facility run by core civic and you see the faces of these inmates that are working on prosthetic limbs that you helped collect from all of the country that you put out the plea for and their disassembly sell these legs like what you have your own prosody and arms and orange everything when you see all this makes me cry because I see the smiles on their faces and I know I know what it is like someplace where you can't get out without somebody else allowing you to get out the hospital. These men are so glad that they get to be doing is one thing said something good with my did you know before you became an amputated parts of prosthetic limbs could be recycled now had no idea I thought Peg leg. I thought a wooden legs. I never thought of titanium and carbon legs and flexibly the legs and all that. I never thought about.

As you watch these inmates participate in something like this, knowing that there there helping other people all providing the means for the supplies to get over there. What does it do to you.

Just on the heart level.

I wish I could explain to the world.

What I see in here and I wish that I can be able to come and say the this guy right here in East Africa with that. I never not feel that way out every time you know you always make me believe. I don't want to leave.

I feel like I'm at home with them and I feel like we have a common bond that would never expected that only God could put together. Now that you've had experience with it what you think of faith-based programs.

The core civic offers. I think there is absolutely awesome and I think every prisoner out there for half faith-based programs because he return right of the men that are involved in this particular faith-based program and other ones like it, but I know that this one car is an amazingly low rate here is that that is with me just has something to do with God is broken help people want to donate use prosthetic limbs, whether from a loved one who passed away or you somebody well-groomed you donated some of your own for the habit out of the please go to standing gain. We say what would you do if you are a new Christian and you didn't have a Bible. Michael will work my way from Bible, the international you probably say well and hop in my car and go to Christian bookstore or have one shipped to me.

What if those weren't options, say with. I'm new to the faith. I mean I need to know what it means to grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus, you know, you would pray that someone, anyone would bring you a Bible. That's exactly the way it is for literally aliens are Christians around the world are part of our spiritual family there new to the faith they want to know what it means to grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus but God has them planning were it's very difficult to access a Bible and that's why the Truth Network and Bible league of teamed up to sing God's word to 3500 Bible as believers around the globe.

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