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All you gotta do is dial 877-207-2276 and we can talk. It's not a big deal. Okay. Now, there we go. Adjusting the video on YouTube. Actually, it's StreamYard.

And that reminds me of tomorrow. I don't know if you guys are interested in this. There's a network that does TV. A Trinity channel.

It's ABN. Matt TV. Aramaic Broadcasting Network. They reach out to the Muslim community.

And I've been in touch with them or working with them for a few years now. And we're going to have a thing on Trinity Channel. The Trinity Channel. I think it's trinitychannel.com. Oh, there we go. Now it went live. Okay. So, the Trinity Channel tomorrow I'll be on twice hosting some gentlemen. At 3 o'clock Eastern Time and then again at 8 o'clock Eastern Time.

And be discussing atheism on one show and Muhammad and stuff on the other. Where? That's funny.

Where'd my phone go? You guys heard? Oh, there it is.

And so, I'll be hosting that with some, with Greg Kochel's line name I remember and then Tony Costa will be on and I'll be discussing some stuff so I'll be hosting it. Which means I don't have to come up with all the answers. That's nice. No big deal. But hey, if you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. And oh, there's no audio. Okay, I've got to fix that right now.

Thanks for reminding me. And I'll get to that. Yeah, I've got all these things to do.

Sometimes I forget to do a couple of them when I'm getting ready for the show like today because last minute charge there. Okay. Now you should be able to hear. In five seconds or so on the YouTube. YouTube and Facebook. You can watch on Facebook. You can watch on YouTube if you want. Just go to carm.org.

C-A-R-M dot O-R-G on the right hand side. You'll see the links now. Just remembered something. We're sending out newsletters for the end of the year. We're also doing a matching funds drive. We have three or four people, just depending, that we could maybe do an interview with for the newsletter. A little paragraph or two. Something like that. What we're looking for is someone who or anybody who has benefited from CARM. You know, if there's a great story. And what you could do is just email us at info at carm dot org.

That's info at carm dot org. And you could say, yeah, hey, you know, it's my name. This is what happened. Give us a little paragraph. We'll contact you. Might not. Because we only have so many. I think there's a lot of people who might contact us. But we're going to leave it up to the newsletter people to figure that one out. Because I'm working on getting the site ready for release. Hopefully just before the end of the year.

That's what we're hoping. And we're working a lot on that. And it's really kind of frustrating because there's so many issues I need to delve into. Social justice issues and things like that. And start writing and teaching on them. Plus some heresies out there.

You know, the same old stuff. And two people have sent me shirts. So much heresy, so little time. Thanks, Terry. And I forget the other person.

I'm bad with names. And I got to wash them because I'm sensitive. Yeah, I got to wash them. And then I wear them. And then after washing clothes, my wife just shakes her head and squints her eyes when I tell her. I just throw everything, everything, into one big mound. I will take reds out. That's the only thing I'll do. And I put it into a big mound of clothes and shove it right into the washer.

Put it maximum load volume. And then everything's on cold. And then wash it, right? When it's done, I just take it and put it in the dryer. And put it on nuke.

And plasma phase. And whatever survives, that's what I wear. That's how I do my laundry. It's called wash and nuke. And I'll tell you, it's great.

Because you lose 80% of your clothing within three days. But hey, whatever survives, you got it for a lifetime. It's a good policy.

I like it. My wife just says, do not wash my clothes. Okay, honey. You sure you want me to wash something?

Get away from that? That's how it works at our house. All right. Hey, Two Open Lines, if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. And one last thing before we get to the callers, we're doing an end-of-year matching funds drive. If you want to support the ministry, all you have to do is go to CARM.org, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G on the right-hand side. You will see stuff for supporting financial support. Click on the computer, the online financial thing, whatever it is.

And you'll be taken to the page and you can support. If you do, if you put in 40, it'll be matched to another 40 automatically. If you put in 10, it'll be matched to another 10 automatically. And if you sign up for like say $5 or $10 or $15, $20, $5 monthly, whatever you sign up for will be added in total for the next year total. And that total will be matched. How about that?

So if you say, I don't have $25, and you just do $5 a month, well, 5 times 12 to 60, that would be another 60 added on. Isn't that cool? All right. Let's just jump on the phone. Let's get to Michael from California. Michael, you are on the air.

Hello, Matt. I have seen you for years online. I've never heard your show before, but I just have been dealing with a lot of QAnon stuff. And I wanted to, are you familiar with their doctrines or whatever? I've heard the name a little bit. It has to do with right wing conspiracy stuff.

That's what I know about it. I'm telling you, you don't understand how big this thing is and how it's changing people. It's pulling so many of my friends around me are pulled into this. And basically, the conspiracy is that there are a ring of satanic child molesters. And it can encompass every conspiracy theory like George Bush knew that the Twin Towers were going to fall. Basically, all the evil in the world is going to be solved through Donald Trump.

And there's this guy named Q who's putting breadcrumbs on the internet and people listen to these things. Yeah, I've heard a little bit about this. And even though I enjoy conspiracy theories, this one seems so far-fetched that I just can't put much credence in it. I'm looking at some of the information on it. It's a far-right conspiracy theory. There's some things I'm familiar with that I don't want to mention over the air about some infiltrations in politics and in Hollywood. But I don't know to what extent they're going into. And a lot of it's run out of the East Coast. A lot of people don't know that.

And there's some other groups involved. But I don't have the documentation to prove anything. It's just been stuff from the 80s that I knew about before stuff became popular and the internet even existed. I'd had some information from the 80s.

I forgot where and how I got it. And so it's in my head and I'm, you know, oh, that's right. That was like that. That was this.

This was that. But I don't know. I just don't know about this. Now George Soros is in it and he's bad. He's bad.

He's horrible. So anyway, don't have to tell you about it. All right. That's all I know. Oh, my goodness.

Well, I hope that you can. You can't believe how powerful it is that it is pulling families apart. And, you know, it's the strangest thing. There's another conspiracy theory that is connected to it that says the government is going to forgive all credit card debt. And so it's just it's it's like a snowball on the top of the hill that gathers up every other conspiracy theory that existed before.

Do you believe it? Oh, no, no, no. But I have friends. Oh, I'm friends with you.

OK. Well, well, why are they you know, why are you losing this friends? Well, it's because, like my wife's mom, you know, every day she just sits on the computer and with the you know, she doesn't have interaction with anybody. She was a converted Mormon as a result of the ministry. So what you're saying is that that is that they're just giving themselves over to it, so to speak, and believing everything about it and and then judging everything by it. That's a lot of cults do that. And people think, you know, that cults are the only place where you have this kind of it's called snapping, where they give themselves over to something. They have a psychological alteration where they just believe it. And it occurs in Mormonism, particularly with the praying. But the Book of Mormon occurs in Jehovah's Witnesses with their true organization. It occurs with conspiracy theories and things like that.

People who believe stuff. So it happened with my wife when she realized she loved me. And afterwards, she kind of came to you. But it was too late.

We already married. But that's another story. This guy has a leader, though.

The leader is this guy. Well, I'll tell you what. We've gone over. I don't want to go over it anymore, really. But, you know, it's something I need to look into a little bit, but I just don't know how to document it and I just don't know. But it's interesting. Okay. But I'm going to look online or, you know, after you have, you know, done a little bit of research on it. And that thing that you were alluding to, there was something that you were alluding to that you couldn't say over the air.

If you could put that online or email me or something like that. No, I'm not going to. But I do appreciate all this. But, yeah. Thank you, though. You're really awesome and solid. You're the last guy left, apologetic guy left that I listen to. Well, maybe that's good because I'm just whacked enough.

I don't know who knows. But I do appreciate that. All right, Michael. Thank you very much. All right, man. God bless. God bless. All right.

Well, you know, conspiracy theories. I love them. They're fun. Let's get it. Let's get to Carl from South Carolina. Carl, welcome. You're on the air.

Hi, Matt. I just got a question about hell and the lake of fire. And is hell in the sense of a temporary place and the lake of fire a final place or in the sense of, you know, that the enemy is finally cast off and placed into the lake of fire? But in the sense of souls, are they continuously in hell or I'm under the impression that these are two differently distinct things? Well, I've tried to study the difference. And the lake of fire seems to be the final resting place where death and Hades, you know, they're cast out.

But the lake of fire, sometimes some think it has an allusion to Gehenna. And we're going to break. So hold on. OK. We've got to go through a little bit more. All right, buddy. All right. OK. Hey, folks, if you want to give me a call, eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six. We're right now. It's Matt Slick live, taking a call at eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six. Here's Matt Slick.

All right. Welcome back to the show, everyone. We have two open lines. If you want to give me a call.

Eight, seven, seven, two, zero, seven, two, two, seven, six. Let's get back to Carl from South Carolina. All right, Carl. So, oh, yeah. Hell and Lake of Fire.

OK, I went and did a little bit of research. So I'll just go through two verses. Second Peter, two, four. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell. Now, the Greek word is Tartarus. We'll talk about that a little bit and committed them to pits of darkness reserved for judgment. Tartarus was considered a place that was below the deepest depths of the bad place you could go to.

It was so far beyond bad. And so it says that he did not even spare the angels, but cast them into Tartarus. And so they are judged. And we know from other places that people go to hell. And it seems to be it seems to be that what's going on is it's hell is not the final place because of Revelation 20, 10. And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are also.

And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. So that seems to be the lake of fire is the final place. So we hear about hell, death, Hades, all this being cast in or cast out in outer darkness in the lake of fire. So it seems to be that that's the final place. Hell is the it seems to be the temporary, really bad place.

You don't want to go to, which is itself may even be cast into the lake of fire and then out into outer darkness. OK, well, then does the soul then end and there is nothing left after the casting into the lake of fire? No, that's annihilationism, that's false teaching.

I've written 180 articles on it, literally 180 articles on annihilationism. And so the soul is permanent and it's continuously through that agony and in it. OK, yeah, because if they stopped existing, there's a there's problems with that. Let's say that they suffer in hell for a while and then they stop existing. That means they've been punished sufficiently. Well, why aren't they then saved after there's sufficient punishment? Because the punishment of sin is according to the law, which means that they were punished according to the law, a certain requirement. Well, then after that's done and they get annihilated, why are they annihilated if they paid the penalty for the law requirement? Why are they saved?

You know, it's a question. Another one is I've done research on punishment in the Bible. Punishment is experienced. And in annihilationism, the punishment, some say the punishment is actually non-existence. But how does non-existence relate as a punishment?

Because you don't experience it. It's just nothing. So it's like the state you were in before you were born, which was nothing. Well, was that punishment? No. Well, it's the same thing as after nothingness. Is that punishment? No. So it doesn't make any sense.

A lot of reasons. OK. OK. All right. I appreciate your ministry, Matt. Have a blessed Christmas. You too, man. God bless. Thanks. All right.

All right. That was Carl. Let's get to Jack from Nevada. Hey, Jack, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Mr. Slick, can you hear me? Yes, I can. Yes, I can. All right. Fantastic.

Hopefully it's loud and clear. Yeah, I told you a while back, I had a different question for you this time. It's about just hope in the end time.

Mm hmm. So basically it's kind of like this. You know, I've been kind of paying attention to what's going on in the world. And every time every time the world goes through times like this, I feel kind of silly because it's like. I feel like I foolishly allow my emotional state to be determined by what's going on in the world.

Right. Like I feel like I should. And I can admit that's a weakness of mine. And so I've been pulling myself away from, you know, just current events and, you know, just the news and such. But, you know, it's kind of hard to do because it's always like, hey, what's going on? Like, I want to know about the world around me. And this question is kind of hard to ask because in my circles, I'm always more like stoic, solid one. And I'm always telling everybody, hey, we're going to be fine. Keep it safe, you know, and that that just comes from me knowing that ultimately, no matter what happens on Earth. Like God's got our back and we're going to be fine at the same time.

I know that there are a lot quite a bit at the app world. He comes in and takes us all up. But you know, my point is. It's crazy out there. And so now I'll start to say that again.

So what's your question is like, how do we get through this without going into deep depression? Right. Right.

Yeah. Well, so here's the thing. You know, I've been studying, reading up on a lot of end time stuff. And, you know, when I go through a lot of end time stuff, I know there's definitely signs of the times and such. I mean, I guess what I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm scared.

I do my best to go through my day without letting fear take hold of me. OK, let me help you. OK. I probably know more about this than you do. And the reason I'm saying that is because I get a lot of information from a lot of people, a lot of sources into the Web site. I've taught eschatology. I've seen a lot of things and there's plenty to be worried about.

I could give you information to cause you to lose sleep. OK. There's some stuff there. Now, our hope is not in our circumstances.

We have got to realize something. In fact, I'll be it looks like unless God changes the burden on my heart, it looks like this is what I'll be preaching on this Sunday. I'll be out in Twin Falls, Idaho, and we'll be preaching and on Sunday night.

And so this issue of us being persecuted and what do we do? Well, I'm going to be going to first Peter chapter one and in there it says in this you greatly rejoice, even though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been distressed by various trials so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold, which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. Although that's first Peter one versus six and seven, what he's doing there is he's talking to the people, the Christians who are under distress, because you've got to understand the Roman Empire was hostile to Christianity and hostile to the Jews, except that they let the Jewish nation exist out there in Israel.

And they put a puppet master in there. And there's what's called Caesar Papism, emperor worship. Well, when Jesus rose from the dead and ascended and people started following Christ, not only is that a threat to Caesar Papism, it's also a threat to the leadership and the balance of power to the Sadducees and the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin.

So it's really bad for them. And in an agrarian kind of a society where your reputation is important, where the Romans could come out and just arrest you because these are the kind of situations that they were in. And what is Peter saying in this? You greatly rejoice, even though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been distressed by various trials. Why do we rejoice? It's difficult when we face the idea of going into surgery. It's fearful. We distress when we have to go do something that causes tension.

Maybe it's an interview with a boss and you messed up. There are things like this that cause us distress. However, we'll continue after the break. OK, Jack? So please, hold on. OK, folks, we'll be right back after these messages.

Please be tuned. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. Jack, are you still there? Yes, sir. All right. So I'm talking to you about this. I'm talking about this to me as well. OK, so it's not me just saying something. I understand.

And, you know, you talk about how bad things are. Look, we have a tax on the Web site. We have a tax on the finances.

We have a tax. I've been personally, you know, swatted. I've been followed in cars just a few days ago. So there were tire tracks up to our house in the middle of the night. And, you know, someone got out and then left.

We don't know what's going on. You know, I know what it means. And there's more stories like that. But nevertheless, I know what it means to be under persecution. Not like a lot of people have, like in third world countries, being killed by Muslims and Hindus and things like that.

Here in America, we're pretty stinking comfortable. Even now, I mean, with Biden getting in the leftist guy in the leftist media and what's going to happen if Kamala gets to be the president because because he's declared incompetent? I mean, you know, there's talk about states seceding from the union now. This is a serious time. So what do we do? You do two things. First of all, you pray and you trust the Lord. You got to understand, it says that the proof of your faith being more precious than gold. This is the idea of our faith.

Who are you trusting in or what are you trusting in? A lot of times what God does is he allows circumstances to come to us which causes distress and causes us some pain and suffering so that we learn to trust in him and not look at those circumstances. When my wife went in for open heart surgery a couple of years ago, and I mean, open heart surgery, people die and she almost died. She came very close to dying. But I remember she was in the gurney and the bed as they're getting ready to walk her in and give her a kiss and hold that. And we talked about everything and her hope was in Christ.

She says, either way I win. She goes be with the Lord or she comes back to us. And her hope was in Christ facing a tremendous trial. This is what we have to do as Christians. We have to decide to trust God through these things.

We have to decide to do it. And it takes practice to decide to trust God even beyond our ability to understand sometimes. That's the first thing you've got to do. You pray and you trust.

You decide to trust because of who you're trusting. The other thing you can do is actually start prepping, which makes you feel good. Get extra toilet paper and canned goods and buy some food that is not perishable for 10 years and stuff like that.

And dig a well in the backyard and put a gun turret around it, whatever. The thing is, you've got to do something that can help you out that way because it is wise to prepare. And as the leftists, they are hypocritical, deceptive, and full of lies.

We've got to be very wary of them, far leftists. So we need to prepare to do what we've got to do physically and spiritually. So that's my advice. It's kind of hard to work sometimes, just to kind of focus on what I've got. I feel like I've been put here on earth for a purpose.

I think we all have. Just sticking to and keeping myself solid as far as that purpose is concerned. It's kind of hard to do what I do just because I'm troubled. I know that my faith is in Jesus and I'm like, hey, he's going to take care of everything. But in the meantime, I tell myself that on the regular and I just remind myself of that. I try to break away and watch some comedy or do whatever, but it can get overwhelming.

Sure it can. I guess my best thing is that's the whole part that I was concerned about. Spend time with the word and with the Lord Jesus Christ. It's easy to get distracted by watching all of that stuff. I understand that, trust me. I live in a world where I'm dealing with false things all the time. It does take a toll on you.

You have to set it aside sometimes and do other things. But here's some scripture for you that you probably will want to read many times. It's Philippians 4, 6 through 8.

I'll be writing down. Philippians 4, 6 through 8. So go 4, 6, 8. 2, 4, 6, 8.

So just 4, 6, 8. Philippians 4, 6 through 8. Philippians 4.

Philippians 4 verses 6, 7, and 8. Memorize those if you can. Alright. I will. I got it. I'll read them out. Alright, man. Okay, buddy. I got it right here. Can I read it out? Oh, oh.

Let me do it because I can get a better connection here. Be anxious for nothing but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God which surpasses all comprehension will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there's any excellence, and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. Okay? Yes, sir. Alright, man. Alright, buddy.

God bless. We got to go. Alright? Thank you. Okay. Alright. Let's get to Sheila.

Let's not get to Sheila. Let's go over to Ann from North Carolina. Ann, welcome. You're on the air.

Hi. I have two questions. I just want to make it quick.

The first question, again, for my child. He said, since Jesus is God's flesh, and how come Jesus doesn't know the end time? Because he said he was the son of the man, doesn't know exactly the time of the day he does. Yeah. You're very hard to understand, but I did follow you.

You want to know why Jesus said no man knows the hour of his return except the Father alone, right? Yeah. I did. I can explain it. Let me do that one, okay? Yeah.

Okay. The reason is because it has to do with the culture of the wedding feast. You'll notice that Jesus is talking about coming back, getting the bride.

The trumpets will be blown a whole bit. When two families agreed in arranged marriage for a son and a daughter to get married, they were then engaged for up to a year period. What they would do is arrange the time of the wedding, arrange for the food, the drink, everything, for people to come and travel across different parts of Israel and to come into the area, have lodging and the whole bit.

One of the options was that the son was required to build an additional room on the house where the father and the family lived because they lived in the family, the whole family thing. What happens is he would build the room on because the son would then go get the bride. Then the wedding would occur usually at the house. They'd go get the bride.

The trumpeters would go ahead of them, blowing the trumpets, which would signify, hey, get your stuff together, let's go. They did know that the day, plus or minus the day, but that was it because everybody had to know because you had to be there. Given this cultural thing, one of the phrases, one of the things that was involved with this, the groom would be building this room. It had to be finished by the day of the wedding. It just had to be.

It always was. Culturally, what happens, his friends would say, well, when's the room going to be finished? They might be already finished. When's the room? When's the father going to tell you that the room's finished? The culturally polite thing to say was no man knows the date nor the hour by the father alone. It was a sign of great respect to the father of the house.

This is how it was in Jewish culture. It doesn't mean when Jesus repeated this, it doesn't mean he didn't know. Because in the context of the culture, of course the son knew that the room was finished and he knew that day he's going to go get the bride. But it was up to the father to say up to the exact minute, maybe in ten minutes, maybe in five minutes, maybe in four.

Okay, now go get your bride. It was a sign of respect to the father. I repeated this once at a study. There was a guy there who was what's called a completed Jew and he studied Judaism left and right, left and right, up and down.

He studied Judaism and culture and everything. And I told this to a group of people and he was listening. And he came to me and he said he was very impressed. He said he's never known of a Gentile who ever knew that because it's true.

He goes, where'd you get that? I said, I don't know. I just learned it in the past. So that's what Jesus was saying.

Okay, doesn't mean he did not know. All right. What's your other question? Yeah, my question, the other question is Daniel 10, 12, 13. Do you want me to read it or do you want to talk to you?

Here, I'll read it. Samuel what? Daniel. Oh, Daniel. Daniel, 10, 12 and 13.

Daniel, 10, 12 and 13. And he said to me, do not be afraid, Daniel, for the first day that you set your heart on understanding this and humbling yourself before God. Your words were heard and I've come in response to your words. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for 21 days.

And behold, Michael, one of the chief princes came to help me for I had been left there with the kings of Persia. Yep. Yeah. I'm familiar with it. There was a battle. Yeah.

So my question is that I have multiple study Bibles, one study Bibles. Hold on. We got a break. So hold on. Okay. We'll get right back to it afterwards. Hey, folks, we'll get back to Ann right after these messages. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Okay, welcome back, everybody. Ann, are you still there?

Yeah, I'm here. So I have all three restaurants for these verses. So the first one, the study Bible says, now we got a small glimpse here of the spiritual reality of the unseen warfare.

Although our prayers are heard at once in heaven, God's answer may delay in coming for reasons that are unknown and imperceptible to us, yet they're still coming. And the other study Bible says the prince is a member of divine council. He is not evil. Wait, wait, wait. What? I couldn't hear that part. You have an accent, so it's hard to understand you, but the prince what?

The prince is a member of the divine council. Okay. Let's stop that one.

He is not evil. No, no, no. Let's stop that one. I won't go with. That's, uh, you know, I would not trust that commentary. No, don't, no, don't trust with that.

Okay. So, Oh, well, well, wait, wait, wait. Do you mean the chief prince? No, no.

Who's Michael? The prince, no. Is that the prince of Persia? Prince of Persia. Right. Yeah. The prince of Persia is generally, the prince of Persia is generally interested to be a demonic force of an angel of fallen angelic realm that's over Persia to which Daniel and the Israelites were then subject. So that was one third of the when go falling with the Satan?

I couldn't understand you. One more time, please. Is that the one third of the angel falling with Satan? Yes.

First down five. Um, well, revelation, but no, it's not when. I would just say that this, that the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding a demonic force in the spiritual realm. And then Michael, uh, one of the chief princes came in and helped Michael is one of the archangels.

So that's it. We would say, uh, that the angel who did come, it was a lesser angel needed help. And Michael, uh, fought, uh, the prince of Persia, which we don't know what kind of an angelic level it is, but there's different levels, cherubim, seraphim, fallen angels are they like, um, in the heaven, the warfare, like on earth, the old days, they find the Lord.

Yes, it appears, but we don't know exactly where and how and what, how it works. Cause they'll talk about the war in heaven. Well, what does that mean? Cause there's three levels of heaven, the air where we are, there's the stars is another one in the dwelling place of God is a third. So there's some debate, there's discussion on it, but nevertheless in the spiritual realm, there was a battle and, uh, this is how it worked. Okay.

So whenever there's a war on earth, it will be a war in heaven. I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't say yes.

Couldn't say no. But, uh, in this case we have the revelation to know what it is. Okay. Oh, okay. So that was evil.

So that the other study Bible, the one that said that the prince of the kingdom of Persia is good. No, I would not, I would not go with that. Okay. All right. Okay. No, I understand.

Thank you so much. Yeah. Okay. All right. Okay.

We're gonna move along again. Okay. God bless. Thanks.

Thank you so much. Yeah. Okay. All right. Talk to you later. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's get over to Carl from Florida.

Carl, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, how are you doing? Doing all right.

Hanging in there. What do you got buddy? Um, I have a brief question. So I have a friend that, hold on a second.

Hello? Yeah. Yeah. So I have a friend, he's a believer, he's considerate of faith, he's passionate for God and all these things.

Okay. And um, he has no problem going to churches that have women pastors, women leadership that come to like pastors. Is he a new believer? He doesn't mind going, he doesn't mind going to concerts to see like Benny Hinn, Todd White, these psycho folks. He might not be a true convert.

Um, you know, that's a possibility. So what I would do if I were you is ask him what the gospel is and what is necessary for salvation. And see what he says. See if it's faith alone in Christ alone.

Okay. Let me, what's that question again, what is the gospel? Ask him what the gospel is. It's possible that he might not be a true Christian because if he's listening to these false teachers, then it's a question you got to ask. If he is really a Christian, then he needs to be corrected and he needs to be rebuked to not listen to the wackos and false teachers like Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland.

And where the pastors of course is unbiblical. So he's not believing the word of God. He's believing experience and sensationalism, not believing the word of God, not trusting it. So you want me to ask them what is the gospel to him? Ask him what the gospel is and how does a person get saved to see what he says. And then also ask afterwards, does he believe the Bible is the final authority?

Is the Bible the final authority? If he says something like, well, the spirit's got to bear witness to spirit. If he talks about the experience of the spirit in his heart, then he's on a bad track. Because even that, which does happen, must be subject to the word of God. Yeah, and similar question, it's the same thing. And when I tell him, like he'll invite me to a church where a woman pastor is going to preach that day or leading, and I'll tell him that, you know, I can't go because that's a pandemical woman, pastor should not be preachers, and he'll get upset, he'll get upset, he'll be, he'll say, yeah, you're right, but he'll still go.

Wait a second, wait a second, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So he admits the Bible condemns it and then he supports it. So then his problem is he's purposely sinning against God.

That's the issue. Yeah, he'll admit that, yeah, it does say that in the Bible, but he'll still go to the church or church or concert. Tell him, tell him, I'm confused, tell him he's in rebellion against God because he's not obeying what God's word says. Okay, it's perfect that you said that because one of his favorite things to say is, oh, you don't, you don't honor the Sabbath because you go to church on Sunday and all these other days.

So your church is unbelievable if you, if you want to like, if you want to go that route, you know? Okay, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. What you need to do is go to the Karm website and read up on why we worship on Sunday instead of Saturday and have that ready and you can go through the material why it is we worship on Sunday, why it was done in the New Testament.

All right. It's funny, you said that I have went to the website, told them many things, and it's thought of thinking is just that man made this, it's never from God, man changed it. So he's probably not a true convert, he, you know, he's going to say he's going to doubt the word of God and just go to Genesis 30 and say that's what Satan did. You know, did God really say that, you know, you're just joining with the enemy to doubt God's word in order to have room for your lies and your heresies.

You need to tell him flat out. This is what I tell people when I tell Roman Catholics, so you're not believing the word of God. You're deceived. So should I tell him that the way his thought process and the way he thinks and what he believes he's not truly saved and not a Christian because I don't want to go that route. No, no, no, no, no. He may not be truly saved.

May. We don't know. That's why I said ask him what the gospel is and ask him what the final authority is. If he's not affirming the gospel and that the scriptures are the final authority, I wouldn't say he's a Christian. If he doesn't know what the gospel is, the death, burial, resurrection of Jesus Christ, and that we obtain salvation by faith alone in Christ alone. If he denies that, he's not a true believer. I mean, you could correct him and if he does accept it, that's because he is a believer. But if he continues in his unbelief of the true gospel, then he's not a believer and you just tell him you're on your way to hell. You don't know the true gospel. This is why you have to know what the true gospel is and most Christians can't articulate it even though it's right there and it's what should be taught a lot, so it's faith in Christ. Okay?

Right. Now, do I still hang out with him? In order to witness to him, yeah, and to be his friend and, you know, gently.

I don't cut the fence as well for my life. No, I wouldn't, but I would try and work with him and say, let's have a Bible study on this and try and draw him closer to Christ. Because recently, he just invited me to a concert that several women pastors, Todd White and many of them, they come in this side of the room. Well, tell you what, if you go, if you go get literature, if they have any literature and then send it to me, take a video, send it to me, because I'll use it in my research of heresies. I would go to a concert like that, bring a camera. I don't think I'd even go to a concert like that.

Yeah, just tell them you don't want to go then. Okay? Yeah. Okay.

All right, Carl, we're going to move along because we've got people waiting. All right? Yes.

Yes. Thank you, man. We'll talk again. Thank you. All right, man.

God bless. Let's get to Anthony from Kansas. Anthony, welcome. You're on the air, man. How you doing, Matt? Doing all right. We've got about three minutes in the show.

What do you got? Or two minutes in the show. Okay. Okay, I'll make it as short as I can. I've been thinking a little bit to the whole topic of evolution and I get, here's what I get. Adaptive variation is not evolution. Microevolution is not evolution, not the way the scientific establishment defines it.

What they're using is macroevolution and it's so wrapped up with science nowadays they think it's scientific. I get that. What I'm trying to get is the idea of the cosmological argument that you can't have an infinite number of regressions back to whatever. I'm trying to get my head around that.

You want to know the problem why you can't have an infinite regression. Okay. Right. If there's no first cause, can there be a second cause? If there's no first, can there be a second? There can't be a second without a first. Without a first. Okay. If we go back infinitely and it continues infinitely, is there a first cause? No.

Then there could not be a second and a third and we could not get to now. What? Okay.

So that's one of the ways to demonstrate it. That's what I'm trying to meditate on. God is the necessary first cause.

God is the one who brought the universe into existence and then he, so to speak, set the first cause into motion. Okay. So I know we only got three minutes, but I have another question real quick. I was kind of reading a King James only track.

I know you don't subscribe to that, but they said that in John 10, seven through 10, they say that modern Bibles remove the word yet, making Jesus a liar. It's the part where he said, I'm not going up to the feast yet. You go on up, I'll go later.

So, but you see, but you know what I'm talking about, right? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. We don't have much time. We have a King James only section written by Luke Wayne. He works with Karm and you can go to Karm and you can look that stuff up and there will be responses there. And if he doesn't have the exact issue, email us and it'll get to him.

You can just say Luke at Karm.org and he'll, he'll do the research. But the issue there is, is the King James only are semi idolaters almost in how they hold it. But that's what you got to do. Okay. Okay. All right. So that's what I would say because we're about out of time here, but okay buddy. Okay. All right, man. God bless. Okay.

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