Where Do We Stand in the Elections?

All right, we're going to see exactly where we stand right now in the elections for the President of the United States. It's time for The Line of Fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Michael Brown is the director of the Coalition of Conscience and president of Fire School of Ministry. Get into The Line of Fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. I know that we're way out from the elections now that took place November 3rd. We're two weeks out and yet the controversy continues. I just spoke with a Christian leader before he said, I know, I know Trump, Trump won and he's, he's going to be in, he's been reelected. They say, are you crazy? You can believe that kind of nonsense?

Just move on. President elect Biden, accept it. So where do we actually stand? I was sent a link last night from a prayer meeting taking place in Pennsylvania, praying for fraud and corruption to be exposed for God's will to be done.

It's obviously believing that the election has been stolen. I was sent the link last night and it was two hours old. It already had 126,000 views on YouTube.

So there's a lot of people tuning in. Just got an email from a nationally respected leader having another prayer meeting on Facebook this week, second of the week, crying out for God's will. What do we make of this? 866-34-TRUTH. This is Michael Brown.

Welcome to the line of fire. Yesterday, we took a break from talking about elections and instead talked about the need for national awakening. And I said, that show will age well. In other words, you could have played that show 10 years ago or 10 years from now and it'll remain an urgent key issue, revival, awakening. But what about a show like today, as I am speaking and doing this live on radio and across the world on intranet, as I'm doing the show, it is Tuesday, November 17th. Just look at it.

Yeah. Two weeks out from the elections, Tuesday, November 17th. If you're watching this on Saturday night on America's Voice on Pluto or Dish TV, wonder how it's going to seem just four nights from now.

If you're watching this a month from now, I wonder how it's going to age. Oh, not what I'm saying. Hopefully what I'm saying will be accurate and fair and right. But what each side is saying that it's complete nonsense to talk about election being stolen.

You're talking about fraud being perpetrated in a systemic and systematic way across the nation, which would take so many players and so much coordination from software to local leaders to individual people. It's insane to think there is such a possibility of that. It's just people living in denial who believe anything Donald Trump says. And he says, you can't believe the news, can't believe the media. Now you can't believe the elections. He's got everybody duped. Are we crazy or you're talking about massive fraud and the evidence is going to be overwhelming. So what's your take right now? I just want to get your take. What do you think? Honestly, you can post your comments, Facebook, YouTube as you're watching.

You can call 866-34-TRUTH, 866-348-7884. Do you personally believe that the election was stolen from Donald Trump? And if so, that the corruption will be revealed and the courts will overturn it? Or do you believe that's just complete nonsense, hot air, latest conspiracy theory?

If you have a working brain, it's obvious that whole election is not going to be stolen here in the United States of America. What do you think? You're not claiming to be a prophet. You're not claiming to have the inside information nobody else in the world has. I just wonder about your own opinion.

What do you think? 866-34-TRUTH and do you think ultimately that we will have a righteous outcome? That ultimately, if the election was stolen, that that'll be revealed and overturned? Could you imagine that? Could you imagine the riots and chaos in the streets? Or, if in fact it was a fairly conducted election, that that will be demonstrated by the courts? The other question is, will either side believe the end results, whatever they are? That's my biggest concern, hence the broadcast that we did yesterday on national waking.

That is going to remain the great, great issue. All right. There was a big prayer meeting for the elections and I want you to hear this prayer that was prayed by Mike Lindell of MyPillow.

This is just from a few days ago. Listen to Mike's prayer. Heavenly Father, please give us grace and Donald Trump as our president for four more years.

Please reveal all the corruption and fraud in this election and show everyone your will. Open doors that no man can shut. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Now, today, today, Mr. President, we are all in to tell you that you are the greatest president ever and we are all in. God bless America. All right.

Yeah, I jumped in a little early there. So I am not praying for four more years of Donald Trump. I never pray for the election of a particular candidate. I pray for God's will. I pray for God's best. I vote my conscience as I trust you do.

And I pray, God, you bring about your will. You bring about what's best. Sometimes there's judgment. Sometimes there's chastisement. Sometimes there's blessing. Sometimes there's a combination of all the above.

And there's no question that the Trump presidency has done a lot of good in many ways and has brought out the worst in many of us in many ways. It's a mix. It's a mix. Okay? So he has to pray what's in his heart, right? And he's praying with great sincerity. But that just gives one side of people being that passionate. Now, let me say this. Every one of us should have the exact same goal. Let every legally cast vote be counted.

Let every illegally cast vote be eliminated. We should all have that goal. May the person that the American people voted for be our next president.

That's simple. That's what I that's what I want. I do not want the person I voted for to be in office unless the people of America under our Electoral College voted for that person.

I don't want that. I voted for Trump. If Joe Biden legitimately won, then I want him in the White House because that's who we voted for. Even if I'll oppose some of his policies or oppose them strongly, or even if there's a lot of bad that comes out of it. Conversely, if Donald Trump did not win the Electoral College, if the election was not stolen from him, then I don't want him as president.

Okay? I voted for him. But you hear what I'm saying. I want the righteous vote to be righteously counted. And whatever that ends up with, so be it. I accept that that person will be my president. That's how our system works.

That's how it works. And whether you like the person or not, you're always going to have almost half the country didn't vote for the person. That person becomes our president. Whether you like Trump or not, right now he's your president. Whether you like Obama or not, before that, he was our president. That's how it works. And we may differ with policies or work against certain things or take issue with, but that person remains our president.

That's the way our system works. Not only so, but with all the prayer going on, with so much prayer and crying out and seeking the face of God, I am convinced that God's will will be done. I am absolutely convinced that I rest utterly confident in that. Plus, God is so far ahead of these elections. Yeah, they're very important. I believe the most important in our lifetime thus far. And I'm 65, so it's been a while.

I've been around for a few elections. But God is so much bigger than this. He is so far ahead of this. His plans are so transcendent.

We look at a certain thing and we think it's the end of the world and it's just the beginning of the first quarter, the first game of a series that's part of a season. So I'm looking with urgency for the moment, but with a longer term vision. I'm going to go to the phones shortly. But let's let's look at some headlines and hear me. I'm going both ways today. I'm going to lay out the case for corruption and the case that there is no corruption.

All right. Because I don't know. Oh, I have a colleague super well connected directly involved with the presidential case for fraud. In other words, someone who is on the inside or connected to people on the inside who's told me, oh, there is damning evidence that the courts will absolutely see conclusive statistical evidence that the election has been stolen.

He's told that, but I'm not there. I don't have it in front of me here. Let me give you an insight in terms of how I think.

OK. And this this will help you. I'm first and foremost, a student of the word in terms of my ultimate bearings and how I determine what's right and not what's real and not. OK, scripture and and I study it carefully, pray, look for spiritual insight, look for digging in and getting information that's there. But my degree's role in languages, my bachelor's in Hebrew, my master's and Ph.D. in Near Eastern languages and literature.

What does that mean? It meant that we didn't just read about Hammurabi's law code. We would learn Akkadian ancient Babylonian in this case and and study parts of Hammurabi's law code in the original text. Or if there was some discovery of documents from a particular place, then we'd be looking at the pictures of the documents and studying the original text. It's just an orientation for me to always go to the original as much as possible.

You can't always do it, but as much as possible. So, you know, if you if you look at my library, I've got a vast library. Well, it's all it's all over the place, but many different languages, books in many different languages. So if there's a dispute about the Talmud says this, OK, I'm going to I'm going to look at the Talmud. I'm going to look at the Aramaic and the Hebrew. I'm going to look at that text.

If there's a dispute about a verse in the Koran. My Arabic is not as strong as it used to be. But, OK, I'm going to look that I'm going to study in Arabic. I'm going to look at it.

I want to get to the actual sources. I can't do that here. I can't I hear what you hear.

You know what I'm saying? I hear the reports of massive fraud here and I hear the reports of all the cases that Trump's lawyers are bringing are being thrown out. I hear the evidence is overwhelming.

I hear there is no evidence. I wasn't there at the precincts. I don't know what the normal policies are. I've never been an expert in how votes are conducted or how how voting is conducted, how votes are counted with them. Have you spent a lot of time over the years looking into that and studying it? And you just go to your local poll place, you fill out whatever the forms are you read and you're done. You go home and you trust it's being done accurately or you question whether it's being that accurate. My point is, I'm not there. Many of you want me to take a stand one side or the other. I stand on truth. And I believe people tell I don't believe people are making things up when they tell me about massive fraud. But I'm not there to verify it. I'm taking someone else's word. What's the use of me taking someone else's word and reporting it to you when I can't verify it? I said, well, I'm doing you no good.

But I can just say that person says. But if you want any wisdom or insight for me, I've got to do it based on what I know. And then I know the other side saying it's all bogus.

You lost your mind, Mike, even thinking about these things. So I'm telling you, we're going to present both sides, going to take your calls. My official view is I don't know, but I do know God. And I am massively confident that God is going to bring everything to light and the truth will triumph.

I'm massively confident of that. All right. We'll be right back. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks for joining us, friends, on the line of fire as as we just sort out where we stand in the elections. Oh, let's just see. Is there a breaking news headline in the last few minutes that everything has changed? No. So as of this broadcast live on Tuesday, November 17th, the president has not conceded and said, OK, I lost fair and square. Joe Biden's new president. So nothing has changed in that regard. What's your take?

I want to know your honest viewpoint about the elections, not larger issues, just very specifically. Was it fraudulent? What do you believe? That's your opinion, right? What do you believe? And do you think there's going to be a righteous outcome?

866-34-TRUTH. And I'm going to go through a bunch of things, some other clips, some headlines, both sides. And oh, an absolutely fascinating Trump story. Trust me. When this was sent to me, actually by my wife, Nancy, she discovered this, sent it to me. Absolutely fascinating.

That's coming your way a little later in the show. All right. Let's start with Vaughn in Detroit. Hey, man, thanks for calling the line of fire. What's your take?

Dr. B, what's going on, baby? Yes, my buddy Vaughn. All right.

Good to talk to you on the air. Yes. What's your take?

Your honest opinion. And you're in one of the hot states. Oh, Michigan. Oh, yeah.

I'm in the hot state. I think just like last election and the election before, I think the election is as accurate as it has been. What do you think? What do you think is driving the charges of fraud then? Well, losing. I'm an athlete.

We hate losing. You know, it's interesting. As an entrepreneur, I've been following Donald Trump for a long time, read every one of his books, with an exception of Making America Great Again. You know, I remember his is his Don King partnerships. Michael Jackson is interesting because in Detroit, when they were opening up for casinos, Michael Jackson and Donald Trump were kind of partnering because they wanted to bid on a couple of casinos.

So I've been following Donald Trump for a while as an entrepreneur. But, you know, we just hate to lose, man. You know, it reminds me of a guy who said, you know, I'm going to play this game, but I'm hurting. Right. My left leg is hurt. Because if I lose the game, guess what I can blame it on? Got it.

And if I win the game, how much more does it make it look that I won the game with a hurt foot? So let me ask a follow up question. Go ahead. And you're not alone in feeling that way, obviously. You know that many Trump supporters are tremendously loyal to him. His famous line, he could shoot someone in broad daylight and Fifth Avenue wouldn't lose lose their support.

Do you think there is any way? Sure. Let's just say that this goes to the courts and the courts say there's a little error here or there, but nothing that affected the election was conducted fair and square. Joe Biden is the lawfully elected president.

Do you think there is any way that the most ardent Trump supporters will believe that short of him assuring them that's the case? No. Got it.

Got it. And what do you... Go ahead. It's almost as if, you know, I heard you say something that I think is extremely important. As you said, God is bigger than this. You know, God is so far ahead of this stuff. And I think that is such a true statement. I think we have to realize that, number one, God is in control.

As a matter of fact, you know, we can go to what does that mean? Is that kind of Calvinistic or is that Arminianism, right? We can talk about it. But that whole idea that God is still yet in control and that he rises people up and he sets people down. I think it just becomes the disappointment of... It's almost like a sports fan. You hate when your team lose. Because if your team lose, you blame every call on the referee.

You didn't do this right. And you realize as a person who plays sports that it was never really that one call. It was so many other teams that... Oh, hang on. Some of the games that were taken from my team, it was that one call, man.

I believe it to this day. You know what? That's what coaches say all the time.

But they'll tell you in the locker room. It should have never gotten to that point. No, I know it. I know it. But I'm messing with you. In other words, to this day, and you know in the world of sports that you're still going to blame that call or this... Yeah. So, alright.

Hey, Von. Thank you for weighing in. Always good to hear your voice, buddy. And by the way, I've never read a Trump book, so you're ahead of me in that score. Thank you.

86634truth. Oh, we go to another key state. Started in Michigan, now Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh. Tom, welcome to the line of fire.

What's your take? Hey there, Dr. Brown. I'm honored to be able to speak to you, sir. First of all, let me say that for 25-plus years, I've been blessed by your ministry, your book. I met you at Best Messiah back in the days when the Feast of Tabernacles and Paul Wilbur and people like Ron Cantor and Juster and A-10 Shishkoff and all these great... Goes way back.

Sweet. Love Israel. Love Israel. I looked at this election, and I looked at President Trump, not as an idol, a man to be up on a pedestal. We have a mutual friend in Ron Cantor as well, and I read his article the other day. And two things. One, your article right after the election, thank you for the God playing 4-D chess.

That was a seller. It helped me to come in off a ledge that day, and I shared it with several friends who were in some doldrums as well, Christian friends. And we realized, hey, listen, Faskian Fisher has nothing on God playing 4-D chess. So that was great. That helped me a lot. And then Ron Cantor's article the other day that he said he believes that God revealed to him that Biden would win because of idol worship, and that we, as a people who have idolized Trump, and actually we Christians have become more like Trump, and we've allowed Trump to become more like Jesus.

That was an eye-opener to me as well. But weighing those things as well and knowing absolutely that God is in control, looking at Pennsylvania, we know, we've seen, and we don't see it on the mainstream media, so we're getting it from alternative sources. We're getting it from Facebook in places where people were visually there, visibly there, videotaping. Republican observers denied access to polling. How and why and where, on what rational world, does somebody deny a person to come in and observe a vote? All right, so you think there's fraud then?

I do absolutely think there's fraud. And I think, you know, when you look at the sheer numbers of voters that came out for Trump, it's incredible. 72-plus million voters, more than any other presidential election ever. I just cannot believe legitimately, seriously, in real life that more people than that came out for Biden, who did the campaign. Yeah, and of course that would have been through the mail-in ballots, et cetera, and that's where some of the controversy is.

All right, hey, thank you for the call. One says no fraud any more than the normal election, the other definite fraud. We'll get more of your take. Here's some news items. Gateway Pundit is having a multi-part series. We caught them. I've got in front of me part two, email inventor.

That's how he refers to himself. Dr. Shiva finds same impossible ballot ratio feature in Michigan results. We caught them. Now, it's just somewhat sensationalistic in the reporting and exclamation points, the bold fonts, and I think they're up to number five in the series now. But they're claiming, oh, no, no, this can be demonstrated, that you have these statistical anomalies, that if something is moving like this, this, this, this, this, this, this, that it suddenly doesn't go like this, and that you can plot it and see it. I've heard from people who are PhDs in statistics making that very argument, but again, I do not have the expertise or the wherewithal to evaluate them, so I'm reporting, those say there is fraud, those say there isn't fraud.

Let me read something to you. There is an article on red state, and, oh, hang on, let me grab the actual article for you. And it was, let's see, Lou Dobbs is exactly right about this one thing, and here's what the article says. This election has been so rife with industrial scale fraud that we'll never know who actually won. The idea that hundreds of thousands of people either voted only for Biden or voted GOP down ballot and against Trump is, to say the least, unusual. Tens of thousands of votes cast for a single candidate or not, no matter what needs silver claims, a usual occurrence. Nor do election officials routinely sort ballots into single candidate piles before tabulating them. We know that tens of thousands of dead people voted.

We know that no signature match was carried out in many jurisdictions that now have exotic results. For all the voices in the media on the left, on the quisling side of the right, declaring questions about devinian voting systems to be conspiracy theories, prominent Democrats made those exact same claims only last year. They were not conspiracy theories then. So here's someone saying, hey, I'm not buying the narrative. And then others saying, OK, you tell me. Now, again, I'm going to present both sides today.

All right. You tell me why in all these key cities that the voting just stopped at a certain point. Now, I know people are giving explanations.

I'm giving the other side. Trump has substantial leads, their swing states, their key cities. Why does the voting stop at a certain point? I was waiting up all night to get the results just as an observer.

Many of you were. Reporters are waiting up all night. People work all night.

Overtime shifts. This election happens once a year, once every two years, once every four years. That's what you do. You count votes. Why does it stop at a certain point and then suddenly the new votes coming in shift everything? Why allegedly are there stacks, stacks, stacks of ballots that just vote for the president and not everybody else and almost all of them for Biden? Now, these are some of the arguments being raised.

Why is it in the very cities where everything shut down? They stopped the voting, that you've got all these eyewitnesses saying we saw trucks coming in, bringing ballots in the middle of night. Let's say, what are you talking about? It's completely bogus. It's been refuted. This is one side of the argument. And when you read it, your blood balls are like, what's happening?

This is wrong. Well, get on your knees and pray. If there's wrong, if there's fraud, if there's deceit, God expose it. Any sign, wherever it is.

And let me say this. These are very important elections. The outcomes are very important. But the future of America is not dependent on Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

It's dependent on Jesus and the church's connection to him. That's what the future of America is dependent on. My official position, if I had to give account to God right now and he said, all right, you have to say exactly how you feel about the elections, were they stolen or not?

My official position is I don't know. I'm very happy to take controversial stance. I do it all the time. I'm happy to lose friends and lose income and lose favor because of taking a stand. I've done it my whole life as a believer.

My orientation is the truth doesn't mean I'm right on everything, but that's the posture and attitude of my heart. You say, but haven't you seen the overwhelming evidence? It's been presented to me, but I do not have the capacity to analyze it in a definitive way. Well, haven't you seen how everything's been completely rebutted?

I've seen that and I don't have the capacity. I'm not trying to take a middle of the road stand. I honestly don't know. But what about all the prophetic voices saying Trump would be reelected?

I don't know. The Holy Spirit didn't speak to me personally. If he did, I would tell you, I believe this is going to happen or I believe that's going to happen.

I believe the Lord spoke this or I believe the Lord spoke that. Look, every day of the week on the broadcast here, I take controversial stance. I'm just being totally honest with you. And you say, well, you're just trying to play both ends against the middle. You get everybody mad at you.

We do this. You get everybody mad at you. Why are you weak?

It's nothing to do with weak. It's just I don't I don't know. I wasn't there. And all I know is I see enough conflicting reports online every single day. I'm going to take your calls in a moment. Just get your opinion, not on the larger voting issues or where America is going. Just on the simple subject. Do you believe the elections were stolen or not?

866-3 for truth. In a little while, I'm going to share something with your story from Donald Trump, his own words that you're going to find very, very fascinating. OK. Right before the break, I presented some of the arguments for the election being stolen. Here are some headlines. CNN, for example, reports this at the the the election crisis in Pennsylvania. It says how a post election crisis was manufactured in Pennsylvania. Yeah, I understand that CNN.

Right. Understand that CNN. But they're saying it was manufactured in Pennsylvania. Just heard from a caller in Pennsylvania said he believes there's real fraud. CNN saying it's manufactured. There's nothing to it. Now, those who believe there was fraud saying, yeah, the media is part of the fraud and they're denying there was fraud.

And they're saying, have you lost your mind? Everybody's in on it now. Right. Here's here's another headline from Politico, a political also left leaning.

All right. Doesn't mean they're not reporting accurately. Purely outlandish stuff. Trump's legal machine grinds to a halt. And they're saying lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuits being thrown out. I was saying, what are you talking about? They've hardly even presented their evidence yet. But here's the the back and forth that exists.

And one clip I just want to play. This is Mark Levin interviewing Sidney Powell. I was not familiar with her before, but her names come up a lot and never tracked or looked into her career that much. But she's reported to be a no nonsense lawyer who takes the bull by the horns and it's fearless. So she's being interviewed by Mark Levin. It's it's a substantial interview.

But I just want to play the beginning as they're talking. She said, oh, we're going to release it. She's I don't get involved unless I know the facts and we're going to release everything very soon. So here's the beginning of their interview from last night.

Sidney Powell, how are you? A tsunami of information coming in from patriotic Americans who are fed up with the corruption all over, including with our own CIA and FBI and DHS. I want to focus, though, I want to focus, though, on the Dominion voting machines where now we're having people say experts say that the Dominion voting machines, there's no fraud.

And I played a piece at the top of the hour with PBS October 26, where they did seven minutes of how this system can be penetrated. But even more than that, how the system is imperfect and they slap something on the end of September to try and improve it. Why are the media ignoring the Dominion voting machines or the system? Because it's going to blow up the whole election. It's going to blow up local elections. It's going to blow up congressional elections for some people because they can pick and choose who they want to win. We've got a firsthand witness now.

In fact, I just emailed you an affidavit from a witness that can now be used publicly. It's redacted in some places, but he was present for the creation of the system for the specific purpose of falsifying election results for Hugo Chávez and then Maduro. He reported it all over Latin America.

It's the Smartmatic and Dominion system specifically built for doing this very thing, for changing the results of elections. He saw it done. He knows exactly how they do it. He explained how they do it. He's seen it work. And he realized when things were happening the way they were here, particularly when the states that suddenly went down, you know, they stopped counting the votes.

That is because the lead was so great for President Trump that they had to go in and do a separate reset on the machines to make it come out for Biden. And you have evidence to this effect, witnesses to this effect. I do indeed. All right. Then it's going to come up.

Right. This is my confidence that if the corruption is at this level, then it cannot be hidden. There are too many people involved.

One of my friends, very, very close to the epicenter of this, has been praying that people involved will come under conviction and confess publicly. But I don't know. Look, you can criticize me for being stupid and believing the reports that there is fraud. You can accuse me for being stupid and not believing the other reports. OK, I in point of fact, I like to investigate and come to conclusions firsthand and something of this magnitude. What's the use of me giving my opinion when there's no further weight behind? If I'm giving you my opinion, I want there to be weight behind it. I'm asking for your opinion because I want to know what you're thinking.

That's why I'm interested to know what you're thinking. And if I had something conclusive or definitive, I tell you who I voted for. I tell you why I voted.

Not trying to pull my punches there. What issues I'd have with Trump having four more years. I voted for him.

What issues I had with Biden coming in. We discuss all these things. But hey, I'm a fat guy. I'm I'm a I'm a guy that likes to sift through the headlines and the reports and the arguments both side and try to dig deeper. I'm a debater. I'm an apologist. You learn to see both sides and try to weigh things. All right. So let the truth come to light.

I'm confident it will. I've got a lot to say once we get to the end of this process. A ton.

A ton. But we will we will get there. All right. Back to the phones. Just find out what you're thinking, what your opinion is. We started in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, with Zane. Thanks for calling the line of fire.

I'm Dr. Brown. I just having watched the media for the last four years more than I wanted to and seeing the narrative that has been pushed, seeing a narrative that was pushed with the same verbiage across the country from different anchors, which in any given body of believers, unless you're reading from a text to get the same verbiage from people. It's really rare to say something the exact same way. In other words, these are circulated talking points, is what you're saying.

Right. It's like a national narrative. And then you have all of Hollywood jumping in. It's not hard to believe that there could be a conspiracy. And I'm not a big conspiracy person, per se. Because it takes a lot of people to involve that. But we've seen a lot of people. When you see the media, the way they've been, I mean, if I pull up Yahoo, every single story that I don't want to get a rabbit trail, but every single story will bash Trump. Every single one. The narrative has been so one-sided, and yet those of us that, you know... God, in other words... ...see the economy improving got raises this year.

Right. So you're one of the 70 plus million that voted for Trump. So in other words, you already have suspicions about a coordinated effort to attack Trump in the media. We know what's happened with the social media giants Twitter and Google and YouTube and Facebook, etc.

So why would it then surprise you in any way that the election itself would be corrupt? Hey, I appreciate you weighing in, Zane. And by the way, as far as talking points circulating, let me just say this. I've listened to compilation sometimes after some major news event, and it's maybe from 10 or 15 different news outlets. And they all use the exact same word to describe the same thing. I've seen it happen with me on Internet, where we have something on a controversial issue and people start weighing in to attack. And they all use the same expression. They got it from the same source.

It's not that they all came together on it, but they're getting it from the same source. This happens all the time. It happens with teaching in the church. Something just gets parroted around. Everybody repeating the same thing, and then you trace it back to where it started. All right.

Again, I'm just getting your viewpoint on this. Let's go to Tampa, Florida. Stephen, welcome to the line of fire.

Hey, Dr. Brown. How have you been? Very well, thank you. Good. I want to say first, I agree with you and your position on this.

I'm the middle road guy, and I've gotten some flak because of that. This is the first time I'm going to say this, but I felt God speak to me personally that Donald Trump was not going to be reelected. And the reason is, is because I felt the media, like the previous caller stated, has had a significant impact on the voting process and how people think. And I do feel that in some way from my own personal experience in the church, that the church got comfortable with Donald Trump being president and did not even think about Trump possibly losing in 2020. Especially if Joe Biden was going to be the running mate for the Democratic Party.

But one thing specifically that I have my own personal experience again is that there's great division now being caused in the body, and I'm sure you're realizing this, Dr. Brown. And I think that we need to remember, like you've been saying, that Jesus is on the throne regardless of who's the president in the office. And my hope and prayer is that Joe Biden repents and turns his faith to Jesus. I mean, you talk about a testimony for the country. I mean, that's my heart and prayer, regardless of my political beliefs. So I just want to state that I appreciate that.

I appreciate that, Stephen. We're not saying that the issues aren't urgent. We're not saying that the election does not have massive consequences.

We're simply giving our views on whether we believe it's stolen or not. All right. I'm going to share that Donald Trump story with you on the other side of the break and also take some more of your calls. And we'll see how this ages right now as we're speaking.

It is Tuesday, November 17th, but we will see how this ages in the days ahead. We'll be right back. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown. Get into the line of fire now by calling 8 6 calling 6 3 4 truth. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown.

Thanks for joining us on the line of fire. 8 6 6 3 4 truth number call. I am aware of a mountain of evidence alleging fraud. My issue is I'm not able to analyze it personally and then to analyze those saying that the evidence doesn't hold up.

But I am able to pray and to ask God to bring justice. I am able to raise attention on various issues. So there's an article by my colleague on the stream. I read only five articles a week that are all posted on the stream.

And then on our Web site, ask Dr. Brown dot org. But other sites as well. But I write regularly for the stream. And my colleague there, Al Parada, has his new article up. He's been writing regularly and it's called Here's the Evidence.

So if you want to see, go to the stream, stream dot org. Here's the evidence. And he links to a lengthy spreadsheet, a lengthy spreadsheet with all the alleged evidence.

So it's there. You say there is no evidence. Check it out. Check it out.

You say the evidence is overwhelming. Go go look. Analyze it.

All right. But here's something that's just I just want to put this in context. I want to put this in context. This article, if I didn't tell you, is from 2016.

You'd think it was from yesterday or from the week before. But it's The Guardian 2016. And I want to go through some of this article with you. I think you'll find it fascinating. All right. It's entitled The Man Who Cried Rigged The Problem with Trump's Election Claims.

And then it says this. The thing you need to know about Donald Trump is that he never loses. Never. Whether it's in business or politics, Trump either wins outright or he was going to win until victory was stolen from him, usually through a quick, a crooked conspiracy of his enemies. U.S. presidential election is rigged, says Donald Trump. This is 2016 when Ted Cruz defeated him in the Iowa caucuses.

All right. That's why his assorted bankruptcies and collapses were never his fault. Why even his multimillion dollar failures were actually successes.

It's why when his TV show The Apprentice failed to win an Emmy, it was proof not that the program was lacking, but that the Emmys themselves were unfair, all politics and horrendous. Trump signaled that he would apply the same approach to his bid for the White House at the earliest opportunity. In February, Iowa held its caucuses, marking the traditional start to the primary forces whereby each party chooses its candidate for president. Trump came second, losing to the Texas senator Ted Cruz.

No one was very surprised. Cruz is a Christian conservative and Iowa's Republicans often pick Christian conservatives. Trump was a thrice married New Yorker, more familiar with Mam and then with God. But to Trump, there could only be one explanation. Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa. He stole it, Trump tweeted. That's why all of the polls were so wrong and when he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad. Forty five minutes later, Trump tweeted again based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa caucus. Either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified. Now, I go through this whole article.

It's a lengthy article. Nancy sent it to me the other day and I thought, this is absolutely fascinating. This is 2016 with the first vote when he lost like it was rigged. It was taken from me. I can't lose.

The only way I lost it was taken from me. He's been saying that for months. The only way I could lose this election is by fraud. So there is the legitimate concern on one side that this is what he always does. This is what he's always done. There is nothing new here. He's been doing this for years. It's rigged.

The thing has to be redone. The results should be rescinded because there's no possible way I could lose if it's fairly contested. And if I lose, it means I actually won somehow. And he's been setting that up for months. And his followers will believe whatever he says.

Remember, he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. He said broad daylight and wouldn't lose any support. And this is just proof of mass deception, mass hallucination.

And the cult of Trump or, or I'm going to give you three possibilities. This is how he always sees things. In other words, he always thinks if he loses, someone cheated. So because he couldn't lose legitimately.

But in this case, there was fraud as opposed to in Iowa. And then third possibility is he's been warning about this for months because he saw it coming. Because he had legitimate concerns because of COVID and mail-in ballots that he saw it coming. Here are my biggest concerns.

All right. Aside from the fact that if the courts overturn this, you can have riots, chaos in the streets. And if the courts don't overturn it, you're going to have tens of millions of Trump supporters not believing that he lost. So we are heading for real potential chaos and crisis either way.

And if cool heads don't prevail at the top of that, filters down to others. It could be 2020 could look like paradise compared to 2021. Think of that. That's a scary proposition. So by all means, don't just pray for the righteous outcome of the elections. Pray for God's mercy on our nation. Pray for God's mercy on our nation. I forgot to change the hearts of leaders.

So, yeah, let's let's pray comprehensive prayers. But my big concern is that some of us are so committed to Donald Trump that we'll believe whatever he says. Do a bit of a reality check there. Do a bit of a reality check and make sure you're a truth based person and that you're willing to hear both sides of an argument. On the other hand, some are so hostile to Trump and and and so opposed to Trump that they don't really care.

Just get rid of them one way or another. In which case you have lost your spiritual bearings as well. Let's be truth based people and people who recognize Donald Trump, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Mike Pence, all human beings, all sinful in need of redemption, some knowing the Lord, some not. But our ultimate issue is that people know the Lord and walk righteously and we can't take our eyes off that. Check out my latest article. It's probably getting less attention because the subject matter. But it's saying we've got to reset our priorities and put great commission first. It probably won't get nearly as many reads as a controversial political article, but it's probably one of the most important I've written in quite a while.

Stream dot org or ask Dr. Brown dot org. All right. Let's see if we get to a couple more calls before we are done here. Let's go over to John in Des Moines, Iowa. Welcome to the line of fire. What's your take? How are you doing, Dr. Brown? Doing well, thanks. It set up very well talking about Iowa. It was interesting. And I'm kind of like you. I think, you know, there there may be something there may not.

I'd like to have the information. I believe, you know, the Lord's in control, you know, one way or the other. But a couple of things I thought was interesting the night before the election, when the Des Moines Register, you know, here in Iowa, a tradition liberal, you know, newspaper comes out with a poll, you know, that I think was a seven point spread. And I thought usually usually the register is not, you know, going to come out for Republican and such, too. But in the next day and I was like I was like, huh, that's interesting.

And the next day I was spot on, you know, Trump by seven. And I thought, you know, if this is happening here, I mean, that was one thing that was really interesting to me. And just the other night, also another thing, you know, because all the college had been talking about media. And I think that's something that a free Internet for us to be able to research, for us to be able to, you know, find out for ourselves instead of CNN, MSNBC, Fox and those sort of things.

But we can find out for ourselves is so important. The other night, I was flipping through and on YouTube, there was a series of 10 part and maybe you've seen it. And I thought it'd be great to talk to or send this to Mark Levin here. You can put this up on your show.

But Francis Schaeffer, who wrote that book, How Shall We Then Live? There's a 10 part series. And then the last episode, the 10th episode, about 25 minutes, he gives a scenario where they actually filmed a protest riot type situations in the street. This was in 1977. This is filmed 43 years ago. Like you said earlier, you know, this could have been you were talking about a scenario from 2000.

Right. This could have been this could have been written today. The first scenario scene, they were talking about, you know, oh, these protesters, you know, the police are trigger happy, this, this, this. And then they went to the second scenario where it was opposite. And he was talking about, you know, how the media can manipulate. And when, you know, when societies and cultures and such are turning away from, you know, a biblical base. Right.

And I just thought my job, my jaw just dropped because this could have been filmed yesterday. Yes. So the degree of potential manipulation and how you come to the emotional outcome that's desired is scary. And hey, John, thank you for calling from Iowa. And let me just say this. There's a verse in Proverbs.

Sadik Harisham Brevo, the one who comes first, seems righteous in his argument. You follow a hoover. And then his colleague comes in and investigates, checks it out because I'm a debater. I'm used to hearing something very, very powerful, systematic. Boom, boom, boom, boom, accurate, accurate. And then I get up and tear the thing apart because I'm familiar with it.

I can I can poke holes in it. So, yes, I get by the second videos and the headlines sent to me from all of you from around the world. You've got to see this. You've got to see this.

You've got to see this. And then the others contradicting them. And because I'm unable to stop life to dig in and investigate every one of these and spend thousands of hours watching the videos, reading the reports. What I'm doing is doing my best to look at both sides of what's being reported, come to conclusions where I can, but then pray with fervor. Your will be done, God, for America. Wherever there is corruption, sin, expose it. Let there be a righteous outcome to this election. Can we all pray that and then accept that ultimately the courts will get it right? We'll be back, friends. Don't miss the next broadcast.