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October 30, 2020 5:30 am

The year 2020 has been one full of significant events in America, from the pandemic to violent street riots to massive political upheaval. But how urgent are our times from a biblical perspective, and how should Christians prepare for the future? Dr. James DeYoung, senior professor of New Testament Language and Literature at Western Seminary, joins me to talk about it and his book, " The Apocalypse is Coming." That's next time on Friday's JANET MEFFERD TODAY.

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But it is clear that 20/20 has been a year of massive tectonic plates shifting and even more of it may be right around the corner and that should cause all of us to go back to our Bibles to examine the end times, because we know that although all the details are not clear to us yet. At some near point in the future is my next guest says apocalypse is coming, and Christians should get ready, soaring to talk about it today with Dr. James Dion, Senior Prof. of New Testament language and literature at Western seminary.

Portland is also Mayor of Damascus, and today we are to be talking about his book called the apocalypse is coming and it is Dr. DeYoung great to have you with us again will good afternoon and I appreciate the opportunity to be with you. Well were so glad you're here. I know that that's are a rather depressing title.

The apocalypse is coming, but it certainly isn't. Do you think that 2020 is putting that on the front burner a little bit more for the church or currently due when I began my book, you're not up ago never good about managing the events of 2020 would unfold a great therefore was able to make a few references to the current struggle facing our country in the world well before Bonnie went to final form in mid the midyear of 2020. But your right, so your timing was impeccable, and I'm sure very providential as well. Urgent which you say the times are in, which were living right now. I think nobody could have predicted, not just you. I don't think anybody could have predicted the events of 2020 and everything that is gone down this year but how are you seen this year in particular from a biblical perspective and especially from the perspective of the end times will first of all, but the title of my book the apocalypse is coming.

Title the right of the antichrist. The restrainer removed and you look right. Victoria at Armageddon's photo captured three main point I think began to study because those are combustible news to which I'd been teaching in church and I realized that there would pulp of their about the antichrist who fill significant colonial believers were the first date setters wrongly so, because they thought they were already living in the last days but is living in the day of the Lord, but they prayed to come from the Old Testament depicting both the judgment of the nations at the end of the age and the deliverance of God's people pulp as well know you're not.

We are not yet living in the day of the Lord because two things have to happen before that and so he goes on to stipulate that there first of all of the come a great' or falling away that might refer to Christian falling away may refer to nations coming much more aggressive against God and the rebellion of Psalm 2 Taken Pl., but the second item is clearly to the man of lawlessness have to be revealed as one of several titles using the Bible for the antichrist of a man of lawlessness or the antichrist have to be revealed before the end of the age is finally consummated in the day of the Lord of the antichrist will be revealed. Daniel told us at the last time, let me interject right here to my study led me then to the first mention of the antichrist which is in the book of Daniel and what Dan ought to say there is really quite exhaustive, then that led me to Matthew 24 second Thessalonians 2 to 1st John and second John worked antichrist terms occur.

The only place in the Bible and then to the book of Revelation chapters 11 through 19, where the antichrist is covered in great depth. So when I went through all the study I was deeply impressed with how urgent the times are to get ready for the last time over the end times. These studies indicate the various assigned to take place, which would increase the understanding of prophecy do you do with the fact that Jesus said that gospel of the kingdom must be preached in all the world and then the end will come in certainly today. Those were to return tomorrow.

We could say well the gospel was indeed gone out into all the world and so even though the specific date setting is not to be entered into.

We should not try to predict that with accuracy. That way we can certainly say we are far, far closer to the end time than ever before.

We certainly are going back to what you said about the Thessalonians. Being a little bit unclear on the times in which they were living in Paul correcting them and say no. First you have to have the apostasy then you have to. They have the revealing of the man of lawlessness. What are your thoughts about the state of apostasy right now. Clearly there are different places in the world where the gospel is going forward and bearing more fruit than other places. I think we tend to see everything from our perspective is Americans and see in many respects the country going down the toilet spiritually and morally if I can say it that way. What are your thoughts though on where we are in terms of apostasy, especially when we see some of the statistics about people who are professing Christians not even understanding Christian doctrine, and in many respects, not even having a biblical worldview. I mean all these polls that have been done on biblical knowledge and biblical literacy are just appalling for people who are professing Christians. But you see how you examine all of this and put it in perspective. Well again I cannot make any predictions with accuracy as to where we are day or year.

We are in love when the Lord is going to return. You just pointed out the ministry of the Holy Spirit, and when working in bringing people to salvation and building his church is different around the world and there are wonderful places where the gospel is having tremendous impact on thinking of the countries of India and certain other countries around the world, the Philippines, and elsewhere, and even in Muslim countries. A significant turning to Christ.

When I look at the West and I'm thinking primarily of Western Europe and in the United States is a different picture. Western Europe is pardoning is basically in apostasy. Generally speaking, and the United States is making the directions going that way and just where we are about only the Lord knows the true understanding of things and so I can only say that the era of Christian influence in America is waning, and it is a serious call to repentance and the revival sentence for nation from our great revival of the church.

I think the best church in Revelation 2 and three that describe this. Of the seven churches in the final church. The church of Laodicea I and a friend were talking about this just yesterday in saying that we would be better to be taught that neither and neither. We should be either cold or hot and not lukewarm and that the state of the church is lukewarm in America.

Yeah, we lost our first loss in many tax yeah I mean that's what's so distant and disquieting about the entire scenario is that you have to have the apostasy first and then the revealing of the man of lawlessness use pointed out that the antichrist really is the prime indicator of the end times right.

Then, and I was amazed at how much the Bible teaches about him. I put together in an appendix. I think over hundred statements that it makes in the book of Daniel and elsewhere in the New Testament about him yes well I want to get into some of that because you have mentioned there a lot of references throughout Scripture to the antichrist but mainly I want to start with Daniel. We gotta pause for a very short break will come right back with Dr. James DeYoung, the apocalypse is coming is the name of his book will return right after this listening to tenant Kevin Sorbo of the hit films.

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The restrainer removed in Jesus Christ victorious in Armageddon. Such an important subject and when we were talking about the second Thessalonians chapter 2 of the warning there to the church when the apostle Paul. He warned of a time of apostasy having to proceed. The revealing of the man of lawlessness also known as the Antichrist, but as you mentioned before going all the way back to Daniel.

You see, the antichrist mentioned and expounded upon what is most significant aspects of the identity of the antichrist or the role of the antichrist do we learn from Daniel.

Daniel give the upper right in the Bible and are therefore among the Old Testament book when I began my number.

Imagine that it would lead to various understanding than I had before the Antichrist is revealed. First, somewhat indirectly, in chapter 2, but clearly indicated in chapter 7 and chapter 2 of the great dream a dozen Toles astrologers and interpreters. What it might be, but they don't deceive him what it might mean Daniel with his three friends seek the Lord's understanding about the Lord revealed to them and he and Daniel identified a mystery and the mystery of God's kingdom in heaven above to bring his kingdom to earth below, but he is truly great in wisdom and in power and wisdom to know all the empires in the course of history in the future and have the power to bring about. Daniel reveals that he Bible and in the head of the image and goes on to indicate lower part on the image of being media Persia, Greece and Rome to lay and then put on the bottom of the other two legs are 10 toes mixed with iron and clay, but interestingly all of the multiple, a stone that will strike the huge image and bring the whole thing crashing striking it on the toes and bring the whole image to it means that there's 1/5 kingdom yet to come.

After Rome, which is the antichrist kingdom of 10 nations.

When we get the chapter 743 be revealed to Daniel in his dream, and he is told interpretation of it refers to again Bible and media Persia three and then roam the final base but that final beast is indescribable in the front that there's nothing like it in the creation around the and on the third 10 horns. In those 10 horns then were told our final kingdom that will arise after the fourth one and out of that will come a little horn, which will strike down some of the 10 horns, and will rule and will strike against God's kingdom strike against God, the most high God and against God's people on earth. The faint when we compare those two chapters to seven. We realize that the 10 toes correspond to the 10 horns of chapter 7 and when we carry that vision onward into Daniel, we find out that the Christ will have his precursors in history and Antiochus the fourth right booth in the second century BC to become the worst ruler of Greece against Israel, tried to destroy Israel. All laws, the Torah laws faithful worshipers outlawed circumcision and so forth.

Then Antiochus is finally rounded by the Maccabean revolt described in the book is rebooked of the Maccabees and the Antiochus all of a sudden becomes a type of the greater person become a dandy age to do evil against God's people, namely the antichrist and if you want me to go on I can finish Daniel in this way, you know, I wanted to ask you one question because when you're talking about the toes and you talking about the horns.

One of the things that comes to mind is Revelation 13 because there's a discussion there of the first beast of Revelation. There's a reference to the beast rising out of the sea with 10 horns and seven heads, and it goes on to say that they worshiped the Dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, who is like the beast, and who can fight against it, but then it says and the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words and it was allowed to exercise authority for 42 months. It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name is dwelling and then it says it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. So for a lot of Christians say is that a direct confirmation of what Daniel was prophesied.

All you read from Revelation 13 and also from 17 are directly coming from the book of Daniel.

For Daniel Elvis again in chapter 8 that the antichrist, bye-bye Antiochus the fourth. I will speak blasphemous things against God, you will make war with the saints, and so forth clear that when we get the Revelation 13 and 17 John the apostle was expanding on Daniel and all the three thoughts of Revelation are found in Daniel yes so then those people who are looking Revelation 13 and seen the beast making war on the saints is sometimes there's some confusion about the timing of the end times.

You know when will the Lord come back for his church.

Are we really gonna go through tribulation and his tribulation going to be the same thing as the great tribulation. How do you sort that out from an event in a list or event list, as it were, in terms of the you know the chronology of it while you first before you get to that going to rebel against God and try to destroy God's people.

I was puzzled by how can he do that when God in heaven above and his people are on earth below, and how can the antichrist attack God in heaven. I wanted my antichrist, and first and second John, I realized the answer to that is the, the incarnation of God on earth in the person of Jesus Christ going to attack Christ on earth. The incarnate one in his people about how Daniel's prophecy is fulfilled as we come to the New Testament. So as we go on to understand the act of antichrist in the timing of events. It is clear that the great tribulation is prophesied in Daniel 12 one and Jesus used those terms to describe the same time in Matthew 24, 21, so when we come to Matthew 24. It is clear that you referring to Daniel `Daniel in verse 15 in the world. In the New Testament.

Daniel ever named Andrew this is the only one who uses that name. Let me also say that Jesus is very much aware of Daniel's prophecy when we get to Matthew 13 and into this great statements about the parable of the parable of the kingdom is in verse 11 that the kingdom of heaven is like unto these things, that is saying of the book of Daniel is being symbolized by the various parables of what's going to happen in Jesus used the terms of the and the harvest of the age and so forth. In two or three times at the end of chapter 13 chapter 24 verse 15. We are already at the middle point of the tribulation. According to Daniel 927 Daniel in the middle of the week. The last 70th week of Daniel. The antichrist is going to break his covenant and commit what we call the abomination of desolation. The temple rights price quote.

Please words in verse 15 and a cousin for when you see that which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place, take heed and understand to the thing we reach the midpoint of the tribulation when the antichrist is going to vent his anger against Israel in an unprecedented way.

Scary to think about so the Christ. Really, when you go through all of the Bible. The antichrist comes with white about seven or more titles.

I believe you say seven or more than that. And so, Daniel, will you, there is one the blasphemers one take big people think against God.

Paul called him a man of lawlessness. Later, the temple, and a course first John and second John call him the antichrist. The only place in the New Testament were those terms are used yes so that he will be drawing the Gentile nations, to Israel to destroy it than during the battle of Armageddon. Yes, go so we believe.

I believe strongly that the rapture occurs at the beginning of the mid-tribulation, pre-tribulation Oak rapture and I I will conduct a debated issue. You might say, but it is far stronger to believe in a pre-millennial understanding of the course of the ages to come, then, and all millennial one and I take many pages to discuss the base of the pre-millennial thinking from the book of Daniel, and after my study of Daniel. I became convinced more than ever before, that this is the only proper written and legitimate way to understand the future course of history. Yes right well well and that's it. That's important because when you're talking about different eschatological positions. The way that if in fact the entire book of Revelation is interpreted by millennial's is completely different and and spiritualize to a large extent, so that's that's a completely different system of thought than premillennialism would be to elaborate on the what is law all millennial view all millennial view to the Bible means that basically were taking a spiritual or figure of approach to prophecy and on page 15 and 29 and 30 a list about 25 things that are lost if one takes in all millennial view yet is no literal great tribulation. There is no literal really antichrist.

There is no seven-year period of attack against Israel and the 3 1/2 years at the end there is no literal restoration of Israel. Israel have been replaced by the church and on articles like that yes yeah it's a real problem because when you and I want to talk about this with you in a little bed this whole issue.

In order for us to know that prophecy has been fulfilled. It has to be literal. I mean we would net you know when we look at Old Testament prophecy predicting the Messiah, the coming of the Messiah. We know that he was to be born in Bethlehem, because Scripture said so, and then he was born in Bethlehem, there was a way to see prophecy and then see the fulfillment of prophecy precisely because it was literal and why would we think any differently when it comes to future prophecy makes total sense for you to take a break will be right back. The apocalypse is coming. Dr. James Dion with us will be back after this. This Janet map are today archived broadcast is brought to you by Hartford Lebanon were trying to provide 100 refugee families with emergency supplies and the gospel. During this urgent time of crisis. Your gift of $116 will help to families. Please help today by calling 888-247-5499. That's 888-247-5499 where there's a banner to collect@janetmyfor.com Janet Mefford today. Here's your host Joe Mefford why there is so much to talk about when it comes to the end times. There's no way in hours going to do it justice but were doing our best. Here Dr. James Dion is joining me the name of his book the apocalypse is coming.

The rise of the antichrist. The restrainer removed and Jesus Christ victorious and Armageddon talk about the second aspect, a major aspect of the end times that you discuss in the book you had reference before the second letter of Paul to the Thessalonians. And I'm reading from verse six from chapter 2, and you know what restrains him now talking about the man of lawlessness so that in his time he will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of his mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of his coming when you talk about the restrainer thou in your book you discuss the role of the United States which I find fascinating. Can you tell people how you see the United States fitting into Bible prophecy as a restrainer delightful discovery on my part because again I started this whole ammonia you just wrote about the restrainer in my research on both.

I discovered that even though it is a popular evangelical view to understand that the Holy Spirit in the restrainer today. Yes, and in fact out of the view of the Scofield reference Bible the Bible. I sort of grew up on. As a teenager, I realize that that is not the view the church through history that the view of the Christian church in history of been that it is government and rule rule of law and so forth and I found that the degree of confirmation about internally from the Scriptures is Romans 13. When we compare Romans 13 with one is to the idea of restraint several times in Romans 13, and therefore I've come to the view that the restrainer is government and law, and there had been very government and in fact fail. Government represents restraint of greater evil. That's what the Romans 13 is all about. Yes, we look at nation today.

In the last hundred years. I think it's fair to say that no other countries have served the role as restrainer of evil in the world and the United States.

We can think of World War I into another war for the top and then dictators being overgrown and so forth.

Yes. And so the United States for Bill about it than any other nation in history. Therefore, I understand that the restrainer today, the United States restrainer par excellence, devote a whole chapter. Chapter 1 to supporting that idea if that's the case then what happens to the United States is very very significant in regards to its role in history. It may well be that we act out the final restrainer of evil. Interestingly, Paul the second testimony is to the mystery of lawlessness terminology that comes from Daniel is already at work use of the present tense. Anything that this is a work of evil that is going on in the world have always been, but it gets progressively worse as time goes on.

So when the United States is removed or pushed aside or whatever to you. The phrase, all hell breaks loose. The restrainer, namely, it is removed and then the antichrist appears and that he will act as the restrainer or controller of the earth the whole world will give allegiance in one form or another to him will you will serve as the Solver of the world's problems and under great deceit.

You will be forwarded really by the by Satan himself as the only actor to the world problems and then as we look at the world today.

My, what a fitting play the world for him now and the fact that think of the pandemic and the solution to about and all of the other efforts that are going on in the world the right to military power in China and so for right the great reset that I had mentioned at the time. Yeah, exactly. There's some really strange things coming down the pike just a technical question though because I know there may be some listeners who are wondering about this in second Thessalonians 2 verse seven uses the pronoun he for the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way, is there any exegetical problem with that pronoun reference squaring with what you're saying could potentially be a reference to the United States. It does pose any sort of problem exegetical. He I don't think so. To wait to refer to the restrainer. He refers to it, open it thing you might say. And then you work or personal, and so I understand that in the first place to refer to government in the abstract or rule or law, an abstract, and secondly, the ruler of the country and interestingly, Paul in Romans 13 talk about the way you talk about submitting to government and then open to its rulers so tired resolve that.

That's not a problem per se a problem for for all people who interpret this verse because the Holy Spirit is an equally challenging way to fit him into both ways of referring to him. Yes Fairpoint. So now you discuss a bit about the sign Scott. He's given to our nation in the world. I mean here we are on the precipice of another presidential election that is quite daunting because you don't have two sides that are that close together. You have very very different views not only worldviews but also views of what the United States ought to be.

What about these signs that you think on his given to our nation.

You mentioned 9/11 you've mentioned the pandemic. What about these signs. What is the Lord trying to reveal tarnation to believe that the need for repentance clearly but when you make that time. But Matthew 16 and gold are not listening or looking for the type of the time even though they could tell the find of good weather and bad weather. Jesus is referring again back to Daniel and the various thing that Daniel is prophesying concerning the end of history. This man interject something else here to talk about for kingdom followed by the fifth. Namely that of antichrist. Yet when we get to Revelation 13 and 17. There are seven heads and 10 horns in all about.

Will the seven heads represent Daniels 412 the antichrist plucked two more that preceded Babylon there identified in Isaiah and Ezekiel. First of all Egypt and Syria. We had a cold kingdom there a gold empire that have attacked Israel in the course of its history and Rome was the last one in the predominant one during Paul's time, so signs of the times refer broadly speaking to the right and fall of various empires and may I expand on this a little bit when we when we read action help all came to Thessalonica and preach the gospel therefore just three weeks or two weeks and three weekends ago.

He was chased out of the city by Jews and the local magistrate because the Jew said he preaches another ruler other than Caesar and that allowed the local civil leaders to find a reason to get rid of Paul. You might say. And so what I firmly believe now that when we preach the gospel when Paul preached he will not avoid the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, but his return as King of the world. Yes and that is another side. Here we have all kind of democracies Republican forms and otherwise, that have arisen in the last 200 years and you stand as a bulwark you might fit against evil greater evil in.come from globalism but now look at what's happening and you referred to this reset for scheduled for next year. This is the globalist the tendency or pattern and so again were were sitting at a very critical issue or balance in time in history in which you were going to see an abrogation of Republican democratic forms of government for greater go ballistic concern and in control of government. Another sign of the times and this is something Christians have discussed all my life I've heard people talk about this. The one world government. The aspect of the antichrist exerting worldwide control and together with his false prophet, forcing everybody to receive his mark of 666 so all of these things we know are discussed in Scripture and the question becomes, what else should we know about some of these major signs concerning the end times. There's another one I want to talk about with Dr. James Dion will take one more break, the apocalypse is coming is the name of his book will be right back to the discussion on Jennifer to did you know that Bible list believers around the world are praying to receive their very own copy of God's word to the ministry of Ivy League international you can send those Bibles today care from Mang in Vietnam done half Bible how they can find the truth because the Bible like a man bring them to find the truth, and many people they are really hungry for the word of God and then delete the Bible, always a pastor in Ghana praying for Bibles for former Muslim radicals now following Christ, and I was forced into an arranged marriage to an abusive atheist in Albania, but her godly witness changed his heart and now he needs a Bible. Amelia lost everything after his home was burned by terrorists in Mexico and he's praying for a Bible to share Christ with others, will you be the answer to these God's word dollars since one Bible $50 since 10 and because of a matching gift right now.

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Thank you so much for being here, Dr. James DeYoung is joining me senior professor of New Testament language and literature at Western seminary in Portland, Oregon, and we are talking about his book the apocalypse is coming. The rise of the antichrist. The restraint removed in Jesus Christ. Victorious at Armageddon that Dr. Jiang we had gone over some of the data biblical data on the antichrist.

We talk some about the potential role of the United States as this restrainer of evil referenced in second Thessalonians chapter 2 something else that you mention is the restrainer and I'm sorry the issue of mystery is what I wanted to get to the concept of the mystery that governs the events that reach to the end of the world and you say this is really a key to unlocking the prophecy that we see in the Bible about the end times. What should we know about this word mystery that is used in Scripture referencing this time.

What a wonderful question covered when I got Daniel how marvelous mystery revealed to her in the Aramaic of Daniel chapter 2.

Word draws the Greek theory on from which we get our English word mystery and are confident that preceded Daniel from the book of Job and Ecclesiastes. When we get to Daniel be the only one that you sent that there is a ruler in heaven above, namely God over all bring the kingdom to going to be by means of the stone, cut out of the mountain without hands. The reference to Jesus Christ in chapter 7. One is identified as the Son of Man coming on to the father to receive authority to rule his favorite title in the gospel. It is on trial in funny ways. After several times who you are. I am a man and you will hear him coming on the clouds of heaven and with the high priest toward garment and declared he blasphemed because when we go to Daniel seven, which is part of the whole conflict of mystery man will be revealed and you a divine person so connecting all the. The mystery means that God rules in heaven above and bring his kingdom to earth and supplant all Gentile kingdoms bring history to an and Luke 24, 21, so Jerusalem will be surrounded by the Gentile until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled until about age going to come to an and in all of the compass and mystery. One other interesting element of mystery. So Mr. covers all of the book of Daniel, and many and 25 uses in the New Testament but an interesting concept occurs in chapter 12 in which Daniel was told it going to rise to the inheritance at the end of the day very very strong resurrection interesting to me to come across these words and one of the gospel in which to the Wellington Gospel of John chapter 11: the we know that he will write namely Lazarus will rise. At the end of the day.

What a wonderful who was Daniel prophesied for Daniel so mystery concerning really concerns of the broad umbrella concept that concerns all the end time fulfillment events including our own resurrection and we can identify here the rapture the church according to first Corinthians chapter 15 behold, I show you a mystery and then gold like that. It's exciting. I mean I always feel two ways about it.

On the one hand, when I get into the details about the end times.

There is an element of it that is scary and very daunting, but at the same time, it's thrilling because we know that God is fulfilling his promises.

Do you see the church that you'd mentioned in your book that while were delivered from the great tribulation. We will experience tribulation and suffering, and I think that always makes us all a little nervous and want to be persecuted. But you know we do see an unprecedented global persecution of Christians within the last year and that also seems to be playing into the way things are moving and the direction were going but what sort of encouragement.

Can you give to the church here in the United States. As far as staying faithful to Jesus Christ.

Regardless of what is ahead for us to question on the people who believe in the rapture wanting to escape tribulation. While it's true on the pattern of a know enough and his family from video the great flood and a lot of escaping from Solomon the more true principle that God delivers his people from a great distraction in tribulation, but he doesn't promise of escape from tribulation. You might do a little tea right the great encouragement, among many others in the book of Revelation. Again the message to the Seventh Circuit that he will overcome. I will grant all wonderful things are going to be fulfilled in the in the newer and filled the dictation and encouragement of the Lord through this and so the primary incentive and strength that we have of facing our persecution and tribulation well and we have to be realistic about it as you go through some of the details about what were going through in the United States in terms of turning away from Christianity. Some people have said that we are now in a post-Christian era. I think that's absolutely undeniable. You have even public officials now not even understanding what Christianity is and trying to make a big deal about how out of touch Christians are because they believe, for example, homosexuality is sinful and I think that's absolutely archaic and strange. What I more so ignorant in this nation and and what sorts of possibilities does that open up for us to pray that the Lord will revive this land once again and revive his church. Surely we always have the hope that the Lord will awaken his church once again and and bring new unbelievers into the kingdom as well. I would want you to that we are living in Christian era.

I know that we are in some respect. Maybe many respect, but as long as God holds open the possibility of repentance and turning away nation from evil promises of Jeremiah and Chronicles and so forth. And the New Testament messages to the seven churches is not a post-Christian Europe along with the potential to repent in the post-Christian Europe on the ultimately dogs with the rights of the antichrist right that's a really good point and I think that's encouraging to and it it's never over till it's over.

I think that there's always a tendency with Christians when the that they feel overwhelmed and II can fall into this a little bit myself at times right. Lord I there's nothing I can do. There's nothing I can do.

The world is just spiraling downward. It's never going to get any better, but we really fail to see the arc of history when we give up to Santelli time the right of Israel. We haven't mentioned but yes Israel have a new birth of nation 1948 and what's happening more recently, I think the present administration sympathetic support for Israel in various ways, such as recognizing Jerusalem at the capital and moving our embassy there recognizing controllably a visual of the Golan Heights and things like that are significant in light of two great figures of the Bible the first of the Old Testament promised Abraham in chapter 12 of Jonathan that of those nations that bless you I will bless those that harm you or curse you, I will first yes and then when we get to the prophetic portion again of element discourse. Matthew 25 Jesus in the parable of the sheep and the goats about going to separate all the nations in the end of the judgment into two categories, those who treated my people the least of these my brothers well and those who have not had the goats are those who have not, and they were going to be confined or confined to eternal torment forever, and those who have felt blessed and taken care of his people by the intern.

Therefore, that's reflecting on their treatment of Jesus himself will be blessed going to eternal life will look at where our nation of vendors, but no other nation in modern history that has been so supportive of Israel. Yes, significant reminder and not to give up, get on this country. I agree with you and and not only that but the recent seasonal countries that have come alongside Muslim nations to make peace with Israel. I mean that's huge. And the media has not made a bet big deal about that, but in my mind I'm thinking that nobody probably thought this could have been done even five years ago. All I very very company later today or the day before in regard to food. Yes, I think this is truly remarkable. I've been thinking on it a little bit but need to give a greater reflection and that again seems to be setting the stage for those kinds of events that will unfold during the great tribulation. Well, there's a lot to look forward to and I want to once again commend the book to you. It is called the apocalypse is coming.

The rise of the Antichrist.

The restrainer removed and Jesus Christ victorious at Armageddon, written by Dr. James to Jan just a wonderful deep dive into the Bible and telling you what you need to understand about what is coming because we know God's word is true, Dr. Jan Dion so good to have you with us.

Thank you very much for joining us and God bless you. Thank you. I want to remind the reader about some of the IDENTIFICATION on the back cover my book WW.anger.family RFL/James/thank you so much. Dr. D got my ceiling appreciate called God thanks for joining us


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