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Is America A Christian Nation?

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September 10, 2020 11:41 am

Is America A Christian Nation?

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September 10, 2020 11:41 am

Is America A Christian Nation?

Today Steve talks about the Theology of America's Founding! He covers questions like “How much of a role did a Christian worldview play? Who were our Founding Fathers? How were they raised? What did they think? What influenced their political philosophy?”  Buckle Up for this high-speed tour of the truth behind America's founding as a Christian Nation.


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Wake up everyone time for this noble show where biblical Christianity meets the everyday issues of life in your home, at work, and even in politics. Steve is an ordinary man who believes in an extraordinary God it on a show, there's plenty of grace and lots of true no sacred cow call Steve now 86 34 true 866-34-TRUTH or checking out online, Steve Noble now here's your host Steve Noble. This is very table the road because we are about God and really moving quickly today on theology.

Thursday we got up after chat Harvey will be back here in the studio next Thursday pastors at Harvey RFA church here in Raleigh North Carolina has been on a couple times in the last couple months. A great theologian great preacher and so next week working to do theology Thursday about God's providence is an interesting topic, especially in the season that were in God's providence and how do we deal with that is God in control of everything. What about free will. How do we come to manage all of that we think about that God's plan versus our plan what's going on in America who is the president who is in the present of what happens in our culture. What doesn't happen and how do you mingle all that into God's providence over to do that next week on theology Thursday and then after that were planning to weeks in a row on theology Thursday of end times theology eschatology if you want to use a kind of a fancy seminary type word but end times theology and you look at the different schools of thought there and then this theologian than a man to have on actors going to take a position that isn't has been real popular for the last hundred years used to be the norm and asking the question, at what point does the rapture happened is the church.

If you're a follower of Jesus Christ do like I am do you do we go through any period of the tribulation, that we can experience some of that the great tribulation. What happens with that the rapture of the church what's the big great and terrible day of the Lord all of those things. So working to do a couple weeks in a row on theology Thursday of end times theology is otherwise known as eschatology, but today I'm in teacher mode have been teaching all day. I school homeschoolers and I taught a class called foundations of freedom for the last eight years, which is a civics and Constitution class men right now in my classes. I've three of my five classes are that the other two classes are Christian ethics, and right now are were breaking into this conversation and am teaching them through kind of the theology of America's founding which starts with that question that we been asking for years.

Is America a Christian nation, and of course sometimes it all depends on what you mean by Christian nation what what is that mean who's asking the question and we tend to come down on one side of the other when it comes to the theology of America's founding and that's over talking about today on the show. So either a people go too far away from it and they say all the founding fathers were just a bunch of DS they really weren't that bad a religion as they certainly were in a much Bible thumpers and you guys are all dreaming you guys on the right you you Bible pumpers are all dreaming thinking that the founding fathers were a flock of a bunch of really intense committed Jesus followers. So that's one mistake which is terribly inaccurate.

But on the other and sometimes and I think David Barton who who I respect and end up look up to in many different ways.

In some ways I think he goes too far like he wrote a whole book on Thomas Jefferson being a Christian just because Thomas Jefferson settings aggression doesn't mean he is a Christian because did you know that Thomas Jefferson will. Here's a couple problems didn't believe Jesus was virgin born didn't believe that he rose from the grave didn't believe that he was actually a deity, a member of the of the Trinity. I didn't believe in any of Jesus's miracles.

So you throw all that stuff out. You can call yourself a Christian, but are you really but that's just one example. Okay Thomas Jefferson's leader, we tend to deify in many ways the founding fathers or we tend to turn them into just about to DS or agnostics which is remarkably inaccurate.

So I'm in a run you through the course of the show kind of the theology of our founding fathers. There's a great quote this theater Roosevelt gets fascinating around 1901 theater Roosevelt said, every thinking man when he thinks, realizes that the teachings of the Bible are so interwoven and entwined with our whole civic and social life that it would be literally and I do not mean figuratively, but literally impossible for us to figure what that loss would be these teachings were removed.

That was Theodore Roosevelt in 1901, talking about the Bible all the teachings of the Bible and the fabric of American life. The Constitution Declaration of Independence what it means to be America that there's so interwoven that you literally can't even figure out what it would look like to time to try to take that cake apart. Okay so this is that the fascinating conversations from Theodore Roosevelt, a great quote from 19 oh so if we can understand the theology of America's founding. We actually don't start in 1776. We don't start in the great awakening, although we'll talk about that. We have to go all the way back to the Reformation before America was America even before the Puritans, otherwise known as pilgrims came here yeah calling back the Reformation only back to 1570 okay what was going on there. Martin Luther obviously had a problem with the Catholic Church had a problem with indulgences posted his 95 theses to the wall and so this was the birth of Protestantism, but it was also the birth or perhaps a rebirth of religious liberty because what happened is conflict and arose across Europe as the Catholics and the Protestants classed as Protestantism grew in life we got got to be really hard for those outside the Catholic Church okay in the meantime, this is all set in motion when the Reformation start in 1517. In the meantime, the new world is discovered, get us on the other side of the pond across the Atlantic.

There is this what looks to be an incredible place where people could moved and start a new life and so you go forward as a way to escape religious persecution. That's why they went so when you look at the original Puritan settlers, which we call the pilgrims right you get all that vision in your head, and I do this with my students and like I say pilgrims what you think of what they have the big crazy hat with a big buckle on it to get a big belt buckle.

They were brown and white and black and they have the big Thanksgiving feast and all that so we tend to look at him in a very kind of a limited way, but what they actually were were absolutely they were religious separatists may impose worldliness. They prose weakness in the church in England and there like we just want to be all to worship free of persecution, free of the power the Catholic Church. We just want religious freedom and sorghum mover to risk our lives and were to sail across the Atlantic in order to escape worldliness and weakness in the church and in order to find true religious freedom.

That's why they came that you came here first that both of the big three at two different Americans. Yet the New York Times version 1619 down in Jamestown and they were that was the Boettcher's a nasty legal North ending at the pilgrims who are Puritans in their hair, and December 26, 1620 right and so the Mayflower compact was a big deal back to how we get to govern ourselves.

The Mayflower compact the step establishes a temporary government and got had an agreement with his people is belied agreement with each other, you know, we call that a social contract that government by the consent of the governed is not so familiar to get up there we come back okay welcome back were moving fast today theology Thursday looking at the theology of America's founding American founding fathers and you look a bunch of different things there. And I'm taking you to the material that I teach high school age homeschoolers. I wanted to teach his class actually for adults is small, but things are so crazy and trying to find a place in the and restrictions and all that stuff.

So I shelved that idea here in Raleigh for the fall. I still want to do it in the spring so if I can do it in the spring of we can find a place were on the other side is covert stuff. The country still standing but I would love to find a location might be a church something the thing like that and then condense a two semester course which is one 1 1/2 hour class a week but essentially two semester course into one semester and one night a week. That's what I wanted to and condense it down because I want to have more time for conversation and cut back and forth with a bunch of adults in the room that'll be necessary and beneficial so I want to do that in the spring so I'll let you know. But today just giving you odd were drilling down to just one aspect of all these things and I teach and have been taught for years. When we look at the theology of America, the theology of America's founding. How much of a role did Christianity place we started in 1517, with the Reformation, the tradition of dissent, religious persecution led to a driver religious liberty, which is why the pilgrims came over here.

They were Puritans. They were religious separatists.

That's why they came that started okay.

That's what was first thing you Jamestown which was south. That's what the New York Times tried to do with their 60 19th they may go to Jamestown which was the Boettcher assay in all countries founded on nothing but slavery, which is a lot wasn't there. Yes, was significant. Yes, but to say that the backbone of it is ridiculous.

Just it's an apt an ally. Okay, so Puritans okay here.

There so what did they say this. This is vastly John went to the first governor all way back in the 1600s okay late 1620s, we shall be as a city upon a hill. The eyes of all people are upon us so that we shall deal falsely with our God. In this work we have undertaken and so cause him to withdraw his present help from us, we shall be made and store in a byword through the world is John worth one trip. The governor there that first group of people in the late 1620s okay what is that sound like to you sitting on a hill where that come from what God you think or talk about this is rich in biblical language because these people were serious hard-core Puritan Christians okay and they saw this as a mission field that they're going to be an example of Christianity to a watching world here in the New World and if we've undertaken and so cause him to withdraw his present help from us. God, we shall be made a story and a byword through the world will be a joke so they were all about glorifying God and religious freedom. When they came. That's that's the foundation that's the soil out of which the rest of the story comes okay so important to remember that, and then look at something like they tell me if this could get past today be old to looter same act of 1647. Could you imagine that hey governor Cooper given idea down here in the legislature here in North Carolina we went past the old illiteracy next one. What is that I was a natural law passed in 1647, so if you have houses and churches and schools shown up in your in your city. If you're a few little towns getting big enough. Only 1647 okay were not that far into the American experiment that if you have enough people coming out then you got a bill the school and he got a bill school because your people have to learn how to read and they have to be able to read because they need to be able to as your society grows.

They need to be able to read the Bible right need to be will read the Bible so this was built since the DNA out of which our country's growing that you have to understand the Bible. If you have a society because your people have to have morals on the up ever religious underpinning, that being Christianity day so the teaching reading to kids and you remember ever seeing this, the new non-perimeter. This is what.

Check this out. They were using this for 1st to 4th graders in the mid-1600s here in the New World. The New England primer. These are the words check this out is the words that their teaching the 1st to 4th graders, a company benevolent ceremony discontented everlasting fidelity glorifying humility, infirmity, admiration, beneficial consolation declaration, expectation, fornication generation, habitation, imitation 1st to 4th grade right that's college level stop today then you flip the page and they have some pictures that check out the theology that their teaching in these pictures as you learn the ABC a and Adam's fall we send all okay that'll preach be that I like to amend this book. B.

Attend picture of a booklet but do you think that is class. That's right, the Bible see the cop that the play and after sleigh.

I'm hoping that means BUT we'll save that for another day.Ian Eagles flight is out of sight.

F. The idle fool is whipped at school like yeah I like that one.

Okay, here's some of ads runs the glass man's life does pass think theology my broken heart shall never part will poker they talk about the Bible.

Joe feels the rod and blesses God this with her teaching a person fourth grade. Joe feels around and blesses God. Remember what Job said, though he slay me. Still, I will trust in him great theology at the youngest age. The lion pulled the limbs off hold that's going on in first through fourth grade. In the mid-1600s. Then we start to create colleges that doesn't take long, either in the late 1600s, so these are all homages share with you some Ivy League mottoes from the late 1600s, the most liberal schools in America today.

Check this out Brown University. What's their motto at the time in God we help Columbia University and I like shall we see the light Princeton University under God's power.

She flourishes University of Pennsylvania laws without morals are useless. Yale University light and truth.

Harvard check this out Harvard University 1646 rules and precepts every quote, everyone shall consider the main end of his life and studies to know God and Jesus Christ which is eternal life, seeing the Lord giveth wisdom, everyone shall seriously by prayer in secret.

Seek wisdom of him. That's Harvard rules and precepts 1646 so as you move forward in time. These are the educational institutions from first grade all the way through college absolutely inculcated the biblical view and teaching the Bible and Bible theology. Okay, absolutely. So who comes through that system will that would be the founding fathers. That's how they're being raised okay from the late 1600s into the 1700s, but then things started to slip a little in the mid-1700s will talk about that next with the great awakening, but then people point to like so many like Benjamin Franklin in the Goa Benjamin Franklin.

He was just a Deist. That's God creates everything winds it up and then goes on vacation to Tahiti and the other part of the universe doesn't have any personal involvement. That's a Deist guy people like to say that want to say hey Christianity didn't have much to do with the country.

Look at Benjamin Franklin. He was a Deist overly be read to you what Benjamin Franklin said in front of the assembly when they're talking about the Constitution and the beginning of the contents of Great Britain when we were sensible of danger. We had daily prayer in this room for the divine protection D. P our prayers. There were hurt and they were graciously answered all of us who are engaged in the struggle must of observed frequent instances of the superintending Providence in our favor and have we now forgotten that powerful friend or two.

Imagine that we no longer need his assistance. I have live sir a long time, and the longer I live the more convincing proofs I see this truth that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid. We been assurance in the sacred writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build cash.

Where did you get that that's unfamiliar to me.

I firmly believe Benjamin Franklin said this and I also believe that without his concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel. I therefore beg leave to move that henceforth prayers, imploring the assistance of heaven and its blessings on our deliberations be held in this assembly every morning before we proceed to business and that one or more of the clergy of the city be requested to officiate in that service. But what see what about the separation of church and state doesn't exist.

Benjamin Franklin D is a constitutional convention. That's part of the theology of America will be rep America Christian nation is a Christian nation. The 330 million people here are three and 30 million of them is not is the founding of the founding fathers Christians will mostly and it depends on how you define Christian is the Declaration of Independence a Christian document will is heavily influenced by group Christian worldview by biblical worldview. I'd say on a scale from 1 to 10, 10 being God wrote himself and one being there's nothing Christian about the document whatsoever. I'd say the six or seven Christian influence on the Declaration of Independence is God mentioned in the company times of God mentioned in the U.S. Constitution. God G creator C.

Many times is that many times you see that the U.S. Constitution that would be zero. However, there's a lot about our form of governance that relies on came out a strong biblical worldview, not the least of which is the, the doctrine of sin human depravity. Our tendency to do bad things that work on a bent toward sin, which is why Lord Acton said power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So no way we can centralize too much power, sorting and three branches were in a federalism of the federal government that were to try to keep small and the remote allow a lot of room to run for the state governments lot independence there so federalism and three branches of government and checks and balances and all that stuff.

Our founding fathers were great students of history, they look at democracy as a gift was given birth in Athens and in Rome they look at it through the middle ages. They look the feudal system, what worked, what didn't work.

Do we want a pure democracy. You do not go on a regular democracy because that's just majority rules.

Who's going to protect the minority and that nobody, by the way, why we did you even care about the minority will. That's based on human dignity and the image of God, which is biblical. That's God's truth and that informed our founding fathers as they were raised in that and when they established our form of government. A representative republic. Democratic Republic it takes all that into account. So Christianity, a Christian worldview, Judeo-Christian worldview as the soil out of which a lot of most of the stuff comes gay but it's takes a conversation. That's why it takes me a couple weeks to teach this in my classes today. I'm dumping it all on you and one one-hour show, which means 40 minutes of talk time on the radio okay so we started in the 1500s at the Reformation. We went in the 1620s and now you got the Puritans coming over now. We pushed through the end of the 1600s.

You see what that all of their college institutions. The Ivy League schools today.

Back then were very Christ centered, very, but biblical centered course they went up the rail. Since then that's a whole another story for another day. They were pushing into the 1700s are trying to get ourselves to 1776 and in the 1787 and 1789 1776, the Declaration of Independence, the start of the war for independence.

1787 when we came together in a constitutional convention to write the Constitution, 1789 when it was ratified okay that's that's were donors were working ourselves through the timeline in order to understand what's the theology of America's founding. That's what I'm doing here today theology. There is so we come through that they're being educated first grade through fourth grade incredible vocabulary credible theology.

Colleges are all bent around a Christian worldview then things start to decline.

Okay, a lot of materialism, rationalism, the great, the enlightenment thinking that we were pretty smart. We can figure this out.

We don't need God. We don't need the Bible and Lightman's in there. It's coming over from Europe so that's impacting life in America, then, that brings us to 1734 which was the beginning of the first great awakening. Have you ever heard of Jonathan Edwards.

That name sinners in the hands of a angry God. Right.

Not exactly a seeker sensitive method method or message, but Jonathan Edwards just starts preaching this thing over and over again and like entire little towns are falling down all over themselves because of their sin. It's a brutal message. Essentially, if you don't know God.

If you're not in Christ. If you're lost, you are in the hands of an angry God is angry at you because your sent and your like a spider. At the end of a spider web and God is dangling you over the fires of hell. The only thing separating you from the fires of hell. At any given moment is the patience and the grace of an angry God. Okay, that's the story, not exact. Try that one this Sunday at your church. See what happens. But he starts preaching that in great awakening the awakening breaks out and people are getting converted in coming to Christ changing entire towns. Then George Whitfield comes over the great British evangelists.

He preached from New England down to Georgia.

He did seven tours of America and he hammered sin, but he also hammered the preachers listen to what he said I am fairly persuaded.

This is George with.

I am very, fairly persuaded the generality of preachers here in America is talking about talk of an unknown unfelt Christ and the reason why congregations have been so dead is because dead men preach to them well shots fired right Whitfield comes over George with Bill comes over preaching the gospel and laying waste to a compromised priesthood pastors. Here congregations are dead because your pastors are dead right huge and the great awakening breaks out. Do you think as the country was engaged in more enlightenment thinking, materialism, rationalism, the 1730s. Do you think a divided secular nation would be ready in 1776 to declare war against the world's lone superpower.

No, not even possible.

You cannot get the American Revolution done or even engaged without the first great awakening without the first great awakening got nothing, got nothing to work with in America probably wouldn't exist but it did happen.

There is a huge impact church membership increased as increased missionary activity. Indians and frontiersmen were being reached Dartmouth College was started in 1754 specifically for Indians that were becoming Christians and for missionaries that were going to the Indians than a guy named David Brainerd was a missionary. The Indians published as diary was like a bestseller. Back then meant God was doing something serve the awakening impact of higher education. Princeton was established in 1746 Passing at Princeton.

Okay I Princeton yet some people that came there to start teaching and yet somebody that wrote a good chunk of the Constitution went there as a student so negative that the gates of the great awakenings happening that's awesome. 1766. In 1775.

Now Great Britain starts to flex its muscles. King George III's coming to power. He's like yeah you guys up at it too easy for too long.

You guys are doing well. You're making a lot of money over there in the colonies. When you little more that action is to get the stamp act, the Townsend act. That was where we got taxation without representation by the way, it wasn't the size of the tax or like the tea party in Boston.

It wasn't the size of the tax. It was taxation without representation which the problem so were losing under King George III started to reassert the power the crown were losing our political liberty, which for an astute pastorate here in America and astute Americans who are educated well in the Bible saw that if you lose your political liberty friends.

What else are you gonna lose the very thing that brought the Puritans here in the first place. Religious liberty. If we lose our political liberty. That means were to lose our religious summary and then refight words 1774. The Qubec act on behalf of the French settlers in Canada privileged status to Roman Catholicism and their worried now all boys and we can start running to the problem that they have in England and in the and in Europe were all of a sudden the church is totally in bed with the governments in bed. That's a problem. So things are steaming up right armament passes the intolerable acts they close Boston Harbor. They nullify the Massachusetts charter government.

There's peacetime quartering of British soldiers which means they can show up at your house and say what's for dinner. You have to take a minute take care of them.

This place is getting bad fast threats to liberty then begin to sound from the pulpits with our patriot pastors. Chief among them is a Virginia pastor Peter Muilenburg in 1776 is what he said there is a time to preach and a time to pray but there is also a time to fight and that time has come right out of Ecclesiastes time for peace in time for work right Muilenburg by the way, became a major general who served under George Washington.

A pastor many got Rev. John Witherspoon.

This is going to ties back to Princeton. John Rev. John Witherspoon was the president of the College of New Jersey at Princeton who taught James Madison. It's a great little thread to pull in here Witherspoon teaches James Madison and Witherspoon within the Congo Congress and was also a sign of the Declaration of Independence, but what about James Madison, James Madison, and they called him the old Dr. John Witherspoon Witherspoon became like his mentor at Princeton, Witherspoon emphasized the gospel is introducing students like Alec James Madison to great political thinkers like John Locke and Montesquieu, and John Locke.

By the way, the number one political influencer of all the founding fathers in terms of his writings, and specifically in terms for Thomas Jefferson the normal and political influence.

Political philosopher Jefferson of the founding fathers, John Locke, you go read John Locke's self. That guy was a hard-core committed serious Christian unbelievable. I mean real entire commentaries in the book of Romans goes unbelievable. So what's Witherspoon teaching James Madison that God is sovereign is the source of all law created universal physical laws to maintain the cosmic order and the cretin created man under the natural law to maintain moral order. That's where we get that phrase that you probably know the law of nature and nature's God, right see all the stuff get baked into the cake. All this is going into our founding fathers.

Then there able to fight a Revolutionary war and win it okay, so Madison himself. James Madison, when you read his writings, I would describe him as an evangelical, but he definitely had a rocksolid biblical worldview and its context was dictated by what he learned his understanding of man government. Madison said the Constitution recognize get this degree of depravity in mankind, which requires a certain degree of circumspection distrust word-of-mouth and get that that's a doctrine that Christianity is theology Thursday. Considering the theology of America's founding of America Christian nation, we were just talking about this off-line on Facebook lives you want to join us here in the radio each day do that on Facebook. Just go to the Steve Noble show page on Facebook and if you like tasty but what's wrong with your voice.

Well, this is like the fourth hour teaching is done today so I'm getting to the end of my rope with this is a part of the con that the Constitution and civics course that I've been teaching for years for high school homeschoolers. I wanted to do one this fall for adults in the evening like Tuesday, Wednesday, Tuesday or Thursday night here in Raleigh. We were in a Facebook live that as well. The B&W cost to it.

You know, because we have starving kids that we need to feed and but good with COBIT and everything else just this is too much for this semester, so I definitely am going to reboot and try to do that. Coming in January, so if we do it it would be one a week be about an hour and 1/2 maybe two hour class once a week and we do, probably 14 or 15 weeks in a row where I would basically do my entire civics Constitution class for you and one semester really more time for conversation because it's a bunch of adults and there you guys are to talk more than students do, but man, it is so fascinating invigorating. It's a huge problem in our lives.

I saw this article just the other day only put up on my phone. I saw this article just the other day that was talking about. Most people most of us. This is an NBC NBC Most of us would fail the US citizenship test survey finds embarrassments as the president of the Woodrow Wilson National Fellowship foundation, which conducted the survey think you know your US history and government. Why does the flag of 13 stripes. What are the three branches of government who did the United States fight World War II. I know you're thinking oh that's easy. A new poll shows that only a little over 1/3 of Americans would pass a basic multiple-choice US citizenship test modeled after the one taken by immigrants in the process of naturalization.

The survey released October 3 last fall by the Woodrow Wilson National Fellowship foundation assembled a thousand American adults. It showed that only 36% actually passed the test. Respondent 65 and older scored the best 74%, while only 19% of testtakers 45 and younger passed 19% 45 and younger so they include people, 35 up to 45 but if we go under 35 minutes 10% at best.

We have a massive massive disconnect in this country. Massive ignorance about civics the Constitution and what I'm taking you through today. The Christian influence strong observable, provable Christian influence on the founding of this nation, not just the Declaration of Independence but in a lot of elements of the Constitution itself which flowed in came out of the soil of the Christian worldview. And most people are just clueless. The survey asked about everything from important dates to historical figures and current events. Only 13% new on the US Constitution was written. What year do you know what year is a written trick question really it's the year was written then in the year it was ratified. It was written during the Constitutional convention in 1787, then it took into 1789 for it to get ratified. They needed at least nine of the 13 colonies day more than half of those surveyed did not know which countries the US fought against the wall were to and you wonder why our young people are flirting with socialism. 57% didn't know how many justices on the Supreme Court. Do you I bet you do. I trick question. I trick question.

How many justices does the Constitution say are supposed to be on the US Supreme Court.

How many justices of the Constitution say are supposed be in the US Supreme Court.

I'm just throwing this out one for my friends on Facebook live will suit you guys do okay how many justices of the United States Constitution say are supposed be on the US Supreme Court and you know how many we have today. How many how many of you, but you know this right. Nine but what is the Constitution say was the Constitution say about how many justices are supposed to be in the US Supreme Court dropped the answer.

Nothing the U.S. Constitution says nothing about how many justices on the US Supreme Court, zero, zip, Nada that it became kind of a number 33 with 33 make sense.

No, that's too many with three make sense what Scott asked like that, but know that doesn't make any sense either. Let me ask another question. Do you know how many amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

Do you how many amendments how many amendments are there to the U.S. Constitution. How many I know is at least 10.

Steve right what we call those person correct Bill of Rights good, but how many other total 27.

Do you know this is funny some funny constitutional trivia.

Do you know when the 20 some of them and that was passed, who was president when the 27th amendment was passed it's Bill Clinton. What was the 20 some of the moment. The 27th amendment to the U.S. Constitution says that by law when the when the Congress votes for itself a pay raise.

It cannot go into effect until after the next election. Great idea right because if they voted themselves a pay raise. Like right now, and then gave it to them next week gave to themselves next week when you do about that. They did already go anywhere awesome.

Let's give ourselves a 30% pay raise, and improve next week for an act right you would have no repercussion so this puts it on the other side of the election they have to tell you before the next election were giving ourselves a 30% pay raise and you'd be like these dirtbags. I'm in a vote. All of you out but they wouldn't actually touch that until after the next election. See the beauty of that are under Clinton. That's on the 27th amount was actually finally passed, but when was it first put it when did somebody suggest the contents of the 27th amendment. Do you know 1950 1875, 1800. It was like 1791. It took 200 years to pass. What would become the 27th amendment is a great idea. Back then, but even back then they they didn't have the willpower to do it.

They didn't want to check themselves. The 27th amendment was first brought up in the late 1700s and wasn't passed until the 1990s, under Bill Clinton pretty funny right know what he knows this stuff nobody which is why I teach it again on finishing up this conversation with you your my class for the hour to just a few more things are talking to James Madison who wrote most of the Constitution was a collective thing, but medicine tend a lot of it and Madison went to Princeton where he was mentored by John Weatherspoon John Witherspoon hard-core Christian taught political philosophy using thinkers like John Locke and Montesquieu John Locke hard-core Christian only sold-out Christian amazing man to look up John Locke's amazing and this is what he taught. God is sovereign in the source of all the created order. The created universe with physical laws to maintain cosmic order and created man God created man in the natural law to maintain moral order. That's where he got the phrase the law of nature and nature's God, right Madison when you look at his own writing.

See what he said see what he thought I would describe him as an evangelical, but he definitely had a rocksolid biblical worldview and his contacts was dictated by what he had learned in the philosophies of not just Locke and Montesquieu, but Paul and James and Peter and Jesus and Moses and the prophets install all of its and their Madison said the Constitution is what I finish with less segment, the Constitution itself, which doesn't mention God doesn't mention the Bible doesn't mention Jesus doesn't mention creator C. Madison set at the Constitution recognized quote a degree of depravity and mankind, which requires a certain degree of circumspection and distrust. Unquote what is that sound like that is the doctrine of sin that so that it human depravity. Okay that's all baked into the cake. So, in the final analysis as we look at the theology of America's founding is what I finish the class with the final analysis, American society in the past was not completely Christian but was largely God-fearing, God-fearing and immense respect for the Bible as the greatest source of wisdom on the planet. They weren't deists. They understood that God governs in the affairs of men.

Biblical span standards help dictate public morals, judicial decisions and social values.

That's the soil out of which all these people came there were three main impacts personal liberty. The tradition of dissent in the pervasive influence of Scripture personal liberty. Why does that matter to germane the image of God, you inestimable worth you have free will, self-determination all underneath the banner of a overarching powerful judging loving God and the knee at the tradition of dissent that started with Martin Luther when there's something wrong when there's something immoral going on. You need to stand up against it for the good of mankind.

The tradition of dissent. If you have a knowledge of something bad going on. You have a responsibility to act was that, love your neighbor as yourself. That's biblical to the core and in the pervasive influence of Scripture starting in first grade all the way through college. It was all over the place. When I wrote my research paper in the Declaration of Independence. I have a two-volume set of actual sermons preached by patriotic pastors in the colonies between 1730 and 1790 in these got circulated. These are some of the most these would been like the big podcast of the day and they're just thundering God's providence, the individual worth of mankind. Equality and that was flooding into the colonists thinking and minds in Thomas Jefferson's job in writing with the declaration which if you read what he said he Thomas Jefferson wasn't gonna go lock myself in a room and write what I think Thomas Jefferson's job in the Declaration of Independence was to distill the thinking of his fellow colonists.

What's our rationale here whereabouts of the clear war against the greatest superpower in the planet we better have a pretty good reason in a better come from the ultimate authority was just reflecting back accurate what the American experience was 1776, which was heavily influenced by a Judeo-Christian worldview. Unbelievable. Martin Luther, the Reformation personal liberty and is accepted God directly, and therefore had certain unalienable rights, that came from God rather than man. The Reformation prodded much of this kind of thinking behind American defendants say the theology of America's founding place. That should encourage got a no appreciate this is Steve Noble and Steve Noble show, God willing, I'll talk to you again real soon. That always is

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