MON HR 1 072423

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I can tune into your show and hear the unvarnished truth. Thank you. This is What's Right, What's Left with Pastor Ernie Sanders. Good evening and welcome to another edition of What's Right, What's Left on this 24th day of July. Boy, summer is flying by, 2023. And tonight we have in the very capable hands of Derek Venus.

He's there tonight on the board because they made him stay there late. So, hey Derek. Howdy. Alright, there you go.

Howdy. And we have way out yonder, you know the legendary, the legend, the Missouri man, none other than Pastor Joe Larson. Well, like one of my famous philosophers Puff the Magic Dragon once said, we muddle through. We do, we do. We do sometimes. And so we got Derek here to help us tonight. Oh, we need that.

Alright, there you go. Now, but we have a lot to talk about tonight. But you know, before we even get started, Joe, today I made a trip to Columbus, Ohio, to the Franklin Medical Center. And I picked up the belongings and the ashes of Andre Magruder. Andre was a prison inmate. But he was a very long time friend. I met Andre back in 1958.

And in 1985, you just reverse those numbers, in 1985 I led him to the Lord. Well, Andre and I, we were, we had a long time, a long time relationship. Unfortunately, Andre chose a life of crime. And of course, I went in the other direction. And here, he had a very, very tough childhood.

I mean an extremely tough childhood, growing up. And Andre had, again, it was like there was, since I'd known him, it was always like there was a dark cloud over his head. The trouble just naturally seemed to follow Andre. And one day, Joe, I owned those furniture stores.

I came into one early in the morning and it was dark. And I heard a whippering and a crying sound. And now Andre was the guy, and we used to prank each other all the time.

We would pull pranks at each other. And he, I went in and I saw him sitting at my desk and he was crying. And I thought, okay, what's he up to now?

He's up to something here, right? He was, I thought it was another prank. But when I got turned on the light, there it was. The Bible was open and he was crying real tears. And I said, what is it, what's wrong with you? And he pointed his finger to Romans chapter 7. He said, here, this is me, right here, this is me. And it was the apostle Paul. And he was saying the things I hate is what I do and the things I want to do, you know, I can't do. Paul was talking about this sin that dwelt within him. He said, this is me.

He said, everything that I hate, that's what I do. And anyhow, Andre had gone to prison. And in that prison, after his conversion, he was a whole different person.

I mean, a completely different person. And in the prison system, he helped to lead others to the Lord. You'd have to have known Andre. For one thing about Andre, he was one way or the other. He wasn't phony. He wasn't like so many are today, phony. But anyhow, a few years ago, about two years or three years ago, Andre was obviously, if I've known him that long, he was an elderly man, like you, Joe. And what happened was, Andre was a good Christian man. And he actually had a colostomy on his side, like I said, in the prison system. At one point years ago, he called me and said, I need some help.

I'm not getting any treatment. And he was bleeding from the rectum. And they were given in Preparation H. And I called over to talk to the prison doctor. And the prison doctor told me, you stick to your preaching, and I'll stick to my medical.

Well, I didn't care too much for that, and I reported him. They fired him, and here it was found out that Andre had cancer. And he had been trying for the longest time. He had rectal cancer and ended up holding cancer. He had been trying for almost a year to get some help. And then he finally asked me to help him. And so anyhow, he ended up in the hospital with a colostomy on his side.

And when you have a colostomy on the side, you're supposed to have a cell of your own. Well, he was over at the Grafton prison, and for a long time he did have a cell for himself. But then they put a young professing Satanist, a Satanist, in the cell with this Christian man. And this young Satanist told him, as soon as you fall asleep, I'm going to kill you. Well, Andre, you know, you can't stay awake forever, did fall asleep, and he tried to kill him. Even though Andre had reported that, they wouldn't take the Satanist out of the cell. So for the last two, almost three years, Andre has been in the hospital, and he had major brain damage in there. But even with that, he still had, I don't want to say joyful, but he was still... Enjoying the Lord.

Yeah. And we went to visit him. He didn't actually recognize some of his old friends that visited him.

You know, for 45 years we visited inmates in all the prisons. But anyhow, Andre finally, on the day that we were to visit him, no I'm sorry, it wasn't. We were to visit him a week ago last Monday, and he was so happy.

When he found out he was going to get a visit, he was so happy. But unfortunately, the Saturday before Monday, at 10 o'clock in the morning, the warden called me to tell me that Andre had just passed away. And that was a sad thing. So I want to just say, he had no funeral, because that's not the way they do things in the prison system anymore. It used to be, Joe, we would have those that didn't have any family members would get married on Boot Hill, or buried on Boot Hill, and I would go and do their funeral. I buried a lot of men up on Boot Hill. But at least they had a funeral service.

At least there was somebody there, and all the other inmates dug the grave and put them in their pine box and buried them. But they quit doing that. They don't even do that anymore. It's just like we're living in a world that's becoming more and more cruel all the time. But anyhow... Well, you and I have been telling people the world is regressing. It's not progressing, it's regressing.

Yeah. And he had, now, Andre committed terrible crimes, but nothing, not even close to what he was accused of. I was called in as a witness to his trial, and I could tell you there couldn't have been the judge and the prosecutor. I ran the prosecutor at that time. I ran him out of Ohio, because the corruption... He actually came to me downstairs in the courthouse, actually came to me and asked me to get on the witness stand and lie, so he could get a conviction, because it was election time, and Andre was known as a, you know, as the bad man of the county. And so the prosecutor, Craig Albert, actually came and asked me to perjure myself on the stand, which I refused to do. And eventually I ran him out of Ohio.

He couldn't take it. And I don't want to get into the judge's family, too, because he, too, was corrupted. And, I mean, the whole case was, in fact, Andre's lawyer's name was Paul Newman, and he said to me, you know, you were the only one in the courtroom that wasn't lying.

Understand? Now, that's something, but anyhow, I just want to say, Andre, your friends and our condolences, you have friends and your friends missed you, and if there's anybody knows where there's any family members of Andre left, he had me down, and this is next to kin, because he had no one else to put, if there's any family members out there, I have all of his possessions, ten boxes full of his possessions, and his ashes, so if there's any family members out there, you can try to contact me at the church, 440-338-1367. But rest in peace, my friend, rest in peace, you had a very tough life, but the tough life is over now, and I know that you wanted to be home, go home and be with the Lord, and how much, how very much you wanted to hear those words, well done, my good and faithful servant. And so, that's my send-off to my old friend, Andre. Let's get into the scripture, Joe.

The title of the message is, do you remember? A.I. versus A.U.I., or in English, Artificial Intelligence versus Absolute Ultimate Intelligence. And we know there's only one Absolute Ultimate Intelligence, right? Right, and that is God and God's Word. Let's start today in 1 Samuel chapter 2, would you read verses 1-3 and then pause?

Alright. And Hannah prayed and said, My heart rejoices in the Lord, mine horn is exalted in the Lord, my mouth is enlarged over mine enemies, because I rejoice in thy salvation. There is none holy as the Lord, for there is none besides thee, neither is there any rock like our God.

Talk no more, so exceedingly proudly. Let not arrogance come out of your mouth, for the Lord is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed. Now, Hannah, Joe, was a remarkable, remarkable woman with a very, very remarkable love for God. And that was a result of the knowledge that God had given her of himself. And, you know, here it's an interesting thing, because actually the Virgin Mary quoted Hannah. And so here now, if you go out and pick it up, and what she was talking about, talk no more exceedingly proudly.

Let not your arrogance come out of your mouth, for the Lord is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed. Joe, you have the people like, men like Klaus Schwab, George Soros, Bill Gates, and now Joe Biden has come out and referred to himself as AI. And they refer to themselves in a foolish, foolish, you know, Joe did gesture. And here now, people like, well, I would call the ultimate fool, and that is that Yuval Harari, that Yuval Harari.

He is Klaus Schwab's right hand man, if you will. He made statements like, if you people think that there's a Jesus that lives beyond the clouds up there, and it's going to come and take you to heaven someday, you people are fools. We, the only God that exists are we, people, mankind, and so here, what Hannah was saying is, you know, you fools, God's listening. He has total knowledge of everything you say and do. In fact, not only does he have knowledge, Joe, of what they're going to say and do, he has the knowledge before they do it, huh?

Yep, he knew what they were going to do before they did. All right, read verses four through six. The bows of the mighty men are broken, and they that stumbled are girded with strength. They that were full have hired out themselves for bread, and they that were hungry ceased, so that the barren hath borne seven, and she that hath many children is waxed feeble.

How far did you say to go? Six, the next verse. The Lord killeth and maketh alive, he bringeth down to the grave and bringeth up. Joe, he, she was talking to results of people that were arrogant and people that were rebellious against God, unrepentant against God, and why they had it, why they were, why they were so full of themselves, where it says they were full, they that were full have hired themselves for bread. In other words, God is dealing with them, but then she says this, the Lord killeth and maketh alive, he bringeth down to the grave and bringeth up. Now, up to this time, Joe, no one had ever died and God had not resurrected anybody.

No one had been resurrected from the dead up to this time. But she knew that God could do that. Well, how did she know that? Do you think maybe she might have had a hit if you turn over to Genesis 22 and read verse 5? Genesis 22, verse 5. And Abram, Abraham said unto his young men, abide ye here with the ass, and I and the lad will go yonder in worship and come again to you. All right, so now, he was telling these young men as he took Isaac upon the mountain, don't worry, how did he know? What was it that Abraham knew that if he sacrificed Isaac, that God would raise him from the dead? It must have been called the thing called faith in God that God wouldn't just take away. If he was obedient, God wouldn't make him suffer in obedience. Well, there was more than that. Remember, God had made him a promise that through Isaac, he was going to be the father of many nations. And so here... So God can't lie, so therefore Isaac couldn't have been killed or at least that he was killed had to be resurrected. Right.

I'm going to jump over real quick. There's another example here I just thought of in the book of Job. Now again, at this time, there had never been in Abraham's day and Hannah's day and Job's day anyone resurrected from the dead.

But over in Job, here's what Job says in Job 19. For I know that my redeemer liveth and that he shall stand at the later day upon the earth. And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God, whom I shall see for myself. And mine eyes shall behold, and not another, though my reigns be consumed within me. And so Job, he too, knew that there was going to be a resurrection of the dead, huh? Yeah, hadn't thought about it, for I know my redeemer liveth, not from my skin worms, and yet in my flesh shall I see God. After death he would see God. That's resurrection, isn't it?

Absolutely. So here now, we go on and we pick it up. The Lord maketh poor and maketh rich, he bringeth low and lifted up. He raises up the poor out of the dust, and lifted up the bigger from the dug hill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory. For the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he has set the world upon them. Job, this is the only place in the Bible that that term is used.

It's very unique, the pillars of the earth, okay? He will keep the feet of his saints, the wicked shall be silent in darkness, for by strength shall no man prevail. The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces. Out of heaven shall he thunder upon them, and the Lord shall judge the ends of the earth, and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed. So here, Hannah knew a few things about God that he had revealed to her. First, about his omnipotence, that he had no equal, okay? And also, his omnipresence, as she says, he's always there, to the ends of the earth. The Lord shall judge the ends of the earth. And then, of course, of the omniscience, when she said, the Lord is a God of knowledge.

So she was aware of all three. Didn't he also say, and he shall give strength to his king, and exalt the horns of his anointed? Wasn't Jesus the anointed one? Absolutely, well let's do that. So we also have, you know, she's also talking about the coming of the Messiah.

Absolutely. Now you have here, verse 2, there is none holy as the Lord. So whenever that term, the Lord, is used, that's always referring to the second person of the Trinity, God the Son.

Then it says, and there's none besides thee, neither is there any rock like our God. So when the term God is used, okay, that refers to the Trinity, the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Now, when the Father is used, it's referring specifically to the Father, and when the Holy Spirit is referred. So here, he refers in that passage to both the Father and the Son. God the Father and the Son, huh? Son, yeah.

Alrighty, very good. And so, I wanted to just say, the natural man, Joe, apart from God, does not seek God. He, you know, unless God turns, how many times have you heard people say, well, it was then in that year that I found the Lord. But nobody has ever found the Lord, have they? The Lord, well, depends on how you mean that.

Well, no. God's always found us. Well, to be found, you have to be lost, don't you? Yeah. Was the Lord ever lost?

No. Well, then no one can ever find him now. The Lord, were we lost? We have been lost, yes.

We've lost our way, lost all kinds of things. But no man seeketh after the Lord. If you turn to Romans chapter 3, Romans chapter 3, and we're running up against the clock. But in Romans chapter 3, I just want you to go ahead and read, starting with verse 9. What then are we better than they?

No, and no wise. For we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles that they are all under sin. As it is written, there is none righteous, no, not one. There is none that is understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way. They are together become unprofitable.

There is none that doeth good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulcher, and with their tongues they have used deceit. The poison of asps is under their lips. Their mouth is full of cursing and bitterness.

Their feet are swift to shed blood. Destruction and misery are in their ways, and the way of peace they have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes. Now we know that what things soever the law saith is saith to them who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped and all the world may become guilty before God.

Therefore, by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified his sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Okay, Joe, we're going to have to pick it up there tomorrow and take a close look at who he's talking to and what he's saying, but we'll be back right after this. Oh, Obama wants to take away our guns.

Hitler, Germany, Stalin, Russia, Mao, China. All our freedoms they want to take away. Better pack a lunch, pal. So bring it on, let's get it done the American way. They paid the price in full. It was their shed blood was traded for our freedom. I'd rather be dead.

I'd rather be dead than read. We must live brave. We must live brave. And they never will. Of which I am one.

The public school system, the media, the university. We will never, never give in. It's not over until we win. All right, Joe, we've been playing that song several times in the last couple of weeks. Up until, well, we hadn't played that song in years. Do you remember that song?

Music is one of those things that if something starts you get a little bit in your brain that comes back better than almost anything to your memory. Well, that was when Obama was in office when he first got it off. It's always been about Obama and I think it still is about Obama. All right, it's because Obama, and we're going to get into that because he has a lot to do with his AI stuff, but we'll get into that. Meanwhile, I've got some announcements here in Ohio, Joe.

We are in a real battle, a real war, an outright war with the Antichrist Communist Party. From outside of Ohio, a lot of dark, dirty money, I mean really dirty money is coming in, and they're buying people, and these people are going out and actually bringing people in from outside our state of Ohio to go out and get signatures they're paying for and to lie to the people. And they want to amend our Constitution, which has already been amended over 127 times, and every time it weakens it. But this is a very, very, very sinister, very sinister, Joe. What they want to do is they want to pass this pro-death, this legislation here, it's the pro-abortion ballot initiative, and they're calling it the Women's Reproductive Act.

It's sinister. It's right from the pit of hell, and it's being pushed by people that belong in hell. And these people here, Joe, what this bill would do, for 50 years, myself and a number of people worked very, very hard trying to overturn Roe v. Wade.

50 years, and we fought with everything we had. As you know, on the streets in front of the bloody abortion, and we did, we saved a lot of babies, but only a small fraction of the ones they murdered. But anyhow, Joe, here, this would not only do away, it would neutralize all of the pro-life legislation we passed. But on top of that, Joe, it would take away all parents' rights.

It would remove all parental rights. Now, people don't know this, and these very, very, very corrupt news stations are out there, and they're lying to the people. I'm listening to these corruption, the very corrupt commercials they run, and they're just as corrupt as the people, again, that are pushing this. And so not only would it do that, where they can butcher, and we're going to be talking about the butchering of the children through this so-called transgender surgery. But it would also, Joe, make it to where, well, let me just put it this way. The very same people that are behind this, the very same people are the same people that are behind the child sex trafficking.

The child sex trafficking. It's a horrible, horrible thing, Joe. And you know what? When I go by and I see these people with vote no signs in the yard, they better hope they never run into me, okay?

Because I'm going to tell them just what God's word the Bible has to say about child molesters and pedophiles and those that murder little babies. They're right from the pit of hell, right from the pit of hell. And so, anyhow, we're fighting here in Ohio.

I mean, we're really fighting. We're fighting against four planned predators, the most wicked, evil, ungodly, creeping, crawling, prevailer of death. It's a cancer, such a cancer of death upon this world.

They're spending millions and millions of dollars in Ohio to get this ungodly, wicked thing on the ballot on August 8th. And then there's George Soros, dark money coming in, the death money. This is the death culture. Now, all of these people, the Bible says those that hate God love death, those that hate God love death.

And you know what? When I see these signs in the people's yard, one or two things, they either got no idea, they're totally confused of what this is all about, or they're wicked, evil people. And anyhow, so I've said all that to say this, Joe. People need to make sure that on August 8th, to make sure on August 8th, here in Ohio, you get to the polls and you vote. Well, it's better to vote early. You can vote early if you want. And vote yes. Vote yes. And tell everybody you know to vote yes. And Joe, if somebody was to say, well, I know what that's about, and I vote or no, I would say to that person, listen, from this point on, I never want to talk to you again.

I want nothing to do with you. You're not the type of person I even want to be around, because what you just told me is you believe in everything that God's word the Bible calls sin. And when these people say, well, this is a political, no, it's not political, this is a sin issue. It is a sin issue. Yeah.

Exactly. And so, anyhow, so this coming Thursday, this coming Thursday, we're going to be at, from 6 to 730, at Chardon Christian Fellowship Church. That's Chardon Christian Fellowship Church, 401 South Hamden Street in Chardon, people in Northeast Ohio.

Now, my cousin Wayne Sanders is the pastor of that church out there, and so, again, they're an activist church, too. There's going to be three presenters. They're going to be preaching on the fall of Roe v. Wade.

Now what? Understanding the Ohio Pro-Death Initiative, and then the reality of abortion. Those three presenters are a longtime friend of mine who was on the board of Ohio Right to Life when we first got started back in 73. Linda J. Tice, who is the, who's just a wonderful lady, a real lady, and she's the leader and the program director of CARE, Character and Relation Education, and she's been a board member of the Ohio Right to Life, and again, she's been with us in this, and right now she's on the Ohio Pro-Life Action Committee, and former president, and we've been working together for 50 years, Joe. And then Liz Kent, Liz Kent is also on, she, too, is a real wonderful lady, and she is assistant secretary of communications for the Right to Life of, and then here, Right to Life Action Coalition. And then Mark Harrington, Mark is the founder and president of Created Equal, pro-life educational outreach organization based in Columbus. He travels across the country to universities, real active training, young pro-lifers, training young kids to be pro-lifers.

It's a wonderful thing what he does out there. So this is all going to take place, for you folks in Northeast Ohio, this coming Thursday night, and that's going to be from 6 to 730, and that's the Chardon Christian Fellowship at 401 Southampton Street in Chardon, and it's going to be, it's free of charge, and it's going to be powerful. I'm going to be there.

So you're talking about a number of the leaders, the national leaders in the pro-life movement across this country for the past 50 years. And so, anyhow folks, come on out, we must win. Now there's going to be, we're going to have signs, yard signs available out there. Todd is going to be bringing a lot of yard signs. We've got to get the yard signs out, and that's this coming Thursday by Friday morning. We need to be getting those out at the last minute.

The opposition is spending tons of money. You need, listen, this is very, very important, very important, we have to win this, not just for us. They've got five other states lined up, and if we fail, they're going to go down like dominoes. If we stop them here, we can stop them here. Now, if we can stop them and we choose an issue one, make it to where they have to have 60 votes, 60% of the votes, and not 50 to amend. By the way, all but eight states have that. All but eight states, you have to have at least 60. Some make it to two-thirds, 66%.

Yeah, a lot do. And check this out, the ungodly, evil, wicked, totally corrupt Planned Parenthood, they and the ACLU, both in their charters, they have to have 60. The hypocrisy is definitely, there's not anything about those organizations, nothing, there's nothing at all that is not completely, totally corrupted and wicked. And so, anyhow, that's what's going on, so folks, listen, I'm going to read something here. This is written by our old buddy, Coach Dave Daubenmire, and here's what he writes. He says, I pray this commentary does not come across as self-serving. It is a, it's not my intention. I've been writing a weekly commentary since 2002.

I do not get paid. I appreciate the platform that News With Views has given me over the years. I enjoy reading the emails that readers send me.

It motivates me to do more. Then he quotes this quote, we will never be successful in the culture war because the left gives money to causes while Christians give money to churches. Now, this is interesting that he writes this. That profound statement was uttered to me by my buddy, Mark Harrington.

Mark will be Thursday night there with us, a Thursday night. Twenty years ago, Mark is the founder of Create Equal, a pro-baby organization that trains young men and women how to wage war for the life of the pre-born. It was in 2003 I had just launched Past Assault Ministries after being run out of public education by the God-hating ACLU and demonic supporters for mixing religion with coaching. Maybe someday I will have the time to tell you the story of how God used the ACLU to dynamite me out of the coaching high school football into the role of catching the church, of coaching the church and how to be the salt of the earth. It must be the largest mistake the ACLU has ever made.

Am I going full speed into the culture war which caused them headaches ever since? Today I coach Christians on how to fight. My initial reaction to the attacks of my free exercise of my faith was to launch an information blitz screen through the local churches. Surely, if they understood what was going on in America in regards to anti-Christian court rulings, the pastors would get involved and help push back against these emissaries of hell. It was my great disappointment to learn that most pastors did not want to get involved as prayer was stripped from the football field.

The issue was political and they were not permitted to politicize the pulpit. They were cowards. They were cowards.

And that's why. And they were feminized cowards. I was naive in the time and thought that they would be eager to help fight the secularist and were trampling the salt under the foot of man. It was then that I decided to launch my own battle for my God given right to freely exercise my faith. And I have been faithfully fighting for the battle for 20 years.

Just this week, a friend of mine forwarded to me the financials from the local church that had recently, well, he's got this local church here and it shows how much money they make and how little they really give to good causes. So here, I just wanted to say, you know, now, at this time, when that happened, when Coach got, when the ACLU went after him and he called me, right away he called me. And these pastors that he thought was going to come to his aid, they tuck, tail, and run because, first of all, the vast majority of them aren't saved.

And the vast majority of these. See, when Coach was a winning football coach, when he was a winning football coach, he was popular. And they would have him come and speak to the youth, the young youth at their church. But now, okay, the ACLU.

Now remember, these guys fear God, but really, their actions show they feared man. Coach came and asked me, he said they need, that these prissy preachers are telling me that I need a mantle, I need someone who would be my spiritual advisor that I should listen to. And he asked me, would you do that? And I said, yeah, I would do that. And so he told me and asked me if I would speak up. And I said I would be more than happy to speak up. And I challenged any of those prissy preachers, any of them, or all of them, to sit down and debate me over what God's Word the Bible teaches. And couldn't find one.

You couldn't find one. You see, that was the problem, Joe, the vast majority of them, people say, why won't the pastors do something? Folks, the vast majority of them are not saved.

You have to understand. The Bible says the righteous are bold as lions. These guys that would not help the coach, they were symbolism over substance. They weren't for real. And that's why God was kicked out of the public schools, because there was only a handful of pastors who went really to stand, a very small percentage. God kept a small remnant. And then when Roe v. Wade passed, they should have stormed. I mean, there should have been such a storm of pastors in Washington, D.C., placing that corrupt court that was only supreme in its rebellion against God.

And its sin. The pastors failed God again. They failed God again. And then when they passed this same-sex marriage again, just a handful of us, a very few of us, stood and ran to the battle. And, you know, I can't tell you how many times I've gone to Washington, D.C., to go up there and boldly tell those people what they needed to hear.

But anyhow, where are they today? And, Joe, if it fails in Ohio, if we don't get this, if issue one doesn't pass, if we don't vote yes on issue one, if people don't vote yes on issue one, you can put the blame on the church right in the pulpit. And listen to me.

Again, I'm going to say this again. You people out there, if you're in a church and that pastor does not get in a pulpit and encourage you to get out there and vote yes on issue one, because this is not a political thing. This is a sin issue.

And if he doesn't, then I encourage you to walk out that door and leave that and knock the dust off your feet. You listen to me. We don't have any time. It's a shame.

It's a real dishonor to God Almighty when the pastors in the congregation don't have the courage to stand up and fight like Christian soldiers. What do you say, Joe? I remember one of the things the Founding Fathers talked about. They questioned, was there any law that's passed that doesn't name one thing right and something else wrong?

For the most part, you know, this is right, this is acceptable, this is wrong. And, in a sense, all laws legislate morality, one way or the other. The question is, whose morality are you going to legislate? Are you going to legislate God's morality? Or are you going to, through your laws, legislate man's laws, man's morality?

And people forget this. They keep saying, well, religion is, you know, church and religion, it's different, church and state are separated. But it all comes down to, are we going to follow God's morality or are we going to follow man's, which is what?

Sinful and guided by the devil. We've got two religions, really, in America. We've got Christianity that started as the only true religion.

All others are false. And the second is a man-made religion called humanism. And that's, you know, are we going to have legislation and laws that deify God?

Or are we going to have guidelines that deify man? So really, most things come down to a spiritual battle when you look at it, when you really get into it. It's kind of like you were saying earlier with the issues out there. The devil is always in the details. They hide the real important things deep down, make it hard to understand, hard to find. But on everything else, they kind of cloud it.

They don't want you to get down and really look at the details, what is really going on. Issue one is a religious and moral issue. It is a God thing and not just another law. Well, you know, I know sometimes people say, gee, you seem to be passionate against... Look, I'll tell you what, I hate to see our Lord disrespected. I hate to see our God dishonored. And that's what happens with a lack of courage. Lack of courage. I don't know how these princely preachers can ever expect to ever hear those words, well done, my good and faithful servant, when they don't have the courage to stand up and be bold.

And to make statements like that, I just recently heard one of the country club preachers at one of the large country club churches tell people that he doesn't recommend that they get involved out there in politics. Well, you know, if you take a look, Joe, from Genesis to Revelation, every prophet, every pastor, every priest, and none ensued this, none ensued this more than the Lord Jesus himself. Their faith and their politics were one of the same. They were completely inseparable.

They were the same. That's the way it's supposed to be. And these people that tell me they can separate their faith from their politics, they're phony as the day is long. And so, there you go.

What do you think? Well, faith undergirds, you know, it's called, we call it worldview, if you want to get technical, it's called worldview. There's a Christian worldview that sees things through the eyes of God, through his statutes and judgments and commandments. And then you have other worldviews that are basically things that man has come up with and created. You've got communism, socialism, you've got all these other things out there. They're all isms.

Think about it. All of those other words, humanism, moral relativism, they're all isms. And then you have Christianity following what? The Christ, the Messiah, the Savior of the world, God's only begotten Son, the Word of God, the living Word of God, versus all these isms of the world that are man-made.

To me, it's such a clear choice, but the world never puts things simply so that somebody can understand it. They always make it more complicated, like Soren Kierkegaard wanted to be famous. He wanted to be known for great thinking, wanted to be a great philosopher, but he couldn't think of a thing that he could do to make the world better. So he came up with this thing called existentialism, and he decided he could become famous by making the world more complicated. And existentialism made the world more complicated. It was the basis of many college and universities' philosophy courses. And basically it was, to me, a bunch of convoluted reasoning that went in circles and never came back to the same place exactly.

It was always a little off. But because I couldn't make the world better, I'll make the world more complicated, and he creates another ism. And Satan's been working like that through idiots ever since he was kicked out of heaven, right?

Yeah, absolutely. And nothing's changed since that day. They use words as a weapon of this new warfare. They change words, change meanings, come up with these weird definitions for things, but underneath it all, it's either God or things that man dreamed up, guided by Satan, for man's own destruction. It's one of two things.

It always boils down to that. All right, hold one second. Derek, how much time do we have? Derek, okay, did you say Pastor Howe's on the phone?

Bring him up. Okay, this is me, Pastor Howe. I just wanted to say one statement. William Penn, who founded the state of Pennsylvania, he once said, If we will not be governed by God, then we will be ruled by tyrants. And boy, he hit it right on the head, what we're experiencing today.

We don't want to be ruled by God, so we're being ruled by tyrants. That's all I want to say. Amen.

Well, very true. The Bible takes it very clear it doesn't stutter. It's clear from Genesis to Revelation. We are to resist tyranny unto blood or unto death, and we are to storm the gates of hell.

So the Bible tells us that we are the sons and daughters of God, and that we are co-heirs for the Lord Jesus, and that we're not second-class citizens like the world's trying to tell us. And this is why I'm saying, when they ask me why don't the pastors have courage, it's because they're not saved. The Bible says that the righteous are as bold as lions. The righteous are as bold as lions. And so, Joe, if people are in a church and the pastor's not bold, if he's afraid to stand out there and tell you to stand up and do the three missions God has sent us to do, if he's afraid to lead, then you need to get out of that place. You need to find a place where there's a bold pastor who's bold like those of old.

Right? Exactly. Or I've seen other churches where the people didn't let a pastor preach, and the pastors have tried to find other churches because they wouldn't be allowed to preach the way they should.

It's simple, though. If you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, you have the Spirit to guide and direct you, and if you're truly saved as a pastor, you're going to see this evil in the world and understand the devil is using politics. I use the analogy of a football team. The enemies out there have their team, and if you decide, well, Christian, we're not going to play this rough-and-tumble, dirty game with them, we'll keep our team off the field, you can't win a battle unless you're out fighting on the field. Right? You've got to run to the battle.

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