Live From Boot Camp Fall 2021

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This is the Truth Network. The heart of every man craves a great adventure, but life doesn't usually feel that way. Jesus speaks of narrow gates and wide roads, but the masculine journey is filled with many twists and turns.

So how do we keep from losing heart while trying to find the good way when life feels more like a losing battle than something worth dying for? Grab your gear and come on a quest with your band of brothers who will serve as the guides in what we call the masculine journey. The masculine journey starts here now. Would you mind sharing a couple of things? Maybe you've gleaned, you don't have to, but I like putting people on the spot because Sam puts us on the spot all the time. Yeah, I mean, I think, I guess like the thing that was the most, the most, I guess, just like our last hour that we had had right before the last session, like I was thinking, oh yeah, I'm never, I'm not going to, I'm not going to get, I wasn't completely thinking I was going to get my name. And when I, when I got my name and it was, and I was thinking like, oh wow, like, and then, and then it was kind of like I was going between two names.

So I, so I got lover was like in lover of people. And I, and I was starting to realize and think about the fact that sometimes I'm not everybody's cup of tea. But that's just because sometimes, you know, I've always kind of thought that I care too much, but it's not bad to care too much.

It's not bad to love people and care about them and their stories. And sometimes, you know, it may seem like I'm being intrusive, but that's just, that's just who I am. And that was something that I, I started to realize. I started to, I started to feel that and I started kind of feeling a little bit of like listener, but then I realized that people who love people like me, they, you know, listening is a big, a big part for me as well. Very awesome. That's awesome to hear that. Rob, I think I'm just going to put my headset down.

I'm going to let you continue the show with Danny here because you're doing a great job. And that's one of the awesome things that we hear about these shows this weekend is how others come and they hear from God in a new way that they've never thought that they could hear. And they realize that God has actually been speaking into their lives for a very long time.

Again, we just haven't really been taught to listen, that being still, you know, even in our prayers, we pray to God, but we don't really talk with God. So it's awesome to hear that. So now we've got Josh, the brother-in-law, who's going to get shot with their software when he goes back home. Yes, sir. Look forward to it. Welcome, Josh. Were you happy to hear your brother-in-law's having a good time?

Could it be a long ride, bro? I'm just saying. Now you said that Rob was from Ohio. You are from? Kentucky. From Kentucky. Yep. That's right.

And the panhandle there. So how about yourself? What have you gotten this weekend? How has Father kind of touched your heart and spoken to you? Well, so I think a big thing for me was the agreements. There's just kind of things that you accept over time. And it's things that, you know, I've heard on the show, I've looked into, like in John Eldridge's books, but really that covenant of silence showed me a few agreements I'd made that I didn't realize I needed to break. One for me was having a hard time hearing from God. And I think it was because I'd convinced myself that I wasn't going to.

But just this last session, I mean, I realized he's been speaking the whole time. And that's just my doubt getting in the way. So yeah. How is your heart?

How is it light, heavy? That's a deep question there, didn't it? Yeah. We're going into a deep part in that lake out there. We just dove right on in there. It's full. I mean, yeah.

So full. So go a little deeper with that. Okay, let's flash a little bit.

Well, I think that I've, you know, it's hard to articulate, but I feel like if going into my heart was like going down a staircase, that's kind of something new, a new experience for me being here that, you know, I can sit in the quiet and kind of go into those depths and say, you know, Jesus, what do you want to show me? And that's been really cool. I hope that answers your question. That's good. That's good. Any examples of kind of some of the things he's shown you? Or if not, you know, that's okay.

Not to put everybody on the spot. Well, you know, hearing from God was a big thing for me. But, you know, also just old wounds and the way that they've come into play.

And like for me, the new name I received was Loyal, which was difficult because, you know, in my past, I would say that's probably where I've been attacked the most. So, yeah, that's cool. That works. And that's actually one of the things we talk about is how the enemy will attack the place where God has identified you as one of your giftings. So that's really awesome that you caught on to that. That's awesome.

So you guys get a free lunch for your farthest travel. That's good. So getting ready to move on here. We've got another gentleman here, Jason, while he's getting ready, you know.

Oh, sorry. This is David. See, this is what they do to us.

They switch them around. We gave you a new name. It's now Jason.

There you go. So, David, welcome. How about yourself? Like, how are we doing today? We're doing pretty good. Definitely better than I was the first day I walked in here. Better than I was the first day I walked in, for sure. You know, didn't know what to expect.

Got invited here about two weeks ago. You know, was kind of in a weird spot in my life, family-wise, with some issues going on with my child. And, you know, it kind of honestly, you know, like they say, God works in some serious ways. And so I walked into a church one Sunday and three weeks later, here I am at boot camp. So. So you were a draft pick. Is that what we're saying?

Yeah, probably like, maybe like number 47. So what are some things that you gleaned from the weekend? You know, I've just been really just asking God where, you know, where He wants me to go, looking for the answers to what I have going on in my life right now.

And, you know, yesterday I sat out in the woods and was asking it. And then, you know, today I sat on the back of my truck and Danny actually walked up on me. I was beating the crap out of a fishing reel on the back of my truck, trying to get it to close.

We call that field modification. That's what that is. So it didn't matter how hard I hit onto it. And when you walked up to me, you were kind of like, and I was like, you know, kind of mimicking because we couldn't talk and showing you what I was trying to do. And you walked away and I was sitting there beating onto it. And then, you know, God let me know that, you know, He's not beating it into me for the answers right now, that I just need to kind of sit back and be graceful with it. And so I sat back and was like, started smiling and was graceful with the fishing reel and it closed.

I didn't have to beat on it anymore. So that was, that was pretty cool experience. Awesome.

Awesome. A great lesson learned most definitely. And that's the way it works in our lives. Whenever we get into these situations, we think that we have to have the answer right now. And the reality is we don't get it until He gives it to us. And the process is part of the process. We learn it a lot easier, a lot better whenever we go through that, that long. Absolutely. You know, our lives are a lot like that fishing reel. You know, I've had one backlash on me more than once. And sometimes straightening and sorting all this out is kind of like undoing the backlash reel.

Yep. So if you were, if you had someone that, a friend, a brother, what have you, how would you recommend, what would you tell them about the boot camp? How would you present that to them if they were to come? You know, I would talk to them and I would let them know absolutely if they're having any doubt in their minds about it or feeling feelings of kind of pushing away from it that they really need to push into it. That, you know, as we've talked about, the enemy attacks that stuff. And I had a lot of attacks in between the time I was invited, even before it and getting all the way up to the day of. So if they're really, you know, the person I'm talking to, if they're really feeling any type of backlash as you stated, or any type of, you know, feelings that they shouldn't go, they should definitely dig into it and push into it and go regardless of the situation.

Cause they're going to get everything out of it that absolutely the enemy doesn't want them to have. And that's another part of that too, right? All of us get something different. Even those of us who are here with the ministry, we're being spoken to as much as, you know, you guys coming in. So it's a blessing to us to be a part of what you guys are getting and receiving, but it's a blessing to us as well.

Absolutely. So we'll continue on here down the road. Um, next we have Jason. Jason is from Atlanta.

Uh, this has been a, an interesting bootcamp. Well, sorry, not Atlanta, Georgia. Okay.

We won't say from George. He's not really from Atlanta, but I always, I always put Atlanta as Georgia. I'm not too fond of Atlanta that much. I mean, it's beautiful down there to go through at night and see all the lights, but, uh, I live in Northern Georgia.

So more of a mountain area in the woods. Give me that. And I'm, I'm at home. Well, now you're one of the rare campers that's actually camping at this particular bootcamp. Yeah. Enjoying that? Uh, I actually am. I am. Uh, the only thing I didn't enjoy this morning is I woke up with my arm, uh, dead asleep cause I was laying on top of it.

But other than that, I'm doing good. There's probably something spiritual there. Maybe. My idea roughing it is a hotel room with no cable vision. So y'all, both of you guys are sleeping outside in cold weather and I want to say I admire you, but I'm not going to lie.

I'm not going to pose. I'm just saying. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've always loved going camping in the winter.

Um, I've made trips where God's led me to go by myself, you know, places where most people wouldn't go, you know, a foot of snow or five miles deep in a national forest by myself and six or zero degree weather and roughing it for four days and just out there by myself, getting to know him better, getting to know myself better, you know, and. So Jason, I know you fairly well. You know, you're, you're, uh, you're here with me. Yeah.

Yeah. Um, so this is a little, yeah, this is a little different than, than you thought it would be. Tell us about kind of the ways God's kind of come after you, um, this weekend. Um, come after me, man. I feel like he's always, he's, uh, he's, he's always given me this, you know, he's, he tags you and he's like, now come after me. You know, he gives you that a little bit more of a hunger for him, you know, to turn and to get closer to him. He's always after us, but he's, he also wants us chasing him. And you know, that, that fire that he puts in us, you know, we have to keep it flamed. You know, we have to flame that fire because if we don't, it will go out.

It's easy to get put out. And so what is the fire he's been flaming in you this weekend? Well, to be honest, it's, it's been something that I've been, I've been lacking in the past. I've gotten a lot more fellowship with men that are like of like faith and seeing and seeing a lot more than just a cup, you know, me and Wayne or, or my uncle and things like that. It's been a really good thing for me to, to be around more people and, and just to see how God's working in their lives and be able to share and hear what they got and all that other stuff, you know. That's good. Well, welcome to North Carolina. Yeah, it's beautiful.

Part of my heart is in Georgia because my granddaughter lives in sugar heal, as she says. Really? Yeah.

Sugar heal. I think I've been there once or twice. Yeah. And you know, some of these talks that we've gotten into, you know, you're kind of already, just because I know you, you're already used to hearing him in the ways that some of these guys are just learning. Like Rob, who came up a minute ago, just realizing that God speaks to us in this way.

Oh yeah. You've been doing this for a while. You've been doing the listening and whatnot. What would you say kind of briefly to those who are listening in, in learning that, learning the voice of God? Well, the first time I ever heard God speak to me, I'll put it this way. I was, I was in a place where I was really hungry to hear his voice because I'd never heard it. And I didn't realize that I could. And so I was doing everything I could to get quiet.

I spent hours and hours, hours alone just to hear it. And if I, you know, we opened that Bible and we can see his words in there and he's speaking in that, but I'm, we're talking about literally hearing the voice of God. And the first time I heard his voice, it kind of took me back, you know, cause it was a kind of a, a big deal for me, you know, but, um, it's not that big a deal. And that's, that's what I had to get over.

It's like, it's not that big a deal. You know why? Cause he's always speaking. He always is talking to us. We're his children.

We should be able to hear his voice at any given moment. Sometimes it is harder, you know, sometimes we're not perfect, but if we take the time to get quiet enough and, and again, it comes to this, know that you, that he's speaking to you. Now, whenever you say it's not a big deal, what I hear there is we make it harder than it has to be. We make it harder than what it is.

Yeah. We, we take, right. There's a foundation that Christ laid for us and he's, he's made away. You know, he said, if you've seen me, you've seen the father and you know, if you're hearing him, you're hearing the father. And so we take, and we put a lot of stuff on top of that foundation and we start piling up all this stuff that we think it is, or what he's, we think he's saying to us. And what I found is we, whatever we come up with first, the on top of what he's given and what you've heard, you can usually take that and crumble it up and just throw it away. And I say, okay, now God, what do you mean? Cause I've already got out what I think you mean, what do you re what are you really saying to me? And it's, it's that, you know, he'll speak to you and he wants and, uh, he doesn't want us to take and run with that. He doesn't want us running with that. He wants us to take that in and to and to meditate on it, asking him to reveal more because there's, you know, like onions, they got layers, you know, we, he's got layers to what he means. God can say one thing and it can mean so much, not just in that one, one specific word. Right. Yeah. I like what you said there.

Whenever we hear from him to take and meditate on it. Um, you know, that that's awesome. Um, um, I'll have to tell you, I admire your heart when it comes to listening to God. I really do. You are, you're a special guy.

I wish I could say it's been easy. Like, you know, we, in the, in one of the talks today, you know, Jim was talking about how, you know, whenever you step out and listen to God, you know, a lot of people around you, they'll, they'll question you. And sometimes he asks you to do some, some, some different things. Um, and we, uh, we've got someone here with us who's, who's definitely hearing the voice of God. Um, has his own ministry as well.

Um, uh, some of you may know him from a wrestling back in the day, uh, Nikita, Nikita Koloff. Welcome. Great to be here in the masculine journey. It is awesome to have you with us. Uh, um, so yeah, we'll just kind of let you run with this cause you're used to doing this kind of well, I tell you what, what I'm enjoying is like all the guys, I mean, Ohio, Kentucky, South Carolina, Georgia, Russia.

I mean, guys coming from all over. So you get the award for the free lunch. I think I came the furthest, right? I came all the way from Russia via Minnesota, Minnesota, but, um, no, it's, it's been a, it, for me because I do, I am busy like many of us. And, uh, you know, I was just thinking three words that popped in my head was rest, reflection and learning.

And so this has been a rewarding for me, uh, regarding those three words, just the ability. Cause I'm usually out every weekend, whether if it's not autograph signings, it's, it's conferences, it's, you know, host my own camp, uh, with Lex Luger. I mean, I'm always doing something. Um, my dad used to say, son, you don't let any grass grow under your feet. And I'm like, that's exactly right, dad.

You know, there's no time like the present. Yeah. And, uh, so one real highlight for me, just, just real quick for you guys, when you get some other guys, you want to interview here in, in yesterday and some quiet time. Um, you know, I was just, I was just, I was laid out in the sun, you know, it was a beautiful Carolina blue sky sun was shining a little on the chilly side. So I just thought I'll lay out and just soak in the sun. And a couple of things came from that. I was soaking in the S U N and I was soaking in the S O N and, uh, there was warmth that came from that.

There was peace. And there was just beauty in that as I was taken in my surroundings. And then the wind would kick up.

It was kind of interesting. We had a bonfire the night before, the night before and it was calm, but then the wind kicked up, right? Well, the wind would kick up and the trees were blown above me, but it was like, just peaceful and still where I could see it and hear it, but I, but it was still where I was laid out. So it wasn't, it wasn't blowing over me. So it was pretty, pretty interesting. And then there was a bird flying.

Um, and the Lord reminded me at a revival is that in January, 2020 at my home church, the refuge that, that this would be a decade that I wouldn't, um, roar, but I would soar. And so the Lord reminded me of that yesterday. And then one last thing. It was a woodpecker, man. He kept, you know, he kept pecking on that tree. He'd stop and then he pecked, but the Lord Lord, uh, it's kind of a mandate for me work, but make sure that the work and what you do is a labor for the Lord. It's a labor for me.

And so I'm laboring in love for the Lord. And so that's just a quick takeaway from my, one of my quiet times yesterday. And, um, yeah, I liked the analogy you can get from that with the peace there while you're laying down, right? Whenever you're in him, when you're resting in him, things are peaceful. No matter how much the winds are blowing around you, no matter how, how the storms, right.

If Jesus slept in the storm, you know, we, we need to learn how to sleep when he's sleeping. And one of the quick, uh, really illustration of that wind blowing around. It's cause many have compared it to the Holy spirit, right? You know, you, you, you can see the wind, the w the effect it has on the trees and, and even, and even feel it. And I, I was, I wasn't feeling, but I was seeing it and that's kind of a reflection of the Holy spirit. You know, if, if you're paying attention, you can see what the Holy spirits are doing.

He may not always feel it, but you can experience it. So yeah, just an honor to be here. A privilege to be here. We thank you for being here.

Thank you for sharing with us and sharing your take on it. Danny, what do you think? Do we have time for another?

We got, I think we got a time for a few more here. We got another gentleman up, uh, Orlando, not to be confused with Mickey. I know they sound alike, but yeah, they kind of called me Mickey mouse, man, Mickey mouse, man. Orlando, you've got a United States Navy hat on there. I've seen you wearing all weekend.

What's that about? Were you in the Navy? Yes, sir. I was very good. Thank you for your service, especially coming up, you know, right after veterans day here. It was fun. It was fun being in the Navy.

Yes, it was very good. So did, were you on a ship? Yeah, I was on an aircraft carrier. Okay.

So you got to cross over the equator for the first time and had to go through, you know, yes, I had to go through one day. Yeah. Um, I have a lot of friends who were in the Navy, you know, they've got to tell me those stories. Um, and you know, our walk with God and this journey that we're all, you know, one of the things we talk about is the battle to be fought and the battle to be won and all these things that God is doing with us, bringing us up as sons, you know, how's he been speaking to you about that battle? Uh, he's really going after my heart and he's been teaching me that I'm a gladiator. I have to fight for him.

He's desperately seeking my heart. Right. That's awesome. And I understand that man. What is your take on being the gladiator? Why is it, why is he telling you you're the gladiator?

What do you, what do you, I have to defend the gospel. Right. Orlando, you have kind of a unique journey getting here.

Yeah. Tell us how you got here. Well, uh, uh, I always listen to Robby. I like his laugh. And, uh, um, he had me on, um, you know, on, uh, Kingdom Pursuit. He was asking, always asking questions and stuff and, and I answered the right questions, I guess. So he got, I got a free ride here. You got a free ride. You were the winner. Yes, sir. I was. Awesome.

What do you think about that Wayne? Well, you know, the, the gladiator piece, you know, we, we watch actually several clips from the gladiator. One of the things for those who are first time listeners, you know, we use clips to speak to us and, and show us how God can talk to us in the many variables and different ways in life. Um, you know, gladiator being one of those, you know, you, you speak about being a defender of the gospel, but I, I see that as much deeper. I see it as also being a defender of the weak and, and taking that gospel into places where others might not, you know, I've listened to you speak a lot, even regarding your dreams and some of the things he's shown you there.

You definitely got a heart. And that's, that's another great piece about this is we get to meet these amazing men who have these huge hearts for God. They, they, they love God.

They love others. Um, we've got, uh, about a minute, I guess. Um, do we have time for one more? I think, uh, what about you? What have you gotten this week while we're switching over here? What, what's kind of touched on your heart, Danny? Well, the, the new name, which was the, the talk I had the privilege of doing was God has really come after my heart. So on that, and we have, Stephen with us. Well, Stephen, sorry, cutting it a little short here, but thanks for, uh, coming on board with us. Thanks to all of you who've listened in, uh, the masculine journey. We've, uh, really had an amazing time here this weekend. We want to invite you all to listen to the podcast. This is the truth network.