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hold to the continuation of all of the charismatic gifts, but not in the apostolic sense where someone has apostolic authority to be able to heal, I don't believe in that. But we're going to be having a discussion on Thursday night, and I'll put up the information for that if you are interested. And also, let's see, so Thursday I won't be teaching Bible study, just letting you know, because that's when I have to do the charismatic gift issue discussion. Wednesday I do plan to be on Clubhouse, teaching and answering questions, and on Friday of course I've got the debate. And we'll put all that on the calendar.

We haven't updated the calendar in a while, but I need to do that. All right folks, give me a call, 877-207-2276. I want to hear from you.

Please give me a call. All right, now, something else that, there are a lot of topics worth discussing. One of them is Roman Catholicism, and how bad it ultimately really is, and how it's not Christian, along with the Eastern Orthodox. And what I've noticed lately about the Eastern Orthodox people is they're becoming more aggressive and more evangelical.

Yesterday I had a discussion online with a gentleman, and it's a polite discussion, who is moving towards the Eastern Orthodox religion and wants to be baptized. Our discussion was really telling because he kept appealing to church fathers and that they have the right to interpret scripture. And he would not appeal, I think, to scripture. And it was rather obvious to me that he was being deceived because the scripture was not his authority, but the church fathers were, and what the Eastern Orthodox Church said was. Let me tell you, anybody who would look to the church fathers as the status of what should and shouldn't be biblically is taking their eyes off of Christ, off of God, and they are putting them on something other than him. And they should stop that, they should not do that.

When they do it, they end up in error, and it's unfortunate. And I had this really interesting conversation with him, and talking to him about that, and it was sad because all he kept doing was appealing to, well, how do you know the church fathers, this and that, how do you know, what you say, Matt, is true, how do you know that they didn't get it right, how do you know, and it was all about church fathers, and then sacred tradition. It was about the sacred tradition, what the tradition is, and the tradition is in their church.

I get tired of that kind of stuff because it takes their eyes off of Jesus. All right, let's get on the phones with Ryan from Ohio. Hey, Ryan, welcome.

You are on the air. How are you, Matt? Oh, I'm doing fine, just hanging in there.

What do you got, man, what's up? So my question doesn't really pertain to what your topic is tonight about government and whatnot, but it was pertaining to a discussion my wife and I were having, and it was about how Christ could heal the, or I'm sorry, forgive the paralytic sins when he hadn't yet died or atoned for the sins, for the paralytic. I'm just looking for a little more insight. I know he died for all, not all, but I mean all that, not all, but I'm sorry, I misspoke. For all that were forgiven, past, present, and future, like he could do that because he's God. But I'm just curious, you get a little insight. Sure, well, we'll be back in a break.

Let's tackle it, and we'll talk about how people could be forgiven before the atonement occurs. All right. Hey, folks, we have four open lines. If you want to give me a call, 872-0722-76. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Everybody, welcome back to the show. I'm Matt Slick.

I'm your host, Matt Slick. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, all you've got to do is dial 8772072276. If you've got a question about God, the Trinity, Bible, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, Unity of Ohio, Islam, Roman, let's see, Evolution, UFOs, the Occult, my daughter and I were talking about that occult stuff today.

We can talk about that, too. Let's get back on the air with Ryan from Ohio. Ryan, okay. So, are you still there? Yes, sir.

All right. So, from the foundation of the world, God ordained through the eternal covenant that Jesus or the pre-incarnate Christ would be the one who would come to redeem the world or redeem his people. So, this was proclaimed and guaranteed in that inter-Trinitarian communion. Now, the Father gave to the Son the elect, and this is out of Ephesians 1.4. He chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless. So, the Father chose people to give to the Son, but they were chosen in the Son. But the Son, Jesus, could not, well, let's say, the Son was guaranteed by his commitment to pre-incarnate Christ to be the atoning sacrifice by which the elect, the chosen ones from the Father, would be redeemed. This is set in stone from forever ago in the heart and mind of God.

It cannot not happen. So, the elect are the ones who would be justified by faith, justified before God through the work of Christ. And our faith that God grants to us, Philippians 1.29, the faith that's in Christ that he works in us, John 6.29. So, that faith is in God. Now, we know from Genesis 15.6, which Paul references in Romans 4.3, that Abraham believed God and it was credited to him or reckoned to him as righteousness.

Righteousness deals with the law, but Abraham, like everybody else, was a sinner because all people died in Adam, Romans, 1 Corinthians 15.22. So, what we have here is the inter-Trinitarian communion where the atonement would occur at a certain time in history. The elect are before the atonement, at the time of the atonement, and after the atonement. And all of the elect are given by the Father to the Son and the Son came to redeem them. This is why Jesus says in John 6.37, all that the Father gives me will come to me.

So, they're the given ones. That group of the all is the ones given by the Father. So, with all that having been said, there's also something called the now and the not yet. The now and the not yet is a theological perspective that designates God's redemptive work, among other things, in a time reference that is now but not yet. So, when Christ died on the cross 2,000 years ago for him, it was the now. But we in our sins were not yet. Yet our not yet sins were counted to Jesus and given to him.

The only way this could happen, that I'm aware of, is that God who has decreed all things would then impute all of mankind's sins, all the elect's sins, to Christ on the cross. Therefore, before and after the crucifixion, anyone who would be putting their trust in God before, and it's all the information they had, and were looking to him and trusting in him, would there be justified. But they were also looking forward to the cross, and then after the crucifixion, we look back to the cross, and we're justified by what Christ did. So the people before were justified by what they believed God would do and could do for them, where we look back and look at the reality of what God did for us on the person on the cross. So, therefore, both could be saved and justified by faith, even though the crucifixion hadn't yet happened. Okay? I appreciate it, that is a very good explanation, thank you. Well, good.

So which position did you and your wife come up with, or how'd that go? Well, I think it came up to, well, for us, it was God is in the forgiving business, and he can choose when he wants to forgive, whether it be with Abraham counting it as righteousness, or even two minutes, hypothetically, if he were to be crucified. He has the right to do it whenever he wants. And that's kind of where we let it go, but I was like, we need to look at some more resources here and kind of get a little bit better answer.

Well, let me add a little bit of salt and pepper on this, okay? If you were to go to Colossians 2, 13 and 14, there's very significant information there. It says, when you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, he made you alive together with him, having forgiven us all our transgressions. Notice what he says, having forgiven us all our transgressions, that's sin, transgression is sin. Having canceled out the certificate of debt, consisting of the creasa, which was hostile to us, he took it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. So the theological point I want to make here is that what Jesus did on the cross was cancel our sin debt. It's not canceled when you believe. It's not canceled when you get baptized. It's canceled by Jesus at the cross because that's what it says.

He canceled out the certificate of debt, the carographon, the handwritten IOU of legal indebtedness. When we sin, we break the law of God. We have a debt incurred, as Jesus says in Matthew 6, 12, and Luke 11, 4, our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, he says forgive us our debts and forgive us our sins. So he equates sin with legal debt.

So theologically, Jesus canceled the sin debt at the cross. But justification occurs when we believe. Justification is the imputation of righteousness to us.

It's a legal thing to impute. That's why Romans 4, 1-5 talks about justification. And it says to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness. So the crediting of righteousness is justification.

It is not the removal of your sin when you believe. Now this is another example of the now and the not yet because Jesus canceled the sin debt at the cross. Well, for Abraham, it was his now but not yet for the cross and the atoning work. And for Jesus, our not yet was his now. He was on the cross bearing our sins who we're not even yet existing. So the now and the not yet works before and after the cross and it deals with the issue of God's timelessness and how he works and how he decrees and how he doesn't make mistakes and how he doesn't waste his blood and how his atonement is decreed from the foundation of the world in the inter-Trinitarian covenantal communion.

And the elect given by the son, by the father to the son, are redeemed and he, Jesus, canceled out their sin debt and all they have to do is believe, is trust in him whether before or after the atonement and they are therefore justified. Okay? I appreciate that. That's very, very good. Thank you very much. Well, you're welcome very much.

Hope that was helpful. All right. It was.

It was. You have a good evening and I appreciate it. All right, Brian. God bless, Ryan. All right.

You too. Well, we have five open lines. If you want to give me a call, 8772072276. For those of you who are new to what I just said, I'm going to go over this again because it's worth repeating. We've got nobody waiting right now.

And oh, there's a break right there. So at the bottom of the hour, why don't you give me a call, 8772072276. We'll be right back. And I'll talk more about the nature and extent of the atonement as a theological perspective laid out in scripture. I'll quote it to you. All right, be right back after these messages. All right. Welcome back to the show, everybody.

You know I was going to talk about the nature and extent of the atonement. We've got some callers coming in. I want to get to them first. Let's get to John from Ohio. John, welcome. You're on the air.

Hello, Matt. The Lord's Prayer lead us not into temptation. Why would the Lord lead us into temptation? I don't understand that. I pray that every morning, but lead us not into temptation.

God don't lead us into temptation. And then one of the other questions is? Well, let's do one at a time. Let's do one at a time. Okay? Let's get that one first.

All right. So in other words, guide us away from that which is tempting is what it's asking. It's just a phrase.

It's just a way of talking. Now, there's two perspectives that you can look at that can mean. God does allow us to be tempted because nothing occurs to us without his permission. So he can allow us to be tempted in order to test us and to purify us. And so if it's in the will of God for that to occur, then praise God. But on the other hand, what we can do is say, Lord, lead me not into it. It's just a poetic way of saying, deliver me from the fowler's snare as Proverbs talks about, as being trapped. And so just deliver us from that, okay?

We don't want to have that. He says, and give us this day our daily bread. And a lot of this is just kind of a poetic way of speaking. But it's just basically saying, God, just don't let it be tempted, okay?

Okay, that helps out a lot. And then is it like would it be a regular funeral or burn your body? Is it a sin to burn the body or what? No, it's not. You can cremate.

That's fine. You know, there are people who have died in house fires, boat fires, forest fires, and their bodies are essentially cremated. If being cremated was a sin, then they would be sinful for dying in a fire.

It doesn't make any sense. Furthermore, people who have died in fires like the martyrs, the Protestant martyrs, for example, where the Catholics would burn them at a stake and they would essentially be cremated and that their bodies would become fuel for the fire, they will have their bodies resurrected because that's what's prophesied in 1 Corinthians 15, 35 through 45. So cremation is not sinful, it's just, you know, just getting cremated. So it's not a big deal.

God certainly has the capability of reassembling all your atoms to create your body recreated, okay? Okay then, one more is, forgive our debtors. Forgive our debts.

What does that mean? That debt isn't financial, is it? The word there, debt, in Matthew 6-12 is ophilemon, and it means legal debt. The parallel account of this verse is, or this thing of, you know, our Father who art in heaven, is found in Luke 11, starting at verse 2, and it's another version of the Lord's Prayer. And it says, give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our sins as we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us. So what Jesus is saying there is to forgive everyone who's indebted to us. He says forgive us our sins, which is the word hermartia in the Greek, and then forgive us those who are indebted to us.

That's ophilemon. Sin is breaking the law of God, so there's a legal aspect to sin as being a legal debt, because it's breaking the law of God, which is why Colossians 2-14 says that Jesus canceled out the certificate of debt. So Jesus equates sin with legal debt.

So when he's talking about this in Matthew 6-12, forgive us our debts, what he's talking about is metaphorically our sins against God, as we forgive those, as we forgive our debtors, or those who have sinned against us, and are in our debt in the sense of having broken God's law. Okay? Okay, it's okay to pray that then. Of course it is.

Right there. Now notice that Jesus didn't say pray these words, he said pray in this way. You know, our Father who's in heaven. You can say the words, that's fine, but the concept here is pray this way.

The Father who's in heaven, holy is your name. In other words, you're talking and you're talking about how great the Father is and how holy he is, and that you're praying for his kingdom to arrive here on earth, and his will to be done, and to give us provisions. That's to give us our daily bread, and to forgive us our sins as we forgive others, and to deliver us from temptation, because it says do not lead us to temptation, but deliver us from evil.

It's a contrast. And he says for years of the kingdom and power, and then he goes on, if you forgive others or transgressions, your Father in heaven will also forgive you. And so he's talking about this issue of forgiveness in that Lord's Prayer, and how we're to do that. So it's a way of praying, and yes, you can say the very words, as long as you're not repetitious. We don't want vain repetition, we just say something, like the Catholics do. Say the Our Father, Our Father in heaven, they just say it over and over and over, it's vain repetition. So he didn't say to do that, he said to pray this way. So the idea is the intention of the heart in our prayers, okay? And you can say those words, just mean them, that's all, okay? Thank you very much, God bless you.

You too, God bless. All right, Four Open Lines, if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276, let's get on the phone with Zach from Ohio, hey Zach, welcome, you're on the air. Good evening, Matt, you're very popular in Ohio this evening. I guess so, that's great, I'd love to get out there.

I don't know if I've ever even been to Ohio. But I'd love to get out there. No, you're not missing much. Well, you know, it's like saying, hey, I'm from Idaho, you're not missing much. So you know, it's all right, I'd love to be out there doing some teaching and preaching in some churches, it'd be great to visit Idaho.

All right, now, so what do you got, buddy? So my question is your take on a divorced man becoming either a pastor or an elder in the church. I don't have my Bible in front of me. But the man of one woman phraseology, I think it's 1 Timothy 3, and also somewhere in Titus.

So I wanted your biblical take on that and what your thoughts were. Divorce is biblical and allowed under certain circumstances. If the wife or the husband were to commit adultery, then the offended party is free to be able to divorce.

Not obligated, but free to. If the person wants to work on restoring the marriage, that's between him or her and the Lord and the spouse. If the person says, that's it, we're done, you broke the covenant, then he or she can get divorced at that point.

The other condition for divorce is abandonment. And 1 Corinthians 7 talks about this. And so if the unliving spouse were to abandon the believing spouse, that's also breaking the covenant. And so in those areas, from what I see, the Bible says that such a person is free. And so I would not penalize, in my opinion, I would not penalize, in this case, a man who is divorced if, in the Christian context, he divorced his wife because of her unrepentant adultery and or if she abandoned him. He's not responsible.

He did no wrong. And if he sought for reconciliation and she abandoned him, that he's free. And I would say he could be a pastor and an elder. Now there's the issue of, well, what happens if he unbiblically divorced his wife before he became a Christian?

And this gets a little bit more difficult to wade through. Because what if he just, he's the one who committed adultery and his wife divorced him for that. This is before he's a Christian. And then he becomes a Christian and he confesses all his sins. My personal policy is that such a man must be strictly examined. And he must absolutely understand that what he did was unbiblical and ungodly, but that it was taken care of in the cross and he's a new man, a new creation. And so, in my opinion, I would allow such a man to be a pastor or an elder because he did it in the throes of his unbelief, which has then been removed and cleansed. And he's a new creation and a Christ and he moves forward. So that's just my opinion.

I know other people disagree with me, but that's my opinion. Okay. Well, thank you for that. The second scenario was precisely what I was calling it.

I think the first scenario is much more coming to life. So thank you for walking through that, man. It's a difficult situation.

And I do have firsthand knowledge of, during seminary, at Westminster Theological Seminary in Escondido, California, where I graduated from, first-hand knowledge of a situation where a man divorced someone, but he wasn't walking with the Lord. And they said, that's okay. It's under the blood and it's past, and so there you go. All right? So there you go, brother.

Thank you very much, Matt. All right. God bless. All right. Okay. God bless. I know it's a bit controversial, but that's just my opinion.

And if you disagree, okay. But, hey, if you want to give me a call, five open lines, 877-207-2276, we'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Okay, everybody. Welcome back to the show. Last segment of the hour, if you want to give me a call. Okay, heads up, connection, seems to be having issues. We're still connected, but having distorted when I speak. So that's interesting.

I just saw that. Thanks a lot for letting me know, Keith. And I'm not sure what to tell you.

I thought I'd seen that before the break, how it disconnected and reconnected. But we're on, this way it is, all the people in the chat room can hear me okay. And if you can't hear me very well over the radio, why don't you give me a call anyway, 877-207-2276, the last four digits, spell C-A-R-M on your phone, all right.

So we have nobody waiting right now, maybe that's why we're having a bit of a problem with the callers and a slow day, which happens sometimes, no big deal. But hey, I was discussing the issue of the atoning sacrifice of Christ. Let me just tell you, let me just summarize everything. Look, Jesus did everything that was necessary. He did it all. We don't have to complete his saving work by getting baptized or by taking communion or confessing to a priest or not doing something bad or doing something good. Jesus did everything on the cross and we believe and trust in what he did there. That is what makes us right before God. We are not capable of offering anything to God.

We're not capable of doing any good. Even our hearts are not good enough, even in the best moments of our sincerity. God grants that we have faith in Christ, John, excuse me, Philippians 1 29 and John 6 29. And so what we do is trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.

That's what we do. And it's as simple as that. If there's any church, any preacher, any teacher that says to you that you have to believe in Jesus to be saved and do whatever it is, they're preaching a false gospel. The Roman Catholic church says you obtain salvation through faith, baptism and the observance of the commandments. That is a false gospel.

Eastern Orthodoxy says that you have to enjoy and participate in the energies of God, which help you do the good things according to the faith that you have so that at the end of your life, hopefully you'll be justified before God. That's also a false gospel. The Mormons teach you to say by grace through faith after all you can do, 2 Nephi 25 23. That's also a false gospel. Islam teaches that you have to do good works and perhaps the scale of good will outwear the way of the bad. And therefore, inshallah, if Allah wills, then he'll save you. That's a false gospel. The true gospel is found in Jesus by faith alone in him alone to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly.

His faith is credited as righteousness, Romans 4 and 5. Monique from Greensboro, North Carolina. Welcome. You're on the air. Thank you. Thank you.

My most important one, I had a couple of mine, but it's about witchcraft. So obviously that could be, you know, you spoke about, you haven't come out of the cult, praise God. Yes. It's just a thing I haven't done that. But, you know, I don't know. I've never been one of these people that think, filters, occurs, occurs there.

But my question would be, biblically, is there a biblical pattern for, quote, breaking that off, or is it that it can't really touch you if you're already in Christ? Well. Is someone were to curse you?

Like which person? Okay. Let's talk about this.

Because we want to make sure that we understand that, you know, when you say can't touch you, that's a broad thing to talk about. No, no. I'll say that you wouldn't be cursed. Like, okay, look, you're cursed. Not that it couldn't be the demonic forces to try to, you know, do this, this, or this. But like a curse written on you, I guess the better way to ask it is it could inscribe on you. And in that case, wouldn't God be greater anyway to break it?

Okay. So let's talk about the issue of cursing, okay. There are demonic forces out there. There are witches. There are people in false religions. And they can pray to their false gods to harm you. And so they will be using demonic forces, not even knowingly, in order to harm others. That would be a form of a curse.

There are, in a sense, there are punishments that are passed down from generation to generation. And this is spoken of by God himself in Exodus 20, the Ten Commandments. Okay. Now, so what do we do as Christians? Let's say we have family members or somebody who hates our guts, like that's me. People hate my guts. And I know that people are praying against me. And I know that Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses and Muslims are praying against me, Catholics are praying, Eastern Orthodox are praying against what I do to their false gods and false gospels and false whatever. And so I don't worry about it because I'm in Christ and Christ is in me.

And greater is he that's in me than he who's in the world. I pray for protection. I pray that God would anoint. I pray that God would guide and that through all circumstances, he would be glorified. And so the Lord is our savior. The Lord is our king. He is our guardian. Christians need to rely and rest on his lordship and his ability to take care of us.

Now, that doesn't mean, however, that there won't be people out there who are praying to their false gods and or desiring harm to you and hatred to you and are invoking their forces and what they think is good in order to injure you spiritually or physically or financially or whatever it might be or health wise. What you do, if you suspect this is happening, is you pray and you ask God to bind the evil one from yourself, your family members, etc., whoever it might be. You ask him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and you talk to the Lord. You never pray to demonic forces and say to the devil, I rebuke you.

You don't ever do that. That's praying to the devil. Pray to the Lord Jesus Christ, ask Jesus to minister, ask Jesus to send his angelic forces, whatever it is. And you pray and you trust in him and you choose to trust him by faith. And you have to understand that sometimes God allows certain things to reach us, to perfect us, to polish us, to rub off the rough corners. So you pray that God would protect you. But if you were to allow an assault of some sort to come, that he would give you the grace to be able to survive it, to do it through it well, and to praise his name through it.

Should he allow that? Which he very well may. I'm not trying to instill fear. I want you to understand that nothing occurs unless God permits it. And that if you suspect demonic forces, pray against them to the Lord Jesus Christ and ask him to deal with it and move forward from there. Okay.

And I'm glad you mentioned that second half, because that was actually part of the, what you can do at that point. In my early, I've been walking with the Lord for a long time. My thought was the Lord, you see what's going on, fix it, and that would all, you know, that would be it.

I would just assume it. But I do understand about praying. The other thing was if it is generational, but the person who it fell upon is faithful, is it the same, basically the same thing as you just said, when you, you know, someone has released some kind of jealousy or hatred, witchcraft against you, or are you just kind of paying for it? You pray for them and then you trust God. So I have a great confidence in my Lord. And when someone curses me, which I've had, okay, that's right. And I've had people say, I'm going to pray for your death. And I tell them, you better be careful what you ask for because I'm guarded by my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who's greater than your demonic wishes.

And you better be careful lest he turn it back upon you. And I've talked to people like this and I'm still here and people haven't been bothering me. And so, well, they come up every now and then, and I pray imprecations against them after a while. I pray for their deliverance, but also pray for their imprecation or that God would deal with them according to their sin. So I have the confidence in the Lord's sovereignty and greatness. I want people to get saved, but if they're not going to be saved and they're going to try and do harm to me, my family, this ministry, whatever it is, then I'm going to lift them up in prayer and ask God to deal with them. We have to have that confidence that this is part of our spiritual battle.

When people do the same thing against you from their demonic sources out of Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, Unity Baha'i, Islam, Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, whatever it might be, then you can have that right to pray to the Lord Jesus and to bind that in the name of Christ, Lord Jesus. I ask that you would bind this in your precious name, Jesus. I trust in you. I choose to trust in you. And this will help break what's going on.

If you, however, have manifestations in your house, then what I would ask is that you anoint the house and if you're married, you have your husband who's the federal head have him go through and anoint the house and you do this with him and you pray through the house. It's just me. That's what makes this battle all the harder is really just me, but that helps a bit. Yeah. Then you do it. You're a woman.

I've done it. You're a woman and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. Well, I think there's nothing in my house. Go for it.

I'm not talking about the house, but that's the whole thing about whether it's generational and all that. But that helps. I guess as much as I'm going to be helpful with it as far as the time frame, I guess nobody can say. Okay. All right. Well, glad you called. All right. Well, God bless.

Thanks a lot, Monique. Okay. All right. Let's get to Herb. No. Herb.

Herb. I get that every time I call you. I know.

I've been picked on about that all my life. Matt, I got a quick, two quick questions. Is there a website, an address on your website that I could mail you up to a nation? Yeah. You just go to the CARM.

That would be rare. That's appreciated, too. Thank you. Yes, sir.

We do definitely need it. But at the bottom of any page is the P.O. Box, P.O. Box 1353, Nampa, Idaho, 83653.

And also, I think, you know what I'm going to ask? Oh, and on the left-hand side it says contact. And so I'm looking to contact us.

I'm just seeing it because I don't check out my own website very often sometimes in certain areas. And yeah, it's there. That's for an email kind of a contact.

But we do have a mailing address. There it is. It's there. Yeah. It's all there. Okay, great.

Well, I know you're short for time, so I'll try to ask you a question in the briefer ways I know to ask. When they say a new heaven and a new earth, does this mean that this actual planet we're living on now will be non-existent from when the Lord destroys it? Or is God going to take this existing planet and reform it and get it back to the days of Adam and Eve? That's what he's going to do.

Clean everything up. That's what he's going to do. And it will be the same planet we're on now then. Yes. Just like in 1 Corinthians 15, 35-45, our bodies are going to be resurrected and let's just say fixed. And boy do we need fixing physically. Amen.

That's right. And so we'll have a big fixed day. And so God's going to give us a new glorified body. Just the way the earth will be in a sense glorified in the sense that it's going to be redeemed. It's going to be remade, but it's going to be the same earth.

Just the way our bodies are remade, but it's the same body. Same kind of a thing. Yeah. Do you think we'll be similar to how Jesus was when he rose from the dead and they saw him, but they could go through doors and everything?

You know what I'm saying? He was like a spirit. Or is that not true?

That's not true. He was not just a spirit. He was physically raised. I'm going to speak quickly because we're almost at, okay, we're out of time here. But he didn't go through walls. He just appeared and he was in his physical body and that's what we're going to probably be like.

Be able to move according to our will and desire just as he did. I'm looking forward to that. Okay. All right. All right. Well, Matt, thank you so much and God bless you and your family.

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Thank you for your support and calling. So God bless. All right.

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